[valentine]

The fun police need not comment, but having seen these rookies play in the pro’s, who are you convinced is going to be the biggest bust?

I’m pretty sure Jabari Parker will be nothing like 4 to 10 time all-star that most predicted. 

And if you reply with "it’s too early rah rah rah…", you’re a chump. 

Name your Bust!

[JordanC20Participant]

 I’ve never been high on Aaron Gordon…if I had to choose I’d pick him.

[JordanC20Participant]

 I’ve never been high on Aaron Gordon…if I had to choose I’d pick him.

[raymondlyfParticipant]

Just dont draft an undersize twenner using top 5 pick, cursed…

[raymondlyfParticipant]

Just dont draft an undersize twenner using top 5 pick, cursed…

[Mad MaxParticipant]

 Gordon has been playing pretty well in his career. Granted, he’s playing off the bench in a limited role, but as someone who was very raw and no real position, he’s managed to use his two best assets (effort and athletic abilty) to become an already quality player. Let’s see how he does when he get’s a bigger role, but he seems to be ahead of schedule. 

 

 

[Mad MaxParticipant]

 Gordon has been playing pretty well in his career. Granted, he’s playing off the bench in a limited role, but as someone who was very raw and no real position, he’s managed to use his two best assets (effort and athletic abilty) to become an already quality player. Let’s see how he does when he get’s a bigger role, but he seems to be ahead of schedule. 

 

 

[llperez]

 i have not seen much of the top rookies other then reading the box scores. I do believe julius randle is the truth though. As a laker fan, i truly would not trade him for any other rookie from this class. As for who i see as the biggest bust…Wiggins had stupid hype and looks average. Elfrid payton is a guy who rose up in the month prior to the draft that i dont think is all that but again, havent seen much of him live. I think exum will prove himself as a top 5 pick in a few years, i really like his game. ANd then there embiid who nobody can rank right now. He was my top prospect all year long prior to draft, so i do expect big things from him.

[llperez]

 i have not seen much of the top rookies other then reading the box scores. I do believe julius randle is the truth though. As a laker fan, i truly would not trade him for any other rookie from this class. As for who i see as the biggest bust…Wiggins had stupid hype and looks average. Elfrid payton is a guy who rose up in the month prior to the draft that i dont think is all that but again, havent seen much of him live. I think exum will prove himself as a top 5 pick in a few years, i really like his game. ANd then there embiid who nobody can rank right now. He was my top prospect all year long prior to draft, so i do expect big things from him.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Before the season I thought Gordon was the obvious choice but his motor and work ethic has proven that he’ll be a decent pro for a decade, which is more than I expect from Tyler Ennis or TJ warren. Take into account I’m a Suns fan and hated both those picks, along with Len the year before. 

 

On a brigher note I think Joe Harris will be steal of draft, I expect a Danny Green/Shane Battier type career. Solid glue guy that in the right situation could be a big contributor, never an all-star, but solid 10-12 year career.

 

 

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Before the season I thought Gordon was the obvious choice but his motor and work ethic has proven that he’ll be a decent pro for a decade, which is more than I expect from Tyler Ennis or TJ warren. Take into account I’m a Suns fan and hated both those picks, along with Len the year before. 

 

On a brigher note I think Joe Harris will be steal of draft, I expect a Danny Green/Shane Battier type career. Solid glue guy that in the right situation could be a big contributor, never an all-star, but solid 10-12 year career.

 

 

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Dude Jabari is stone cold ball player.. give him some time before you start labeling dudes bust.. not even a quarter into the season.

Jabari is like Kobe in the sense that he eats and sleeps basketball.. he would literally sleep in gyms..

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Dude Jabari is stone cold ball player.. give him some time before you start labeling dudes bust.. not even a quarter into the season.

Jabari is like Kobe in the sense that he eats and sleeps basketball.. he would literally sleep in gyms..

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 I don’t think jabari will be a "bust."  But a franchise player and perennial all star??????  Not even close.

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 I don’t think jabari will be a "bust."  But a franchise player and perennial all star??????  Not even close.

[young waveParticipant]

 Your bias is showing so easily here. I swear 90% of your post are negative things about Duke and Duke players. Go to class tar heel. 

[young waveParticipant]

 Your bias is showing so easily here. I swear 90% of your post are negative things about Duke and Duke players. Go to class tar heel. 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

Come on now. Read the original post.  And Tar Heels don’t have to go to class, they are just given grades!!!

[Magic JordanParticipant]

Come on now. Read the original post.  And Tar Heels don’t have to go to class, they are just given grades!!!

[JoeWolf1]

 Maybe Staus, just because I think Sacramento reached on him. He’s a shooter, and has some good potential IMO, but guys like Elfrid, Doug, and others I feel will have significantly more prolific careers, and I think that will draw more criticizm in him taken at #8. 

Probably not a bust in the true sense of the word, but a poor draft pick.

[JoeWolf1]

 Maybe Staus, just because I think Sacramento reached on him. He’s a shooter, and has some good potential IMO, but guys like Elfrid, Doug, and others I feel will have significantly more prolific careers, and I think that will draw more criticizm in him taken at #8. 

Probably not a bust in the true sense of the word, but a poor draft pick.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

And goes from #1 pick in your "2014 NBA Re-draft" to a "BUST!":

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/2014-nba-re-draft

Plus, you give no actual basketball reasons or context on to why you think Jabari Parker is not going to be a "4 to 10 time All-Star like most predicted" (By most, I am guessing you, as well, seeing that 10 days prior he was your #1 pick in a re-draft).

Dirk Nowitzki averaged 8.2 ppg and 3.4 rpg as a rookie, just so happened to also be a 12 time All-Star (#13 seems like it may be on its way). Steve Nash went for 3.3 ppg and 2.1 apg as a rookie, 8 time All-Star. Tracy McGrady averaged 9.3 ppg and 5.7 rpg in his 2nd season, 7 time All-Star. Jermaine O’Neal averaged 3.9 ppg and 3.1 rpg over his first 4 seasons, 6 time All-Star. Get where I am going with this?

So, it is indeed much too early to say and the fact that Jabari Parker is struggling under a new coach on a team that won all of 13 games last season should not be intensely surprising. Waffling on your first pick in your Re-draft 10 days after the fact is much more so. Plus, if you are going to throw out the "chump" tag, maybe have some actual reasons behind it rather than just leaving us to believe you are disappointed in his performance thus far. It is a very long season and things can change. LeBron James can go from being compared to a 38 year old Michael Jordan to leading the NBA in scoring up to this point.

As far as a bust, agree with JoeWolf1 on Stauskas. Felt he went too high, he is an excellent shooter, their were definitely better values on the board with much higher upside. Was not a big fan of Aaron Gordon going #4, still not, though he has provided the defense and energy that has been expected of him thus far. It was INCREDIBLY soon to leave Andrew Wiggins out of a top 5 re-draft, though you managed to do so anyway for a player drafted in 2011. You have every right to state your opinion and make these posts for fun, though if you do not provide reasons or context, people have every right to disagree with you. Meanwhile, enjoy your waffle 🙂

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

And goes from #1 pick in your "2014 NBA Re-draft" to a "BUST!":

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/2014-nba-re-draft

Plus, you give no actual basketball reasons or context on to why you think Jabari Parker is not going to be a "4 to 10 time All-Star like most predicted" (By most, I am guessing you, as well, seeing that 10 days prior he was your #1 pick in a re-draft).

Dirk Nowitzki averaged 8.2 ppg and 3.4 rpg as a rookie, just so happened to also be a 12 time All-Star (#13 seems like it may be on its way). Steve Nash went for 3.3 ppg and 2.1 apg as a rookie, 8 time All-Star. Tracy McGrady averaged 9.3 ppg and 5.7 rpg in his 2nd season, 7 time All-Star. Jermaine O’Neal averaged 3.9 ppg and 3.1 rpg over his first 4 seasons, 6 time All-Star. Get where I am going with this?

So, it is indeed much too early to say and the fact that Jabari Parker is struggling under a new coach on a team that won all of 13 games last season should not be intensely surprising. Waffling on your first pick in your Re-draft 10 days after the fact is much more so. Plus, if you are going to throw out the "chump" tag, maybe have some actual reasons behind it rather than just leaving us to believe you are disappointed in his performance thus far. It is a very long season and things can change. LeBron James can go from being compared to a 38 year old Michael Jordan to leading the NBA in scoring up to this point.

As far as a bust, agree with JoeWolf1 on Stauskas. Felt he went too high, he is an excellent shooter, their were definitely better values on the board with much higher upside. Was not a big fan of Aaron Gordon going #4, still not, though he has provided the defense and energy that has been expected of him thus far. It was INCREDIBLY soon to leave Andrew Wiggins out of a top 5 re-draft, though you managed to do so anyway for a player drafted in 2011. You have every right to state your opinion and make these posts for fun, though if you do not provide reasons or context, people have every right to disagree with you. Meanwhile, enjoy your waffle 🙂

[Mad MaxParticipant]

 Joell Embiid might be as bust, but not for ability reasons per say but because of health. Athletic, skilled 7 footer who missed siginifcant time in college with injuries and now missing out on his rookie year, sound familiar? Greg Oden. Not saying Emiid isn’t talented nor that he won’t be a productive player if he can stay on the floor, but big guys with injury issues this young is not something that usually works out. Not to mention he’s already a little frail for his frame and probably isn’t strong enough at the moment to bang with the big bodies of the likes of Cousins, Gasol, Howard, Jefferson, Horford that will really wear on him. Plus it doesn’t help he’s on the god-awful 76ers, with little talent to make him a player and still very raw, I might be worried Embiid will not make good on his talent.

[Mad MaxParticipant]

 Joell Embiid might be as bust, but not for ability reasons per say but because of health. Athletic, skilled 7 footer who missed siginifcant time in college with injuries and now missing out on his rookie year, sound familiar? Greg Oden. Not saying Emiid isn’t talented nor that he won’t be a productive player if he can stay on the floor, but big guys with injury issues this young is not something that usually works out. Not to mention he’s already a little frail for his frame and probably isn’t strong enough at the moment to bang with the big bodies of the likes of Cousins, Gasol, Howard, Jefferson, Horford that will really wear on him. Plus it doesn’t help he’s on the god-awful 76ers, with little talent to make him a player and still very raw, I might be worried Embiid will not make good on his talent.

[mcbaileyParticipant]

Saying people are a "chump" just because they think you’re talking out of your ass doesn’t help your case any. It’s too early to proclaim ANYONE from this draft is a bust.

[mcbaileyParticipant]

Saying people are a "chump" just because they think you’re talking out of your ass doesn’t help your case any. It’s too early to proclaim ANYONE from this draft is a bust.

[HOops1562Participant]

Bari and Wiggins were both overhyped …. they aren’t Lebron and Carmelo …. heard a lot of rumblings on here about Bari dropping 20 easy in the league nope ….. Bari is light years ahead of Wiggins on offense yet they average around the same with Wiggins being more efficient nope … Bari isn’t a mix of Carmelo/Pierce he’s more like a Glenn Robinson and Wiggins is more Paul George/Shawn Marion mix …. both have no place being named the next Lebron and Carmelo  

[HOops1562Participant]

Bari and Wiggins were both overhyped …. they aren’t Lebron and Carmelo …. heard a lot of rumblings on here about Bari dropping 20 easy in the league nope ….. Bari is light years ahead of Wiggins on offense yet they average around the same with Wiggins being more efficient nope … Bari isn’t a mix of Carmelo/Pierce he’s more like a Glenn Robinson and Wiggins is more Paul George/Shawn Marion mix …. both have no place being named the next Lebron and Carmelo  

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