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    sheltwon3
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     The second overall pick is showing why the Lakers picked him.  He, Clarkson, and Randle are showing they are the new big 3 and all had a game where they scored at least 20 points again Orlando in a win.  Also they beat GSW not to long and each one of those players had a good game and did most of the heavy lifting even with Kobe playing.

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  • #1047307
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     This is a good start for the Lakers future but they still have a long way to go and wins aren’t actually helping them right now because they NEED to keep this draft pick

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  • #1047172
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     This is a good start for the Lakers future but they still have a long way to go and wins aren’t actually helping them right now because they NEED to keep this draft pick

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  • #1047311
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     The lakers are bad but still building a core and team chemistry….the 76ers on the other hand are just bad.

     

    Advantage-Lakers

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    SeattleSuperChronics
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     The lakers are bad but still building a core and team chemistry….the 76ers on the other hand are just bad.

     

    Advantage-Lakers

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    • #1047335
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       At least the Lakers pieces fit. 6ers are need to follow the same motto. Different rookies at different positions. They will next year though I think.

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       At least the Lakers pieces fit. 6ers are need to follow the same motto. Different rookies at different positions. They will next year though I think.

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    • #1047343
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      didnt know this was a post about the sixers  

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      negguary
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      didnt know this was a post about the sixers  

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  • #1047368
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    akhan786
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     Would love to see Ingram on this team.

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    Clarkson

    Ingram

    Randle

    Free Agent Center (can someone with more knowledge of the Lakers front office tell me if Hassan Whiteside is a possible option)

     

    That would make a pretty fantastic young starting 5 that isn’t that much of a fantasy.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1047234
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     Would love to see Ingram on this team.

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    Clarkson

    Ingram

    Randle

    Free Agent Center (can someone with more knowledge of the Lakers front office tell me if Hassan Whiteside is a possible option)

     

    That would make a pretty fantastic young starting 5 that isn’t that much of a fantasy.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1047398
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       Russell, Clarkson, Ingram, and Randle would make a great start. They still come up short a center for today’s game. They need someone who’s 25 or less (Whiteside is 27), who can protect the rim greatly (to make up for Randle), and keep up with small ball lineups. Only a couple players fit that bill: Anthony Davis (NOT happening), Nerlens Noel, Willy Cauley Stein, Myles Turner, and… I’m forgetting somebody. I just don’t see how they get such a player. 

      Perhaps they can hope for one more awful year and keep the top 3 protected pick in the 2016-2017 draft and grab a center. Thon Maker comes to mind. Even that’s unlikely since they MIGHT be starting to click. 

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    • #1047264
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       Russell, Clarkson, Ingram, and Randle would make a great start. They still come up short a center for today’s game. They need someone who’s 25 or less (Whiteside is 27), who can protect the rim greatly (to make up for Randle), and keep up with small ball lineups. Only a couple players fit that bill: Anthony Davis (NOT happening), Nerlens Noel, Willy Cauley Stein, Myles Turner, and… I’m forgetting somebody. I just don’t see how they get such a player. 

      Perhaps they can hope for one more awful year and keep the top 3 protected pick in the 2016-2017 draft and grab a center. Thon Maker comes to mind. Even that’s unlikely since they MIGHT be starting to click. 

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  • #1047380
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    sheltwon3
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     Whiteside would be an interesting pick up but I do wonder about his maturity.  It would be good if Lakers could somehow get a veteran in a trade or something. Hibbert does not look to be the long term answer.  I wonder is Lakers can get Ezile from GSW or Mosgov from Cleveland.

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  • #1047246
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     Whiteside would be an interesting pick up but I do wonder about his maturity.  It would be good if Lakers could somehow get a veteran in a trade or something. Hibbert does not look to be the long term answer.  I wonder is Lakers can get Ezile from GSW or Mosgov from Cleveland.

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    • #1047364
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       Whiteside is a solid bet to take, if you are the lakers. 27 is young enough and it is rare for a young center to go on the market. If the lakers get a good veteran head coach like thibodeau, brooks(at least has playoff experience with stars), or who ever else is out there the maturity issues would be able to be dealt with. He still has some potential to grow since he doesn’t really have much NBA experience, it is a moderate risk with a high reward of possibly putting them over the top in 3 years.

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    • #1047497
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       Whiteside is a solid bet to take, if you are the lakers. 27 is young enough and it is rare for a young center to go on the market. If the lakers get a good veteran head coach like thibodeau, brooks(at least has playoff experience with stars), or who ever else is out there the maturity issues would be able to be dealt with. He still has some potential to grow since he doesn’t really have much NBA experience, it is a moderate risk with a high reward of possibly putting them over the top in 3 years.

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  • #1047400
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    If the Lakers keep their own pick I would like to see them adding some veterans to support and guide their young core in the art of winning. Rather than throtting out only young players they should add some smart players with playoff experience, meaning they should aim for the 8th spot in the West rather than anything else. At center I don’t see Whiteside as a real option due to his maturity issues and questionable fit with their young talents. However, I would like them to pick up someone like Al Horford. He is a very, very smart player who can defend the rim and make an entire team play better with his smart decision making and his versatility. Now signing below the max might be difficult, but even then I believe Horford will remain effective as he gets older (he is like Duncan-lite). 

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  • #1047266
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    Mr. HookShot
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    If the Lakers keep their own pick I would like to see them adding some veterans to support and guide their young core in the art of winning. Rather than throtting out only young players they should add some smart players with playoff experience, meaning they should aim for the 8th spot in the West rather than anything else. At center I don’t see Whiteside as a real option due to his maturity issues and questionable fit with their young talents. However, I would like them to pick up someone like Al Horford. He is a very, very smart player who can defend the rim and make an entire team play better with his smart decision making and his versatility. Now signing below the max might be difficult, but even then I believe Horford will remain effective as he gets older (he is like Duncan-lite). 

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  • #1047412
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    Lakers need 2 positions, sf and center. They’ve been playing Brandon bass a lot at center recently and he is a better basket protector then I realized so with small ball lineups I like him fine as a backup center worth 20 minutes or so a night. Still need a starter though. It’s possible if lakers land at 3, they give Jakob poeltl a look or maybe trade down a few spots to get him. Can dragan bender play center? Available free agents that might be interesting are joakim Noah, Bismarck biyombo and festus ezeli. Otherwise bringing back Hibbert on 1 year deal might be best option.

    As for sf, obviously try and get Durant and derozan on phone. If those guys aren’t interested and the lakers keep top 3 pick, they can go with Ingram, Simmons or jaylen brown. If they can’t land derozan or don’t keep top 3 pick or don’t use top 3 pick on sf, then that doesn’t leave a lot of good options at sf. Barnes already turned down 16 mill per and that’s right where I would want him at so I don’t see that happening. Nicolas batum would be great, but again for right around 15 mill and surely someone else offers him that. Maybe just bring in a guy like Jared Dudley for mid level or something, I just want them to keep with the theme of not overpaying average guys. I also don’t want them to get too old, build from ground up.

    Roster next year

    Pg- Russell, Huertas (bring him back)

    Sg- clarkson (max him out if need be), Lou will

    Sf- nick young???, better get something done here. So far I don’t think Anthony brown is looking like an nba player.

    Pf- Randle, nance …this position is set with those two

    C-???, bass is a solid backup, Tariq black and Robert sacre are third stringers non factors.

    I think Ryan Kelly is worst guy on squad and he should be out the league next year. I’m a meta fan, if there is a 15th roster spot available let him come back if he wants, he knows his role is as mentor and teaches tough work.

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  • #1047278
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    llperez

    Lakers need 2 positions, sf and center. They’ve been playing Brandon bass a lot at center recently and he is a better basket protector then I realized so with small ball lineups I like him fine as a backup center worth 20 minutes or so a night. Still need a starter though. It’s possible if lakers land at 3, they give Jakob poeltl a look or maybe trade down a few spots to get him. Can dragan bender play center? Available free agents that might be interesting are joakim Noah, Bismarck biyombo and festus ezeli. Otherwise bringing back Hibbert on 1 year deal might be best option.

    As for sf, obviously try and get Durant and derozan on phone. If those guys aren’t interested and the lakers keep top 3 pick, they can go with Ingram, Simmons or jaylen brown. If they can’t land derozan or don’t keep top 3 pick or don’t use top 3 pick on sf, then that doesn’t leave a lot of good options at sf. Barnes already turned down 16 mill per and that’s right where I would want him at so I don’t see that happening. Nicolas batum would be great, but again for right around 15 mill and surely someone else offers him that. Maybe just bring in a guy like Jared Dudley for mid level or something, I just want them to keep with the theme of not overpaying average guys. I also don’t want them to get too old, build from ground up.

    Roster next year

    Pg- Russell, Huertas (bring him back)

    Sg- clarkson (max him out if need be), Lou will

    Sf- nick young???, better get something done here. So far I don’t think Anthony brown is looking like an nba player.

    Pf- Randle, nance …this position is set with those two

    C-???, bass is a solid backup, Tariq black and Robert sacre are third stringers non factors.

    I think Ryan Kelly is worst guy on squad and he should be out the league next year. I’m a meta fan, if there is a 15th roster spot available let him come back if he wants, he knows his role is as mentor and teaches tough work.

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    • #1047306
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      ZachAttack
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       Hey llperez… guess what.

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      • #1047340
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        markfitz14
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         What SF might be KD? Lol well thats what Stephen A would have us believe, That KD wants to play in LA.

         

         He could move right in after the Kobe era. A little more to ponder now that the young group is playing pretty well. 

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      • #1047473
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         What SF might be KD? Lol well thats what Stephen A would have us believe, That KD wants to play in LA.

         

         He could move right in after the Kobe era. A little more to ponder now that the young group is playing pretty well. 

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    • #1047439
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       Hey llperez… guess what.

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  • #1047415
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     Russell has taken a lot of heat on here largely because he was drafted over Porz and Okafor but he has had an improving rookie year and with Randle also making solid strides this year a young core is emerging. Clarkson has been a bonus and fills another need, so with a load of salary cap room and a possible top 3 pick this summer the Lakers can round out their starting 5 sooner than we may think.

    Keeping the pick is the key and if they do by default they will have as choice out of 2 or more from Simmons, Ingram, Bender or Brown. As regards FA’s the Lakers probably need to reduce their expectations as a win now top FA would not think the projected Lakers roster is right for them. But an ambitious younger FA or one who already has a title might role the dice with the Lakers.

    The Lakers are still a huge team and being given the chance to be the man with the Lakers is still one of the biggest roles in Basketball. If they get one good FA in then another could easily follow this summer or even next.

    I don’t want the Lakers to mortgage their future in the post Kobe era and hope they rebuild around the young core there.

     

     

     

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  • #1047282
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     Russell has taken a lot of heat on here largely because he was drafted over Porz and Okafor but he has had an improving rookie year and with Randle also making solid strides this year a young core is emerging. Clarkson has been a bonus and fills another need, so with a load of salary cap room and a possible top 3 pick this summer the Lakers can round out their starting 5 sooner than we may think.

    Keeping the pick is the key and if they do by default they will have as choice out of 2 or more from Simmons, Ingram, Bender or Brown. As regards FA’s the Lakers probably need to reduce their expectations as a win now top FA would not think the projected Lakers roster is right for them. But an ambitious younger FA or one who already has a title might role the dice with the Lakers.

    The Lakers are still a huge team and being given the chance to be the man with the Lakers is still one of the biggest roles in Basketball. If they get one good FA in then another could easily follow this summer or even next.

    I don’t want the Lakers to mortgage their future in the post Kobe era and hope they rebuild around the young core there.

     

     

     

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  • #1047417
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     Russell has taken a lot of heat on here largely because he was drafted over Porz and Okafor but he has had an improving rookie year and with Randle also making solid strides this year a young core is emerging. Clarkson has been a bonus and fills another need, so with a load of salary cap room and a possible top 3 pick this summer the Lakers can round out their starting 5 sooner than we may think.

    Keeping the pick is the key and if they do by default they will have as choice out of 2 or more from Simmons, Ingram, Bender or Brown. As regards FA’s the Lakers probably need to reduce their expectations as a win now top FA would not think the projected Lakers roster is right for them. But an ambitious younger FA or one who already has a title might role the dice with the Lakers.

    The Lakers are still a huge team and being given the chance to be the man with the Lakers is still one of the biggest roles in Basketball. If they get one good FA in then another could easily follow this summer or even next.

    I don’t want the Lakers to mortgage their future in the post Kobe era and hope they rebuild around the young core there.

     

     

     

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  • #1047284
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     Russell has taken a lot of heat on here largely because he was drafted over Porz and Okafor but he has had an improving rookie year and with Randle also making solid strides this year a young core is emerging. Clarkson has been a bonus and fills another need, so with a load of salary cap room and a possible top 3 pick this summer the Lakers can round out their starting 5 sooner than we may think.

    Keeping the pick is the key and if they do by default they will have as choice out of 2 or more from Simmons, Ingram, Bender or Brown. As regards FA’s the Lakers probably need to reduce their expectations as a win now top FA would not think the projected Lakers roster is right for them. But an ambitious younger FA or one who already has a title might role the dice with the Lakers.

    The Lakers are still a huge team and being given the chance to be the man with the Lakers is still one of the biggest roles in Basketball. If they get one good FA in then another could easily follow this summer or even next.

    I don’t want the Lakers to mortgage their future in the post Kobe era and hope they rebuild around the young core there.

     

     

     

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  • #1047381
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     The Lakers have a good opportunity to somewhat replicate the Warriors offence. They already have multiple gaurds that can fill it up from long range. With the 1st pick they could draft Simmons as a guy who could rebound, pass and defend similar to Green. At 2 Ingram would provide more spacing and scoring and potentially defensive versatility with his length. A big sleeper for the Lakers would be drafting Poetl with the 3rd pick as a fundimentally sound big man teams need for stability.

    Drafting Poetl this year then targeting someone like Jayson Tatum in the next draft or even signing a guy like Harrison Barnes would give the Lakers a solid core going forward.

     

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    • #1047401
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      OhCanada — It’s like you’re reading my mind!

      I would love for them to also find their Iguadola – a jack of all trades, defensive-minded, unselfish veteran.

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        Mr. HookShot
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        Could Nic Batum be that guy? He is a FA and does all kind of things really well, even though he might be a step down on defense compared to Iggy.

        Another option could be Tyreke Evans as a do-it-all-guy, but then he has to accept that he will be nothing more than a glorified role player, and I’m not sure whether he is a smart enough player to do that.

        And finally… maybe Iggy himself?

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      • #1047468
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        Mr. HookShot
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        Could Nic Batum be that guy? He is a FA and does all kind of things really well, even though he might be a step down on defense compared to Iggy.

        Another option could be Tyreke Evans as a do-it-all-guy, but then he has to accept that he will be nothing more than a glorified role player, and I’m not sure whether he is a smart enough player to do that.

        And finally… maybe Iggy himself?

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    • #1047533
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      OhCanada — It’s like you’re reading my mind!

      I would love for them to also find their Iguadola – a jack of all trades, defensive-minded, unselfish veteran.

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  • #1047514
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    OhCanada-
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     The Lakers have a good opportunity to somewhat replicate the Warriors offence. They already have multiple gaurds that can fill it up from long range. With the 1st pick they could draft Simmons as a guy who could rebound, pass and defend similar to Green. At 2 Ingram would provide more spacing and scoring and potentially defensive versatility with his length. A big sleeper for the Lakers would be drafting Poetl with the 3rd pick as a fundimentally sound big man teams need for stability.

    Drafting Poetl this year then targeting someone like Jayson Tatum in the next draft or even signing a guy like Harrison Barnes would give the Lakers a solid core going forward.

     

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  • #1047393
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     If the Lakers get Luke Walton in-situ, I think they will go all in to get Harrison Barnes.

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     If the Lakers get Luke Walton in-situ, I think they will go all in to get Harrison Barnes.

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  • #1047572
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    Jerrell7
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     Are yall really happy yall drafted russell over Okafor? Yall went against the grain so bad last year in the draft. Okafor was what yall really needed . I honestly believe yall not taking him messed him up. He was yall next great center.  Yall could have had yall guard this year with murray or Dunn forget the fact yall forfeiting the pick if it’s outside 4, yall have no center to make this look right. Randle is averaging a double on boards, that cancels okafor rebounding defecincy.i really don’t understand the logic in the front office. This kobe last year and yall competing against philly for a draft pick. Your team frustrates me more than my own team. Not to mention we got suckered in the Bynum deal. Yall got a nice future with russ, Clark and Randle but wth his going to be the 5?

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  • #1047442
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    Jerrell7
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     Are yall really happy yall drafted russell over Okafor? Yall went against the grain so bad last year in the draft. Okafor was what yall really needed . I honestly believe yall not taking him messed him up. He was yall next great center.  Yall could have had yall guard this year with murray or Dunn forget the fact yall forfeiting the pick if it’s outside 4, yall have no center to make this look right. Randle is averaging a double on boards, that cancels okafor rebounding defecincy.i really don’t understand the logic in the front office. This kobe last year and yall competing against philly for a draft pick. Your team frustrates me more than my own team. Not to mention we got suckered in the Bynum deal. Yall got a nice future with russ, Clark and Randle but wth his going to be the 5?

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    • #1047588
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      Mopgrass
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       Russell was a better pick than Okafor. For the team, for the fit, and overall. A center will show up. 

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    • #1047458
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      Mopgrass
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       Russell was a better pick than Okafor. For the team, for the fit, and overall. A center will show up. 

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  • #1047601
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    Russell has started to look a good NBA prospect, Okafor has looked a good NBA player from day one. Russell possibly has more upside than Okafor but was seen as a risker pick.

    If Okafor will be a solid 18-20/10 player across his career there was a feeling that with the Lakers he’d be a perfect running mate for any subsequent star they added via draft or FA. Also Okafor and Randle would have rounded off their starting frontcourt long term.

    Both Okafor and Randle look good picks for their team and we will always debate who should have gone where out of those two along with Porz and maybe even KAT until we know how they are all panning out.

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  • #1047470
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    Russell has started to look a good NBA prospect, Okafor has looked a good NBA player from day one. Russell possibly has more upside than Okafor but was seen as a risker pick.

    If Okafor will be a solid 18-20/10 player across his career there was a feeling that with the Lakers he’d be a perfect running mate for any subsequent star they added via draft or FA. Also Okafor and Randle would have rounded off their starting frontcourt long term.

    Both Okafor and Randle look good picks for their team and we will always debate who should have gone where out of those two along with Porz and maybe even KAT until we know how they are all panning out.

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  • #1047603
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    llperez

    At time of draft I felt okafor was better prospect then Russell but Russell was better fit and better pick for lakers. Randle is a scorer but not great athlete or rim protector. Pairing okafor together with randle would mean we have 2 bigs who aren’t great defenders and don’t protect rim and that would have been big mistake.

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  • #1047471
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    llperez

    At time of draft I felt okafor was better prospect then Russell but Russell was better fit and better pick for lakers. Randle is a scorer but not great athlete or rim protector. Pairing okafor together with randle would mean we have 2 bigs who aren’t great defenders and don’t protect rim and that would have been big mistake.

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