[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Here’s my list of worst rebounders ever.  No scrubs on the list, just guys who either started or were rotation guys in the league who just didn’t rebound enough for whatever reason. 

Guards:

Steve Kerr (didn’t rebound at all, not sure he crossed the 3 point line on either side.  a shooting specialist who just shot spot-up jumpers).

Reggie Miller: an all-time great shooter and had great scoring stats, but he didn’t rebound like he should have.  A below-average rebounder at best.  Worse, given his height (6’7) and long arms.

Ben Gordon: a shooter, not a rebounder. one dimensional gunner.

OJ Mayo: if he focused he could get more rebounds, but when he started it seemed like he didn’t rebound enough.

Forwards: 

Bargs: never a rebounder.  more of an outside shooter.  for a seven footer who starts and plays big minutes, getting an average of 5 boards a night is pathetic.

Bruce Bowen: as a supposed hard-nosed, scrappy player I never really took him for a rebounding threat.  Somewhat overrated given that he could not score and his vaunted defense consisted of chop-blocks, arm locks, stepping on people’s feet, and undercutting jump shooters.  His only offense was the patented corner 3 pointer with a patented 35% success rate (currently on loan to Shane Battier). 

Danny Ferry: a famous bust who’s "revival" on the Cavs later on in his career consisted of 8-9 points and 4-5 rebounds as a small forward and power forward.  Basically a stretch four who couldn’t really rebound and couldn’t really shoot 3’s.  Either the most hard-nosed soft player off all time more the softest hard-nosed player of all-time.  Like fellow non-rebounder Reggie Miller he really hated the Knicks and lit them up several times. 

Carl Herrera: a backup on the ’94 Rockets title team and the starting center on the ’95 Rockets team.  Didn’t really rebound much but given how Hakeem scored at will and how those teams were red-hot from 3 then I guess there weren’t a lot of rebounds to go around.  The 1995 Rockets was one of the rarest championship teams ever (made a HUGE trade halfway through the season to get Drexler, only won 47 games, started a below average power forward at best with Carl Herrera, and shot the 3 more than any other championship team I have ever seen).

Centers

Brook Lopez: a bad rebounder who actually rebounded LESS in 2011.  Maybe he is trying to be the next Brad Daugherty.

Luc Longley: grabbed a few a game, but that was it.  Let Rodman grab the rebounds.  Let Scottie and MJ grab the rest. Let MJ, Pippen, and Kukoc score. Let Bill Wennington shoot mid-range jumpers and bring in the fake toughness. Luc was very considerate in that way.  He also didn’t want Steve Kerr to look like a bad rebounder I guess.

Manute Bol: 7’7 with long arms but he only grabbed 3 or 4 rebounds a night.  Basically only a shot blocker who could swat flys in the upper deck while patrolling the paint.  Not really an offensive threat.  All he could do was hit three’s and dunk without jumping.  I have always wondered why teams couldn’t utilize a 7’7 human Star Wars program who could dunk on his tippy-toes and hit the 3.  Those sound like elite skills to me. 

 

Dishonorable mention: Dominique Wilkins and Vince Carter never rebounded enough given there supposed star status. It’s one thing to be a lanky one-dimensional scorer (Reggie Miller, George Gervin), it’s another thing to be a long one-dimensionsal scorer with first ballot Hall of Fame athleticism.

 

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

 i don’t blame steve kerr for being a bad rebounder, thats not him ! Thats like blaming shaq for not making enought 3’s 

[JoeWolf1]

 Carl Herrera?? WTF.  He wasn’t a horrible rebounder, he wasn’t a scrub, but didn’t play enough to ever have a big season, was pretty average and never averaged more than 25 minutes a game, per 36 minutes he averaged over 7 on his career.  

If Carl Herrera was the starting center on the 95′ title team why is the thing I remember most about that Finals was Olajuwon destroying a young Shaq?  If you meant PF it was Rob Horry who started for them.

[cabbycabParticipant]

‘Nique averaged 7 per for career, not bad for a small forward.  Averaged 9 boards in ’91.  He was a pretty good rebounder in my book. 

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Channing Frye, I swear that dude is allergic to the paint

[TimbosliceParticipant]

I’m sorry but this is kinda dumb, most of these guys just weren’t rebounders or didn’t need to, it wasn’t their game and u can’t knock them for it. like the guy above me said, Dominique wasn’t a bad rebounder… 7 rpg career is pretty good to me

[JoeWolf1]

 Yeah, I understand the thought behind Dominique, but Lebron James is considered a good rebounder for a small forward and he has averaged 7.1 on his career and he’s never averaged more than 8 on a season.  You can jump out of the gym like Nique’ but position and where a player is on the floor plays a part in rebounding as well, if you’re guarding a guy out on the wing you’re not going to be in as good of position to get the rebound as a guy down on the low block.  7 for a small forward is pretty good no matter if you have a 24” or 44” vert.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

7 rebounds for a starting small forward is average.  With Nique’s athelticism he should have rebounded more.  He only averaged more than 7 rebounds 4 times in his career (his average was 6.7).  In his 11 full seasons with the Hawks he averaged under 6.5 rebounds three times, and right at 6.5 rebounds twice. 

I looked at the stats on Carl Herrera and he started 26 times on that 1995 team, presumably after Otis Thorpe got traded.  Horry started 61 games that year and Elie started 13.  After Otis Thorpe got traded it looks like they went with a lineup of Hakeem at the 5, Herrera at the 4, and Elie at the 3.  Horry was more of a scorer/three-point shooter/shot-blocker which would have made Carl Herrera the secondary rebounder on that team after Thorpe got traded.  And he seemed to be average at best.  (Herrera didn’t start at center, that was a typo on my part).  So he did make some starts, and one was one of only 2 big men used by the Rockets with Hakeem being the other one.  Horry played both forward spots (averaging just over 5 rebounds a game on those title teams) and focused on things other than rebounding.  Herrera’s main job was to rebound and bang and he wasn’t that great at that.  … the Rockets team wasn’t a good rebounding team all year, and was worse after they got Clyde Drexler.  If rebounds and defense win rings, no one told the ’95 Rockets who won with Olajuwon’s brilliance, Clyde’s solid all-around game, 3 pointers, and a mediocre rebounding effort by committee (outside of Hakeem).

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

About Herrera: Did he get hurt that year before the playoffs?  It only shows him playing 1 game in the playoffs that year.

Well, Herrera only averaged 4.5 boards a couple of years later with the Spurs playing 24.5 minutes a game.  Translated to 36 minutes a night that would be 6.7 rebounds per night which still rather average for a power forward who isn’t really a perimeter-oriented scoring power forward (as opposed to Horry who was the original athletic stretch four).

in the 1994 playoffs Carl Herrara averaged 2.8 rebounds off the bench in 15.5 minutes a night which sounds fairly below average as a backup power forward with decent minutes.

[AKOOParticipant]

People get bored and come up with dumb posts

[surveParticipant]

Some of these guys were pretty good rebounders but their game focus had other emphasis, like Dominique…good rebounder, particularly offensive put backs…you must not know.  Nique was a small foward who played some guard later in his career…he was a very good rebounder if you consider he was a wiry guy.  Likewise with Miller, these guys just didnt hang around close to the basket much because their games were to spot up or one on one off the dribble so they just played further from the basket.

[surveParticipant]

Also, Nique played with a great rebounder in Kevin Willis, that affects it too, its like Bosh would average more boards per if Bron and Wade didnt avg 14 boards between them.

[JoeWolf1]

 The only reason I brought up Herrera is because it just doesn’t make sense he’s on the list.  He’s just a random bench player from the 90’s, when he was playing he was never pegged as a bad rebounder.  I’m not arguing he’s a good rebounder, he’s just very average and a career backup.  That’d be like putting Malik Allen or Walter McCarty on the list.  That’s just my opinion.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 What’s Channing Fryes excuse? 

[cabbycabParticipant]

What’s Channing Fryes excuse?

 

Think baby’s butt. 

[TimbosliceParticipant]

Yea frye was more of a rebounder/shotblocker at Arizona, now he’s purely a spot-up shooting center… Weird transformation

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Exactly Timboslice, he’s from where I grew up and he was never known as a spot-up shooter until he went to the Suns.  He seemed much tougher at UA.

[JJeff6Participant]

I watched just about every game this year of the Suns and actually, he still is mainly a spot up shooter but I will say that he has been making improvement on his inside game.  He had a game in Oklahoma where he was doing nothing but hitting hook shots down low and driving to the basket and by i think mid 4th quarter he had about 15 rebounds.  Unfortunately that was the game where he got injured but I’m hoping he becomes more of an all-around type player next year.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 That’s what his game used to be at St. Mary’s high school and at Arizona so I figured he’d do it more often, i guess he just fell in love with his jumper since that’s what the suns system asked of him.  

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