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- Posted on: Mon, 02/08/2016 - 7:29pm #62709
JDB12ParticipantI’ve been thinking about what the Wolves priorities should be, in my opinion. A lot of people, including myself, think that they should move Rubio and either draft, or possibly use the pick to acquire a new PG. And while I do think that’s a good idea, and a move I think they need to make sometime in the near future, I think they might have higher priorities. In this draft, there are a plethora of young big men with a lot of potential, and right now the Wolves only big men who are consistently producing and healthy are Towns and Dieng. The front line is thin and if either of them get injured, the Wolves are in trouble. The Wolves are trying to get rid of Pek and his contract which is probably the top of the priority list, so that leaves them with Bjelica, Garnett, and Payne. And none of them get many minutes due to their lack of on court productivity. So if they don’t have the opportunity to take Simmons or Ingram, would the Wolves drafting a Davis, Bender, Poeltl, Stone, or Zimmerman be a smart move for them? What is convenient for the Wolves is that both Towns and Dieng can play both the 4 and 5, so they could draft a true PF or C and play those two the opposite position.
If you agree that they should take a big man, who should they take? If you disagree, what are your thoughts on what the Wolves should do?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/08/2016 - 10:05pm #1041700
wonzi_bellsParticipantI mean, outside of Simmons and Ingram, I’m sort of skeptical of the Wolves finding an impact player that’ll fit with them longterm in this year’s draft.
I don’t think you trade Rubio for the sake of just trading him. He still very much has some impact that helps the team, even though his shooting hurts the spacing of the team, especially with Wiggins. Also, as an asset, I feel he’s more valuable to the Wolves in trade market since he’s already with us and other teams will probably low-ball them with their offers. Nobody’s really going out of their way to get a ball-dominant point guard who can’t shoot from anywhere on the floor. So it’ll be hard to move him while getting a fair and good offer, thus making hard to take a point guard in the draft like Dunn or Murray, who to me, also aren’t great fits with the Wolves. Also, on top of that, 2017 NBA Draft is so full of point guards who seem better that I rather the Wolves just wait on a lottery of Smith, Fox, Fultz, Monk and Ntilikina since I still see the Wolves in the lottery for one more year.
Outside of Simmons and Ingram, I was surprised you didn’t mention Ellenson. I think he’s the most power forward-like out of all the bigs in the lottery and has the potentially to be a pretty productive big in the NBA. I think whoever the Wolves bring in, if they chose a big, should adjust to Towns and to a lesser extent Dieng and not the other way around. You want maximize Towns’ ability and you do that by playing him at the center position, so all prospects coming in should fall under that line because I’m pretty sure all the bigs in this draft aren’t ever going to be on Towns’ level. Ellenson has the right mix of stretch shooting, passing ability and rebounding that Labissiere, Rabb, Davis and Stone don’t have and like Poeltl, Bender seems like a center in the longterm and the Wolves don’t need another one and his buyout scares me too.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/08/2016 - 10:05pm #1041563
wonzi_bellsParticipantI mean, outside of Simmons and Ingram, I’m sort of skeptical of the Wolves finding an impact player that’ll fit with them longterm in this year’s draft.
I don’t think you trade Rubio for the sake of just trading him. He still very much has some impact that helps the team, even though his shooting hurts the spacing of the team, especially with Wiggins. Also, as an asset, I feel he’s more valuable to the Wolves in trade market since he’s already with us and other teams will probably low-ball them with their offers. Nobody’s really going out of their way to get a ball-dominant point guard who can’t shoot from anywhere on the floor. So it’ll be hard to move him while getting a fair and good offer, thus making hard to take a point guard in the draft like Dunn or Murray, who to me, also aren’t great fits with the Wolves. Also, on top of that, 2017 NBA Draft is so full of point guards who seem better that I rather the Wolves just wait on a lottery of Smith, Fox, Fultz, Monk and Ntilikina since I still see the Wolves in the lottery for one more year.
Outside of Simmons and Ingram, I was surprised you didn’t mention Ellenson. I think he’s the most power forward-like out of all the bigs in the lottery and has the potentially to be a pretty productive big in the NBA. I think whoever the Wolves bring in, if they chose a big, should adjust to Towns and to a lesser extent Dieng and not the other way around. You want maximize Towns’ ability and you do that by playing him at the center position, so all prospects coming in should fall under that line because I’m pretty sure all the bigs in this draft aren’t ever going to be on Towns’ level. Ellenson has the right mix of stretch shooting, passing ability and rebounding that Labissiere, Rabb, Davis and Stone don’t have and like Poeltl, Bender seems like a center in the longterm and the Wolves don’t need another one and his buyout scares me too.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/09/2016 - 2:49am #1041720

zolaParticipantIvan Rabb, if he declares
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/09/2016 - 2:49am #1041583

zolaParticipantIvan Rabb, if he declares
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/09/2016 - 2:59am #1041722

HitsterParticipantI agree that outside of Ingram and Simmons the Wolves can almost have a BPA approach bar maybe taking Dunn and Poetel as they have a lot of depth at C and PG.
Personally I think they keep Rubio, I’ve always been a big Rubio fan for nearly a decade so maybe I do look at him favourably but if the T-Wolves use him as a pure PG who can take a few shots he helps to spread the floor for the likes of Wiggins, KAT etc.
If the T-Wolves did fall a bit in the lottery to 5 for example then they might consider trade offers if there is no-one in the lottery they fancy. This would obviously be after working out all the players in their draft range and seeing what sort of offers they get as a high draft pick could be a nice trade carrot for a lot of teams.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/09/2016 - 2:59am #1041586

HitsterParticipantI agree that outside of Ingram and Simmons the Wolves can almost have a BPA approach bar maybe taking Dunn and Poetel as they have a lot of depth at C and PG.
Personally I think they keep Rubio, I’ve always been a big Rubio fan for nearly a decade so maybe I do look at him favourably but if the T-Wolves use him as a pure PG who can take a few shots he helps to spread the floor for the likes of Wiggins, KAT etc.
If the T-Wolves did fall a bit in the lottery to 5 for example then they might consider trade offers if there is no-one in the lottery they fancy. This would obviously be after working out all the players in their draft range and seeing what sort of offers they get as a high draft pick could be a nice trade carrot for a lot of teams.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/09/2016 - 4:41am #1041742

canadabasketballisrisingParticipantI always think when in doubt draft BPA, and you can always find a rotational big in free agency.
Tho, if it’s close, i wouldn’t want to replicate talent, and draft a Brown with Wiggins.
If that happens to be a big, go for it.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/09/2016 - 4:41am #1041605

canadabasketballisrisingParticipantI always think when in doubt draft BPA, and you can always find a rotational big in free agency.
Tho, if it’s close, i wouldn’t want to replicate talent, and draft a Brown with Wiggins.
If that happens to be a big, go for it.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/09/2016 - 9:52am #1041707

TravelinTravParticipantWho in this years draft would be the best fit for the Wolves? If you could pick anyone in the draft who would fit the team to build around KAT who would you take?
Simmons? A great play maker, one of a kind skill set, doesn’t shoot well and D is average (I’ve been told)
Ingram? Another 2 or 3 on the team, great touch, good shooter, slim and long.
Dunn? Could he become a PG of the future? Quick, long, smart, Minni John Wall.
Heild? 3 point stud, he may fit nicely off double teams from KAT, may get a lot of open looks.
Rabb? Good PF with potential, would be nice to have another threat down low next to Towns.
Jaylen? Another athletic wing who’s a few years from getting to his potential, He would be with the 2nd unit for his 1st year or 2. (Or he might surprise me and start @ the 2)
I think the best FIT not the beat player would be Heild, not saying they should draft him but if we get the 5th or 6
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/09/2016 - 9:52am #1041844

TravelinTravParticipantWho in this years draft would be the best fit for the Wolves? If you could pick anyone in the draft who would fit the team to build around KAT who would you take?
Simmons? A great play maker, one of a kind skill set, doesn’t shoot well and D is average (I’ve been told)
Ingram? Another 2 or 3 on the team, great touch, good shooter, slim and long.
Dunn? Could he become a PG of the future? Quick, long, smart, Minni John Wall.
Heild? 3 point stud, he may fit nicely off double teams from KAT, may get a lot of open looks.
Rabb? Good PF with potential, would be nice to have another threat down low next to Towns.
Jaylen? Another athletic wing who’s a few years from getting to his potential, He would be with the 2nd unit for his 1st year or 2. (Or he might surprise me and start @ the 2)
I think the best FIT not the beat player would be Heild, not saying they should draft him but if we get the 5th or 6
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/10/2016 - 8:58am #1041933

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantI do not understand the argument to deal Rubio. They have a roster of gifted young scorers, but no one else to really make sure they get their opportunities and get the ball in the best position. When you have Karl-Anthony Towns with Rubio, you know your point guard is not going to forget about him. You know he will reward Gorgui Dieng for his dirty work. Wiggins, LaVine, and Muhammad are good players, but they do not have that mentality. Honestly, with as many Dieng-and-unders as they have, dealing their pick for a veteran who can both contribute on the floor and lead off it might be for the best.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/10/2016 - 8:58am #1042070

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantI do not understand the argument to deal Rubio. They have a roster of gifted young scorers, but no one else to really make sure they get their opportunities and get the ball in the best position. When you have Karl-Anthony Towns with Rubio, you know your point guard is not going to forget about him. You know he will reward Gorgui Dieng for his dirty work. Wiggins, LaVine, and Muhammad are good players, but they do not have that mentality. Honestly, with as many Dieng-and-unders as they have, dealing their pick for a veteran who can both contribute on the floor and lead off it might be for the best.
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