[the27guyParticipant]

Dear Wizards fans,

 

I’m interested to know how you’d feel if the following trade was made. It does not work on the trade machine, but that’s because the trade machine still shows a bunch of Wizard players counting against the cap that do not have a contract for next season  (Yi, Nick Young, Josh Howard, etc).

 

Al Jefferson and the #3 overall pick

for

Javale McGee and the #6 pick

 

[WizardofOzParticipant]

Wizards aren’t trading McGee, even to move up in this year’s draft. And as a Wizards fan, I don’t want Jefferson. He’s a good player, but I want no part in his contract.

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 that trade would be awesome for the jazz  because they could draft vessely with the 6th pick the jimmer with the 12th and there starting five for next year would be

pg-Fredette 

sg-Gordan Heyward

sf-Vessely

pf-Favors

c-McGee

and that line up in a couple of years would be awesome but for the Wizards i wouldnt like it because then the only pick that could really work would be for Kanter and moving Jefferson to the pf but besides that it basically sucks

[WizardofOzParticipant]

^^ Agreed

[WizardofOzParticipant]

But since you’re a Jazz fan, what about this trade scenario that I think would benefit both teams.

Jazz trade: #3 pick and Mehmet Okur
Jazz receive: #6 pick, #18 pick, and #34 pick

Wizards trade: #6 pick, #18 pick, and #34 pick
Wizards receive: #3 pick and Mehmet Okur

Why for the Jazz?: By the trading for Okur, it gives the Jazz almost $11 Million in cap relief THIS YEAR… Frees up additional minutes for Derrick Favors and with the #6 pick, they should still be able to get their guy in the draft (It’s rumored they like Brandon Knight and/or Kemba Walker, or they can take another prospect they might like), and I think that both of those guys are an upgrade over Harris. And the Jazz receive two more picks to jumpstart the rebuild.

Why for the Wiz?: It is very important that the Wiz get a starting-caliber player with their first pick, and they don’t need a PG, so they move up to get Kanter. Personally I don’t think Kanter should be picked this high, but he’s the better fit for the Wiz than any other team, and there aren’t many other players that fit well other than him. And maybe Okur can mentor Kanter since they’re both Turkish.

Thoughts?

[the27guyParticipant]

 Wizardofoz,

 

Would you feel the same way if the Wolves take Kanter #2, and you know you can get Williams?

[WizardofOzParticipant]

"Would you feel the same way if the Wolves take Kanter #2, and you know you can get Williams?"

I’m actually higher on Kanter than I am on Williams, so I guess I would feel the same way. Other Wizards fans might disagree though.

[the27guyParticipant]

 That’s an interesting idea. 

My initial reaction is no though. I’ve lived in Utah and been a Jazz fan my whole life, and I have a pretty good feel for how the organization works. I know there are rumors that the team might be interested in Walker, but I flat out don’t buy those rumors even a little, and I think Knight is gone at 6.  

More importantly though, I believe the Jazz want Kanter. I don’t think they’ll let anyone outside OConner, Perrin, Fredman, and Corbin know that until draft night, but I believe that’s true. Just a hunch. 

I think they believe Favors can be the great defensive player that will makeup for Kanter’s lack of length, and athleticism, while Kanter can be the rugged, blue collar, offensively skilled guy that I believe the Jazz think he is.

Does everyone in Washington feel as strongly about McGee as you do? I like the guy a lot but I question his maturity. Thoughts?

[the27guyParticipant]

 I’m higher on Kanter too. I don’t think this is as clear cut of a "two player draft" as people are acting like it is. I actually think Chris Singleton will be a better pro than Williams.

[WizardofOzParticipant]

I agree with everything you said @theguy27. And in regards to McGee, basically every Wizards fan I kow wouldn’t trade him to move up in this draft. He isn’t very mature and smart, but he has more potential then any other player in this draft. I think he has the potential to be an All-Star, and while some people question wheter he’ll actually reach that level, most of the guys at the top of this draft have question marks too. Williams is a tweener, and I questionw whether he’ll be able to guard the perimeter. And while I like Kanter, He hasn’t played in over a year, and the sample size is too small for me to consider trading a 7′ tall freak of nature in McGee.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I really like that 2nd deal that was mentioned in this thread. I would not mind the Jazz trading down just as long as they don’t throw this chance away. Getting the 6, 12, 18, and 34th picks is definitely not throwing this draft away and gives the Jazz the chance to get many assets that they like as well as improve their chances of making the post-season next year. But also the Jazz would have to receive someone as well as the 6th, 18th, and 34th picks in order to make the salaries match. Okur has a big contract and since is the only player with a contract in that deal that salary has to be matched by what the Wizards offer. But I’m sure something can be worked out along those lines.

However, I do not like the first deal, mainly because it means the Jazz would have to give up Al Jefferson. While I am open to the idea of trading Jefferson it has to be the right deal and that is not it. When you trade Jefferson you need to either get back someone that can make up for his production or find someone on your team that can do it. McGee can not make up for losing Jefferson. Plain and simple as that. He might be able to do it later on but that’s not likely and I’m not even quite sure that I like him. I do like Vesely but I don’t think he is going to be an all-star in the NBA and that basically what you would have to be in order to make up for Jefferson.

That leaves the Jazz team, specifically Derrick Favors or Paul Millsap; can either of them make up for losing Jefferson. The answer is no, not right now. And that is what is important. Favors is still raw, he is still learning the offense and still learning how he can be effective. He is very young and he has shown some potential, I think he has a bright future in the NBA but he probably won’t assume that role until 2 or 3 years into his career. He simply isn’t ready to take over for Jefferson and be focal point of the Jazz offense. Maybe later on down the road in about 2 to 3 years, but not right now.

Millsap is small and undersized for his position. This effects how he plays the game because he has to compensate and has a tough time playing against bigger players. He is not going to get any better then he is right now, and he certainly isn’t to grow any taller. While his contribution to the team has masked his small size it is still apparent that he does not have the same advantage as other starting PF’s have. This does affect his ability starting, but when he comes off the bench he does much better and is much more effective. Considering all this Millsap would not make up for the loss of Jefferson.

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