[KidBParticipant]

Assuming that the Sixers don’t have to trade away their 3rd and 10th picks,  I believe this is a very achievable lineup to look forward to:

* Adreian Payne ( PF ) 

* Andrew Wiggins ( SF )

* Nerlens Noel ( C )

* Gary Harris (SG )

* MCW ( PG )

Notes:  Adreian Payne we get from trading Thad & #32 to a team like Phoenix for one of their picks in the teens (ex.  #18). 

Gary Harris we get from our own #10 pick.

We get the exact kind of team we want without any fancy schmancy wheelin & dealin.  We reunite two stars from Michigan State and we don’t have to start over too much because of the chemistry that Payne and Harris already have between them.  AND, assuming that he slips down to 3 for us, we only get throw our new face-of-the-franchise in there as an added bonus.  I don’t know about other people, but this is a very exciting team to watch and will make you a Sixers fan all over again. 

 

[BrentSuriaga01Participant]

Is a good player but I don’t buy him with that #10 pick for the sixers. If Gordon or Lavine is available, I would rather gamble with one of them because of untapped potential

[BrentSuriaga01Participant]

Is a good player but I don’t buy him with that #10 pick for the sixers. If Gordon or Lavine is available, I would rather gamble with one of them because of untapped potential

[frogmanParticipant]

Well it’s a young, talented team that will get you another top 4 pick next year if nothing else.  NBA teams simply don’t start 4 rookies and a sophomore.  You may argue that they can grow and learn together but getting wallopped every night is not good for the morale and won’t convince any free agents to come.  They need some kind of veteran leadership.

Wiggins, Noel, MCW and the 10th pick is more than enough youth.  Trading Thad Young and an early 2nd round pick for the 18th pick is absurd.

 

[frogmanParticipant]

Well it’s a young, talented team that will get you another top 4 pick next year if nothing else.  NBA teams simply don’t start 4 rookies and a sophomore.  You may argue that they can grow and learn together but getting wallopped every night is not good for the morale and won’t convince any free agents to come.  They need some kind of veteran leadership.

Wiggins, Noel, MCW and the 10th pick is more than enough youth.  Trading Thad Young and an early 2nd round pick for the 18th pick is absurd.

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 To me that lineup would be waaaay better if it was Stauskas instead of Harris there.  Need a solid shooter at that 2 spot to open up some space for Wiggins and MCW.  Not to mention he can create a little bit and his defensive liabilities would be hidden with such a big PG and Wiggins playing next to him.

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

Harris is a solid shooter, and he’s more athletic and plays defense…easily a better fit.

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

Harris is a solid shooter, and he’s more athletic and plays defense…easily a better fit.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 To me that lineup would be waaaay better if it was Stauskas instead of Harris there.  Need a solid shooter at that 2 spot to open up some space for Wiggins and MCW.  Not to mention he can create a little bit and his defensive liabilities would be hidden with such a big PG and Wiggins playing next to him.

[trelos6Participant]

This line up would be good for a few years, but then when it comes time to pay everyone after rookie contracts are up, it’s going to be tough. 

[trelos6Participant]

This line up would be good for a few years, but then when it comes time to pay everyone after rookie contracts are up, it’s going to be tough. 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 Why are all Sixer fans itching to trade Thaddeus? He has a reasonable contract and is a great veteran leader. From what I’ve heard he commands a lot of respect in the locker room. And no team can win that has a starting lineup comprised of rookies and sophmores. 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 Why are all Sixer fans itching to trade Thaddeus? He has a reasonable contract and is a great veteran leader. From what I’ve heard he commands a lot of respect in the locker room. And no team can win that has a starting lineup comprised of rookies and sophmores. 

[joecheck88Participant]

 Yea they need to keep Thad for at least half the season. We have seen good young talent not mesh because of lack of leadership. I think a key to OKCs success has been guys like Fisher and Collison. You need a couple savvy vets to get some minutes and mentor guys. Of course they have talent as well but I think it helps a young team mature faster. I think they need to sign a couple vets as well as keep Thad for half a season. The sixers don’t need to start all those young guys. It could kill their confidence. MCW hasn’t been the most mature guy in his life and I don’t think it would be a bad thing for the Sixers to get Parker and Stauskas. They are two mature guys that can play. Think that’ll go a long way for a young team. If you can trade a few of those 2nd rounders for a late first for a decent big then do it but otherwise draft some Int’l guys and stash. 

Just be patient. This team is still 2 years from a playoff team at best unless there are a trades. If they just mesh their young guys it will be a couple years but you need the vets around so you don’t turn into a Sacramento or Minnesota. Good young talented teams that don’t know how to win. 

[joecheck88Participant]

 Yea they need to keep Thad for at least half the season. We have seen good young talent not mesh because of lack of leadership. I think a key to OKCs success has been guys like Fisher and Collison. You need a couple savvy vets to get some minutes and mentor guys. Of course they have talent as well but I think it helps a young team mature faster. I think they need to sign a couple vets as well as keep Thad for half a season. The sixers don’t need to start all those young guys. It could kill their confidence. MCW hasn’t been the most mature guy in his life and I don’t think it would be a bad thing for the Sixers to get Parker and Stauskas. They are two mature guys that can play. Think that’ll go a long way for a young team. If you can trade a few of those 2nd rounders for a late first for a decent big then do it but otherwise draft some Int’l guys and stash. 

Just be patient. This team is still 2 years from a playoff team at best unless there are a trades. If they just mesh their young guys it will be a couple years but you need the vets around so you don’t turn into a Sacramento or Minnesota. Good young talented teams that don’t know how to win. 

[negguaryParticipant]

I don’t think it would be as hard to pay all of them when their rookie contracts are up being that we wont be signing any free agents and would have a ton of money on the books still. Plus there are so many ways to set up contracts that you can pay everyone.

[negguaryParticipant]

I don’t think it would be as hard to pay all of them when their rookie contracts are up being that we wont be signing any free agents and would have a ton of money on the books still. Plus there are so many ways to set up contracts that you can pay everyone.

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

If we do I believe he can play some Sg, and we can draft BPA at 10 and 32, than use our Cap Space to sign a Sf that could stretch the floor(the perfect fit would be Chandler Parsons)

Id would love to keep Thad Young and simply move 10, 32 and Cash to LA or Sacramento and move up to grab Randle/Vonleh or Gordon to play Pf in the future

My ideal 2014-2015 76ers line up is

MCW-Patty Mills (FA, we a backup PG)

Wiggins(3rd pick)-Tony Wroten(should be a 6th man)

Chandler Parsons (RFA)- Late 2nd rounder(???)

Thad Young(could be traded at deadline or kept as 6th man)-Randle/Vonleh/Gordon (10th pick/trade up)

Nerlens Noel-Arnett Moultrie-Byron Mullens

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

If we do I believe he can play some Sg, and we can draft BPA at 10 and 32, than use our Cap Space to sign a Sf that could stretch the floor(the perfect fit would be Chandler Parsons)

Id would love to keep Thad Young and simply move 10, 32 and Cash to LA or Sacramento and move up to grab Randle/Vonleh or Gordon to play Pf in the future

My ideal 2014-2015 76ers line up is

MCW-Patty Mills (FA, we a backup PG)

Wiggins(3rd pick)-Tony Wroten(should be a 6th man)

Chandler Parsons (RFA)- Late 2nd rounder(???)

Thad Young(could be traded at deadline or kept as 6th man)-Randle/Vonleh/Gordon (10th pick/trade up)

Nerlens Noel-Arnett Moultrie-Byron Mullens

 

[KidBParticipant]

 Why do you have Arnett Moultrie in there, who’s basically a bum, instead of Henry Sims ?

[KidBParticipant]

 Why do you have Arnett Moultrie in there, who’s basically a bum, instead of Henry Sims ?

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Henry Sims is a decent backup but he is not a long term option for us…

We gave up a future pick for Moultrie so we have to see what we can salvage from him as a player

 

[KidBParticipant]

 You’ve gotta be kidding me,  dude.  Henry Sims showed a ton promises last year.  He was our best backup for Spencer Hawes,  and became our best Center after Hawes left.   Byron Mullens and Arnett Moultrie were scrub fill-ins and tryouts that have absolutely no future in the league, and you’d rather have those two retards over a steal like Henry Sims ?  I think your either delusional, or just pulling our chains. 

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

He’s delusional.

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

He’s delusional.

[KidBParticipant]

 You’ve gotta be kidding me,  dude.  Henry Sims showed a ton promises last year.  He was our best backup for Spencer Hawes,  and became our best Center after Hawes left.   Byron Mullens and Arnett Moultrie were scrub fill-ins and tryouts that have absolutely no future in the league, and you’d rather have those two retards over a steal like Henry Sims ?  I think your either delusional, or just pulling our chains. 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Henry Sims is a decent backup but he is not a long term option for us…

We gave up a future pick for Moultrie so we have to see what we can salvage from him as a player

 

[tidhoParticipant]

* Adreian Payne ( PF ) * Andrew Wiggins ( SF ) * Nerlens Noel ( C ) * Gary Harris (SG ) * MCW ( PG )

That is a high potential lineup that projects pretty well on both ends.  I think they’d have problems with physical teams though.  Noel is going to get pushed around and Wiggens doesn’t have the bulk to play major minutes at SF yet.  Team would need to add veteran leadership to the bench too.

 

If they could keep that group together into their second contracts then look out.

[KidBParticipant]

 Yeah, your right.  But they’re gonna be one of the longest and most athletic teams in the league,  and I think Payne can be a bruiser in the post. 

[KidBParticipant]

 Yeah, your right.  But they’re gonna be one of the longest and most athletic teams in the league,  and I think Payne can be a bruiser in the post. 

[tidhoParticipant]

* Adreian Payne ( PF ) * Andrew Wiggins ( SF ) * Nerlens Noel ( C ) * Gary Harris (SG ) * MCW ( PG )

That is a high potential lineup that projects pretty well on both ends.  I think they’d have problems with physical teams though.  Noel is going to get pushed around and Wiggens doesn’t have the bulk to play major minutes at SF yet.  Team would need to add veteran leadership to the bench too.

 

If they could keep that group together into their second contracts then look out.

[bmac697Participant]

 IMO the best case scenario for me would be select wiggins at three, which is more likely after reading on that embiid is getting checked out by doctors and if given the okay will be the number one pick. Parker will be going to Milwaukee, they need someone who can come in right away and help with the scoring load, that leaves wiggins for philly. If somehow sized and package their 10 young and whatever second rounders to move up to let’s say 7th lakers pick and randle falls, select him. This is my dream scenario and I know already talked about this on other threads but that could happen and would give sixers another more prospects to an already solid group. If they stay around the bottom for next year they can grab another star player. If they keep the tenth I like Gordon stauskas 

[bmac697Participant]

 IMO the best case scenario for me would be select wiggins at three, which is more likely after reading on that embiid is getting checked out by doctors and if given the okay will be the number one pick. Parker will be going to Milwaukee, they need someone who can come in right away and help with the scoring load, that leaves wiggins for philly. If somehow sized and package their 10 young and whatever second rounders to move up to let’s say 7th lakers pick and randle falls, select him. This is my dream scenario and I know already talked about this on other threads but that could happen and would give sixers another more prospects to an already solid group. If they stay around the bottom for next year they can grab another star player. If they keep the tenth I like Gordon stauskas 

[arjundhanoaParticipant]

The only reason why you throw Thad in when making such a deal would be if you’re getting some solid value.

Thad was a top 10 pick, and has been anything but a failure. Why throw him away for nothing? He doesn’t have an albatross contract. He’s a plus contributor who has always shown a willingness to be a glue guy – always playing solid D while also shooting around 50% and only upping his usage when his team needed him to take on a greater scoring burden.

You’re gonna have to pay some players next year, as I believe the NBA has a minimum cap expenditure. Even if they don’t, it’s human nature for the GM to spend available cap space on some FA’s just to justify his existence. Do you really wanna sign a guy just because you have space, like Orlando did bringing in Lewis & thereafter Turk to pair with Dwight? It’s about having every contract being a net positive, by aquiring under valued role players/up-and-comers, or re-signing your own guys to cap friendly deals. If their perceived value is too high then you can trade them pre-extension.

I can understand trading Thad at some point in the event he’s stunting the growth of your future core-players (namely MCW, 3rd overall pick and possibly #10 pick). The issue is if you have a bunch of young players who are getting free reign, u risk the possibility of turning them into shot-first inefficient losers who put up some numbers. This builds up their market value and deludes them into thinking what kind of player they ought to be in the league.

Bottom line is you never wanna ruin your top picks, a la Bennett/Beasley/Kwame by beating down on them and giving them no run. It’s about finding that fine line and getting them to develop into guys who have confidence but can operate within the team concept. Noel is already the perfect fit with whoever you draft, as he’s the type who will make an impact without the ball, like a Tyson/DeAndre/Big Ben, allowing the guys you bring in to get enough looks on O to develop.

And if you had 5 youngins, it would absolutely be a problem when their contracts come up. OKC had 3 studs and had to trade Harden on what can only now be considered a salary dump. Not that Adams isn’t good, or that Lamb can’t play, rather Brooks has some mental block that keeps him from playing Lamb and keeps them playing Perk. He should check out Pop this postseason, the guy finds a strategy to adapt to each opponent almost game to game.

Harris has been making waves in recent workouts with his recovery from injury showing top-notch athleticism, but with MCW they absolutely need a floor spacer rather than an athlete in order to maintain balance (think Beal next to Wall) rather than 3 smalls who should all see the ball (think Toronto prior to the Gay deal) if they are going to develop together long term. Let’s not forget that ultimately Wiggins or even Parker should be the best scoring option on this team, and by cripling him by surrounding him with too many ball dominators or non floor spacers you are doing your team a disservice.

As others have stated there is something to be said about veteran leadership helping shaping these youngins into not only the players, but also the men they aught to be. U want another talented youthful roster like the early 2000 Clips or mid 2000 Jailblazers? Aside from the player development issues both teams couldn’t retain all the talent as their contracts came up. Can you name 1 guy besides Brand who didn’t end up being a disapointment or needing to change teams in order to reach his potential?

Sit pat, make some good pics, and be satisfied.

Or trade MCW, Thad and both your pics and get a bonefide young supertar like Anthony Davis – which I can’t realistically see happening. Maybe a trade for Rondo would make some sense, because a pass first PG would definitely help all the young players. The only teams that win titles are those with superstars who because of the max or because they conceded money when signing are thereby underpaid. Nobody wins by re-signing guys you give more burn than they deserve, who are then valued much more than their WARP would suggest, because of the name recognition they’ve attained through unjustified PT and shots.

And the last thing you want to do is have all these kids looking out for their own rather than doing what you need to be doing, putting your #3 pick in a position to succeed and develop into the franchise-changing star.

[arjundhanoaParticipant]

The only reason why you throw Thad in when making such a deal would be if you’re getting some solid value.

Thad was a top 10 pick, and has been anything but a failure. Why throw him away for nothing? He doesn’t have an albatross contract. He’s a plus contributor who has always shown a willingness to be a glue guy – always playing solid D while also shooting around 50% and only upping his usage when his team needed him to take on a greater scoring burden.

You’re gonna have to pay some players next year, as I believe the NBA has a minimum cap expenditure. Even if they don’t, it’s human nature for the GM to spend available cap space on some FA’s just to justify his existence. Do you really wanna sign a guy just because you have space, like Orlando did bringing in Lewis & thereafter Turk to pair with Dwight? It’s about having every contract being a net positive, by aquiring under valued role players/up-and-comers, or re-signing your own guys to cap friendly deals. If their perceived value is too high then you can trade them pre-extension.

I can understand trading Thad at some point in the event he’s stunting the growth of your future core-players (namely MCW, 3rd overall pick and possibly #10 pick). The issue is if you have a bunch of young players who are getting free reign, u risk the possibility of turning them into shot-first inefficient losers who put up some numbers. This builds up their market value and deludes them into thinking what kind of player they ought to be in the league.

Bottom line is you never wanna ruin your top picks, a la Bennett/Beasley/Kwame by beating down on them and giving them no run. It’s about finding that fine line and getting them to develop into guys who have confidence but can operate within the team concept. Noel is already the perfect fit with whoever you draft, as he’s the type who will make an impact without the ball, like a Tyson/DeAndre/Big Ben, allowing the guys you bring in to get enough looks on O to develop.

And if you had 5 youngins, it would absolutely be a problem when their contracts come up. OKC had 3 studs and had to trade Harden on what can only now be considered a salary dump. Not that Adams isn’t good, or that Lamb can’t play, rather Brooks has some mental block that keeps him from playing Lamb and keeps them playing Perk. He should check out Pop this postseason, the guy finds a strategy to adapt to each opponent almost game to game.

Harris has been making waves in recent workouts with his recovery from injury showing top-notch athleticism, but with MCW they absolutely need a floor spacer rather than an athlete in order to maintain balance (think Beal next to Wall) rather than 3 smalls who should all see the ball (think Toronto prior to the Gay deal) if they are going to develop together long term. Let’s not forget that ultimately Wiggins or even Parker should be the best scoring option on this team, and by cripling him by surrounding him with too many ball dominators or non floor spacers you are doing your team a disservice.

As others have stated there is something to be said about veteran leadership helping shaping these youngins into not only the players, but also the men they aught to be. U want another talented youthful roster like the early 2000 Clips or mid 2000 Jailblazers? Aside from the player development issues both teams couldn’t retain all the talent as their contracts came up. Can you name 1 guy besides Brand who didn’t end up being a disapointment or needing to change teams in order to reach his potential?

Sit pat, make some good pics, and be satisfied.

Or trade MCW, Thad and both your pics and get a bonefide young supertar like Anthony Davis – which I can’t realistically see happening. Maybe a trade for Rondo would make some sense, because a pass first PG would definitely help all the young players. The only teams that win titles are those with superstars who because of the max or because they conceded money when signing are thereby underpaid. Nobody wins by re-signing guys you give more burn than they deserve, who are then valued much more than their WARP would suggest, because of the name recognition they’ve attained through unjustified PT and shots.

And the last thing you want to do is have all these kids looking out for their own rather than doing what you need to be doing, putting your #3 pick in a position to succeed and develop into the franchise-changing star.

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