[Celtics3178Participant]

Embiid was drafted two years ago and next season  he will be in the final year of his rookie contract.  He hasn’t played competive basketball in 2 years and is going to be playing against the best players in the world every night.  I see all these posts about how the 76ers should trade noel or Okafor but I don’t understand why.  Embiid is not going to be a star any time soon and Okafor and Noel are proven NBA talents.  Can anyone explain why hes more valuable then Okafor or Noel. 

[HitsterParticipant]

 A guy who hasn’t played for two years and was drafted 3rd has low trade value at the moment. If they moved him they would get very little back compared to where they drafted him.

We need to see him play for a sustained period to gague where he is before any trade deals can even be considered. But if Noel is being moved then I hope it means Embiid is making good progress.

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 A guy who hasn’t played for two years and was drafted 3rd has low trade value at the moment. If they moved him they would get very little back compared to where they drafted him.

We need to see him play for a sustained period to gague where he is before any trade deals can even be considered. But if Noel is being moved then I hope it means Embiid is making good progress.

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

 Firstly, he was a really nice college bigman with a combination of size, skill and athleticism that probably only comes around twice a decade.

 

But you gotta keep in mind that 76ers fans are eternal optimists and would hype a pizza delivery boy if he wore a sixers jersey.

 

They do it with all their players.

 

3 months ago, Simmons was garbage in their eyes and they didnt want him. Now that it looks like they’re getting him they are starting to change their tune.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

 Firstly, he was a really nice college bigman with a combination of size, skill and athleticism that probably only comes around twice a decade.

 

But you gotta keep in mind that 76ers fans are eternal optimists and would hype a pizza delivery boy if he wore a sixers jersey.

 

They do it with all their players.

 

3 months ago, Simmons was garbage in their eyes and they didnt want him. Now that it looks like they’re getting him they are starting to change their tune.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[EndlessknightParticipant]

You should really seek help for your Sixers hate, it’s not healthy.

[EndlessknightParticipant]

You should really seek help for your Sixers hate, it’s not healthy.

[Hype Machine]

Lol, wrong way around.

Hating on the 76ers daily actually helps me keep my various other undiagnosed psychological disorders in check.

Believe it or not, I actually love the 76ers. By being the worst franchise in professional sports history, they’ve given me hours of entertianment on this forum. 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Lol, wrong way around.

Hating on the 76ers daily actually helps me keep my various other undiagnosed psychological disorders in check.

Believe it or not, I actually love the 76ers. By being the worst franchise in professional sports history, they’ve given me hours of entertianment on this forum. 

 

 

[dudo670Participant]

 A healthy Embiid takes the Sixers to the playoffs next year. He is so hyped because he’s the best big man to enter the NBA since Olajuwon. There is nothing he is bad at. He’s been playing basketball for 5 years yet his feel for the game suggests he’s been playing since he was 5. He can dominate the game. And for the analytics guys out there he averaged 19-14-2 to go along with 1.5 steals and 4.5 blocks per 40 minutes while shooting 63% from the field and almost 70% from the line. If he’s healthy I have no doubt he’ll be a hall of famer. Two years ago all the scouts had Embiid as the clear #1 prospect without the injuries. The thing about Embiid is that not only does he put up numbers but he affects the outcome of the game. He is a franchise changer. Better than Anthony Davis and Towns if healthy. I’ve said if healthy a bunch but thats the concern. I have no doubt he’ll be a stud on the court though. Because of the injury he doesn’t have much trade value right now, but when he proves he’s healthy he won’t be tradable. Speaking of Noel and Okafor, He’s better defensively than Noel and better offensively than Okafor. So yes, if he’s healthy, trade them both in a heartbeat because neither can step out to 15 feet and shoot and Simmons is on the way and we all know he can’t shoot.

 

[dudo670Participant]

 A healthy Embiid takes the Sixers to the playoffs next year. He is so hyped because he’s the best big man to enter the NBA since Olajuwon. There is nothing he is bad at. He’s been playing basketball for 5 years yet his feel for the game suggests he’s been playing since he was 5. He can dominate the game. And for the analytics guys out there he averaged 19-14-2 to go along with 1.5 steals and 4.5 blocks per 40 minutes while shooting 63% from the field and almost 70% from the line. If he’s healthy I have no doubt he’ll be a hall of famer. Two years ago all the scouts had Embiid as the clear #1 prospect without the injuries. The thing about Embiid is that not only does he put up numbers but he affects the outcome of the game. He is a franchise changer. Better than Anthony Davis and Towns if healthy. I’ve said if healthy a bunch but thats the concern. I have no doubt he’ll be a stud on the court though. Because of the injury he doesn’t have much trade value right now, but when he proves he’s healthy he won’t be tradable. Speaking of Noel and Okafor, He’s better defensively than Noel and better offensively than Okafor. So yes, if he’s healthy, trade them both in a heartbeat because neither can step out to 15 feet and shoot and Simmons is on the way and we all know he can’t shoot.

 

[nath09Participant]

 Best bigman to enter NBA since Olajuwon? He may well be, and this site is all about opinion but David Robinson, Shaq and Tim Duncan want to have a word with you.

[nath09Participant]

 Best bigman to enter NBA since Olajuwon? He may well be, and this site is all about opinion but David Robinson, Shaq and Tim Duncan want to have a word with you.

[dudo670Participant]

But I think all around, he is. There’s a reason why Duncan is called the big fundamental. He’s not all that athletic. He’s supremely skilled. Most importantly he’s a winner. I’d honestly argue Kevin Garnett is the most talented PF of this generation, but when you factor in the rings Duncan takes the cake for best overall PF. Shaq is one of the most physically dominant players ever but its not like he was this supremely skilled player, he’s obviously one of the 10 or 20 greatest players ever but as a prospect you had to wonder if his physical dominance would carry over exactly how it did. And David Robinson coming out of college I would in some ways argue was the closest to Olajuwon in terms of all around game but I still think that Embiid’s combination of athleticism and skill at the college level was the best since Hakeem. Like you said, its all about opinion and its not like the three guys you named (and you could’ve named one or two others) were way worse prospects, they were all franchise changing players.

[dbeal21Participant]

If your talking best big to enter the league recently and you aren’t saying big KAT (Karl-Anthony Towns look him up) than you haven’t watched this kid play. He’s already being talked about being better than Anthony Davis RIGHT NOW. All I’m saying is if Embiid and Towns are in the same draft and I have the number one pick I’m drafting KAT, then im trading up for picks 2 3 4 and 5 and drafting supporting role players for KAT all cuz I feel like it and because you have upset me. Good day.

[dudo670Participant]

 Coming out of college no one was comparing Towns to historically great prospects. Even now, I would still take Embiid, but I am saying coming out of college, and looking at things before the draft, that you could very well argue Embiid was the best all around prospect since Olajuwon. A healthy Embiid is better than Karl Towns. You may take Towns 1, but like I said minus the injury, just looking at the two players abilities, I don’t think there is a GM in basketball who would pass up Embiid.

[dudo670Participant]

 Coming out of college no one was comparing Towns to historically great prospects. Even now, I would still take Embiid, but I am saying coming out of college, and looking at things before the draft, that you could very well argue Embiid was the best all around prospect since Olajuwon. A healthy Embiid is better than Karl Towns. You may take Towns 1, but like I said minus the injury, just looking at the two players abilities, I don’t think there is a GM in basketball who would pass up Embiid.

[Al PerezParticipant]

 nobody on this site or anywhere had KAT as this sure fire player…I remember I sent out a tweet in the fall of his freshman year saying that he’s way better than Okafor and I was crucified….Towns/Okafor was a debate right up until the very end…..Calipari didn’t let KAT show all of his skills until tournament time…..so I’d have to agree that BEFORE each draft that Embiid was rated as a higher prospect coming into the league than KAT….but KAT has changed that opinion after a historically great freshman year….but let’s see what Embiid can do for a full healthy year…..id still say Shaq was the most impressive big man prospect I’ve ever seen…he was so skinny !!!! What happened!!! 

[Al PerezParticipant]

 nobody on this site or anywhere had KAT as this sure fire player…I remember I sent out a tweet in the fall of his freshman year saying that he’s way better than Okafor and I was crucified….Towns/Okafor was a debate right up until the very end…..Calipari didn’t let KAT show all of his skills until tournament time…..so I’d have to agree that BEFORE each draft that Embiid was rated as a higher prospect coming into the league than KAT….but KAT has changed that opinion after a historically great freshman year….but let’s see what Embiid can do for a full healthy year…..id still say Shaq was the most impressive big man prospect I’ve ever seen…he was so skinny !!!! What happened!!! 

[dbeal21Participant]

If your talking best big to enter the league recently and you aren’t saying big KAT (Karl-Anthony Towns look him up) than you haven’t watched this kid play. He’s already being talked about being better than Anthony Davis RIGHT NOW. All I’m saying is if Embiid and Towns are in the same draft and I have the number one pick I’m drafting KAT, then im trading up for picks 2 3 4 and 5 and drafting supporting role players for KAT all cuz I feel like it and because you have upset me. Good day.

[dudo670Participant]

But I think all around, he is. There’s a reason why Duncan is called the big fundamental. He’s not all that athletic. He’s supremely skilled. Most importantly he’s a winner. I’d honestly argue Kevin Garnett is the most talented PF of this generation, but when you factor in the rings Duncan takes the cake for best overall PF. Shaq is one of the most physically dominant players ever but its not like he was this supremely skilled player, he’s obviously one of the 10 or 20 greatest players ever but as a prospect you had to wonder if his physical dominance would carry over exactly how it did. And David Robinson coming out of college I would in some ways argue was the closest to Olajuwon in terms of all around game but I still think that Embiid’s combination of athleticism and skill at the college level was the best since Hakeem. Like you said, its all about opinion and its not like the three guys you named (and you could’ve named one or two others) were way worse prospects, they were all franchise changing players.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

 yep and Ewing came out the next year after Olajuwon and was widely considered the better prospect too.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

 yep and Ewing came out the next year after Olajuwon and was widely considered the better prospect too.

[holefillers1Participant]

 He is a two way player at 7’2 300 lbs

[holefillers1Participant]

 He is a two way player at 7’2 300 lbs

[holefillers1Participant]

 He plays one year of college ball then gets drafted number three overall.  Then he disappears for two years with limited sightings only to reappear like two inches taller and forty pounds heavier. He is the Yeti or Keyser Soze,

[holefillers1Participant]

 He plays one year of college ball then gets drafted number three overall.  Then he disappears for two years with limited sightings only to reappear like two inches taller and forty pounds heavier. He is the Yeti or Keyser Soze,

[Mr. 19134Participant]

Just go watch his draft workout video if you cant understand why after then i dunno what to say.  Hes 7’2 wit a 7’6" wingspan who combines the footwork of a soccer player with a shooting touch and defensive tenacity.

 

Basically from a physical standpoint hes a Shaq tier prospect.  Hes taller, longer and stronger then Towns and Davis with a very similar skill set.

 

 

[Mr. 19134Participant]

Just go watch his draft workout video if you cant understand why after then i dunno what to say.  Hes 7’2 wit a 7’6" wingspan who combines the footwork of a soccer player with a shooting touch and defensive tenacity.

 

Basically from a physical standpoint hes a Shaq tier prospect.  Hes taller, longer and stronger then Towns and Davis with a very similar skill set.

 

 

[UncledrewParticipant]

Embidd is 7’1 275 and when healthy moves like a guard. He’s capable of anchoring a defense the way Hassan Whiteside does while having more offensive potential than Demarcus Cousins. In other words he could average 28 points 15 rebounds and 4 blocks in his prime. His coordination as a 19 year old college player at Kansas with only 3 years of playing experience was phenomenal especially for someone with his size and mobility. To go along with a nice jumpshot and elite athleticism yes if healthy he’s potentially a bigger Olajuwon.

[UncledrewParticipant]

Embidd is 7’1 275 and when healthy moves like a guard. He’s capable of anchoring a defense the way Hassan Whiteside does while having more offensive potential than Demarcus Cousins. In other words he could average 28 points 15 rebounds and 4 blocks in his prime. His coordination as a 19 year old college player at Kansas with only 3 years of playing experience was phenomenal especially for someone with his size and mobility. To go along with a nice jumpshot and elite athleticism yes if healthy he’s potentially a bigger Olajuwon.

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 I seen him in LA – he TOWERS over Blake Griffin, Noel & Dendre Jordan…….. He’s got the height & Length of Rudy Gobert……… but he’s stronger & more muscular…….

And he’s freakishly atheltic & explosive but fliud & smooth w/ Either hand….. beautiful touch around the rim & he can shoot the 3……… Just the way he moves on the court – everything seems so Natural & easy for him……

He’s taking on mythical proportions b/c he has not played but he’s healthy accoding to Sixers coach Brett Brown……….

W/ Simmons & Embiid the Sixers have a foundation that could be Dominant in a few years………. 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 I seen him in LA – he TOWERS over Blake Griffin, Noel & Dendre Jordan…….. He’s got the height & Length of Rudy Gobert……… but he’s stronger & more muscular…….

And he’s freakishly atheltic & explosive but fliud & smooth w/ Either hand….. beautiful touch around the rim & he can shoot the 3……… Just the way he moves on the court – everything seems so Natural & easy for him……

He’s taking on mythical proportions b/c he has not played but he’s healthy accoding to Sixers coach Brett Brown……….

W/ Simmons & Embiid the Sixers have a foundation that could be Dominant in a few years………. 

 

 

 

[theballerwayParticipant]

It did look like a hell  of a prospect during his college tenure  and had some great workouts until he got inhjured. The fact that hes been injured ever since and has grown so much in weight I really wonder how athletic he still is. I just think his career could got both ways – He could be Oden or He could blossom. Im rooting for him but the amount of pressure he is under is immense already, without Okafor to help ease the transition by limiting his minutes and letting him get his feet wet against back ups might be their best move imo.

Obviously the 767ers staff see him and know more than us fans so its kinda encouraging but remember he hasnt even played a single game yet alone an 82 game season. Patience is required here.

[theballerwayParticipant]

It did look like a hell  of a prospect during his college tenure  and had some great workouts until he got inhjured. The fact that hes been injured ever since and has grown so much in weight I really wonder how athletic he still is. I just think his career could got both ways – He could be Oden or He could blossom. Im rooting for him but the amount of pressure he is under is immense already, without Okafor to help ease the transition by limiting his minutes and letting him get his feet wet against back ups might be their best move imo.

Obviously the 767ers staff see him and know more than us fans so its kinda encouraging but remember he hasnt even played a single game yet alone an 82 game season. Patience is required here.

[natevalParticipant]

 I think Embiid is a nice prospect but lets calm down a little. The way he’s hyped up here anything less then MVP will be disappointing. The guy hasn’t even played 1 minute in the NBA yet. Who knows how that injury will affect him. With the way he’s hyped up here by Philly fans Embiid better be ROY, MVP and NBA all first team this season

Can any Philly fans give me projections on what they expect Embiid stats to be this season? 

Philly fans keep saying he’s the best prospect to enter the leagues since Hakeem. Hakeem’s rookie season he averaged 

35.5 MPG 20.6 PPG 2.7 BLK 1.2 STL 11.9 TRB 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dudo670Participant]

 He won’t play a ton because they will ease him in to make sure the foot is OK. I would expect him to play around 20 minutes to start and work his way up to 30 or so by the end, maybe averaging around 25 minutes a game. I think he’ll average around 13-15 a game and 7 or 8 rebounds, a block or two. Most importantly, when he is on the court I think he impacts the game in terms of wins and losses and makes the other team gameplan around him. If he was fully healthy and played 35 minutes a game like Hakeem, I think he could very well average 20-10.

[dudo670Participant]

 He won’t play a ton because they will ease him in to make sure the foot is OK. I would expect him to play around 20 minutes to start and work his way up to 30 or so by the end, maybe averaging around 25 minutes a game. I think he’ll average around 13-15 a game and 7 or 8 rebounds, a block or two. Most importantly, when he is on the court I think he impacts the game in terms of wins and losses and makes the other team gameplan around him. If he was fully healthy and played 35 minutes a game like Hakeem, I think he could very well average 20-10.

[natevalParticipant]

 So a guy coming out of college who was hurt, missed two full sesason due to injury and according to you will maybe average 25 min a game is best big man to come out of college since 1984? I’m going to have to say you must be wearing your Sixers colored glasses. 

I like Embiid as a prospect but you 76ers fans are going to make it tough for Embiid to live up to the hype!  I guess Sixers fans would agree that anything lesss then a perennial allstar and HOF career for Embiid would be considered underwhelming? Hopefully he can handle the huge pressure and live up to the hype.

 

 

[natevalParticipant]

 So a guy coming out of college who was hurt, missed two full sesason due to injury and according to you will maybe average 25 min a game is best big man to come out of college since 1984? I’m going to have to say you must be wearing your Sixers colored glasses. 

I like Embiid as a prospect but you 76ers fans are going to make it tough for Embiid to live up to the hype!  I guess Sixers fans would agree that anything lesss then a perennial allstar and HOF career for Embiid would be considered underwhelming? Hopefully he can handle the huge pressure and live up to the hype.

 

 

[dudo670Participant]

 You completely missed my point. I understand injuries are a part of the game and while they are saying Embiid should have a long healthy career, you really don’t know so I think the Sixers are going to and should take the safe approach. Saying he’s the best big since Olajuwon is not talking about his injuries, in the same way when people mention Bill Walton as one of the all time great big men, they are not talking about his injury ridden career. In terms of ability, there is nothing Embiid can’t do. He’s been playing basketball for five years but looks like he’s been playing for 20. If he’s healthy, I have no doubt what he is. If healthy and no injury concerns, he would’ve played 35 minutes a game as a rookie and tore the league up. I have no doubt when healthy he’ll prove people like you wrong.

[dudo670Participant]

 You completely missed my point. I understand injuries are a part of the game and while they are saying Embiid should have a long healthy career, you really don’t know so I think the Sixers are going to and should take the safe approach. Saying he’s the best big since Olajuwon is not talking about his injuries, in the same way when people mention Bill Walton as one of the all time great big men, they are not talking about his injury ridden career. In terms of ability, there is nothing Embiid can’t do. He’s been playing basketball for five years but looks like he’s been playing for 20. If he’s healthy, I have no doubt what he is. If healthy and no injury concerns, he would’ve played 35 minutes a game as a rookie and tore the league up. I have no doubt when healthy he’ll prove people like you wrong.

[natevalParticipant]

 Unfortunately Greg Oden and Brandon Roy were on there way to HOF careers but it didn’t happen due to injuries. You know what they say the best ability a player can have is availability.

According to Sixers fans Simmions, Okafor and Embiid are all time greats. If this is the case I would expect at the minimum a playoff apprence from them this season. 

 

 

[natevalParticipant]

 Unfortunately Greg Oden and Brandon Roy were on there way to HOF careers but it didn’t happen due to injuries. You know what they say the best ability a player can have is availability.

According to Sixers fans Simmions, Okafor and Embiid are all time greats. If this is the case I would expect at the minimum a playoff apprence from them this season. 

 

 

[dudo670Participant]

 I’m not a big Okafor guy and I think he’s a lot like Elton Brand – he’ll get you 20-10 but on 40 win teams. I think Simmons is overrated too and is a complementary player. So no, I don’t think all these guys are amazing. And obviously both Greg Oden and Brandon Roy had careers derailed by injuries (although no one knows if Oden was even good), give me Embiid over any big since Olajuwon. Robinson, Shaq, and Duncan were all great and if you take them I’m not going to say you’re wrong, I’m just saying that’s my opinion. But if you couldn’t see Embiid’s talent at Kansas I’m not sure what you were watching. 

[dudo670Participant]

 I’m not a big Okafor guy and I think he’s a lot like Elton Brand – he’ll get you 20-10 but on 40 win teams. I think Simmons is overrated too and is a complementary player. So no, I don’t think all these guys are amazing. And obviously both Greg Oden and Brandon Roy had careers derailed by injuries (although no one knows if Oden was even good), give me Embiid over any big since Olajuwon. Robinson, Shaq, and Duncan were all great and if you take them I’m not going to say you’re wrong, I’m just saying that’s my opinion. But if you couldn’t see Embiid’s talent at Kansas I’m not sure what you were watching. 

[natevalParticipant]

 I think Embiid is a nice prospect but lets calm down a little. The way he’s hyped up here anything less then MVP will be disappointing. The guy hasn’t even played 1 minute in the NBA yet. Who knows how that injury will affect him. With the way he’s hyped up here by Philly fans Embiid better be ROY, MVP and NBA all first team this season

Can any Philly fans give me projections on what they expect Embiid stats to be this season? 

Philly fans keep saying he’s the best prospect to enter the leagues since Hakeem. Hakeem’s rookie season he averaged 

35.5 MPG 20.6 PPG 2.7 BLK 1.2 STL 11.9 TRB 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[markfitz14Participant]

 New GM

I think they are looking at fit becuase Simmons is a drive to the basket player. He needs the lane open. So trading both would not be to bad a move if they could get guys who can shoot 3’s. A center who can go out to the 3pt line would be his best fit. 

They prbly end up keeping one or the other though.

 

 

[markfitz14Participant]

 New GM

I think they are looking at fit becuase Simmons is a drive to the basket player. He needs the lane open. So trading both would not be to bad a move if they could get guys who can shoot 3’s. A center who can go out to the 3pt line would be his best fit. 

They prbly end up keeping one or the other though.

 

 

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Move like a guard again. He is damaged goods no doubt.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Move like a guard again. He is damaged goods no doubt.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

If it wasn’t for his injuries, Embiid would be on his way to becoming one of the bestbig men of this generation (up there with Towns and Anthony Davis). Same thing could be said about Greg Oden but injuries derailed his career. I don’t think Embiid will ever reach his ceiling, and at this point is more of a backup until he proves otherwise.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

If it wasn’t for his injuries, Embiid would be on his way to becoming one of the bestbig men of this generation (up there with Towns and Anthony Davis). Same thing could be said about Greg Oden but injuries derailed his career. I don’t think Embiid will ever reach his ceiling, and at this point is more of a backup until he proves otherwise.

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