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  • #65410
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    The Goat
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    As usual, it seems there are a few people the public believe are in the crosshairs of GMs at the moment, but who do you think will actually have to move house in a few weeks?

    Rudy Gay

    Andrew Bogut

    Jahlil Okafor

    Shabazz Mohammed

    Monta Ellis

    Wilson Chandler

    Nerlens Noel

    Nikola Mirotic

    Otto Porter Jnr

    Mario Hezonja

    Tyson Chandler

    Brandon Knight

    Others?

     

     

     

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  • #1089678
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    saladdays
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     possibly greg monroe?

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    • #1089707
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      machu46
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      I understand why his name continues to come up, but it seems that other teams just don’t value him very much and he’s been great this season for the Bucks; one of the big reasons they’re in the thick of the playoff race (outside of obviously Giannis).  Unless the Bucks get a solid asset in return, there’s really no reason for them to move him.

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  • #1089679
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    Arc12345
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    I want Kenneth Faried out of Denver. He could really help a team and he isn’t a back up power forward or center.

    It would also help my fantasy team LOL.

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    • #1089685
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      high floor
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      I think NOLA is one of the few teams that could accomodate the Manimal. Not sure who they would give up (3 team deal perhaps??) But pairing Faried with another big that can protect the paint & shoot from the perimeter is essential for him. I’d like to see Faried in a Pelicans jersey before the deadline.  

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    • #1089741
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       With how disappointing the Noah experiment is in NY, I think Faried to the Knicks is a great fit. Porzingis is the ideal pairing to go with him.

      I don’t know if they can really give anything valuable in return to the Nuggets though..

       

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  • #1089683
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     List looks fairly good, if Dallas do decide to chuck in this season then Bogut to a contender will get them some sort of asset back. Likewise Tyson Chandler at Phoenix on a very cap friendly deal, he may be in his 36th season now but is under contract until 2019 and for a top team having a guy like him to play defence and rebound is ideal, he could net the Suns a nice package.

    Denver I have often wondered if they might look to start over around their younger core, Gallinari has a player option next summer he’ll likely opt out of so could be shipped out if he indicates he wants to move on or Denver don’t want to pay what he may be after.

    Greg Monroe will be gone from Bucks next summer when I assume he’ll opt out, so if they could get him to a team he’d be a regular on then deal is good for all parties.

    Lou Williams has been on a hot run for the Lakers so if their pick goes to Philly being echoed by Hinkie saying "Believe in the Process" they might cash in on Lou to get assets or younger pieces back.

     

     

     

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    • #1089691
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       I’ve heard that Luke Walton believes that what’s happening in the Laker locker room is special and that he doesn’t want to break it up. But if I’m Mitch Kupcheck, Lou Williams is a huge trade chip this year. I don’t see how else they leverage a young center. But Lou has been a leader, perhaps irreplaceably so.

      As far as the Rudy Gay is concerned, I have all the faith in the world that the Kings can manage to bungle things enough so that Rudy Gay walks and in free agency, like he promised, and the Kings end up with nothing. 

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  • #1089687
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     Thats just me personally, I want Jah gone over Nerlens who been playing well before our $hitty coach benched him.

    Second best defender on our squad can’t get minutes but a guy that literally can’t play any Defense or Rebound is getting minutes.

     

    Jah for Aminu, Layman, and a pick.

     

     

     

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    • #1089701
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      can you please explain your basis as to why you continue to call Brett trash?? I’ve watched almost every sixers game that he has coached and have a completely different opinion.By the way noel just came back from surgery and has only been active for three games soooooo to say he benched him is ummmmm ignorant. Also, he has to try out the combination of oak and embeast to see if they work out before you just trade him and never know. At the end of the day you have to see what combination works best before you just trade one of them. But please tell me your observations….

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      • #1089702
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         Brett Brown’s coaching is suspect on many aspects this year, mainly rotation management and substitutions, with Stauskas playing way too more and always in a lineup that you can predict is going to suffer, things like Saric at the 3 and Okafor pretty much being so bad that I feel close games go away a lot because of him. That plus also suspect inbound schemes that are causing 5 seconds calls, turnovers or bad circulation very often.

        Apart from that I would agree with you there is also a lot to like, with fluidity in the offense right now especially when Sergios is on the floor and a good ball movement, plus often very interesting defense and if Okafor and Stauskas were not playing I think this team’s defense would be elite, and not just because of Embiid and Covington but because of Brett’s coaching on that end.

         

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      • #1089723
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         is a horrible coach. He has one of the best rookies of the past 20 years and his players don’t even look for said big man, they take horrible 3s with 20 seconds on the shot clock which is a product of Brett’s want to have a run and gun offense, and they play bad lineups like trying to experiment Embiid and Okafor or just trying to play Okafor at all as well as playing TJ McConnel. With a good coach they’d be 3 wins better right now easily.

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        • #1089729
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          completely.  

          What system do the Sixers run right now?  He won’t play Nerlens becaues he wants more balance…but he also wants to play Jah and Embiid together which is totally unbalanced.

          I admit I wanted to see Jah and Embiid together, but I should’ve caveated that with a GOOD COACH I’d like to see them play together.  You know, then maybe Covington woudln’t go 5 seconds into a possession and jack a 3 with the two of them there.  If you watched Sixers-Lakers on ESPN, Jeff Van Gundy said "let me introduce these guys to Joel EMbiid" on the floor.  You know what, when they played on TNT vs the Timberwolves, Reggie Miller said the exact same thing.  Van Gundy even tried to defend Brett Brown (which really just made Brown look ten times worse), when he said "its not even a play that needs to be called, the players have to just know to get it to Embiid" 

          Brown’s playcalling and substitutions have been terrible.  Anytime Stauskas and McConnell come in the game together I cringe.  For him to want to play Spurs like defense and run and gun like the Warriors, I’m sorry, it doesn’t work.  I’ll be honest when they play small ball it is nice.  But Small Ball is iwth Sergio TJ Stauskas Thompson and RoCo out there, and sorry, thats horrific defense, oh and also, the Coach is ignoring his three prized top 5 draft picks.

          Brett Brown fell in love with Stauskas and would’ve taken him with the Saric pick but fortunately the even worse Kings took Stauskas.  That love is obvious to me, Saric is talented enoguh that you could run your offense through him, but Brown insists on playing "new style NBA like the Warriors" with his personnel, and his guards are the worst in the NBA!

          You are not the Warriors.  You need to feed the big man every possession and slow the game down and play tight half court defense.  Use YOUR ROSTER to its strengths, don’t try to fit a circle in a square hole.

          A good coach knows this.  Lastly, he was mic’d up, and he was not inspiring or commanding of respect at all.  Oh yeah, they have significant bigs on their roster.  It would be nice if they had a big-man coach on their staff, just sayin.

           

           

           

           

           

           

            

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      • #1089730
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        this is verbatim Sixers media info.  Everyone reads the news.  You have to pry a little deeper and really watch the games.

        A backcourt pass to Embiid to inbound the ball when you are up 1 with 2.4 seconds to go is NOT good coaching.

        Noel looked really good out there the first game he was back.  Thats substitutions.  He has to figure out how to get him minutes, thats his job.  Even if he was injured, if Noel gets healthy then what will he do.  Does Brown even have a plan?  

        "Oak and Embeast" combo doesn’t work iwthout good coaching.  Your young players need to understand spacing and movement.  Your big men especially.  Maybe he could coach them that, instead of preaching ball movement and quick shots from the guards.

        For the rest, read my post below and what the others have said.

        The only thing I disagree with below is that Sergio is a good PG.  Sergio is very lazy with the ball at times, apparently even in his second stint in the NBA he doesn’t understand the speed and athleticism of the NBA.  Sergio also dribbles too much.  John Wooden said the job of the PG is to know when to get your guys touches, well your big men are your team, so if Sergio was well coached, he’d know to set up and offense to use the mismatch, you know, maybe break the play and tell Embiid to get his butt in the paint when 6’8” Patrick Patterson is guarding him and destroy him in the paint.  Could you imagine Shaq or Hakeem being guarded by someone 6’8” and Stauskas and McConnell overlook him and take a 3?  LOL

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

          

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    • #1089734
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      tblazer_NZ
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       Portland says yes. Our defensive is already the worst.

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  • #1089692
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    XYRYX
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     I think Kanter is also one of the guys on this list. Personally I like him and still don’t know why he isn’t getting more then 20 mins despite his shortcomings on the defensive end. Many believe a Kanter for Gay trade is going down until the deadline but I’m not sure Sacto is into this. If Presti decides to move one of the stache bros, I would Presti to flip Enes somehow into CJ Miles and Wilson Chandler who now plays for years in Denver and I think he could be a Robert Horry type of player for the Thunder and can do a little bit of everything at the forward spots. Maybe Anthony Morrow is out of OKC too but not unless Cam Payne is back and Dipo ready with his wrist. 

    On a side note I would really like to know if any star player like Wall might be on this list too…

    1000 yeah!!!

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    • #1089694
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      Kanters trade clause stings us for between 7-12 million for nothing(which is essentially another player we could have/keep)…

      The only Rudy gay trade that seems to be out there is the Cameron payne,Singler and our trade exception for Rudy straight trade.. 

      I’m not sure if we should fully do the trade either, there maybe a couple of other trades I would pursue first before I settled on Rudy gay who could bail in the offseason for nothing.

       

       

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  • #1089695
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     Rudy Gay is gone by the deadline where and who to is still up in the air as some current middle of the pack team or a team on the cusp of the playoffs may take a flier on him.

    Andrew Bogut-Probably traded once Cuban realizes they are out of the playoffs.

    Okafor- Probably Kept it will be Noel on the move.

    Shabazz- I hope they trade him where to is the question.

    Monta ellis-there is not really a market for him.

    Chandler or Gallonari being moved all depends on if Denver being in the playoffs or not I see Danillo being moved first though as he can opt out vs Chandler who is locked into a deal for a few more years.

    Nerlens Noel should be moved just needs to play and keep his mouth shut so they will play him, as he is lowering his value every time he says something stupid.

    Nikola Mirotic-could be traded what and who for though is dependent on their need.

    Otto Porter-They should re up him but I think they may trade him due to overspending on average players and giving Beal a far to costly contract…

    Mario H-traded as he isn’t being used,what for and where to depends..Apparently they want a scorer..

    Tyson Chandler makes sense to trade as he doesn’t exactly fit the Suns timeline..

    Brandon Knight or Eric Bledsoe it makes sense to trade the one you aren’t going to keep of the two. Knight has a better Injury history than Bledsoe and could fill a 6th man role nicely once he gets used to it..That way you can move some of that cap off the books and tank a bit for a higher pick..

    Teams that may have a player or two eventually come up might be the Bulls, Buck,Pistons,Pacers and Sacramento all have a couple of playrers I could seeing being moved if things keeping going this way some for cap reasons and others due to trying to fix the log jams/needs.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1089703
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      I don’t think Noel out excludes an Okafor trade. I think that with Ilyasova and Saric at the 4, the Okafor-Embiid lineup is super suspect. I doubt it comes from Brett Brown directly, otherwise he would have tried it sooner or stopped trying it yesterday with Noel out of the equation again. There is a Front Office decision there which either is 1)showcase Okafor ; 2) play Okafor at the 4 to lose win% and tank harder.

      Player development does not make sense with Dario Saric already being a better long term piece than Okafor for the team and how it can also negatively impact Joel Embiid.

      I also tend to think Ilyasova might be moved as he is showcased a lot, and still is with this new Okafor at the 4 thing, with Saric forced to try to play 3. Ilyasova should be a very tempting stretch 4 option for the bench of playoffs teams that don’t have one and need one. And given is contract situation and the previous trade 76ers got him, he probably is worth only a high second rounder.

       

       

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  • #1089710
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    Memphis Madness
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     Rudy Gay for NOTHING, eh?

    Sounds like a WIN-WIN TRADE!

     

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  • #1089711
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    Memphis Madness
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    Who would need Okafor?

    Bucks?

    Greg Monroe and some pieces for Okafor?

    Like, a solid draft pick this season…  #tackofall

    Brokeafor, Ant Man, and Jabroni Parker would be a heck of a front line!

    Greg Monroe can 6th man all day in Philly!

    Ok, Philly trades Okafor, Sergio Rodriguez, Jerryd Bayless, Nik Stauskas, cash, and 2 future second round picks for Greg Monroe, Tony Snell, Steve Novak, Jason Terry, Malcolm Brogdon, 13, 43, and a future 2nd round pick.

    Philly gets a pretty good pick at 13 (or wherever the Bucks will pick this year) plus an extra second round pick at 43, a guy in Monroe who can basically give you what Okafor gives you, a 3 point stretch four sniper in Novak, Jason Terry’s career stat sheet, and a couple of youngsters for 2 guard depth in Snell and Brogdon.

    But, I mean, the key for Philly is building around the Embiid/Ben Simmons core.  With Noel, Saric, and future assets forming the base of that core — basically whatever they add this season in the draft…

    Bucks lose some assets but, again, they get that big 3 front line of Jabari, Gianni, and Jahlil with John Henson off the bench.  What you COULD do is change the spelling of Giannis to Johnny and go with the 4J Front Line.

    Delly, Stauskas, and Middleton form a marginal (at best NBA backcourt), OR the Bucks go FULL GIANNIS with him at point guard, Kris in the Middleton at the 2, Jabari at the 3, Henson/Thonathon at the 4, and Okafor at center.

    If I am Philly, I draft Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, and Tacko Fall.

    Then you have Ben Simmons, Embiid, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, Nerlens Noel, Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and Tacko Fall as the young core rotation.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

      

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  • #1089715
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     Greg Monroe has a $17 million player option for next season which the wisdom was he would opt out of but if his market value falls then he might take the money and opt in. Philly could keep Ersan and pay him less for next season if they wanted to.

    I don’t see Okafor as a natural fit for Bucks as they want more 3 point shooter type players, Ersan again would be a good fit with them.

    Philly if they want to showcase Okafor would surely play him away from Embiid as the Embeast is just overshadowing him completely at the moment. Another great game from Embiid last night.

    With Blake Griffin being out, I could see Clippers calling Philly about Noel or particularly Ersan in the next week or so but Clippers have give away a couple of first rounders already for 2017 and 2019 so don’t have a load of assets outside of key players.

     

     

     

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    • #1089720
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      Monroe has a $17.9mill option. His value is quite low, I think he would take that option. He actually wanted to go to Milwaukee and the future is bright there. He is a good teammate and I don’t think he complains about coming off the bench

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  • #1089719
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     I posted somewhere else that I think Gary Harris might also get moved because Jamal Murray is going to be their 2 going forward, and they still have Barton, Chandler, Gallinari and Beasley all on the wing. I think Okafor could play with Jokic, so something along the lines of Okafor for Harris? Denver could be a destination for Jah. 

     

     

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  • #1089721
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    Stanley Johnson has been in the doghouse and his playing time and performance has not been good this season. I doubt he gets moved but a Mario Hezjona for Stanley Johnson could be interesting…

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    • #1112834
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       Pistons shoud of pulled the deal on trading Stanley Johnson for Mario Hezonja.  Hezonja has been playing well of late

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      A 6-foot-8 positionless ball-handler who can slash, defend, knock down triples or pull-up jumpers as well as make timely passes, all at the age of 23, is an archetype every team covets.

       

      Over the past 31 games, that’s precisely who the once-maligned Mario Hezonja has metamorphosed into.

       

      In that span, the Orlando Magic swingman has averaged 13.0 points, 4.3 rebounds, 1.4 assists, 1.4 steals and 1.6 three-pointers while slashing healthy 47.7/37.4/81.1 shooting splits.

       

      Only 17 players (with at least 10 games played) can match Hezonja’s nightly outputs in points, boards, dimes, takeaways and threes over that stretch; 11 of them were All-Stars this season, while the other six are Chris PaulBen SimmonsOtto PorterJrue HolidayKentavious Caldwell-Pope and Kris Dunn.

       

       

       

       

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  • #1089728
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     I just saw Capela is out 4-6 weeks, maybe Houston go for Noel? They have shooting to offer, and the Sixers need plenty. 

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  • #1089739
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    I could see the Rockets taking a look at Noel or even Saric as both would do well in a D’Antoni system.

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    • #1089794
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      binet
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       Saric is a rookie and rather inconsistent. They could/should take the cheaper and better short term Ilyasova. Especially with Motiejunas out now.

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  • #1089749
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     If I am Philly and I wanted to trade Nerlens Noel, I would take Larry Nance, Jr., Huertas (point guard depth and salary), Zubac (salary), the 39th pick, and a future first rounder for Nerlens Noel, cash, and a future 2nd round pick.

    In my opinion, Nance Jr. would be a good fit with a high octane Sixers squad featuring Embiid, Ben Simmons, and their upcoming draft picks.

     

     

     

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    • #1089755
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      No way LA gives up even half that for Noel.

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    • #1089793
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      binet
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       As little is Nerlens value, the sixers should not even consider that trade. Huertas is useless, being pretty much in the same league as Sergio Rodriguez but not yet acclimated to the team and imo a worse player, cause already fully (re)acclimated to the NBA. Rodriguez is clearly above Rubio and Calderon in Spain national team, and from what I have seen so far, I think that he clearly is not a terrible back up PG. Sixers need someone above him though, and that’s not Huertas.

      Larry Nance is incredibly useless for them, given they already have Ersan and Saric at the 4 that are arguably better players and better fits alongside Embiid.

      That trade is also not good for the Lakers, who probably can just wait and sign him this offseason, once the Mozgov experiment is at least tried during a full year. You don’t pay Mozgov that kind of money without at least giving him a full year to prove himself, particularly for someone like Nerlens who now has a bad character reputation.

      Both teams would never do that trade imo.

       

       

       

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  • #1089783
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    reports—-

    There are a couple of teams to watch on the Noel front, the biggest being the Toronto Raptors. It is unlikely that the Raptors mess with their team chemistry in moving a core player, but if the 76ers want some of the Raptors’ young players or non-core parts, Toronto would have interest in Noel, according to sources close to the situation. It’s also believed the Portland Trail Blazers have eyes on Noel, but they may be unwilling to give up much in a deal.

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    It’s also believed the Portland Trail Blazers have eyes on Noel, but they may be unwilling to give up much in a deal.

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    While moving Allen is not necessarily something the team wants to do, according to sources, they understand his ending contract status makes him desirable in a trade and that he could return something of value to the Grizz.

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  • #1089786
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    Kings forward Rudy Gay continues to be the name most NBA insiders feel will be moved. Gay is battling some injuries, but it’s believed he’ll be moved before the trade deadline. Unfortunately for the Kings, he’s not expected to return a ton so Sacramento may hold on to him and his scoring until February.

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    Speaking of the Kings, there is a growing rift brewing between Arron Afflalo and the coaching staff. He is also growing unhappy with his role in Sacramento, and there is a belief he has joined a few other Kings players in asking for a trade. Afflalo became trade eligible on December 15, so it’s a situation to watch.

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    Washington, New Orleans among teams reached out to Denver to gauge availability of Will Barton, league sources tell ESPN.

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  • #1090057
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    A few reports about Bogut being traded. Two teams interested are Houston and Toronto.

    Dallas are hoping for a late first rounder for him, but would look at an early 2nd round pick for him

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  • #1090058
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    Bogut with his championship winning experience and defensive ability would be a no brainer pick up for any contender even if it is a half season rental. Giving up a late first rounder for a potentially longer play off run is a no brainer IMO. Money saved on draft pick can then be used to sign a veteran.

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    • #1090065
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       Bogut to Boston seems like a good match. Boston owns both the Clips 2019 1st round and 2019 Mephis 1st round pick, they could give up one or the other.

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  • #1090073
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     Do Boston need to go into "win now" mode by giving up assets for a Bogut rental I wonder. But if they could extend him, he’d be an excellent addition for them so a +1 from me.

    My other fun Bogut idea is he goes back to the Bucks if Monroe moves on. He has his title so could bring his experience back to the Bucks and offer them leadership and a defensive anchor around the young core. Plus it would be a homecoming.

     

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