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  • #23034
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    The Splash Doc
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    They need these 2 players and then they can be mentioned with the Lakers and Celtics

    Center- Earl Barron he is way better than Joel Anthony he is 2 maybe 3 inches taller defends way better rebounds with so much aggression he can be the Perkins for them in my eyes.

    Point Guard- Jerryd Bayless he is not a pure point we know this but with LeHype and Wade you dont him to be he just has to knock down open shots push the ball and defend. He is perfect to match up with Rondo-Rose-Westbrook-Shannon Brown-Paul all of them.

    if not Bayless than someone Rodney Stuckey.

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  • #431767
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    fastdan
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    They don’t need another ball dominate guard like Stuckey or Bayless, they need a pg who an shoot

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  • #431783
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    fastdan
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    They don’t need another ball dominate guard like Stuckey or Bayless, they need a pg who an shoot

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  • #431769
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    doubledribbler
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    I don’t know much about Barron, but I do know he played with them last year. Any idea why he is not back if he is way better than Anthony? Just curious.

    As far as Bayless goes, what do they have to give up for a young player? Not sure anyone is wanting Z or Jerry Stackhouse.

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  • #431785
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    doubledribbler
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    I don’t know much about Barron, but I do know he played with them last year. Any idea why he is not back if he is way better than Anthony? Just curious.

    As far as Bayless goes, what do they have to give up for a young player? Not sure anyone is wanting Z or Jerry Stackhouse.

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  • #431781
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    mxhart532
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    The only player theyre missing is Chris Bosh…

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  • #431796
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    mxhart532
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    The only player theyre missing is Chris Bosh…

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  • #431782
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    nateoak10
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     Dampier and Stuckey

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  • #431798
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    nateoak10
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     Dampier and Stuckey

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  • #431786
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    bdoody42
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    Off all people why Stuckey?

    I think they should consider people like Dampier, Barron, or maybe just maybe John Bryant.

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  • #431802
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    Off all people why Stuckey?

    I think they should consider people like Dampier, Barron, or maybe just maybe John Bryant.

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  • #431788
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    The Heat had chances to sign various bigs and retained Magloire and signed Big Z. They probably couldn’t retain JO in order to bring in Bosh, Miller and LeBron. I’d assume LeBron recommended Big Z and the team turned down the chance to bring Shaq back or even sign AI.

    Bringing in Dampier would seem a logical move unless Lonzo wants to come out of retirement.

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  • #431804
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    The Heat had chances to sign various bigs and retained Magloire and signed Big Z. They probably couldn’t retain JO in order to bring in Bosh, Miller and LeBron. I’d assume LeBron recommended Big Z and the team turned down the chance to bring Shaq back or even sign AI.

    Bringing in Dampier would seem a logical move unless Lonzo wants to come out of retirement.

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  • #431793
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    They need someone like Andy Varejao some one thats going to fight for everything , rebound and defend….or they can go with a player like a Tyrus Thomas or Jason Thompson whom i think would be great with them.

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  • #431808
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    xavier328
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    They need someone like Andy Varejao some one thats going to fight for everything , rebound and defend….or they can go with a player like a Tyrus Thomas or Jason Thompson whom i think would be great with them.

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  • #431811
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    mj23mj23bestever
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    dampier would be the perfect big all they need the c to do is block sum shots rebound and make easy dunks or lay ups which big damp can do as for the pg imo jason williams would be perfect he can still play decent d and knock down open shots t

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  • #431826
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    mj23mj23bestever
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    dampier would be the perfect big all they need the c to do is block sum shots rebound and make easy dunks or lay ups which big damp can do as for the pg imo jason williams would be perfect he can still play decent d and knock down open shots t

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  • #431814
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    McWinning
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    If they could get Steve Nash, and Greg Oden that would be the perfect starting five.

    Probably a pipedream though.

     

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  • #431828
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    McWinning
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    If they could get Steve Nash, and Greg Oden that would be the perfect starting five.

    Probably a pipedream though.

     

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  • #431827
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    nath09
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    I’m not sure adding any more fringe guys or unproven talent is going to help this team. They just have to learn how to become a team. They have arguably three of the top ten players in the league. That is omething not even the great Chicago era had. Horace Grant and Toni Kukoc were no where near top 10 or top 20 players.

    Now in addition to Wade, James and Bosh you throw in talent like Z, Haslem, Stackhouse, Miller and Chalmers and you have all the skilled basketballers you need for a championship. All you need from there is the hunger to be the best team and the team work to make it happen.

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  • #431841
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    I’m not sure adding any more fringe guys or unproven talent is going to help this team. They just have to learn how to become a team. They have arguably three of the top ten players in the league. That is omething not even the great Chicago era had. Horace Grant and Toni Kukoc were no where near top 10 or top 20 players.

    Now in addition to Wade, James and Bosh you throw in talent like Z, Haslem, Stackhouse, Miller and Chalmers and you have all the skilled basketballers you need for a championship. All you need from there is the hunger to be the best team and the team work to make it happen.

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  • #431833
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    I watched the end of the game, Paul Milsap was unbelievable. They made some mistakes, and it seemed like they just kind of watched Wade at points, which is just ridiculous when you have a team like they have. But I still am not worried. I think they will figure things out and I do not believe they have assets for a trade at this time, especially not for Jerryd Bayless or Rodney Stuckey. But the reason why I do not think anyone should panic is due to the fact they have always remained in games, even when they are playing poorly. They have yet to be blown out once, even when one of their marquee three (or more) has had a really off night. I feel that LeBron should be taking far more of the scoring load, and to me they should have him playing off the ball slightly more, even alternate between he and Wade. This would just make the defenses have to prepare for different scenarios everytime down the court and make them that much more dangerous. I just think clearing out for Dwyane Wade is completely ridiculous with a team like that, he is the guy you maybe want with the ball on a last shot, but just running ISO Wade the entire OT was much too obvious and did not work near the end when he did not get the calls to bail him out. He probably did foul Elson, but what a horrible way to end the game, I know if Miami had been given the same call people would be rife with conspiracy chatter. Still, do people not want to at least see how the season progresses before panicing about the Heat? The teams they have lost too are all playing really good basketball, and in the games they have won they have killed it. I truly believe that soon enough they will be winning close games, but I for one would like to see LeBron take a little bit more of the scoring load, it is completely insane that he is averaging only 20 per game. Also, the railing on Chris Bosh has to stop. The guy is not putting up his numbers from last season, and is struggling to find his role some, but he is still the best 3rd option in basketball right now. I can not believe that after the off-season Miami had, people are still trying to make moves for them. Lets just see how it goes for a little longer before freaking out.

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    • #431875
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      I like somevof ya points. He is deinately not the best third option because he has not adjusted to it. Lamar Odom is clearly the best third option. As he can play 1-5. He is one of the top 4 rebounders in the game. Bosh was a big numbers guy on consistently terrible teams. His numbers were a bit inflated in toronto as its easy to take a lot of shots on a bad team with no pressure.

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    • #431862
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      I like somevof ya points. He is deinately not the best third option because he has not adjusted to it. Lamar Odom is clearly the best third option. As he can play 1-5. He is one of the top 4 rebounders in the game. Bosh was a big numbers guy on consistently terrible teams. His numbers were a bit inflated in toronto as its easy to take a lot of shots on a bad team with no pressure.

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  • #431847
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    I watched the end of the game, Paul Milsap was unbelievable. They made some mistakes, and it seemed like they just kind of watched Wade at points, which is just ridiculous when you have a team like they have. But I still am not worried. I think they will figure things out and I do not believe they have assets for a trade at this time, especially not for Jerryd Bayless or Rodney Stuckey. But the reason why I do not think anyone should panic is due to the fact they have always remained in games, even when they are playing poorly. They have yet to be blown out once, even when one of their marquee three (or more) has had a really off night. I feel that LeBron should be taking far more of the scoring load, and to me they should have him playing off the ball slightly more, even alternate between he and Wade. This would just make the defenses have to prepare for different scenarios everytime down the court and make them that much more dangerous. I just think clearing out for Dwyane Wade is completely ridiculous with a team like that, he is the guy you maybe want with the ball on a last shot, but just running ISO Wade the entire OT was much too obvious and did not work near the end when he did not get the calls to bail him out. He probably did foul Elson, but what a horrible way to end the game, I know if Miami had been given the same call people would be rife with conspiracy chatter. Still, do people not want to at least see how the season progresses before panicing about the Heat? The teams they have lost too are all playing really good basketball, and in the games they have won they have killed it. I truly believe that soon enough they will be winning close games, but I for one would like to see LeBron take a little bit more of the scoring load, it is completely insane that he is averaging only 20 per game. Also, the railing on Chris Bosh has to stop. The guy is not putting up his numbers from last season, and is struggling to find his role some, but he is still the best 3rd option in basketball right now. I can not believe that after the off-season Miami had, people are still trying to make moves for them. Lets just see how it goes for a little longer before freaking out.

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  • #431839
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    diehardhoops
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    Again I watched every dribble of this game as well as replayed the game to break down what I saw. My main observation was what I have been saying all summer. Chris Bosh is a 6"11 shooting guard parading around in a Power Forwards body. This is going to be the achilles heal of the Heat. They have no toughness inside. Udonis Haslem can only bang for so long. Pat riley needs to be trying to get a 7"0 footer who will just block shots, rebound , take hard fouls and be an enforcer instead of replacing Arroyo at the point. There will be no way Miami can withstand the amount of bigs that Boston or Orlando can throw at them in the East. The next issue is the coaching. This guy Spoelstra has no clue offensively how to maximize Lechoke James skills as a driver. This offense looks like the same dribble, dribble, dribble Lechoke jack up a shot when the clock is running down as it was in Cleveland there is no ball movement. The offense is stagnant and has no continuity. Until they get a Big or Bosh grow some nuts they are done.

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  • #431854
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    diehardhoops
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    Again I watched every dribble of this game as well as replayed the game to break down what I saw. My main observation was what I have been saying all summer. Chris Bosh is a 6"11 shooting guard parading around in a Power Forwards body. This is going to be the achilles heal of the Heat. They have no toughness inside. Udonis Haslem can only bang for so long. Pat riley needs to be trying to get a 7"0 footer who will just block shots, rebound , take hard fouls and be an enforcer instead of replacing Arroyo at the point. There will be no way Miami can withstand the amount of bigs that Boston or Orlando can throw at them in the East. The next issue is the coaching. This guy Spoelstra has no clue offensively how to maximize Lechoke James skills as a driver. This offense looks like the same dribble, dribble, dribble Lechoke jack up a shot when the clock is running down as it was in Cleveland there is no ball movement. The offense is stagnant and has no continuity. Until they get a Big or Bosh grow some nuts they are done.

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  • #431842
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    Miami has no pieces with which to move to get any sort of player of substance. They don’t have a first round pick that can be traded until 2017. They have seven guys making the vets minimum, and two former second round picks. I understand that ESPN has been feeding this nonsense on the website and on SC, but nothing about it is realistic. No team is giving up a player of value for Joel Anthony, Dexter Pittman, and/or Mario Chalmers.

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  • #431856
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    Miami has no pieces with which to move to get any sort of player of substance. They don’t have a first round pick that can be traded until 2017. They have seven guys making the vets minimum, and two former second round picks. I understand that ESPN has been feeding this nonsense on the website and on SC, but nothing about it is realistic. No team is giving up a player of value for Joel Anthony, Dexter Pittman, and/or Mario Chalmers.

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  • #431846
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    they need any1 they can get because big 3 aint enough hahahaha

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  • #431860
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    they need any1 they can get because big 3 aint enough hahahaha

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  • #431883
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    delfam
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    PG: Lebron

    SG: Wade

    SF: James Jones

    PF: Bosh

    C: Dampier

    The Heat don’t have any beef inside, Bosh is skinny, Big Z is skinny, Anthony isn’t tough, Dampier is what they need, he is big and tough and he won’t be afraid to hit you. If you play the Heat your not afraid to go inside. Also Arroyo isn’t doing much and Lebron is better with the ball in his hands. This lineup would be really good.

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  • #431870
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    PG: Lebron

    SG: Wade

    SF: James Jones

    PF: Bosh

    C: Dampier

    The Heat don’t have any beef inside, Bosh is skinny, Big Z is skinny, Anthony isn’t tough, Dampier is what they need, he is big and tough and he won’t be afraid to hit you. If you play the Heat your not afraid to go inside. Also Arroyo isn’t doing much and Lebron is better with the ball in his hands. This lineup would be really good.

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  • #431878
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    Platypus
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    next season they need to spend there mid level exception on Sammie D, he is a rerbounder and defensive post guy they need, a point guard that would fit this team better, ya’ll are probably gonna hate on this one, but Boobie Gibson

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  • #431891
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    next season they need to spend there mid level exception on Sammie D, he is a rerbounder and defensive post guy they need, a point guard that would fit this team better, ya’ll are probably gonna hate on this one, but Boobie Gibson

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  • #431886
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    Jlv2010

    just to make sure Lebron gets a championship.

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  • #431899
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    Jlv2010

    just to make sure Lebron gets a championship.

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  • #431892
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    delfam
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    Gibson and Dalembert would be great adds next year

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  • #431906
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    delfam
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    Gibson and Dalembert would be great adds next year

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  • #431909
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    goat27
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     Toney Douglas would be perfect in their line-up.  He wouldn’t need to handle the ball much, just play lock down D on the opposing PG. He would also be their fourth leading scorer behind the Big 3.

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  • #431924
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     Toney Douglas would be perfect in their line-up.  He wouldn’t need to handle the ball much, just play lock down D on the opposing PG. He would also be their fourth leading scorer behind the Big 3.

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  • #431980
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    Big Sam would be a natural pick up if he would accept MLE, he turns 30 next year and if the Heat gave him the full 5 year MLE then he may be interested as the lure of multiple possible titles would be very tempting but Miami may look to spread their MLE over more than one player.

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  • #431993
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    Big Sam would be a natural pick up if he would accept MLE, he turns 30 next year and if the Heat gave him the full 5 year MLE then he may be interested as the lure of multiple possible titles would be very tempting but Miami may look to spread their MLE over more than one player.

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  • #432000
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    NYK2010
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    Should’ve went after Ridnour he’s better than Arroyo.

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  • #432013
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    NYK2010
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    Should’ve went after Ridnour he’s better than Arroyo.

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