This topic contains 34 replies, has 13 voices, and was last updated by AvatarAvatar kerrst 12 years ago.

  • Author
    Posts
  • #56264
    AvatarAvatar
    OhCanada-
    Participant

     With the draft approaching Kyle Anderson proves to be one of the most intriguing prospects. To intrigue you have to be something unusual, unorthadox, or different. Something people are captured by because they have not seen it before so they do not understand it.

    Andersons game is very different. He has many limitations that are masked by great size/length,  versatile skillset, smooth feel for the game and a first class confidence. The confusing and dangerous part of his game is he has success by masking his many limitations with his many positive features. Before projecting a role for Anderson you have to project what he will or will not be able to do.

    The same "limitations" are brought on due to the fact that he is good at so many things. Our first rational thought is "will he be able to do this in the NBA". Then you look into why he may not be able to translate what he does well at a pro level.

    I think he will be successful in the NBA. Not every player in the NBA is a great athlete. If you look at each NBA team and ask yourself who is a standout agile athlete for his position not many players stickout. Thats why they are above average athletes. The Spurs are up 2-1 against the Heat yet they only have Kawhi Leonard who I would say has notable athletic abillity.

    Anderson also seems to have untapped potential athletically. He was a different player his sophmore year due to conditioning and improving his body. He seems like he still has his baby fat. 13.5 % fat on 230 pounds at the combine. If he can drop 6% of his fat and turn that into muscle thats a 15 pound fat to muscle difference. That will allow him to train his muscles to be more explosive yet he is never going to be in a slam dunk competition.

    Some guys who have added athletisism are Mcdermott, Galinari, and Durant. 

    Another misconception within Andersons game is his basketball IQ and feel for the game. Basketball IQ is understanding the game something you learn. Feel for the game is instinctive. It is not the same. People say he has incredible feel and automatically believe he has all the acquired intelligence and understanding to succeed. 

    Kyle has amazing feel for the game and basketball IQ with the ball in his hand. Off the ball he seemed lost at times and even disinterested. This is not because he does not understand the responsibilities of the role given to him but more because he has NO EXPERIENCE off the ball. He has always been a PG and still believes he is one. I guess Im an optimist but I think given an oppurtunity to learn how to effect the game off the ball he will get it done.

    Anderson has star potential to me but he also seems like a large investment. He has alot of things to work on and needs to work on his body NOW. I like to bring up Boris Diaw when talking about Anderson. Diaw is a great example of an unathletic player who effects both ends of the floor in many different ways. I think Anderson is quicker, longer, a better shooter, a better passer, although not quite as comfortable effecting the game defensively or offensively with the ball out of his hands. 

    If Im an NBA Head Coach who’s team selects Anderson I run some Diaw tape for the kid and tell him to study how he effects the game. Anderson can potentially be a Lamar Odom/Boris Diaw type player in the league but he has alot of work to do.

    Aran Smith had Anderson selected as high as 5th overall compared to Magic Johnson and now have him ranked 15th on the mock draft. 

    0
  • #917558
    AvatarAvatar
    FutureNBAGM
    Participant

    I see a lot of Nicolas Batum in his game. His stock has been fluctuating lately but I can see a team like Phoenix(#14/#18) or Chicago(#16/#19) grabbing him.

    0
    • #917564
      AvatarAvatar
      BA30
      Participant

      Anderson is nowhere near the athlete that Batum is. Batum can dunk on 7 footers and has the lateral quickness to stay with most 3s and some 2s. Anderson will get torched defensively if he guards the 1-3s. To be successful he has to be a well rounded 4 in the NBA. I just don’t see it. He is closer to Luke Walton but with a better shot.

      0
      • #917569
        AvatarAvatar
        FutureNBAGM
        Participant

         I meant as far as passing ability and shooting and his ability to spell you at the point in spurts much like I see with Batum. Make more sense? Maybe I should’ve been more specific.

        0
      • #917700
        AvatarAvatar
        FutureNBAGM
        Participant

         I meant as far as passing ability and shooting and his ability to spell you at the point in spurts much like I see with Batum. Make more sense? Maybe I should’ve been more specific.

        0
    • #917696
      AvatarAvatar
      BA30
      Participant

      Anderson is nowhere near the athlete that Batum is. Batum can dunk on 7 footers and has the lateral quickness to stay with most 3s and some 2s. Anderson will get torched defensively if he guards the 1-3s. To be successful he has to be a well rounded 4 in the NBA. I just don’t see it. He is closer to Luke Walton but with a better shot.

      0
  • #917690
    AvatarAvatar
    FutureNBAGM
    Participant

    I see a lot of Nicolas Batum in his game. His stock has been fluctuating lately but I can see a team like Phoenix(#14/#18) or Chicago(#16/#19) grabbing him.

    0
  • #917566
    AvatarAvatar
    llperez

     as a ucla fan who watched him for 2 years, i have defended him in some threads where i thought criticisms were unjst, but i have not made any coments about how i think he will ultimately do in the nba becasue he is just a huge question mark.

    The limitations athleticaly have to concern anyone. But here are some of my defenses of anderson’s game:

    first off, he played point. He brought the ball up. He went again all types of defenses including teams that tried to press him and teams that played off him and teams that used small gaurds on him and teams that used bigs on him. And yet, overall regardless of situation, he thrived. Im not saying he will play gaurd in the nba, but maybe we are writing off his ability to use his dribble and create too quickly. Like I said in another thread recently, aaron gordon from zona is viewed as an elite athlete and defensive prospect. Well zona put gordon on anderson both times they played, and anderson averaged 18.5ppg…13rpg…and 5.5apg in 2 matchups vs aaron gordon. When all is said and done, anderson the offensive player should be just fine regardless of where he plays.

    Now onto defense. The bruins went zone and hid anderson. HE routinely walked around when he was defending off the ball and tried to anticipate steals and blocks ands we rarely got to see straight up man defense. The best thing anderson has going for him defensively, is that while teams will have to hide him on defense in the nba, when you are 6-9 and have 7′ + wingspan, it allows whoever drafts him plenty of options to hide him. I mean he cold potentially be placed anywhere 1-5 on defense depending on the opponent to gaurd the other teams weakest link. 

    Plus he is still developing both physically and skill wise. I mean his body and shooting touch made big strides from his freshman to sophomore season.

    Im pulling for him, but regardless of where he goes, i think it’s going to be interesting to see how does. A real question mark based on his unique combination of strengths and weaknesses.

     

     

     

     

     

    0
    • #917579
      AvatarAvatar
      OhCanada-
      Participant

       Its fun thinking about his projected role or different projected options of his role/roles. You can be very creative imagining his role depending on what you believe he can improve or hide. 

      0
    • #917710
      AvatarAvatar
      OhCanada-
      Participant

       Its fun thinking about his projected role or different projected options of his role/roles. You can be very creative imagining his role depending on what you believe he can improve or hide. 

      0
    • #917583
      AvatarAvatar
      DolanCare
      Participant

      Completely agree with your points on his offensive game. He is an extremely gifted offensive player, and there aren’t many of him… That means he could really fill a niche market nicely. The hard part is finding that niche team. 

      Kyle Anderson is the one of the players that truly needs to find the right team. I think he’ll really struggle to see the floor if a team like Phoenix drafts him. They run like hell and already have plenty of ballhandlers. And any team that has a crappy coach will misuse Anderson as well.

      Anderson needs a team that is cerebral and can showcase his rare skillset in a half court offense. I think the Celtics would be an interesting fit, so would Atlanta. He would also be a whiz in the triangle, too bad the Knicks don’t have a shot of moving into this year’s first round. 

       

      0
    • #917714
      AvatarAvatar
      DolanCare
      Participant

      Completely agree with your points on his offensive game. He is an extremely gifted offensive player, and there aren’t many of him… That means he could really fill a niche market nicely. The hard part is finding that niche team. 

      Kyle Anderson is the one of the players that truly needs to find the right team. I think he’ll really struggle to see the floor if a team like Phoenix drafts him. They run like hell and already have plenty of ballhandlers. And any team that has a crappy coach will misuse Anderson as well.

      Anderson needs a team that is cerebral and can showcase his rare skillset in a half court offense. I think the Celtics would be an interesting fit, so would Atlanta. He would also be a whiz in the triangle, too bad the Knicks don’t have a shot of moving into this year’s first round. 

       

      0
  • #917698
    AvatarAvatar
    llperez

     as a ucla fan who watched him for 2 years, i have defended him in some threads where i thought criticisms were unjst, but i have not made any coments about how i think he will ultimately do in the nba becasue he is just a huge question mark.

    The limitations athleticaly have to concern anyone. But here are some of my defenses of anderson’s game:

    first off, he played point. He brought the ball up. He went again all types of defenses including teams that tried to press him and teams that played off him and teams that used small gaurds on him and teams that used bigs on him. And yet, overall regardless of situation, he thrived. Im not saying he will play gaurd in the nba, but maybe we are writing off his ability to use his dribble and create too quickly. Like I said in another thread recently, aaron gordon from zona is viewed as an elite athlete and defensive prospect. Well zona put gordon on anderson both times they played, and anderson averaged 18.5ppg…13rpg…and 5.5apg in 2 matchups vs aaron gordon. When all is said and done, anderson the offensive player should be just fine regardless of where he plays.

    Now onto defense. The bruins went zone and hid anderson. HE routinely walked around when he was defending off the ball and tried to anticipate steals and blocks ands we rarely got to see straight up man defense. The best thing anderson has going for him defensively, is that while teams will have to hide him on defense in the nba, when you are 6-9 and have 7′ + wingspan, it allows whoever drafts him plenty of options to hide him. I mean he cold potentially be placed anywhere 1-5 on defense depending on the opponent to gaurd the other teams weakest link. 

    Plus he is still developing both physically and skill wise. I mean his body and shooting touch made big strides from his freshman to sophomore season.

    Im pulling for him, but regardless of where he goes, i think it’s going to be interesting to see how does. A real question mark based on his unique combination of strengths and weaknesses.

     

     

     

     

     

    0
  • #917575
    AvatarAvatar
    CodySLC
    Participant

     He sort of reminds me of Boris Diaw.

    0
  • #917706
    AvatarAvatar
    CodySLC
    Participant

     He sort of reminds me of Boris Diaw.

    0
  • #917593
    AvatarAvatar
    Chilbert arenas
    Participant

    I think Boris is a much better passer than Kyle, not a knock on Kyle whatsoever, I just think Boris is top 5 passer in the league in terms of placement, accuracy, timing, and touch on his passes. Very underrated shooter these days as well.

    0
  • #917724
    AvatarAvatar
    Chilbert arenas
    Participant

    I think Boris is a much better passer than Kyle, not a knock on Kyle whatsoever, I just think Boris is top 5 passer in the league in terms of placement, accuracy, timing, and touch on his passes. Very underrated shooter these days as well.

    0
  • #917599
    AvatarAvatar
    Ihateusernames
    Participant

     Kyle Anderson is Boris Diaw. Everytime I watch the spurs play in the playoffs and Boris Diaw makes a nice pass I think of Kyle Anderson. These guys are so similar both around 6’9, not fast but can make quick smooth moves, good IQ, can hit 3s, dribble, rebound, and use IQ an length on the defensive end. Then most importantly they are great team players, they are brilliant skilled passers and know how to play the great the right way

    0
  • #917730
    AvatarAvatar
    Ihateusernames
    Participant

     Kyle Anderson is Boris Diaw. Everytime I watch the spurs play in the playoffs and Boris Diaw makes a nice pass I think of Kyle Anderson. These guys are so similar both around 6’9, not fast but can make quick smooth moves, good IQ, can hit 3s, dribble, rebound, and use IQ an length on the defensive end. Then most importantly they are great team players, they are brilliant skilled passers and know how to play the great the right way

    0
  • #917762
    AvatarAvatar
    Ihateusernames
    Participant

     Yo. Who is using my username and account???? I didn’t write that^^^^^^^^^^^

     

    How do I report my account is being compromised???

    0
  • #917631
    AvatarAvatar
    Ihateusernames
    Participant

     Yo. Who is using my username and account???? I didn’t write that^^^^^^^^^^^

     

    How do I report my account is being compromised???

    0
  • #917778
    AvatarAvatar
    nateval
    Participant

    I think Anderson would be a great fit in Boston, he would work great in Brad Stevens system I hope he’s on the board at 17  

    0
  • #917647
    AvatarAvatar
    nateval
    Participant

    I think Anderson would be a great fit in Boston, he would work great in Brad Stevens system I hope he’s on the board at 17  

    0
  • #917794
    AvatarAvatar
    AaronH
    Participant

     To me I think Kyle Anderson might surprise people next year. He has no position he’s just a basketball player who makes the right plays and knows what he can and cannot do on the court. Some say he’s Boris Diaw but the better comparison is Jalen Rose. They have very similar skill set except Kyle Anderson might be a better passer and shooter at this age. Jalen wasn’t quick or explosive but he knew how to keep guys on his hip and had a solid post game. In order for Kyle Anderson to be successful in the NBA he has to keep improving his jumper and his post game where he can use his size and length to score in the paint. There’s some talks that he’s standing out in workouts and Atlanta already want him for a second workout so obviously he’s answering some question scouts were asking.Teams he would be perfect for is Atlanta, Boston, Phoenix, and Memphis where they can use his versatility and help him become a better defender.

    His first couple of years, I think he would a point guard off the bench where he can control the offense and control the tempo and his defensive liabilities won’t hurt the team that much and if he can improve he can be the starting 3 and give the frontcourt size and length while giving the team who draft him another ball creator and floor general. Defensively he would have a tough time his first couple of years but with his size, length, and work ethic I think he can develop into a passable defender. Kyle won’t be a superstar and probably won’t even be an all star but he can be a versatile point forward type who can create mismatches on a daily basis.

    He’ll probably land somewhere in the teens.

     

     

     

     

     

    0
  • #917663
    AvatarAvatar
    AaronH
    Participant

     To me I think Kyle Anderson might surprise people next year. He has no position he’s just a basketball player who makes the right plays and knows what he can and cannot do on the court. Some say he’s Boris Diaw but the better comparison is Jalen Rose. They have very similar skill set except Kyle Anderson might be a better passer and shooter at this age. Jalen wasn’t quick or explosive but he knew how to keep guys on his hip and had a solid post game. In order for Kyle Anderson to be successful in the NBA he has to keep improving his jumper and his post game where he can use his size and length to score in the paint. There’s some talks that he’s standing out in workouts and Atlanta already want him for a second workout so obviously he’s answering some question scouts were asking.Teams he would be perfect for is Atlanta, Boston, Phoenix, and Memphis where they can use his versatility and help him become a better defender.

    His first couple of years, I think he would a point guard off the bench where he can control the offense and control the tempo and his defensive liabilities won’t hurt the team that much and if he can improve he can be the starting 3 and give the frontcourt size and length while giving the team who draft him another ball creator and floor general. Defensively he would have a tough time his first couple of years but with his size, length, and work ethic I think he can develop into a passable defender. Kyle won’t be a superstar and probably won’t even be an all star but he can be a versatile point forward type who can create mismatches on a daily basis.

    He’ll probably land somewhere in the teens.

     

     

     

     

     

    0
  • #917887
    AvatarAvatar
    kerrst
    Participant

    While the topic content is different since I focused on position, it’s a little suspect that you use the same title that I did on May 1st and I doubt it’s a coincidence…..use your own creativity and not someone else’s!

    Who is Kyle Anderson?

    If you are like me than you are having trouble figuring out where Kyle Anderson should go on your mock draft. He is a unique talent and possess alot of gifts that cannot be matched for a player of his size, specifically ballhandling and passing. But because of his slow feet I am not sure if he can play PG athe pace of the NBA. With that being said if he plays beside a ball dominant PG like westbrook or Rondo that alot of the gifts that made him successful in college are not utilized. So my question is where is the best fit for Kyle Anderson, position and team?

    If he is a SG than playing alongside scoring or defensive guards like Brandon Knight in Milwaukee or Patrick Beverly in Houston makes sense.

    If he is a PG than he would be a great fit in Chicago as insurance to an injured Rose or as a nice compliment to a healthy Rose. If Phil Jackson turns the Knicks into a triangle offense than he would be a good fit in that offense. Maybe even Indy could use him and get rid of George Hill and have Paul George and Kyle initiate the offense.

    If he is a small forward then he works as a point forward for Orlando where Oladipo and Kyle do the primary ball handling maybe even a similar role in Detroit or Minnesota.

    Who is Kyle Anderson and more importantly who will he be in the NBA because any NBA team that drafts or trades into the draft for him has to really sure he fits the team offensively to get return on their investment.

    0
  • #917755
    AvatarAvatar
    kerrst
    Participant

    While the topic content is different since I focused on position, it’s a little suspect that you use the same title that I did on May 1st and I doubt it’s a coincidence…..use your own creativity and not someone else’s!

    Who is Kyle Anderson?

    If you are like me than you are having trouble figuring out where Kyle Anderson should go on your mock draft. He is a unique talent and possess alot of gifts that cannot be matched for a player of his size, specifically ballhandling and passing. But because of his slow feet I am not sure if he can play PG athe pace of the NBA. With that being said if he plays beside a ball dominant PG like westbrook or Rondo that alot of the gifts that made him successful in college are not utilized. So my question is where is the best fit for Kyle Anderson, position and team?

    If he is a SG than playing alongside scoring or defensive guards like Brandon Knight in Milwaukee or Patrick Beverly in Houston makes sense.

    If he is a PG than he would be a great fit in Chicago as insurance to an injured Rose or as a nice compliment to a healthy Rose. If Phil Jackson turns the Knicks into a triangle offense than he would be a good fit in that offense. Maybe even Indy could use him and get rid of George Hill and have Paul George and Kyle initiate the offense.

    If he is a small forward then he works as a point forward for Orlando where Oladipo and Kyle do the primary ball handling maybe even a similar role in Detroit or Minnesota.

    Who is Kyle Anderson and more importantly who will he be in the NBA because any NBA team that drafts or trades into the draft for him has to really sure he fits the team offensively to get return on their investment.

    0
    • #917797
      AvatarAvatar
      OhCanada-
      Participant

      Its a very common way to begin a thread. Sorry if you feel like I stole your creative touch.

      I didnt really know what to name the thread. I was bouncing around with "Kyle Anderson Debunked", "the real Kyle Anderson", "Kyle Andersons Role", but settled with "Who Is Kyle Anderson".

      0
      • #918056
        AvatarAvatar
        kerrst
        Participant

        I didn’t mean to come across so harsh but I’ve had a few occurrences lately where some posters have used my exact trade and exact draft commentary almost word for word. I’m also from Toronto and a huge raptors fan so we are supposed to be brothers in arms so thanks for clairifying.  Big things for the raps next season!!!

        0
      • #917922
        AvatarAvatar
        kerrst
        Participant

        I didn’t mean to come across so harsh but I’ve had a few occurrences lately where some posters have used my exact trade and exact draft commentary almost word for word. I’m also from Toronto and a huge raptors fan so we are supposed to be brothers in arms so thanks for clairifying.  Big things for the raps next season!!!

        0
    • #917929
      AvatarAvatar
      OhCanada-
      Participant

      Its a very common way to begin a thread. Sorry if you feel like I stole your creative touch.

      I didnt really know what to name the thread. I was bouncing around with "Kyle Anderson Debunked", "the real Kyle Anderson", "Kyle Andersons Role", but settled with "Who Is Kyle Anderson".

      0
  • #917773
    AvatarAvatar
    Captain L
    Participant

    As a Jazz fan I’d love to see him fall to the Jazz at 23, we need a big point guard and although Anderson probably won’t be able to play the point full time in the nba he could in certain matchups, I love guys who are good passers and make teammate better because of their IQ and passing and I think Anderson falls into that category. I like the Diaw comparison but Anderson is more of a point, Diaw is stronger and facilitates more as a 4,(from the high post / low post), that said, Anderson could mature and get bigger & stronger and end up playing a role like Diaw. This draft will be interesting.

    0
  • #917904
    AvatarAvatar
    Captain L
    Participant

    As a Jazz fan I’d love to see him fall to the Jazz at 23, we need a big point guard and although Anderson probably won’t be able to play the point full time in the nba he could in certain matchups, I love guys who are good passers and make teammate better because of their IQ and passing and I think Anderson falls into that category. I like the Diaw comparison but Anderson is more of a point, Diaw is stronger and facilitates more as a 4,(from the high post / low post), that said, Anderson could mature and get bigger & stronger and end up playing a role like Diaw. This draft will be interesting.

    0
  • #917821
    AvatarAvatar
    Jester87
    Participant

    Diaw can post up the crap out of most Nba players, not only wings but also many 4s. And he’s a terrific scorer down there, he draws double teams. He’s strong, he’s guarded Nowitzki and Aldridge and has done a terrific job on them. He’s also spent minutes on LeBron (he was great last year, LeBron has destroyed him thus far this season), but he can guard wings, his lateral quicks are underrated.

    I was a great fan of Slo Mo as a college player, but he’s not Boris Diaw. He’s never been much of a threat posting up, he’s long and tall but not strong, his lateral quickness is a concern. He’s played mostly at point guard, as a frosh playing off the ball he struggled a lot. Diaw is a combo-forward or sort of a stretch 4. So the only thing they share is size and passing ability

    0
  • #917952
    AvatarAvatar
    Jester87
    Participant

    Diaw can post up the crap out of most Nba players, not only wings but also many 4s. And he’s a terrific scorer down there, he draws double teams. He’s strong, he’s guarded Nowitzki and Aldridge and has done a terrific job on them. He’s also spent minutes on LeBron (he was great last year, LeBron has destroyed him thus far this season), but he can guard wings, his lateral quicks are underrated.

    I was a great fan of Slo Mo as a college player, but he’s not Boris Diaw. He’s never been much of a threat posting up, he’s long and tall but not strong, his lateral quickness is a concern. He’s played mostly at point guard, as a frosh playing off the ball he struggled a lot. Diaw is a combo-forward or sort of a stretch 4. So the only thing they share is size and passing ability

    0

You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Login