[negguaryParticipant]

Dario Saric was named the Euroleague player of the Year. Im a huge Sixers fan so this is great news to me. I’ve watched highlights form this guy and still cant tell who he is. One firend tells me he is a European KD and my one cousin who is more a realist says hes AK47 at best. So people please tell me who is Dario Saric???

Thanks in advance

[CameronCrazy11Participant]

One of the best young Europeans out there. Has been compared to guys like Toni Kukoc, Hedo Turkoglu, and Boris Diaw. Really looking forward to when he finally joins the NBA.

[CameronCrazy11Participant]

One of the best young Europeans out there. Has been compared to guys like Toni Kukoc, Hedo Turkoglu, and Boris Diaw. Really looking forward to when he finally joins the NBA.

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

He was named “Euroleague young player of the Year” not “Euroleague player of the Year”
He isn’t elite shooter to be compared to KD ,it was actually his biggest weakness but he has worked on it a bit ,was 50%FT shooter but now he is shooting over 70% shooter .not out of question he can turn into good shooter when he is 25-26
Not sure about AK47 either ,he isn’t as athletic or as good defensively
He is very intelligent passer and great rebounder .kind of jack of all trades type of players
Like cameroncrazy11 comparisons

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

He was named “Euroleague young player of the Year” not “Euroleague player of the Year”
He isn’t elite shooter to be compared to KD ,it was actually his biggest weakness but he has worked on it a bit ,was 50%FT shooter but now he is shooting over 70% shooter .not out of question he can turn into good shooter when he is 25-26
Not sure about AK47 either ,he isn’t as athletic or as good defensively
He is very intelligent passer and great rebounder .kind of jack of all trades type of players
Like cameroncrazy11 comparisons

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Would say the Andrei Kirilenko comparison is closer than the Kevin Durant comparison. He was named Euroleague Player of the Month for November, though the season is still ongoing and he more than likely will not be the Euroleague Player of the Year. Do not know if you have ever heard of the poster "European Basketballer", but you might have given him a brain aneurysm by stating that. To me and pretty much everyone else here, it is not that big of a deal. Wanted to clear up just what he was given, which was the award for best player with European citizenship under the age of 22:

http://www.fiba.com/news/saric-goes-back-to-back

It is actually the 2nd time he has been given this award, as he took it home last year as well. Won it over some solid competition, though it is indeed a tad subjective seeing that not everyone plays in the same league or level. Past winners were [Player: Jonas Valanciunas] (2011-12), [Player: Jan Vesely] (2011) and [Player: Ricky Rubio] (2007-9, only 3 time winner, though Saric could tie if he wins in 2015). Saric is from Croatia and was playing for KK Cibona last season, winning both league MVP and Finals MVP last season. He signed a deal with Turkish team Anadolu Efes, which is a higher level of both team and also plays in the Euroleague. The difference last year is that he played in Eurocup with Cibona.

For those who do not follow European hoops, what usually happens every week is that they play one game in their domestic league than another game in a league with teams from all over Europe. So, he was playing in the Adriatic League and against the midlevel teams in most European leagues last year, now he plays in the stronger TBL along with playing against the top clubs from around Europe in the Euroleague. Am guessing this will not appease a hardcore 76ers fan who would rather he be over here now, though I think it is actually helpful for his development to go up to this level and therefore be more prepared once he gets to the NBA.

Saric is known for being a "point-forward", he can handle the ball well and has solid court vision. He dominated in youth competitions and was viewed as one of the more exciting European prospects (until Giannis Antetokounmpo came out of nowhere). He is a decent shooter, though that is still a part of his game that needs work. Saw him two years straight at the Hoop Summit, he is a talented player who seemed to work hard with a team focus. Not the best athlete and he is a bit of a tweener defensively.

Nikola Mirotic was a better shooter and rebounder than Saric, would give Dario the advantage in handles and passing. Am guessing if Saric can establish a similar role to begin with and than eventually build on that, they would be happy. Ultimately, they will hope he can play the wing, just not sure he fits their defensively and he will need to make people respect his shot more. Am hearing he takes one more year for Anadolu Efes before going to the NBA, the buyout is probably too much for him to bail early. Not completely sure, just going off of what I have heard was the plan. Things started slow in Efes, than he eventually filled a nice role, averaging 10.9 ppg, 5.8 rpg and 2.8 apg in about 24 mpg. Those are really solid numbers, especially seeing that International basketball makes it more difficult to get an assist. He should be a really nice piece to their front court, though the key, like everything in Philly right now, is patience.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Would say the Andrei Kirilenko comparison is closer than the Kevin Durant comparison. He was named Euroleague Player of the Month for November, though the season is still ongoing and he more than likely will not be the Euroleague Player of the Year. Do not know if you have ever heard of the poster "European Basketballer", but you might have given him a brain aneurysm by stating that. To me and pretty much everyone else here, it is not that big of a deal. Wanted to clear up just what he was given, which was the award for best player with European citizenship under the age of 22:

http://www.fiba.com/news/saric-goes-back-to-back

It is actually the 2nd time he has been given this award, as he took it home last year as well. Won it over some solid competition, though it is indeed a tad subjective seeing that not everyone plays in the same league or level. Past winners were [Player: Jonas Valanciunas] (2011-12), [Player: Jan Vesely] (2011) and [Player: Ricky Rubio] (2007-9, only 3 time winner, though Saric could tie if he wins in 2015). Saric is from Croatia and was playing for KK Cibona last season, winning both league MVP and Finals MVP last season. He signed a deal with Turkish team Anadolu Efes, which is a higher level of both team and also plays in the Euroleague. The difference last year is that he played in Eurocup with Cibona.

For those who do not follow European hoops, what usually happens every week is that they play one game in their domestic league than another game in a league with teams from all over Europe. So, he was playing in the Adriatic League and against the midlevel teams in most European leagues last year, now he plays in the stronger TBL along with playing against the top clubs from around Europe in the Euroleague. Am guessing this will not appease a hardcore 76ers fan who would rather he be over here now, though I think it is actually helpful for his development to go up to this level and therefore be more prepared once he gets to the NBA.

Saric is known for being a "point-forward", he can handle the ball well and has solid court vision. He dominated in youth competitions and was viewed as one of the more exciting European prospects (until Giannis Antetokounmpo came out of nowhere). He is a decent shooter, though that is still a part of his game that needs work. Saw him two years straight at the Hoop Summit, he is a talented player who seemed to work hard with a team focus. Not the best athlete and he is a bit of a tweener defensively.

Nikola Mirotic was a better shooter and rebounder than Saric, would give Dario the advantage in handles and passing. Am guessing if Saric can establish a similar role to begin with and than eventually build on that, they would be happy. Ultimately, they will hope he can play the wing, just not sure he fits their defensively and he will need to make people respect his shot more. Am hearing he takes one more year for Anadolu Efes before going to the NBA, the buyout is probably too much for him to bail early. Not completely sure, just going off of what I have heard was the plan. Things started slow in Efes, than he eventually filled a nice role, averaging 10.9 ppg, 5.8 rpg and 2.8 apg in about 24 mpg. Those are really solid numbers, especially seeing that International basketball makes it more difficult to get an assist. He should be a really nice piece to their front court, though the key, like everything in Philly right now, is patience.

[negguaryParticipant]

Thanks

[negguaryParticipant]

Thanks

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Dario Saric is a solid rebounder, he shoots OK from 3, inconsistent though. He’s not a good defender, but he plays hard most of the time. He’s pretty good as a cutter, when he cuts to the basket, his court vision allows him to find his teammates for easy baskets, but he’s not a point forward. He’s not the primary ball handler.

He’s not either KD or AK47.

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Agree. This "point forward" nonsense is total myth from NBA hype machine. Why does NBA always do this ridiculous nonsense with European players and just make up all this untrue BS about them?

He is for sure nothing like a point forward at all. He is clear as day classic face up power forward and in no way does he at all resemble a point forward even in the slightest.

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Agree. This "point forward" nonsense is total myth from NBA hype machine. Why does NBA always do this ridiculous nonsense with European players and just make up all this untrue BS about them?

He is for sure nothing like a point forward at all. He is clear as day classic face up power forward and in no way does he at all resemble a point forward even in the slightest.

 

 

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Dario Saric is a solid rebounder, he shoots OK from 3, inconsistent though. He’s not a good defender, but he plays hard most of the time. He’s pretty good as a cutter, when he cuts to the basket, his court vision allows him to find his teammates for easy baskets, but he’s not a point forward. He’s not the primary ball handler.

He’s not either KD or AK47.

 

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 Plays with great intensity and energy.  Kinda between positions, as he has short arms and a very poor reach for a PF, but lacks great lateral quickness for a SF.  He plays hard and smart, but his physical tools may make playing defense difficult in the NBA.  King Calucha’s description is really accurate – he is a good ball-handler, passer and cutter.  He is particularly good at interior passes, although he sometimes overpasses.  And he can take slower defenders off-the-dribble in iso situations, similar to Lamar Odom.  

If he can become a fairly efficient shooter at the NBA level and really works to maximize his physique so as to be capable on defense, he could be a really good player.  I have a feeling he will be pretty productive in the NBA, as he is a very confident agressive player.  I haven’t watched him much this season, so I can’t say how he is progressing at the moment, but he was/is an excellent prospect.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

I always see this comment that he has to work on physique to play in NBA from NBA fans…I do not understand this nonsense. This guy is only 20 years old and is just like NCAA junior in age and from his team’s measurements at the start of this year he was already at 6-11 and 235 pounds.

And he is very strong for his size. He one of those players that plays stronger than his size and build and stronger than his age. And of course since he is only 20 he is naturally going to get a lot bigger and stronger.

So all of these comments that he has to work on his body and get stronger to play in NBA are totally nonsense and illogical. Do you want him to be like Incredible Hulk? To be so huge that he can’t even move on the court anymore?

He has to maintain his ability to move and his agility or he will lose his whole effictiveness. He is easily MORE than big enough and strong enough already right now for the NBA at just 20 years old and is going to get a lot bigger and stronger just by getting older naturally without even having to tough a weight or doing anything. 

So this whole talk about all this needs to get stronger and work on his body to be able to play in NBA is total BS. He is actually much more built than most of the American NBA draft picks are and strange thing is how you almost never see similar comments about them being made, even ones that are way smaller and less strong than him. Typical "Euros are soft", "Euros are weak", blah blah blah nonsense Americans keep on with even to this day.

He is playing against all kinds of very big and very strong power forwards and centers in Euroleague that are fully grown men and having no trouble at all, and yes, they are every bit as big and strong as the ones in the NBA are, despite all the BS nonsense that claims otherwise.

Stregnth and working on his body is the absolute least of Saric’s issues. He is for example like a physical adonis and BEAST many times over compared to someone like Mirotic, who is like a walking beanpole compared to Saric, and even Mirotic (who was probably the softest player to even play in Euroleague) is having no problem rebounding and defending in NBA, and magically he looks much BIGGER in NBA than he did in Euroleague….he suddenly looks much TALLER in NBA against those "bigger, taller NBA players" than he even did against those "shorter, smaller Euroleaguer players". So, that, "Saric needs to get bigger and stronger" stuff is nonsense. If he gets even just a little bit bulked up from what he already is going to naturally be, he is going to lose his natural mobility and agility, because he is already pretty damn huge, despite the nonsense from NBA hype machine saying otherwise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

I always see this comment that he has to work on physique to play in NBA from NBA fans…I do not understand this nonsense. This guy is only 20 years old and is just like NCAA junior in age and from his team’s measurements at the start of this year he was already at 6-11 and 235 pounds.

And he is very strong for his size. He one of those players that plays stronger than his size and build and stronger than his age. And of course since he is only 20 he is naturally going to get a lot bigger and stronger.

So all of these comments that he has to work on his body and get stronger to play in NBA are totally nonsense and illogical. Do you want him to be like Incredible Hulk? To be so huge that he can’t even move on the court anymore?

He has to maintain his ability to move and his agility or he will lose his whole effictiveness. He is easily MORE than big enough and strong enough already right now for the NBA at just 20 years old and is going to get a lot bigger and stronger just by getting older naturally without even having to tough a weight or doing anything. 

So this whole talk about all this needs to get stronger and work on his body to be able to play in NBA is total BS. He is actually much more built than most of the American NBA draft picks are and strange thing is how you almost never see similar comments about them being made, even ones that are way smaller and less strong than him. Typical "Euros are soft", "Euros are weak", blah blah blah nonsense Americans keep on with even to this day.

He is playing against all kinds of very big and very strong power forwards and centers in Euroleague that are fully grown men and having no trouble at all, and yes, they are every bit as big and strong as the ones in the NBA are, despite all the BS nonsense that claims otherwise.

Stregnth and working on his body is the absolute least of Saric’s issues. He is for example like a physical adonis and BEAST many times over compared to someone like Mirotic, who is like a walking beanpole compared to Saric, and even Mirotic (who was probably the softest player to even play in Euroleague) is having no problem rebounding and defending in NBA, and magically he looks much BIGGER in NBA than he did in Euroleague….he suddenly looks much TALLER in NBA against those "bigger, taller NBA players" than he even did against those "shorter, smaller Euroleaguer players". So, that, "Saric needs to get bigger and stronger" stuff is nonsense. If he gets even just a little bit bulked up from what he already is going to naturally be, he is going to lose his natural mobility and agility, because he is already pretty damn huge, despite the nonsense from NBA hype machine saying otherwise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 Plays with great intensity and energy.  Kinda between positions, as he has short arms and a very poor reach for a PF, but lacks great lateral quickness for a SF.  He plays hard and smart, but his physical tools may make playing defense difficult in the NBA.  King Calucha’s description is really accurate – he is a good ball-handler, passer and cutter.  He is particularly good at interior passes, although he sometimes overpasses.  And he can take slower defenders off-the-dribble in iso situations, similar to Lamar Odom.  

If he can become a fairly efficient shooter at the NBA level and really works to maximize his physique so as to be capable on defense, he could be a really good player.  I have a feeling he will be pretty productive in the NBA, as he is a very confident agressive player.  I haven’t watched him much this season, so I can’t say how he is progressing at the moment, but he was/is an excellent prospect.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 Plays with great intensity and energy.  Kinda between positions, as he has short arms and a very poor reach for a PF, but lacks great lateral quickness for a SF.  He plays hard and smart, but his physical tools may make playing defense difficult in the NBA.  King Calucha’s description is really accurate – he is a good ball-handler, passer and cutter.  He is particularly good at interior passes, although he sometimes overpasses.  And he can take slower defenders off-the-dribble in iso situations, similar to Lamar Odom.  

If he can become a fairly efficient shooter at the NBA level and really works to maximize his physique so as to be capable on defense, he could be a really good player.  I have a feeling he will be pretty productive in the NBA, as he is a very confident agressive player.  I haven’t watched him much this season, so I can’t say how he is progressing at the moment, but he was/is an excellent prospect.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 Plays with great intensity and energy.  Kinda between positions, as he has short arms and a very poor reach for a PF, but lacks great lateral quickness for a SF.  He plays hard and smart, but his physical tools may make playing defense difficult in the NBA.  King Calucha’s description is really accurate – he is a good ball-handler, passer and cutter.  He is particularly good at interior passes, although he sometimes overpasses.  And he can take slower defenders off-the-dribble in iso situations, similar to Lamar Odom.  

If he can become a fairly efficient shooter at the NBA level and really works to maximize his physique so as to be capable on defense, he could be a really good player.  I have a feeling he will be pretty productive in the NBA, as he is a very confident agressive player.  I haven’t watched him much this season, so I can’t say how he is progressing at the moment, but he was/is an excellent prospect.

[HitsterParticipant]

 I like the Diaw, Turko comparisons personally, he’ll be a nice asset for Philly when he comes over. Sam Hinkie has a nice stasher in him. It will be very interesting to see when he does finally come over, at one point it was said he may not come over for about 3 years circa 2017 but I then seem to recall he might come over sooner.

A lot will depend on his European contract plus Philly will logically want to balance the amount of rookies on their team. It seems that Embiid will not play much if at all this season, next season it could be him and this year’s highest pick as two rookies plus potentially whoever they pick with the Miami pick. Les say they Philly took another European guy with the pick from Miami for example Kristaps Porzingis, Hinkie could choose to leave that guy abroad for a couple of years and bring Saric over instead.

Saric as a tweener will be a nice fit for Philly being able to play SF or to slide over to PF alongside Noel or Embiid.

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

But Saric is not a tweener. That’s NBA myths and nonsense hype as usual. He’s a power forward. Only people that think he is a tweener, are ones that have never seen him play a game.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

But Saric is not a tweener. That’s NBA myths and nonsense hype as usual. He’s a power forward. Only people that think he is a tweener, are ones that have never seen him play a game.

[HitsterParticipant]

 I like the Diaw, Turko comparisons personally, he’ll be a nice asset for Philly when he comes over. Sam Hinkie has a nice stasher in him. It will be very interesting to see when he does finally come over, at one point it was said he may not come over for about 3 years circa 2017 but I then seem to recall he might come over sooner.

A lot will depend on his European contract plus Philly will logically want to balance the amount of rookies on their team. It seems that Embiid will not play much if at all this season, next season it could be him and this year’s highest pick as two rookies plus potentially whoever they pick with the Miami pick. Les say they Philly took another European guy with the pick from Miami for example Kristaps Porzingis, Hinkie could choose to leave that guy abroad for a couple of years and bring Saric over instead.

Saric as a tweener will be a nice fit for Philly being able to play SF or to slide over to PF alongside Noel or Embiid.

 

 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 He’s nothing like Kirilenko or Durant. I’d erase those two comparisons from your memory banks. He has an elite basketball IQ with incredible passing instincts and knows how to dribble through defenses. 

And if you watch him play, he’s by no means a bad defender. He knows how to defend- showing great weakside help and how to push penetrators to the baseline…. he tries, as said above.

When I watch him play I can’t help but think of Magic Johnson. I know that sounds ridiculous since Magic is top 10 all time, but the way Dario moves and sees the floor just makes me think of Magic. 

 

 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 He’s nothing like Kirilenko or Durant. I’d erase those two comparisons from your memory banks. He has an elite basketball IQ with incredible passing instincts and knows how to dribble through defenses. 

And if you watch him play, he’s by no means a bad defender. He knows how to defend- showing great weakside help and how to push penetrators to the baseline…. he tries, as said above.

When I watch him play I can’t help but think of Magic Johnson. I know that sounds ridiculous since Magic is top 10 all time, but the way Dario moves and sees the floor just makes me think of Magic. 

 

 

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

 Above all- he’s tough

 

Dario Saric has teeth knocked out, continues to play in FIBA WC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42BJIjaQViY

 

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

 Above all- he’s tough

 

Dario Saric has teeth knocked out, continues to play in FIBA WC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42BJIjaQViY

 

[sitlbitoParticipant]

He’s a terrific passer for his size and position,really great passer ala Boris Diaw. But he’s (obviously) faster,can grab a rebound and go all the way to the basket on the other end. He still got some development to do,he’s a bit out of control with his ball handling. He’s willing to battle Inside, and he really has no fear. So his weaknesses are never dueto a lack of effort. His big to big passes are a thing of beauty,Noel or even Embiid would benefit greatly from playing with him.

[sitlbitoParticipant]

He’s a terrific passer for his size and position,really great passer ala Boris Diaw. But he’s (obviously) faster,can grab a rebound and go all the way to the basket on the other end. He still got some development to do,he’s a bit out of control with his ball handling. He’s willing to battle Inside, and he really has no fear. So his weaknesses are never dueto a lack of effort. His big to big passes are a thing of beauty,Noel or even Embiid would benefit greatly from playing with him.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

Hes a much better scorer then everybody realizes.  Reminds me of an upgraded Chandler Parsons

 

[Mr. 19134Participant]

Hes a much better scorer then everybody realizes.  Reminds me of an upgraded Chandler Parsons

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

He wasn’t named Euroleague player of the year. He was named FIBA young player of the year. That is an enormous difference. FIBA young player if the year is like an award for college and high school type players.

It is nothing remotely similar to anything having to do with anything like being named the best player in Euroleague, which he is many country miles from.

Saric is a very, very talented player and I like him a lot, but he is far from the level of the best players in Euroleague. Honestly, he isn’t even the best player on his own team in Euroleague, and his team is quite a mediocre team.

I would say he is probably in truth something like the 2nd to 4th best player on his team, and it’s barely even an average team.

So he’s a really talented player and I really like him a lot, but you need to get in reality of what level he is at, which is far away from anything related to best player in Euroleague.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

He wasn’t named Euroleague player of the year. He was named FIBA young player of the year. That is an enormous difference. FIBA young player if the year is like an award for college and high school type players.

It is nothing remotely similar to anything having to do with anything like being named the best player in Euroleague, which he is many country miles from.

Saric is a very, very talented player and I like him a lot, but he is far from the level of the best players in Euroleague. Honestly, he isn’t even the best player on his own team in Euroleague, and his team is quite a mediocre team.

I would say he is probably in truth something like the 2nd to 4th best player on his team, and it’s barely even an average team.

So he’s a really talented player and I really like him a lot, but you need to get in reality of what level he is at, which is far away from anything related to best player in Euroleague.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sitlbitoParticipant]

First of all:calm the hell down. Efes istanbul isnot mediocre,it’s one of the 8 best teams in Europe. He’s a starter on this team,and the most talented player on it. Yes he’s a point forward because he can pass and has vision like a point guard. And yes,he would have a hard time playing against NBA level athletes at this point. Stop your USA hate it’s totally annoying. And by the way don’t even start an arguent with me because you should know I’m the last who actually answers to you on this site. So be happy about that. Euroleague young player of the year is the equivalent of rookie of the year more than college or High school. Stop spreading wrong facts about Europe.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Sorry, that is not the definition of a point forward. Being a great passer doesn’t make him a point forward. A point forward is someone who fills PG duties full-time offensively and defends a forward on the othe side. Saric plays off the ball.

I can’t believe I agree with Euroballer in this one. Saric is a PF.

 

 

[sitlbitoParticipant]

They call Noah a point center,that does not mean he runs the offense on his own.

[sitlbitoParticipant]

They call Noah a point center,that does not mean he runs the offense on his own.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Sorry, that is not the definition of a point forward. Being a great passer doesn’t make him a point forward. A point forward is someone who fills PG duties full-time offensively and defends a forward on the othe side. Saric plays off the ball.

I can’t believe I agree with Euroballer in this one. Saric is a PF.

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Efes is mediocre team. They have some young college type players and even a high school kid in their rotation. Any serious team will destroy them. Get serious. There is also no such thing as a "starter" in Euroleague. So why do you mention that "Saric starts"?

It matters nothing since Euroleague does not have starters. There is no bench and starters there. That is an NBA concept that does not exist there. There is just players that are interchangeable, some might start, some not. A 1-10 or 1-11 rotation.

League MVP can often even COME OFF THE BENCH. 

Saric is nothing remotely resembling a point forward. He is a face up power forward. You make it sound like he some Scottie Pippen, LeBron James, Larry Bird or something, when he is just playing as a classic face up four.

Please, you need to lay off the drugs.

 

 

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Efes is mediocre team. They have some young college type players and even a high school kid in their rotation. Any serious team will destroy them. Get serious. There is also no such thing as a "starter" in Euroleague. So why do you mention that "Saric starts"?

It matters nothing since Euroleague does not have starters. There is no bench and starters there. That is an NBA concept that does not exist there. There is just players that are interchangeable, some might start, some not. A 1-10 or 1-11 rotation.

League MVP can often even COME OFF THE BENCH. 

Saric is nothing remotely resembling a point forward. He is a face up power forward. You make it sound like he some Scottie Pippen, LeBron James, Larry Bird or something, when he is just playing as a classic face up four.

Please, you need to lay off the drugs.

 

 

 

 

[sitlbitoParticipant]

First of all:calm the hell down. Efes istanbul isnot mediocre,it’s one of the 8 best teams in Europe. He’s a starter on this team,and the most talented player on it. Yes he’s a point forward because he can pass and has vision like a point guard. And yes,he would have a hard time playing against NBA level athletes at this point. Stop your USA hate it’s totally annoying. And by the way don’t even start an arguent with me because you should know I’m the last who actually answers to you on this site. So be happy about that. Euroleague young player of the year is the equivalent of rookie of the year more than college or High school. Stop spreading wrong facts about Europe.

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