[clarkpkParticipant]

 I notice Anderson is moving up the nbadraft.net mock, but he is still in the 20’s (or out of the 1st round altogether) in many experts’ minds.  I don’t get it.  The kid is 6’9", 230 and has a ridiculous number of skills.  I understand that his athleticism isn’t elite, and he seems kind of plodding, but there are so few guys his size who can handle & pass like he can.  I really think he should be a top 10 pick – I’d take him over, say, Gary Harris any day.  No offense to Harris, but he is pretty much the opposite of Anderson – a guy with size/skill issues, but a surplus of athleticism.  

Anderson might be the best passer available in the entire draft.  He could work as a stretch 4 or a big 3. He reminds me of Chandler Parsons, although he is a much better passer and a worse shooter (keep in mind Parsons played 4 years in college).  Of course, Parsons was massively underrated coming out of college, which is relevant here.  His game (although obviously not his build) also reminds me of Anthony Mason, another guy who played slowly, but with tremendous control over the game.  

I think the draft can become an obsession over pure athleticism, which causes players like Anderson to be underrated.  Heck, Terrence Jones fell way too far 2 years ago because he wasn’t as athletic as his UK frontcourt mates.

Bottom line: not a UCLA fan, but I’m adopting them for this year because of this guy.  I hope he falls into the hands of a smart team that finds a way to exploit his talent .

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

You can’t be a stretch four if you can’t shoot the ball. Jones fell because he lacked a true position, people give him the dreaded 3/4 label and he just happened to fit perfectly at the 4 next to Dwight. Don’t get me wrong, I think Anderson is one of the most intriguing prospects if he comes out this year due to his skill set along with the mean streak he’s developing, I just wouldn’t put him in the lottery just yet.

[clarkpkParticipant]

 Jones is much more of a true 4 than MKG is a true 3.  MKG can’t shoot or handle the ball at all, and is far too small to play PF.  Somehow, no one seemed to care about this.  Jones is 6’9 250, pretty typical size for an NBA PF. If he is a tweener, than so is David Lee.  At the end of the day, hyper athleticism clouds people’s judgement. Jones has average PF size and average PF athleticism, so he is "too small" on draft day.  MKG has average SF size and tremendous athleticism, so we ignore the fact he has no perimeter skills at all.  Anderson will likely get similar "tweener" treatment.

 

Anderson has improved his shooting a great deal this year.  I think he is a comparable shooter to Markieff Morris (who can create space without being a deadly shooter) and there is no reason to think he can’t progress from there.

[clarkpkParticipant]

 I like MKG a lot.  If he develops some type of go-to move on offense, he could become a minor star.  But if ever there was a guy without a position, it is him, and he went #2 overall, which is exactly where everyone projected him.  No one gives a poo what your position is when you can jump over small buildings.  

[SwaggyVCParticipant]

 I like him a lot as well but his jumper is killing him…. Its just so ugly, Shawn Marions jumpshot looks like Ray Allen in comparison.

[SwaggyVCParticipant]

 I like him a lot as well but his jumper is killing him…. Its just so ugly, Shawn Marions jumpshot looks like Ray Allen in comparison.

[clarkpkParticipant]

 I like MKG a lot.  If he develops some type of go-to move on offense, he could become a minor star.  But if ever there was a guy without a position, it is him, and he went #2 overall, which is exactly where everyone projected him.  No one gives a poo what your position is when you can jump over small buildings.  

[clarkpkParticipant]

 Jones is much more of a true 4 than MKG is a true 3.  MKG can’t shoot or handle the ball at all, and is far too small to play PF.  Somehow, no one seemed to care about this.  Jones is 6’9 250, pretty typical size for an NBA PF. If he is a tweener, than so is David Lee.  At the end of the day, hyper athleticism clouds people’s judgement. Jones has average PF size and average PF athleticism, so he is "too small" on draft day.  MKG has average SF size and tremendous athleticism, so we ignore the fact he has no perimeter skills at all.  Anderson will likely get similar "tweener" treatment.

 

Anderson has improved his shooting a great deal this year.  I think he is a comparable shooter to Markieff Morris (who can create space without being a deadly shooter) and there is no reason to think he can’t progress from there.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

You can’t be a stretch four if you can’t shoot the ball. Jones fell because he lacked a true position, people give him the dreaded 3/4 label and he just happened to fit perfectly at the 4 next to Dwight. Don’t get me wrong, I think Anderson is one of the most intriguing prospects if he comes out this year due to his skill set along with the mean streak he’s developing, I just wouldn’t put him in the lottery just yet.

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

He is a PG.  He has been once since i first heard of him in HS.  Last year, they didn’t let him play PG and he struggled.  The same will happen in the NBA.  If a team drafts him and expects him to be a SF or a PF, they will ruin his career.  

We need to stop thinking of him as Lamar Odom or Chandler Parsons and need to realise that he is Shaun Livingston.

[druneave3Participant]

 Thank you. That is his position and where he gives your team the most value and chance to win. Great passer with ability to see over the top. Despite being slo-mo can get in the paint with his craftiness and use of his body. I have flipped on this guy from my original thoughts on this guy. I still really worry about his 1 on 1 defensive capabilities but he has shown a good awareness on that end of the floor and good hands/length that creates deflections/steals/blocks. I feel pretty confident that there is a spot for him in the league given his unique ablities. 

He is not a 3 or stretch 4. Deadly sin got the comp right here with Livingston. 

 

[druneave3Participant]

 Thank you. That is his position and where he gives your team the most value and chance to win. Great passer with ability to see over the top. Despite being slo-mo can get in the paint with his craftiness and use of his body. I have flipped on this guy from my original thoughts on this guy. I still really worry about his 1 on 1 defensive capabilities but he has shown a good awareness on that end of the floor and good hands/length that creates deflections/steals/blocks. I feel pretty confident that there is a spot for him in the league given his unique ablities. 

He is not a 3 or stretch 4. Deadly sin got the comp right here with Livingston. 

 

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

He is a PG.  He has been once since i first heard of him in HS.  Last year, they didn’t let him play PG and he struggled.  The same will happen in the NBA.  If a team drafts him and expects him to be a SF or a PF, they will ruin his career.  

We need to stop thinking of him as Lamar Odom or Chandler Parsons and need to realise that he is Shaun Livingston.

[prophetmeirParticipant]

Hes a taller but slower evan turner, would love to see chicago get him

[prophetmeirParticipant]

Hes a taller but slower evan turner, would love to see chicago get him

[juves4783Participant]

i compare him to boris diaw.  great passer, smooth handles, jumper is pretty meh, footspeed and agility is okay but will have trouble guarding sf’s at the next level.  i think he’s got the talent to stay in the league and be a capable role player.  

[clarkpkParticipant]

 But Diaw got fat and lazy in the middle of his career, and really derailed what could have been a good run. At 23, Diaw looked like he was going to be an excellent player, then he discovered the Super Size menu.  If Anderson can start his career in that manner, but with more drive, he could be a high quality player.

[clarkpkParticipant]

 But Diaw got fat and lazy in the middle of his career, and really derailed what could have been a good run. At 23, Diaw looked like he was going to be an excellent player, then he discovered the Super Size menu.  If Anderson can start his career in that manner, but with more drive, he could be a high quality player.

[juves4783Participant]

i compare him to boris diaw.  great passer, smooth handles, jumper is pretty meh, footspeed and agility is okay but will have trouble guarding sf’s at the next level.  i think he’s got the talent to stay in the league and be a capable role player.  

[Jester87Participant]

Fat Diaw is a lot stronger and probably also a better athlete. And he plays both sides of the court. UCLA constantly hide Anderson on D and he needs the ball in his hands all the time to be effective on offense. Last year when he had to play off the ball more he struggled and he was playing college ball, not Nba. I can’t really see how an Nba team could’ve him playing constantly with the ball. He has intriguing skills and could be a very nice complementary player, but he really needs to be in the right place, if he goes to a team with many ball handlers and he’s asked to play only off the ball I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends out of the league after 2 years.

[Jester87Participant]

Fat Diaw is a lot stronger and probably also a better athlete. And he plays both sides of the court. UCLA constantly hide Anderson on D and he needs the ball in his hands all the time to be effective on offense. Last year when he had to play off the ball more he struggled and he was playing college ball, not Nba. I can’t really see how an Nba team could’ve him playing constantly with the ball. He has intriguing skills and could be a very nice complementary player, but he really needs to be in the right place, if he goes to a team with many ball handlers and he’s asked to play only off the ball I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends out of the league after 2 years.

[WolfRobParticipant]

 Wait…. Gary Harris isn’t considered skilled? Ha… He’s so smooth.

[WolfRobParticipant]

 Wait…. Gary Harris isn’t considered skilled? Ha… He’s so smooth.

[apb540Participant]

I think Kyle Anderson’s best role might be coming off the bench as a 6th man. He could come in and play alongside the starting PG for a few mins, then get some run as the primary ball-handler for a few mins. It’s quite clear that this kid needs the ball in his hands in order to succeed.

[apb540Participant]

I think Kyle Anderson’s best role might be coming off the bench as a 6th man. He could come in and play alongside the starting PG for a few mins, then get some run as the primary ball-handler for a few mins. It’s quite clear that this kid needs the ball in his hands in order to succeed.

[Lafferty DanielParticipant]

How can Anderson be a PG in the NBA if he can’t guard them?  

[Lafferty DanielParticipant]

How can Anderson be a PG in the NBA if he can’t guard them?  

[BlazermannParticipant]

Being a point is not about who your going to guard , its Abt running your team. U guys Forget magic gels 2s and 3s most or thé time

[BlazermannParticipant]

Being a point is not about who your going to guard , its Abt running your team. U guys Forget magic gels 2s and 3s most or thé time

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Of course, Kyle needs the ball in his hands… he has to be the main playmaker in order to succeed.

Btw. Magic could defend every position (he wasn’t elite though), even Center like the finals on his rookie year… but he mostly defended PGs, which is why he’s always been listed as a PG unlike Lebron (who truly is a Point Forward).

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Of course, Kyle needs the ball in his hands… he has to be the main playmaker in order to succeed.

Btw. Magic could defend every position (he wasn’t elite though), even Center like the finals on his rookie year… but he mostly defended PGs, which is why he’s always been listed as a PG unlike Lebron (who truly is a Point Forward).

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

Listen ,i really like Anderson and intrigued by his skillset as well, but his draft ceiling is in the 20s. his lack of athleticism,foot speed,and lateral quickness will not allow him to enter the lottery no matter how much he produces this year in UCLA.  he’s so slow that his HS coach gave him the nickname " SlowMo" Lol.

like someone here pointed out, you actually have to shot the ball to be a stretch 4 LOL. Anderson isnt consistent enough with his jumper. 

He played the 3 last year and struggled so that should out an end to the " he could play the 3" discussions.

Also, i could tell you’ve never seen Gary Harris play because he’s skilled. he plays both ends of the floor and is an exceptional player. he deserves to be taken in the lottery this year.

 

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

Listen ,i really like Anderson and intrigued by his skillset as well, but his draft ceiling is in the 20s. his lack of athleticism,foot speed,and lateral quickness will not allow him to enter the lottery no matter how much he produces this year in UCLA.  he’s so slow that his HS coach gave him the nickname " SlowMo" Lol.

like someone here pointed out, you actually have to shot the ball to be a stretch 4 LOL. Anderson isnt consistent enough with his jumper. 

He played the 3 last year and struggled so that should out an end to the " he could play the 3" discussions.

Also, i could tell you’ve never seen Gary Harris play because he’s skilled. he plays both ends of the floor and is an exceptional player. he deserves to be taken in the lottery this year.

 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 They always say rebounding is a skill that translates to the NBA- which bodes well for Anderson since he has always done well in that area. That being said, I have a hard time visualizing Slo-Mo tearing down boards in the NBA. He’s not uber wide like a David Lee or Blair, nor is he a great leaper. 

I see Anderson as a complicated asset. He is an intriguing player who brings a lot to the table. But if he’s drafted by a team with a simplistic offense that runs few plays (i.e Rockets, Thunder)- Anderson will really struggle. If a cerebral team drafts him, his unique skillset will truly glow. (i.e Spurs, Mavs). 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 They always say rebounding is a skill that translates to the NBA- which bodes well for Anderson since he has always done well in that area. That being said, I have a hard time visualizing Slo-Mo tearing down boards in the NBA. He’s not uber wide like a David Lee or Blair, nor is he a great leaper. 

I see Anderson as a complicated asset. He is an intriguing player who brings a lot to the table. But if he’s drafted by a team with a simplistic offense that runs few plays (i.e Rockets, Thunder)- Anderson will really struggle. If a cerebral team drafts him, his unique skillset will truly glow. (i.e Spurs, Mavs). 

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

 i’d aso like to point out,the chandler parsons comparisons is horrible lol.

Parsons is athletic, a good defender,and could shoot.

Anderson is not athletic,cant defend and doesnt shot like Parsons.

 

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

 i’d aso like to point out,the chandler parsons comparisons is horrible lol.

Parsons is athletic, a good defender,and could shoot.

Anderson is not athletic,cant defend and doesnt shot like Parsons.

 

[natevalParticipant]

Anderson was great again last night. Everyone knocks his shooting but haven’t we seen it get a lot better this year? He has a %.494 fg and %.524 from deep he has definately improved and isn’t that what we want to see in a young prospect a guy improve from year to year?

He does a lot well and I think he would be a perfect fit in Boston with coach Stevens. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think he is going to become an all star but if he is taken in the 20’s he will find a role on a team. A good glue guy which all teams need. My concern I have with Anderson is his defense, how will he match up with some guys in the NBA? Anyone have any thoughts on his defense?  

[natevalParticipant]

Anderson was great again last night. Everyone knocks his shooting but haven’t we seen it get a lot better this year? He has a %.494 fg and %.524 from deep he has definately improved and isn’t that what we want to see in a young prospect a guy improve from year to year?

He does a lot well and I think he would be a perfect fit in Boston with coach Stevens. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think he is going to become an all star but if he is taken in the 20’s he will find a role on a team. A good glue guy which all teams need. My concern I have with Anderson is his defense, how will he match up with some guys in the NBA? Anyone have any thoughts on his defense?  

[theballerwayParticipant]

If he was on a team with a shooting pg like – Irving, or even Knight he could be effective operating essentially as a pg by initiating half court offenseor being the second pass facilitor. Basically though it comes down to team personel, if he has shooters around him some competent rim protectors he has a chance to thrive. At what level I dont know but definately as a starter. He cant be much slower than say Jared Dudley who I see as a position defender at the 3. He does need to furthr develop his shooting (like most prospects) for when times when he inevidably has to play off the ball in stretches. Based on the progress from this season to last there’s no reason to think the shot wont continue to improve.

Id take him anywhere from say I want to say 11 onwards, realistically 13/14 obviously depending on needs and who else is on the board. This is based on the quality of the draft. If this version of Anderson were in last years draft surely hes top 10 so thats relative.

[theballerwayParticipant]

If he was on a team with a shooting pg like – Irving, or even Knight he could be effective operating essentially as a pg by initiating half court offenseor being the second pass facilitor. Basically though it comes down to team personel, if he has shooters around him some competent rim protectors he has a chance to thrive. At what level I dont know but definately as a starter. He cant be much slower than say Jared Dudley who I see as a position defender at the 3. He does need to furthr develop his shooting (like most prospects) for when times when he inevidably has to play off the ball in stretches. Based on the progress from this season to last there’s no reason to think the shot wont continue to improve.

Id take him anywhere from say I want to say 11 onwards, realistically 13/14 obviously depending on needs and who else is on the board. This is based on the quality of the draft. If this version of Anderson were in last years draft surely hes top 10 so thats relative.

[A.M.G.Participant]

 What position can he defend at the NBA level? We can see that he’s a playmaker and can rebound, but does he have the lateral quickness to check NBA guards and wings? Does he have the strength, or can he develop the strength, to check NBA power forwards? He’s intriguing, but he is a below average athlete at the NBA level.

[A.M.G.Participant]

 What position can he defend at the NBA level? We can see that he’s a playmaker and can rebound, but does he have the lateral quickness to check NBA guards and wings? Does he have the strength, or can he develop the strength, to check NBA power forwards? He’s intriguing, but he is a below average athlete at the NBA level.

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