[festar35Participant]

I grew up with bball when Jordan and Miller were the guys doing there thing and reqlly through an age of SG’s being at qn elite level.

Guys like Kobe, Allen, Pierce, McGrady, Carter, Iverson etc and it makes me wonder when we will see awesome SG’s like this again.

There was Wade in the middle, but now there is some talent at SG and I wonder how far and who can develop to elite levels.

Guys like Harden (pretty much there offensively), Derozan, Stephenson, Beal, Thompson are all young guards and very useful with a lot of room to grow.

Can anyone bring a return to form for this position in the NBA?

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

Jeremy Lamb has a chance and I’m really high on James Young being a star in the league in 3 or 4 years.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

Jeremy Lamb has a chance and I’m really high on James Young being a star in the league in 3 or 4 years.

[Sewok15Participant]

Reggie Miller averaged 20+ points 6 seasons in his NBA career. I think guys like Derozen, Thompson and Beal could all reach that level. Aaron Afflalo is scoring 20 a game this season and is also a much better defender than Miller ever was..will he ever be remembered on that level…of course not. That isn’t to say there aren’t a bunch of good SG’s in the league now it is just hard to compare them to the guys we grew up watching.

I really like the SG position in this coming draft. I know guys like Smart, Exum and LaVine are all considered PG prospects but they all have the skillset to play SG in the right situation. I think there are a lot of under the radar SG’s who will be really good. I can see Gary Harris being a future all star and James Young has huge potential. If you look at the end of the fiirst round there are a bunch of guys who will have good NBA careers like Nick Johnson, Jabari Brown, CJ Wilcox and Lamar Patterson. It isn’t likely we will be reliving the hayday of SG’s like the 90’s but there is still a ton of talent at the position

[festar35Participant]

Reggie was more than just a scorer, he was one of the best clutch players in the history of the NBA. He was a guy where the boxscore didn’t tell the whole story.

[Sewok15Participant]

Don’t get me wrong Miller was great and deserves to be in the HOF…however if it wasn’t for the battles with Bulls and Knicks (most notably Spike Lee) he would just be a skinnier Mitch Richmond.

[Sewok15Participant]

Don’t get me wrong Miller was great and deserves to be in the HOF…however if it wasn’t for the battles with Bulls and Knicks (most notably Spike Lee) he would just be a skinnier Mitch Richmond.

[Jester87Participant]

"If it wasn’t for the battles with Bulls and Knicks…" it’s not like you’re saying if it wasn’t for a lucky shot. He used to kill it in the playoffs. One of the greatest clutch scorers ever. He wasn’t the most versatile player, but he’s one of the best all time in his go to skills (off the ball movement, shot, scoring off screens) and one of the greatest competitors ever. Comparing him to Derozan or Afflalo just because they also average 20 ppg is flat out insulting to the story and the spirit of the game. And I’m a great Afflalo fan, but people should stop using stats to compare players on totally different categories. Stackhouse averaged more than 30 ppg once and was a consistent 20 ppg scorer for most of his career. Still I wouldn’t think his importance in the history of basketball is comparable to many players that never averaged 25 ppg in a single season.

[Jester87Participant]

"If it wasn’t for the battles with Bulls and Knicks…" it’s not like you’re saying if it wasn’t for a lucky shot. He used to kill it in the playoffs. One of the greatest clutch scorers ever. He wasn’t the most versatile player, but he’s one of the best all time in his go to skills (off the ball movement, shot, scoring off screens) and one of the greatest competitors ever. Comparing him to Derozan or Afflalo just because they also average 20 ppg is flat out insulting to the story and the spirit of the game. And I’m a great Afflalo fan, but people should stop using stats to compare players on totally different categories. Stackhouse averaged more than 30 ppg once and was a consistent 20 ppg scorer for most of his career. Still I wouldn’t think his importance in the history of basketball is comparable to many players that never averaged 25 ppg in a single season.

[Sewok15Participant]

I realize all of what you are saying is true…but from a strictly numbers standpoint he isn’t that much better than a lot of guys who aren’t remembered nearly as fondly. He didn’t win a championship so for all his clutch work he didn’t win a ring. I was actually at the Game one opening round 2001 in Philly when he beat the Sixers with a buzzer beater…of course Philly went on to win the series and go to the finals but I know all about his clutchness.

[Sewok15Participant]

I realize all of what you are saying is true…but from a strictly numbers standpoint he isn’t that much better than a lot of guys who aren’t remembered nearly as fondly. He didn’t win a championship so for all his clutch work he didn’t win a ring. I was actually at the Game one opening round 2001 in Philly when he beat the Sixers with a buzzer beater…of course Philly went on to win the series and go to the finals but I know all about his clutchness.

[festar35Participant]

Reggie was more than just a scorer, he was one of the best clutch players in the history of the NBA. He was a guy where the boxscore didn’t tell the whole story.

[Sewok15Participant]

Reggie Miller averaged 20+ points 6 seasons in his NBA career. I think guys like Derozen, Thompson and Beal could all reach that level. Aaron Afflalo is scoring 20 a game this season and is also a much better defender than Miller ever was..will he ever be remembered on that level…of course not. That isn’t to say there aren’t a bunch of good SG’s in the league now it is just hard to compare them to the guys we grew up watching.

I really like the SG position in this coming draft. I know guys like Smart, Exum and LaVine are all considered PG prospects but they all have the skillset to play SG in the right situation. I think there are a lot of under the radar SG’s who will be really good. I can see Gary Harris being a future all star and James Young has huge potential. If you look at the end of the fiirst round there are a bunch of guys who will have good NBA careers like Nick Johnson, Jabari Brown, CJ Wilcox and Lamar Patterson. It isn’t likely we will be reliving the hayday of SG’s like the 90’s but there is still a ton of talent at the position

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

It’s a pretty big disservice to compare Reggie’s 20 PPG seasons with any that DeRozan or Beal will put up. Reggie was one of the best shooters in NBA history and was a far more efficient scorer than those guys.

Beal this year is putting up 16.7 PPG on a TS% of 49.5 and an EFG% of 47. DeRozan is having a career year this season with 22 PPG but has a TS% of 51.9 and an EFG% of 45.6. Miller over his entire 18 year career averaged 18.2 PPG with a TS% of 61.4 and an effective EFG% of 54.4.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

It’s a pretty big disservice to compare Reggie’s 20 PPG seasons with any that DeRozan or Beal will put up. Reggie was one of the best shooters in NBA history and was a far more efficient scorer than those guys.

Beal this year is putting up 16.7 PPG on a TS% of 49.5 and an EFG% of 47. DeRozan is having a career year this season with 22 PPG but has a TS% of 51.9 and an EFG% of 45.6. Miller over his entire 18 year career averaged 18.2 PPG with a TS% of 61.4 and an effective EFG% of 54.4.

[flopdownD]

 Not to mention the mental toughness he brought, prob his best attribute.

[flopdownD]

 Not to mention the mental toughness he brought, prob his best attribute.

[tuck243Participant]

The only SG star is James Harden. Outside of veterans Kobe and Wade, there aren’t any real stars at that position. They all moved to SF. For the record, James Young is a waste of a lottery pick.

[tuck243Participant]

The only SG star is James Harden. Outside of veterans Kobe and Wade, there aren’t any real stars at that position. They all moved to SF. For the record, James Young is a waste of a lottery pick.

[Darth DivacParticipant]

I don’t think we’ll ever see an NBA heyday like the 80’s/90’s again. EVERYBODY was playing in that era. Jordan, Magic, Larry, Hakeem, the Mailman, Gary Payton, Shaq, Dominique, Clyde, Stockton, Run TMC, Reggie Miller, Moses Malone, Barkley, David Rob, Isiah, Scottie, Ewing….

[Darth DivacParticipant]

I don’t think we’ll ever see an NBA heyday like the 80’s/90’s again. EVERYBODY was playing in that era. Jordan, Magic, Larry, Hakeem, the Mailman, Gary Payton, Shaq, Dominique, Clyde, Stockton, Run TMC, Reggie Miller, Moses Malone, Barkley, David Rob, Isiah, Scottie, Ewing….

[marcellousjrParticipant]

 I do believe that we are seeing great shooting guard play…its just so happens that they are playing the point guard position..Like Westbrook, Lillard, D will and Curry!! The league had changed and now the best scoring guard runs the show…

[marcellousjrParticipant]

 I do believe that we are seeing great shooting guard play…its just so happens that they are playing the point guard position..Like Westbrook, Lillard, D will and Curry!! The league had changed and now the best scoring guard runs the show…

[lakeshow22Participant]

 James Harden is the only superstar shooting guard, Eric Gordon would have been before his injuries. Bradley Beal has the best chance after and Victor Oladipo is the big sleeper. Demar Derozan is an all star but I don’t think he can reach superstar status.  There’s also been also been a lot of disappointments like Tyreke Evans and OJ Mayo who could have been there. With there talent and hype coming out of high school and college there is. NO reason y there not at least All Stars right now if not superstars

[lakeshow22Participant]

 James Harden is the only superstar shooting guard, Eric Gordon would have been before his injuries. Bradley Beal has the best chance after and Victor Oladipo is the big sleeper. Demar Derozan is an all star but I don’t think he can reach superstar status.  There’s also been also been a lot of disappointments like Tyreke Evans and OJ Mayo who could have been there. With there talent and hype coming out of high school and college there is. NO reason y there not at least All Stars right now if not superstars

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

K Mart is also a nice shooting guard, though I’m not saying he is a star. And lets ad Joe Johnson to the collection of aging star shooting guards. 

But yes, I agree, SG is the weakest position in the league. The Nets and Knicks are shifting to having two PGs on the court and I’d suggest a lot of other teams start considering that as well. Too many of today’s shooting guards model their game after MJ and Kobe without nearly the ability to actually hit the shots. The result is some high volume chuckers. Put a PG in that position who has a jumper and he will take better shots and look for his teammates.  

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

K Mart is also a nice shooting guard, though I’m not saying he is a star. And lets ad Joe Johnson to the collection of aging star shooting guards. 

But yes, I agree, SG is the weakest position in the league. The Nets and Knicks are shifting to having two PGs on the court and I’d suggest a lot of other teams start considering that as well. Too many of today’s shooting guards model their game after MJ and Kobe without nearly the ability to actually hit the shots. The result is some high volume chuckers. Put a PG in that position who has a jumper and he will take better shots and look for his teammates.  

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