[aktripleParticipant]

 Coming out of Indiana I was convinced that this kid was going to be a major player in the nba. I killed Sacramento for not taking him and instead choosing Stauskas as i believe that he would have been a perfect fit next to boogie.

But I look around the League and you see little to no mention of him anywhere. 

Is he a potential wasted top ten pick by charlotte or is this just him taking a few years to develop his game since he was raw coming out of IU

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 I think Charlotte probably took him because he fell in their lap.  They already had other bigs on the roster in Zeller, Jefferson, and Biyombo.  He also didn’t play very well in Summer League if I remember correctly.  It’ll probably be a couple years before we see if he’s a wasted pick or not.  He just didn’t have the opportunity to get playing time this year.  Biyombo is a restricted free agent and if he isn’t re-signed Vonleh could be in the rotation next season.

I thought the same thing about Vonleh slipping past the Kings.  He seemed like the perfect fit to play next to Cousins but instead they drafted another shooting guard after picking McLemore the year before.  However it’s been out there that the Kings owner pushed the team to draft Stauskas when they wanted  to take Elfrid Payton.  So it sounds like Vonleh wouldn’t have been their guy regardless.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 I think Charlotte probably took him because he fell in their lap.  They already had other bigs on the roster in Zeller, Jefferson, and Biyombo.  He also didn’t play very well in Summer League if I remember correctly.  It’ll probably be a couple years before we see if he’s a wasted pick or not.  He just didn’t have the opportunity to get playing time this year.  Biyombo is a restricted free agent and if he isn’t re-signed Vonleh could be in the rotation next season.

I thought the same thing about Vonleh slipping past the Kings.  He seemed like the perfect fit to play next to Cousins but instead they drafted another shooting guard after picking McLemore the year before.  However it’s been out there that the Kings owner pushed the team to draft Stauskas when they wanted  to take Elfrid Payton.  So it sounds like Vonleh wouldn’t have been their guy regardless.  

[natedogggParticipant]

He was injured for the first half of the season so he didn’t really get any time until the last few games.

Hopefully he will be healthy next season and get a crack at the rotation.

[natedogggParticipant]

He was injured for the first half of the season so he didn’t really get any time until the last few games.

Hopefully he will be healthy next season and get a crack at the rotation.

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Too soon to say his potential was wasted, the kid is only 19 years old and was injured part of his rookie season. Give him a couple years to grow and develop before making a decision on him, he has the talent.

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Too soon to say his potential was wasted, the kid is only 19 years old and was injured part of his rookie season. Give him a couple years to grow and develop before making a decision on him, he has the talent.

[omphalosParticipant]

 I think he’ll be a good player still, last year’s draft class had a bad run with injuries.

[omphalosParticipant]

 I think he’ll be a good player still, last year’s draft class had a bad run with injuries.

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Last year’s class didn’t get a whole lot of run. That’s part of it. I never whole-heartedly bought into Vonleh. Before the draft, a lot of people on here insisted he should’ve gone 4th. Many got upset when it was suggested otherwise. He had the physical tools, incredible length, respectable intensity, and a decent jumper. This year we have Myles Turner who is like Vonleh only with a superior shot and is a better shot blocker. Some sites have Turner going 12th and a lot of people on here are really against him (despite the similarity to Vonleh). Go figure. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Last year’s class didn’t get a whole lot of run. That’s part of it. I never whole-heartedly bought into Vonleh. Before the draft, a lot of people on here insisted he should’ve gone 4th. Many got upset when it was suggested otherwise. He had the physical tools, incredible length, respectable intensity, and a decent jumper. This year we have Myles Turner who is like Vonleh only with a superior shot and is a better shot blocker. Some sites have Turner going 12th and a lot of people on here are really against him (despite the similarity to Vonleh). Go figure. 

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 He got stuck behind a bunch of quality bigs. Al Jefferson is an All-NBA caliber back to the basket center, and don’t forget Charlotte has spent lottery picks on Biyombo and Zeller who are ahead of him on the depth chart currently. He will get some burn once his injury issues have fully cleared up and he has had a full offseason or two in an NBA environment

[Lotto StudParticipant]

"He got stuck behind a bunch of quality bigs."

[Lotto StudParticipant]

"He got stuck behind a bunch of quality bigs."

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 He got stuck behind a bunch of quality bigs. Al Jefferson is an All-NBA caliber back to the basket center, and don’t forget Charlotte has spent lottery picks on Biyombo and Zeller who are ahead of him on the depth chart currently. He will get some burn once his injury issues have fully cleared up and he has had a full offseason or two in an NBA environment

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Maybe it is the school.  Calbert Cheaney, Kirk Haston, Jared Jeffries, DJ White, they never played as well as people expected, or for where they were drafted.  More recently, C Zeller and E Gordon, they haven’t been big stars.

Zeller has improved from his first to second season, but as pick 4 he still has a long way to go to be worthy of that spot in his draft.  E Gordon, a 7th overall pick and close to being the only thing New Orleans have from trading Chris Paul.  Some injuries, but also 40% shooting three seasons ago, and only 13.4 points and 41% this season.

Unless Al Jefferson leaves as a free agent, there will only be minutes for one of Vonleh or Zeller to play well for the Hornets.  Both have potential.

Vonleh fans can voerlook his bad percentages as a rookie, and think about how he was close to a double-double in college and if he did get 35 minutes a game for the Hornets his numbers from his rookie season would translate into a double-double.  Also, when Vonleh’s NBA games of 20 or more minutes are looked at, overall he shot around 50% which is a very good number.

So maybe someone from IU who for some reason doesn’t play as well as expected, or maybe he is someone who needs minutes to play well.

 

 

  

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Maybe it is the school.  Calbert Cheaney, Kirk Haston, Jared Jeffries, DJ White, they never played as well as people expected, or for where they were drafted.  More recently, C Zeller and E Gordon, they haven’t been big stars.

Zeller has improved from his first to second season, but as pick 4 he still has a long way to go to be worthy of that spot in his draft.  E Gordon, a 7th overall pick and close to being the only thing New Orleans have from trading Chris Paul.  Some injuries, but also 40% shooting three seasons ago, and only 13.4 points and 41% this season.

Unless Al Jefferson leaves as a free agent, there will only be minutes for one of Vonleh or Zeller to play well for the Hornets.  Both have potential.

Vonleh fans can voerlook his bad percentages as a rookie, and think about how he was close to a double-double in college and if he did get 35 minutes a game for the Hornets his numbers from his rookie season would translate into a double-double.  Also, when Vonleh’s NBA games of 20 or more minutes are looked at, overall he shot around 50% which is a very good number.

So maybe someone from IU who for some reason doesn’t play as well as expected, or maybe he is someone who needs minutes to play well.

 

 

  

 

[kobyzParticipant]

 I write him off and said he is a bust from the start, just luck impulsivness and confident playing bb…

[kobyzParticipant]

 I write him off and said he is a bust from the start, just luck impulsivness and confident playing bb…

[sitlbitoParticipant]

 He got playing time at the end of the season in some meanngless games,and he was pretty good. I still think the Hornets were lucky on this draft honestly,they didn’t even work him out.

[sitlbitoParticipant]

 He got playing time at the end of the season in some meanngless games,and he was pretty good. I still think the Hornets were lucky on this draft honestly,they didn’t even work him out.

[HitsterParticipant]

 I agree that he almost fell to the Hornets so they took BPA, he was one of the youngest players in the draft last year so was seen as very much a long term prospect.

He only played 25 odd games last year due to injuries and the players ahead of him but he did show some nice flashes in the last few games and having the chance to work with Pat Ewing in particular will really help his game.

I would not worry too much about his NBA future at this time.

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 I agree that he almost fell to the Hornets so they took BPA, he was one of the youngest players in the draft last year so was seen as very much a long term prospect.

He only played 25 odd games last year due to injuries and the players ahead of him but he did show some nice flashes in the last few games and having the chance to work with Pat Ewing in particular will really help his game.

I would not worry too much about his NBA future at this time.

 

 

[druneave3Participant]

Prior to the draft most thought his first year would be a redshirt because he wasn’t ready to compete physically at the next level. Like others have mentioned, a hernia sidelined him for the early part of the season. I was his biggest fan and still think he will be a more than solid pro. Still just 19. 

[druneave3Participant]

Prior to the draft most thought his first year would be a redshirt because he wasn’t ready to compete physically at the next level. Like others have mentioned, a hernia sidelined him for the early part of the season. I was his biggest fan and still think he will be a more than solid pro. Still just 19. 

[jaycee24Participant]

 You can’t write any player off after one year particularly one thats still a teenager and played sparingly on a team with a lack of cohesion in that frontcourt. Granted if I was making that pick I would have snatched up Lavine but I think MJ just feels the need to take guys from big programs because it feels safe. Also Charlotte had most likely hoped all along they would get Lance and wanted to get a guy that could space the floor a bit at the 4 position which makes sense considering they had hopes for the playoffs. I think if that frontcourt clears up and Vonleh gets time on the court he’ll be solid. I like him more so than Randle.

[jaycee24Participant]

 You can’t write any player off after one year particularly one thats still a teenager and played sparingly on a team with a lack of cohesion in that frontcourt. Granted if I was making that pick I would have snatched up Lavine but I think MJ just feels the need to take guys from big programs because it feels safe. Also Charlotte had most likely hoped all along they would get Lance and wanted to get a guy that could space the floor a bit at the 4 position which makes sense considering they had hopes for the playoffs. I think if that frontcourt clears up and Vonleh gets time on the court he’ll be solid. I like him more so than Randle.

[TrillaParticipant]

 Yeah can the Kings and Hornets please swap Vonleh and Stauskas. They are both much better fits on the other team, shouldve been that way from the start

[TrillaParticipant]

 Yeah can the Kings and Hornets please swap Vonleh and Stauskas. They are both much better fits on the other team, shouldve been that way from the start

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