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- Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 4:44am #64545
dbeal21ParticipantSo in this thread lets assume that the Thunder assume they are 100% losing Russell Westbrook and they need to trade him before he walks, which is actually very possible, sorry Thunder fans. Here are a few possible trades that could make sense for the Thunder. Which trade would you do and why?
TRADE1
Thunder Receive: Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, 2018 1st round pick
Celtics Receive: Russell Westbrook, Anthony Morrow
TRADE 2
Thunder Receive: Brandon Ingram, D’Angelo Russell, Louis Wlliams
Lakers Receive: Russell Westbrook
TRADE 3
Thunder Receive: Derrick Rose, Kristaps Porzinigis
Knicks Receive: Russell Westbrook, Victor Oladipo
TRADE 4
Thunder Receive: Zach LaVine, Ricky Rubio, Shabazz Muhammed, 2017 1st round pick
Timberwolves Receive: Russell Westbrook
TRADE 5
Thunder Receive: Kemba Walker, Frank Kaminsky, 2017 & 2018 1st round picks
Hornets Receive: Russell Westbrook, Domantas Sabonis
TRADE 6
Thunder Receive: Jahlil Okafor, Nerlens Noel, Furkan Korkmaz, Robert Covington
76ers Receive: Russell Westbrook, Mitch McGary
TRADE 7
Thunder Receive: Andre Iquodala, Patrick McCaw, Damian Jones, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, and 2025 1st round picks (30th overall)
Warriors Receive: Russell Westbrook LOL
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 4:51am #1080112
jabbar_medvedenkoParticipantYou can not trade consecutive first rounders due to the Stepien rule. And no point in trading half your franchise for a player who’s a free agent next year.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 4:51am #1080220
jabbar_medvedenkoParticipantYou can not trade consecutive first rounders due to the Stepien rule. And no point in trading half your franchise for a player who’s a free agent next year.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:00am #1080118
sheltwon3ParticipantNone of those trades make sense since Westbrook is a unrestricted free agent and there is not benefit for him to sign an extenstion. A team would be trading early for his bird rights so no way any team gives up much when the next draft is awesome and you know you have no chance to win this year with the super team GSW.
If Westbrook gets traded early no team is giving up that much that can resign him. Boston could do it somewhat and keep their core but no way they give up Smart, Bradley and picks. Smart and picks makes sense because Smart appears to be on his way out anyway and Celtics has picks to spare but giving up Bradley would could form a super defensive duo with Westbrook would be foolish.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:00am #1080226
sheltwon3ParticipantNone of those trades make sense since Westbrook is a unrestricted free agent and there is not benefit for him to sign an extenstion. A team would be trading early for his bird rights so no way any team gives up much when the next draft is awesome and you know you have no chance to win this year with the super team GSW.
If Westbrook gets traded early no team is giving up that much that can resign him. Boston could do it somewhat and keep their core but no way they give up Smart, Bradley and picks. Smart and picks makes sense because Smart appears to be on his way out anyway and Celtics has picks to spare but giving up Bradley would could form a super defensive duo with Westbrook would be foolish.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:00am #1080120
dbeal21ParticipantDisregard the consecutive picks than, and hopefully you understood that the Warriors trade was a joke.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:00am #1080228
dbeal21ParticipantDisregard the consecutive picks than, and hopefully you understood that the Warriors trade was a joke.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:21am #1080122
TyroberParticipantTrading Westbrook would normally be tough but with the cap the way it is now it will be harder than ever. The teams with assets to trade for him could simply keep them and try to sign him next year as a free agent and not give up anything because all those teams with assets will have capspace. If you had some kind of assurance he would stay it would be different but he has no reason to make any kind of commitment right now. As much as I do not want to see him walk away for nothing the Thunder might be better off keeping him and trying to lure a top free agent to play along side him next year since theyll had a ton of capspace since Durant is no longer there. Right now he looks like the star of the free agent class next year since he will be viewed at the most likely to switch teams. Curry, Durant, LeBron, Griffin, and Paul will all be free agents but I dont think any of them would be as likely as Westbrook is to leave for another team. The Thunder are just in a lose lose situation right now. If a team like the Celtics comes along and offers Smart and the Nets first rounders then you have to strongly consider it but I dont see a team offering their future for a possible 1 year rental.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:21am #1080230
TyroberParticipantTrading Westbrook would normally be tough but with the cap the way it is now it will be harder than ever. The teams with assets to trade for him could simply keep them and try to sign him next year as a free agent and not give up anything because all those teams with assets will have capspace. If you had some kind of assurance he would stay it would be different but he has no reason to make any kind of commitment right now. As much as I do not want to see him walk away for nothing the Thunder might be better off keeping him and trying to lure a top free agent to play along side him next year since theyll had a ton of capspace since Durant is no longer there. Right now he looks like the star of the free agent class next year since he will be viewed at the most likely to switch teams. Curry, Durant, LeBron, Griffin, and Paul will all be free agents but I dont think any of them would be as likely as Westbrook is to leave for another team. The Thunder are just in a lose lose situation right now. If a team like the Celtics comes along and offers Smart and the Nets first rounders then you have to strongly consider it but I dont see a team offering their future for a possible 1 year rental.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:35am #1080126
dbeal21ParticipantOk People lets assume its a sign and trade or like the Love trade Westbrook agrees to sign wherever he is traded long term. Don’t forget its Russell fricken Westbrook top 5 player in the league so teams will go crazy at a chance to have him…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:35am #1080234
dbeal21ParticipantOk People lets assume its a sign and trade or like the Love trade Westbrook agrees to sign wherever he is traded long term. Don’t forget its Russell fricken Westbrook top 5 player in the league so teams will go crazy at a chance to have him…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:51am #1080132
Andv1 WaitingParticipantAssuming they do move on from Russell-Hard to say it all depends on if Russ wants that Kobe franchise player challenge or not, but I could see Presti being a little more proactive this time none the less…See Harden/Ibaka trade when presti is backed into a corner for examples of what presti can do when asset chasing is needed…
TRADE1
Thunder Receive: Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, 2018 pick- for Russell and Anthony Morrow
Change 2 parts to this and I wouldn’t be fully against it..Change Jay Crowder for Jaylen brown and the 2018 pick for the 2017 brooklyn pick…As this works for both parties Celtics get their second star and The thunder get a haul of young cheap talent to start the rebuild with…
TRADE 2
Thunder Receive: Brandon Ingram, D’Angelo Russell, Louis Wlliams lakers receive Russell W
Remove Lou williams and this could work for both sides… Thunder do this as they get there replacement PG and K.D replacements..Lakers do this as they get their post Kobe star(who would probably resign there) while still having some depth..In Deng,Clarkson,Randle and to a less degree Nance..Saving Jim B’s job as they should get more wins/maybe the 8th seed lol…
Trade 3…No a injury prone player and Porzingas who honestly looks like he going to be injury prone…For two relatively durable athletic beasts..Knicks would love it OKC hangs up the phone…
Trade 4.No because of Victor O/Waiters wouldn’t work with Rubio(see victor and elfrid as example why) Zach is nice but OKC would have to many SG’s then…Thibs would love this deal though..They would be one piece away from challenging Warriors/contending big time…(Towns,Wiggins,Dunn and Westbrook yikes that would be athletic)
Trade 5:No those picks would be worth less as Hornets would be in the playoffs easy…Russ alone is worth more than Frank and Kemba…
Trade 6: LOL Lets trade for the one position we are set at ummm no thanks and without any picks …
Trade 7 Haha funny guy lol…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:51am #1080240
Andv1 WaitingParticipantAssuming they do move on from Russell-Hard to say it all depends on if Russ wants that Kobe franchise player challenge or not, but I could see Presti being a little more proactive this time none the less…See Harden/Ibaka trade when presti is backed into a corner for examples of what presti can do when asset chasing is needed…
TRADE1
Thunder Receive: Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, 2018 pick- for Russell and Anthony Morrow
Change 2 parts to this and I wouldn’t be fully against it..Change Jay Crowder for Jaylen brown and the 2018 pick for the 2017 brooklyn pick…As this works for both parties Celtics get their second star and The thunder get a haul of young cheap talent to start the rebuild with…
TRADE 2
Thunder Receive: Brandon Ingram, D’Angelo Russell, Louis Wlliams lakers receive Russell W
Remove Lou williams and this could work for both sides… Thunder do this as they get there replacement PG and K.D replacements..Lakers do this as they get their post Kobe star(who would probably resign there) while still having some depth..In Deng,Clarkson,Randle and to a less degree Nance..Saving Jim B’s job as they should get more wins/maybe the 8th seed lol…
Trade 3…No a injury prone player and Porzingas who honestly looks like he going to be injury prone…For two relatively durable athletic beasts..Knicks would love it OKC hangs up the phone…
Trade 4.No because of Victor O/Waiters wouldn’t work with Rubio(see victor and elfrid as example why) Zach is nice but OKC would have to many SG’s then…Thibs would love this deal though..They would be one piece away from challenging Warriors/contending big time…(Towns,Wiggins,Dunn and Westbrook yikes that would be athletic)
Trade 5:No those picks would be worth less as Hornets would be in the playoffs easy…Russ alone is worth more than Frank and Kemba…
Trade 6: LOL Lets trade for the one position we are set at ummm no thanks and without any picks …
Trade 7 Haha funny guy lol…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 6:06am #1080136
bankjungParticipantTrade no.7 are not happen
1. GSW trade draft 2017 to jazz
2. the rule of draft that team have to draft player in 1st round at least once time per 3 year.
3. team cannot trade future draft pick more than 7 year.
So, GSW can trade draft at 2018 2020 2021 2023 .
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 6:06am #1080244
bankjungParticipantTrade no.7 are not happen
1. GSW trade draft 2017 to jazz
2. the rule of draft that team have to draft player in 1st round at least once time per 3 year.
3. team cannot trade future draft pick more than 7 year.
So, GSW can trade draft at 2018 2020 2021 2023 .
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 6:34am #1080138
WinterSoldierParticipantWestbrook is going to go where he wants too go. The only trade he would except is to a elite team like Spurs and they are very unlikely to have great assets. Maybe you get a package of Dejounte Murray, Kyle Anderson, David Bertans, Livio Jean-Charles and Picks 2017 1st, 2019 1st, Then several 2nd rounders.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 6:34am #1080246
WinterSoldierParticipantWestbrook is going to go where he wants too go. The only trade he would except is to a elite team like Spurs and they are very unlikely to have great assets. Maybe you get a package of Dejounte Murray, Kyle Anderson, David Bertans, Livio Jean-Charles and Picks 2017 1st, 2019 1st, Then several 2nd rounders.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 7:02am #1080148
surveParticipantI am horrible at trade ideas so forgive me if I sound stupid…but I would give up Dragic for a 1 year rental of RWB. If they are successful…and no reason why they wouldnt be if Wade returns….then he could be interested in long term deal? Whiteside, Bosh, Wade, Winslow (wouldnt want to give up Justise, he looks promising) is pretty good and if they retain the bench guys RWB could make this a dangerous team. If Wade got his 20 mil then they would have to dump some salaries to make it work. What if Wade walks though? I’d be all over RWB.
Also, if only Eric Bledsoe wasnt so injury prone….he’d fit great with Dipo if the Suns put together a package for him.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 7:02am #1080256
surveParticipantI am horrible at trade ideas so forgive me if I sound stupid…but I would give up Dragic for a 1 year rental of RWB. If they are successful…and no reason why they wouldnt be if Wade returns….then he could be interested in long term deal? Whiteside, Bosh, Wade, Winslow (wouldnt want to give up Justise, he looks promising) is pretty good and if they retain the bench guys RWB could make this a dangerous team. If Wade got his 20 mil then they would have to dump some salaries to make it work. What if Wade walks though? I’d be all over RWB.
Also, if only Eric Bledsoe wasnt so injury prone….he’d fit great with Dipo if the Suns put together a package for him.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 7:22am #1080154
Reptilian MonkParticipantI like the Golden State trade, would Westbrook come off the bench or would Klay?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 7:22am #1080262
Reptilian MonkParticipantI like the Golden State trade, would Westbrook come off the bench or would Klay?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 7:43am #1080158
markfitz14ParticipantLakers since I think he would sign there anyway.
It might only take D Russell though. Lakers will just say why should I give you Ingram. I will just wait until 2017 and get him as a FA and trade Russell for a Veteran to help Westbrook.
Would love to see him go to the Celtics. Would get some ultimate revenge if they managed to meet and beat the GSW in the finals.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 7:43am #1080266
markfitz14ParticipantLakers since I think he would sign there anyway.
It might only take D Russell though. Lakers will just say why should I give you Ingram. I will just wait until 2017 and get him as a FA and trade Russell for a Veteran to help Westbrook.
Would love to see him go to the Celtics. Would get some ultimate revenge if they managed to meet and beat the GSW in the finals.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 8:49am #1080164
juves4783Participantespn insider had a similar article today.
#1
LAKERS get westbrook, adam, 2020 1st rd pick
THUNDER get russell, ingram, randle, williams and young
#2
CELTICS get westbrook
THUNDER get smart, crowder, amir and 2017 nets’ 1st rd
#3
KINGS get westbrook and singler
THUNDER get cousins and cauley-stein
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 8:49am #1080272
juves4783Participantespn insider had a similar article today.
#1
LAKERS get westbrook, adam, 2020 1st rd pick
THUNDER get russell, ingram, randle, williams and young
#2
CELTICS get westbrook
THUNDER get smart, crowder, amir and 2017 nets’ 1st rd
#3
KINGS get westbrook and singler
THUNDER get cousins and cauley-stein
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 8:53am #1080166
SmooveKRYPTParticipantThe Lakers are obvious at or near the top of the list. They probably won’t even have to move Ingram to seal the deal with Russ being in his last year. D’Lo, Lou, & Swaggy P (salary purposes) plus a conditional future first.
Another place you didn’t mention that could be a very likely suitor is PHX. Bledsoe + Warren + 1st rounder. They don’t have much to lose in a Westbrook trade scenario. One of Bled/Knight is going to be unhappy coming off the bench behind the other so at some point they’ll need to deal one. Even a 1 year of 1/2 year rental of Russ is better than anything else they’re likely to get. TJ Warren is really solid, but kind of a misfit with their roster and style of play in PHX. They have so many young players that they’d probably be okay with missing out on one year of adding another rookie. Best case scenario, Russ likes the city, training staff, and connects with coach Watson and decides to stay while they have money to add 2 all-star caliber forwards next ot him & Book next summer (Hayward/Gallo/Gay+ Blake/Milsap/Serge)
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 8:53am #1080274
SmooveKRYPTParticipantThe Lakers are obvious at or near the top of the list. They probably won’t even have to move Ingram to seal the deal with Russ being in his last year. D’Lo, Lou, & Swaggy P (salary purposes) plus a conditional future first.
Another place you didn’t mention that could be a very likely suitor is PHX. Bledsoe + Warren + 1st rounder. They don’t have much to lose in a Westbrook trade scenario. One of Bled/Knight is going to be unhappy coming off the bench behind the other so at some point they’ll need to deal one. Even a 1 year of 1/2 year rental of Russ is better than anything else they’re likely to get. TJ Warren is really solid, but kind of a misfit with their roster and style of play in PHX. They have so many young players that they’d probably be okay with missing out on one year of adding another rookie. Best case scenario, Russ likes the city, training staff, and connects with coach Watson and decides to stay while they have money to add 2 all-star caliber forwards next ot him & Book next summer (Hayward/Gallo/Gay+ Blake/Milsap/Serge)
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 9:17am #1080168
nill650ParticipantWestbrook and Sabonis to Houston for Beverly, Ariza and Beasley
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 9:17am #1080276
nill650ParticipantWestbrook and Sabonis to Houston for Beverly, Ariza and Beasley
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 10:12am #1080172
OllstarParticipantWestbrook is a top 5 player in his prime that is on the last year of his contract. The Magic got a decent haul for Dwight Howard when he was in a similar situation. The package included Elfrid Payton and Vucevic along with other talented prospects and picks. If the Lakers are not in the top 3 in next year’s draft they will also have to send their 2019 1st to the Magic.
We all know how that turned out for the Lakers. Thankfully they hedged their bets by putting conditions on the picks they sent and now are in a decent position to contend in the future.
I would put Westbrook’s trade value at 3 high lottery draft picks or equivalent.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 10:12am #1080280
OllstarParticipantWestbrook is a top 5 player in his prime that is on the last year of his contract. The Magic got a decent haul for Dwight Howard when he was in a similar situation. The package included Elfrid Payton and Vucevic along with other talented prospects and picks. If the Lakers are not in the top 3 in next year’s draft they will also have to send their 2019 1st to the Magic.
We all know how that turned out for the Lakers. Thankfully they hedged their bets by putting conditions on the picks they sent and now are in a decent position to contend in the future.
I would put Westbrook’s trade value at 3 high lottery draft picks or equivalent.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 10:56am #1080190
Meditated StatesParticipantHold on to the 1st round picks. Smart,Bradley,Crowder, top 5 pick? Naw
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 10:56am #1080298
Meditated StatesParticipantHold on to the 1st round picks. Smart,Bradley,Crowder, top 5 pick? Naw
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 11:10am #1080196
BiggysmallsParticipantIf Westbrook agreed to sign up long term in Boston, they clearly have the best package of assets to offer.
If I’m Ainge, I’m starting conversations with the 2017 Brooklyn picks, Brown and Smart.
You probably have to give up one of Crowder/Bradley, in which case I’d rather give up Crowder.
Westbrook would put Boston immediatly into the second best team in the East status and I think OKC would be well positioned to start their rebuild.
Smart-Oladipo-Brown-Kanter-Adams
Payne-Singler-Roberson-Sabonis-McGary/Collison
And then likely two top 7-8 picks in the 2017 which figures to be loaded. That’s certainly a drop from a team that could be the second or third best in the league, but it’s a heck of a start on a rebuild.
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 1:49pm #1080369
VRod305ParticipantHow many games do OKC win in the West with Victor Olidipo is by far their best player? They’ll be like a 35-win team until eternity unless they hit the Nets pick for No. 1 overall and get a true star (although I don’t think there is a franchise changer in that draft).
They would be better off trying to get Wiggins and the Wolves No. 1 in 2017 for him at the deadline.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 1:49pm #1080261
VRod305ParticipantHow many games do OKC win in the West with Victor Olidipo is by far their best player? They’ll be like a 35-win team until eternity unless they hit the Nets pick for No. 1 overall and get a true star (although I don’t think there is a franchise changer in that draft).
They would be better off trying to get Wiggins and the Wolves No. 1 in 2017 for him at the deadline.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 11:10am #1080304
BiggysmallsParticipantIf Westbrook agreed to sign up long term in Boston, they clearly have the best package of assets to offer.
If I’m Ainge, I’m starting conversations with the 2017 Brooklyn picks, Brown and Smart.
You probably have to give up one of Crowder/Bradley, in which case I’d rather give up Crowder.
Westbrook would put Boston immediatly into the second best team in the East status and I think OKC would be well positioned to start their rebuild.
Smart-Oladipo-Brown-Kanter-Adams
Payne-Singler-Roberson-Sabonis-McGary/Collison
And then likely two top 7-8 picks in the 2017 which figures to be loaded. That’s certainly a drop from a team that could be the second or third best in the league, but it’s a heck of a start on a rebuild.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 11:33am #1080202
joe2324Participantthe only trade I would do on your list is trade 2: The Thunder get a good young point guard and Ingram, both of which could potentially be younger versions of Durant and Westbrook. I think we’re all in agreement that the Thunder, a small market team, can’t screw around waiting on Westbrook because he’s going to bounce.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 11:33am #1080310
joe2324Participantthe only trade I would do on your list is trade 2: The Thunder get a good young point guard and Ingram, both of which could potentially be younger versions of Durant and Westbrook. I think we’re all in agreement that the Thunder, a small market team, can’t screw around waiting on Westbrook because he’s going to bounce.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 12:18pm #1080325
BiggysmallsParticipantYeah no question. Even if they get less than he’s worth, you have to move him at this point.
And there will be suitors, so please don’t come out and say "they have no leverage" like the Wolves didn’t with Love. There would be a bidding war on Westy, even if it is just for one guaranteed season. Teams like Boston, L.A…I’m sure Miami would be in there somehow, maybe Houston somehow – there are always teams that seem to not realize that they don’t have anything of worth – but there will be teams with enough hubris to think they can convince him to re up with them.
I think Boston would be a really good fit. They are in the East. They’ve got Horford and Thomas, and a bundle of assets that would make a deal make sense for both sides.
L.A. obviously has the two star-potential guys in Ingram and Russell, which would be a no-brainer if both are on the table. But they have no picks and future picks wouldn’t be worth much because with Westbrook, they’d recruit like crazy and become a playoff team on the fly.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 12:18pm #1080217
BiggysmallsParticipantYeah no question. Even if they get less than he’s worth, you have to move him at this point.
And there will be suitors, so please don’t come out and say "they have no leverage" like the Wolves didn’t with Love. There would be a bidding war on Westy, even if it is just for one guaranteed season. Teams like Boston, L.A…I’m sure Miami would be in there somehow, maybe Houston somehow – there are always teams that seem to not realize that they don’t have anything of worth – but there will be teams with enough hubris to think they can convince him to re up with them.
I think Boston would be a really good fit. They are in the East. They’ve got Horford and Thomas, and a bundle of assets that would make a deal make sense for both sides.
L.A. obviously has the two star-potential guys in Ingram and Russell, which would be a no-brainer if both are on the table. But they have no picks and future picks wouldn’t be worth much because with Westbrook, they’d recruit like crazy and become a playoff team on the fly.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 12:20pm #1080329
BiggysmallsParticipantSidebar: I love the crowd of people that say "Boston is giving up too much…"
Westbrook is a top-5 NBA player, in his prime. There is almost no such thing as too much. If he’s dangled in trade talks, teams will offer a lot. If Boston doesn’t, someone else would. It’s not complicated.
Boston could give up two of Smart, Crowder, Bradley, Brown along with those first round picks from Brooklyn and still be stable enough to make a run at the No. 2 seed in the East. With their current roster, they are probably the 4th or 5th best team still.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 12:20pm #1080221
BiggysmallsParticipantSidebar: I love the crowd of people that say "Boston is giving up too much…"
Westbrook is a top-5 NBA player, in his prime. There is almost no such thing as too much. If he’s dangled in trade talks, teams will offer a lot. If Boston doesn’t, someone else would. It’s not complicated.
Boston could give up two of Smart, Crowder, Bradley, Brown along with those first round picks from Brooklyn and still be stable enough to make a run at the No. 2 seed in the East. With their current roster, they are probably the 4th or 5th best team still.
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 1:45pm #1080367
VRod305ParticipantBoston fans are like my fellow Sixers fans. They overvalue these guys so much. Marcus Smart is garbage, but all their fans thing he is so great. It’s like Sixers fans that act like Noel is Anthony Davis.
Although I’m not sure what exactly it would take for Westbrook, if it’s Boston, it starts with Brown, the 2017 Nets pick and Bradley. They probably need more than that.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 1:45pm #1080259
VRod305ParticipantBoston fans are like my fellow Sixers fans. They overvalue these guys so much. Marcus Smart is garbage, but all their fans thing he is so great. It’s like Sixers fans that act like Noel is Anthony Davis.
Although I’m not sure what exactly it would take for Westbrook, if it’s Boston, it starts with Brown, the 2017 Nets pick and Bradley. They probably need more than that.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 1:30pm #1080359
mowestenParticipantWestbrook could completely change the race next year if OKC decides to shop him. They can easily create a bidding war simply by floating a potential trade to a team that could challenge for a title.
Crazy to to think they’ve gone from KD, Westbrook and HardOn to none of the three.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 1:30pm #1080251
mowestenParticipantWestbrook could completely change the race next year if OKC decides to shop him. They can easily create a bidding war simply by floating a potential trade to a team that could challenge for a title.
Crazy to to think they’ve gone from KD, Westbrook and HardOn to none of the three.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 2:57pm #1080394
Evan_MilbergParticipantOther ideas:
Trade 1: OKC trades Westbrook to Toronto for Lowry, Ross and a future first round pick.
Trade 2: OKC trades Westbrook to Charlotte for Walker, Zeller, Aaron Harrison and a 2017 second round pick.
Trade 3: OKC trades Westbrook to Boston for Thomas, Smart, Crowder and Olynyk.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 2:57pm #1080281
Evan_MilbergParticipantOther ideas:
Trade 1: OKC trades Westbrook to Toronto for Lowry, Ross and a future first round pick.
Trade 2: OKC trades Westbrook to Charlotte for Walker, Zeller, Aaron Harrison and a 2017 second round pick.
Trade 3: OKC trades Westbrook to Boston for Thomas, Smart, Crowder and Olynyk.
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:12pm #1080322
nill650ParticipantThe first one is not bad since they are probably shopping Ross anyway,plus that at least gives Thunder a very good pg to replace an elite one,and they get a solid wing defender that can shoot and probably would do well in a system that does’nt have a volume shooter like Derozan.
But, I doubt Toronto would want to risk screwing up thier chemistry for a player who probably is a one year rental,maybe if Lowry was’nt coming off a career season, esp in a year when Toronto still is not a lock to be in the top 2 in the East anyway.But if they did Westbrook easily makes the Raptors a lock for the 2 seed behind Cleveland, and depending on the situation might give Westbrook the best opportunity to meet up against his former teamate in the Finals, esp if he did sign a deal to stay in Toronto after 16-17.
the 2nd 2 are not realistic value for losing Westbrook.
I got negd hard for my trade idea w/ Houston ( who would be happy to take Westbrook for a 1 yr rental) and Ariza fills a good amount of the void from losing Durant plus Beverley gives you similar level of defense as Westbrook.Not a great trade for either team, but realistic, if OKC really does try to move him. I don’t think they do.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:12pm #1080436
nill650ParticipantThe first one is not bad since they are probably shopping Ross anyway,plus that at least gives Thunder a very good pg to replace an elite one,and they get a solid wing defender that can shoot and probably would do well in a system that does’nt have a volume shooter like Derozan.
But, I doubt Toronto would want to risk screwing up thier chemistry for a player who probably is a one year rental,maybe if Lowry was’nt coming off a career season, esp in a year when Toronto still is not a lock to be in the top 2 in the East anyway.But if they did Westbrook easily makes the Raptors a lock for the 2 seed behind Cleveland, and depending on the situation might give Westbrook the best opportunity to meet up against his former teamate in the Finals, esp if he did sign a deal to stay in Toronto after 16-17.
the 2nd 2 are not realistic value for losing Westbrook.
I got negd hard for my trade idea w/ Houston ( who would be happy to take Westbrook for a 1 yr rental) and Ariza fills a good amount of the void from losing Durant plus Beverley gives you similar level of defense as Westbrook.Not a great trade for either team, but realistic, if OKC really does try to move him. I don’t think they do.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 3:26pm #1080402
NBAjunkie81Participantto do a Sign & Trade……… & Knowing that why would L.A. or N.Y. give up all that Treasure for guy they could just wait & sign for Nothing (like Golden State just did)
But, in the Spirit of the Post —- I think N.Y. & L.A. are the Only two options
& If I’m OKC, I’d luv to get either the Lakers deal for Russell & Ingram…… or the NY deal for Porzingy
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 3:26pm #1080289
NBAjunkie81Participantto do a Sign & Trade……… & Knowing that why would L.A. or N.Y. give up all that Treasure for guy they could just wait & sign for Nothing (like Golden State just did)
But, in the Spirit of the Post —- I think N.Y. & L.A. are the Only two options
& If I’m OKC, I’d luv to get either the Lakers deal for Russell & Ingram…… or the NY deal for Porzingy
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:44pm #1080332
PrettyBoyPeeWeeParticipantThe trade that makes too much sense Westbrook for Blake Griffin plus other pieces from each team, send them both back home its a win win.
0- Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2016 - 4:00am #1080370
Andv1 WaitingParticipantTwo reasons why it probably wouldn’t happen and it makes no sense:
LAC have CP3(who plays pg) and I don’t know how effective they would be longterm in the same backcourt…Unless you are suggesting the Clippers move CP3/don’t retain him next offseason…
and
No one knows the state of Blakes legs right now(quad tear) and if that broken hand he had recently will effect his shot mechanics…Which makes this to much of a risk right now to do for OKC,However OKC could try target blake in F/A if he proves he is fine next season,but if injuries are to much you can get something better for Russ instead…
So it makes no sense for either side…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2016 - 4:00am #1080483
Andv1 WaitingParticipantTwo reasons why it probably wouldn’t happen and it makes no sense:
LAC have CP3(who plays pg) and I don’t know how effective they would be longterm in the same backcourt…Unless you are suggesting the Clippers move CP3/don’t retain him next offseason…
and
No one knows the state of Blakes legs right now(quad tear) and if that broken hand he had recently will effect his shot mechanics…Which makes this to much of a risk right now to do for OKC,However OKC could try target blake in F/A if he proves he is fine next season,but if injuries are to much you can get something better for Russ instead…
So it makes no sense for either side…
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2016 - 5:44pm #1080445
PrettyBoyPeeWeeParticipantThe trade that makes too much sense Westbrook for Blake Griffin plus other pieces from each team, send them both back home its a win win.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2016 - 4:49am #1080391
Untouchable JParticipantBc of the pending FA no trade makes sense, HOWEVER, someone above made an interesting point re: the Spurs and Murray. Lets say its the trade deadline and Russ has maybe told OKC hes gonna dip and Murray is showing signs.
Murray and a future #1 for Westbrook? Hey its better than nothing if you’re OKC and if you’re SA worth the gamble of forcing him into your clubhouse, attracting him to the lore of SA & Pop, and a legit chance at an immediate title.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2016 - 4:49am #1080501
Untouchable JParticipantBc of the pending FA no trade makes sense, HOWEVER, someone above made an interesting point re: the Spurs and Murray. Lets say its the trade deadline and Russ has maybe told OKC hes gonna dip and Murray is showing signs.
Murray and a future #1 for Westbrook? Hey its better than nothing if you’re OKC and if you’re SA worth the gamble of forcing him into your clubhouse, attracting him to the lore of SA & Pop, and a legit chance at an immediate title.
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