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- Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 7:54am #61482
Mr. JewboyParticipantTT was drafted fourth a few years ago ahead of guys like Jonas V, Klay Thompson, the Marcus twins and Jimmy Butler, but hasn’t been all that great. He was allright his first few years and has seemed to reach his potential, which is a great energy guy, great offensive rebounder but not much of an offensive weapon and not too great on defense either, and only a 65% FT shooter.
Well anyways, the Cavs got one of the better players in the league at his position locked up for a long time so TT didnt play too much and was just alright. Then when K-love was injured in the playoffs, TT did a good job filling in for him, I think because Lebron works real well with players like him. So now he rejectd a 5 year 80 mil ( 16$ mil per year) contract saying he wants to get the max contract.
As a Cavs fan I really hope they dont bite and let him play out this year as a contract year and see what he can get in free agency. I dont think any team would want him to be even the 3th best player on their team, why pay him that much?
What do you guys think about TT’s decisions and what should the Cavs do?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 8:21am #1014881

sweaterflexParticipantThe Cavs are right to hold firm on their offer, but Thompson is probably also correct to look for the max. The free agent crop next summer is pretty weak (particularly relative to the amount of cap space available), so someone will likely overpay for Thompson. Tristan only really fits teams who have bigs that can shoot and protect the rim, which is a pretty slim list. The Cavs you honestly get 70% of Thompson’s production from somebody like Ian Mahinmi.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 8:21am #1014744

sweaterflexParticipantThe Cavs are right to hold firm on their offer, but Thompson is probably also correct to look for the max. The free agent crop next summer is pretty weak (particularly relative to the amount of cap space available), so someone will likely overpay for Thompson. Tristan only really fits teams who have bigs that can shoot and protect the rim, which is a pretty slim list. The Cavs you honestly get 70% of Thompson’s production from somebody like Ian Mahinmi.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 9:19am #1014887
32tn32ParticipantI believe he needs to be traded. If he goes into this year without getting full starter mins. His value will go down.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 9:19am #1014750
32tn32ParticipantI believe he needs to be traded. If he goes into this year without getting full starter mins. His value will go down.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 9:21am #1014891

llperezWould be surprised if he gets max. I mean the 16 mill per year he turned down for next season to play for the 7 mil qualifying offer means he’s losing about 9 million right there next season. On the other hand, maybe he’s not excited about staying in Cleveland as a backup and he legit wants to test market and see what else is out there even if he still only ends up getting a similar offer as the 80 mil the cavs are offering.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 9:21am #1014754

llperezWould be surprised if he gets max. I mean the 16 mill per year he turned down for next season to play for the 7 mil qualifying offer means he’s losing about 9 million right there next season. On the other hand, maybe he’s not excited about staying in Cleveland as a backup and he legit wants to test market and see what else is out there even if he still only ends up getting a similar offer as the 80 mil the cavs are offering.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 9:43am #1014898
GBeeParticipantYou gotta wonder if he would’ve accepted the offer if K.Love didn’t re-sign. Personally I just don’t think he wants to be a back up so he chose money + minutes over money + winning. Cavs don’t need him anyways. Bringing back Mozgov next offseason is the more pivotal move long term.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 9:43am #1014760
GBeeParticipantYou gotta wonder if he would’ve accepted the offer if K.Love didn’t re-sign. Personally I just don’t think he wants to be a back up so he chose money + minutes over money + winning. Cavs don’t need him anyways. Bringing back Mozgov next offseason is the more pivotal move long term.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 10:37am #1014910

Bankroll PJParticipantI would’t be surprised to see him in Toronto next year. They would pay him, but I don’t know how he’d fit next to Valanciunas since neither are a threat outside 10 ft
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 10:37am #1014772

Bankroll PJParticipantI would’t be surprised to see him in Toronto next year. They would pay him, but I don’t know how he’d fit next to Valanciunas since neither are a threat outside 10 ft
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 11:32am #1014786

ChoppyParticipantMozgov and the seemingly forgotten man on here, Anderson Varejao, will be able to cover the production of Thompson if he goes. He’s a nice young asset but not at max.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 11:32am #1014924

ChoppyParticipantMozgov and the seemingly forgotten man on here, Anderson Varejao, will be able to cover the production of Thompson if he goes. He’s a nice young asset but not at max.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 11:34am #1014788
PulseGlazerParticipantThe max for him is a waste, but, unless a really nice trade opens up, the Cavs should probably give it to him anyway. They’re capped out for the forseeable future, which makes him better than what else they could do with that money (i.e. pocket it).
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 11:34am #1014926
PulseGlazerParticipantThe max for him is a waste, but, unless a really nice trade opens up, the Cavs should probably give it to him anyway. They’re capped out for the forseeable future, which makes him better than what else they could do with that money (i.e. pocket it).
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 12:17pm #1014796
IlladelphParticipantTT turning down a 5/80 deal is plain dumb. As llperez pointed out, he will lose 9 mill this year (difference 16 mill and qual 7 mill), so it doesn’t really make sense. He fits well enough on a Cavs roster with Lebron who really likes TT. Kevin Love may not be around for long which would open up starter’s minutes for him. And even if he doesn’t start, he will play serious minutes.
I don’t really understand the move. The only way I can see his refusal of a 5/80 deal is if he and his agent feel that when the cap explodes next year that he will get significantly more than 18 mill per year from another team. Frankly I think 16 mill per year for TT is pretty generous.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 12:17pm #1014934
IlladelphParticipantTT turning down a 5/80 deal is plain dumb. As llperez pointed out, he will lose 9 mill this year (difference 16 mill and qual 7 mill), so it doesn’t really make sense. He fits well enough on a Cavs roster with Lebron who really likes TT. Kevin Love may not be around for long which would open up starter’s minutes for him. And even if he doesn’t start, he will play serious minutes.
I don’t really understand the move. The only way I can see his refusal of a 5/80 deal is if he and his agent feel that when the cap explodes next year that he will get significantly more than 18 mill per year from another team. Frankly I think 16 mill per year for TT is pretty generous.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 1:11pm #1014808

omphalosParticipantGM Lebron can’t be happy that TT isn’t following orders and re-signing.
I just don’t see a team that wants a pure energy guy at the max. Maybe Indiana if Myles Turner shows his range?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 1:11pm #1014946

omphalosParticipantGM Lebron can’t be happy that TT isn’t following orders and re-signing.
I just don’t see a team that wants a pure energy guy at the max. Maybe Indiana if Myles Turner shows his range?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 1:16pm #1014810

HitsterParticipantDidn’t the Cavs use up their designated player deal on Kyrie Irving so they would only be able to offer TT a 4 year deal which if we take the $16 million per year rumoured would be around $64 million over 4 years. If TT took a one year deal or any sort of deal with the Cavs then in theory he could sign a 5 year deal whenever that deal expired.
But I agree that he’d be leaving a lot of money on the table regardless of the length of his new deal if he only took a 1 year qualifying deal.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 1:16pm #1014948

HitsterParticipantDidn’t the Cavs use up their designated player deal on Kyrie Irving so they would only be able to offer TT a 4 year deal which if we take the $16 million per year rumoured would be around $64 million over 4 years. If TT took a one year deal or any sort of deal with the Cavs then in theory he could sign a 5 year deal whenever that deal expired.
But I agree that he’d be leaving a lot of money on the table regardless of the length of his new deal if he only took a 1 year qualifying deal.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 2:28pm #1014825
Memphisboy14ParticipantI remember when he was drafted. My jaw dropped because I thought the earliest he could possibly go was like at best 6th to the Wizards but most people including myself had him going in the 8-14 range. I thoughthe was a reach especially with Jonas Valanciunas on the board still. I still think he was drafted a few spots too early but he’s turned into a valuable player. I think if the Cavs could do it over again they wouldn’t have drafted him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 2:28pm #1014962
Memphisboy14ParticipantI remember when he was drafted. My jaw dropped because I thought the earliest he could possibly go was like at best 6th to the Wizards but most people including myself had him going in the 8-14 range. I thoughthe was a reach especially with Jonas Valanciunas on the board still. I still think he was drafted a few spots too early but he’s turned into a valuable player. I think if the Cavs could do it over again they wouldn’t have drafted him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 5:37pm #1014863
properbreaksParticipantThis has been really surprising to me. The money that they are offering him now, they are greatly overpaying him, and yet he wants more. I don’t get it. He’s a man on the boards, but he wouldn’t even start for half of the teams in the league. The funny part is, he doesn’t even start for them.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/23/2015 - 5:37pm #1015000
properbreaksParticipantThis has been really surprising to me. The money that they are offering him now, they are greatly overpaying him, and yet he wants more. I don’t get it. He’s a man on the boards, but he wouldn’t even start for half of the teams in the league. The funny part is, he doesn’t even start for them.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2015 - 1:06am #1015048
SandYeah TT has been a huge beneficiary of the Lebron Factor. Hes not a max. More like a 12m guy.
Hard to box a dude out when his sole job is to get rebounds and you need to help on Lebron.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2015 - 1:06am #1014911
SandYeah TT has been a huge beneficiary of the Lebron Factor. Hes not a max. More like a 12m guy.
Hard to box a dude out when his sole job is to get rebounds and you need to help on Lebron.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2015 - 5:49am #1015065

Robb_CParticipantThompson would be perfect for Portland
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2015 - 5:49am #1014927

Robb_CParticipantThompson would be perfect for Portland
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2015 - 1:10pm #1015136
VRod305ParticipantLeBron should have let Love walk and resigned Thompson, it’s obvious LeBron works much better with guys that play his way. He should have also traded Irving for more of a natural PG. It’s pretty clear that what they did in the Finals was better than the three of them. There is a reason Love and Irving have never won anything before LeBron.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2015 - 1:10pm #1014999
VRod305ParticipantLeBron should have let Love walk and resigned Thompson, it’s obvious LeBron works much better with guys that play his way. He should have also traded Irving for more of a natural PG. It’s pretty clear that what they did in the Finals was better than the three of them. There is a reason Love and Irving have never won anything before LeBron.
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