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  • #29648
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    Vivid5292
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     Who’s your top 5 of All-Time in the NBA? If 5 is too hard, give 10 instead. 

    My Top 5 in No Particular Order

    Magic Johnson

    Larry Bird

    Michael Jordan

    Shaquille O’Neal 

    Tim Duncan

    The other 5 in the top 10 would be

    Kobe Bryant

    Hakeem Olajuwon 

    Oscar Robertson 

    John Stockton 

    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 

    I didn’t include Lebron James simply because he hasn’t won anything yet. He competes with many of these guys as far as skills and stats are concerned, and he is probably even better than some of these guys in those regards. However, skills and stats mean nothing when you don’t win to prove their worth.  

    I included John Stockton because I give him the Jordan pass. He had to take on Jordan and those legendary Bulls in back to back years. Also, Stockton owns two records in the league that will never ever be closed to being reached. Those are probably the only records that will never get broken. 

    Thoughts? 

    List your Top 5 or 10

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  • #538064
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    Mr. Chicago
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    Bill Russell?

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  • #538066
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    cabbycab
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     I can only list player that I’ve watched in my generation ( ie no Robertson or Russell or Baylor ect… ).

    MJ

    Magic

    Duncan

    Barkely

    Olajuwan

     

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  • #538068
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    Mr. Chicago
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    Jordan

    Russell

    Kareem

    Magic

    Bird

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  • #538070
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    lukestine13
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     Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Karl Malone, The Pistol just to name a few

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  • #538071
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Wilt Chamberlain?

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  • #538072
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Wilt Chamberlain?

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  • #538076
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    blink3ebfan
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     My top 5 would be:

    1 Jordan

    2 Russell

    3 Wilt

    4 Kareem  

    5 Oscar Robertson

    My Next 5 would be

    6 Magic

    7 Bird

    8 Hakeem

    9 Shaq

    10 Duncan

     

    I know the Kobe lovers are going to hate but those above 10 players were simply better than him in my opinion. He probably would be 11 on my list. 

    As far as your list, leaving Wilt and Russell off are glaring ommissions. The case can be made that they played in an era where they were just physically superior to everyone else and that they would simply be average players today, but I believe that argument is moot. We can’t account for evolution in considering where we rank the players because that is subjective. We can only really look at how they performed against the competition in front of them since that is more objective. With that said, thats why I put Russell ahead of Wilt becuase when they faced each other Russell dominated him statistically and in end result.

    Also have to say that you are underrating Kareem a little by not having him in your top 5. He had the most unstoppable and suprisingly never again utilized shots of all time. He was so unique and so unstoppable. For a big man to be as productive and dominant as he was for as long as he was is incredible.

    Stockton in the top 10 is also a little far fetched for me. Don’t get me wrong, he’s an all time great. I’d put him in my top 30 probably, but he isnt top 10. He wasn’t the best player on his team ever, let alone in the top 5 in the league. It’s hard to put a player like that in the top 10 players of all time.

    Love the subject though and your list is pretty solid.  

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  • #538078
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    Vivid5292
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     I left some of these guys out just because of how tight the list was. It was my opinion too. I made the mistake on Bill Russell of course. He has the most rings ever of course. But which center do you replace him with on my list and could honestly say he’ll outplay them in their primes? It’s too hard to me, but I’m go with the safe choices to say that Shaq was just too dominant, Hakeem was just too skillful and deceptive, and Kareem’s resume should do all the talking. I’m not taking away from Bill Russell or anything, but his time was different and Idk if he could challenge any of these guys really, at least the centers. You could argue the same for Oscar Robertson, but that would be my mistake and I admit. However, I would then take off Oscar and replace him with Bill. But, again, its kinda hard to take off a guy who did average a Triple double.

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  • #538080
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    lukestine13
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     second leading scorer of all time  wtf. Sure he never won a title but he and Stockton ran into MJ and those bulls.  Don’t get me started on game 6 of the 98 finals we were robbed i tell ya. but seriously wtf.

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  • #538081
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    blink3ebfan
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     Look at the argument I made regarding comparing players from different eras. Its impossible to do so since we don’t have any imperical evidence. Rather we should look at what they did in their era. Russell did more in his era than shaq or hakeem or even kareem did. Evolution is an inevitability so we shouldn’t account for that. If we did than I agree the more modern players should be in the top 10 because they are just so much more physically superior to those from the past

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  • #538085
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    Memphis Madness
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    1. Michael Jordan
    2. Wilt Chamberlain
    3. Magic Johnson
    4. Shaq
    5. Kareem
    6. Larry Bird
    7. Bill Russell
    8. Oscar Robertson
    9. Tim Duncan
    10. Kobe Bryant
    11. Hakeem Olajuwon
    12. Jerry West
    13. Elgin Baylor
    14. Moses Malone
    15. John Stockton
    16. Dr. J
    17. Karl Malone
    18. Scottie Pippen
    19. Bob Cousy
    20. LeBron James
    21. George Mikan
    22. John Havlicek
    23. Bob Petit
    24. Jason Kidd
    25. Isiah Thomas
    26. David Robinson
    27. Walt Frazier
    28. Dirk
    29. Kevin McHale
    30. Kevin Garnett
    31. Dominique Wilkins
    32. Gary Payton
    33. Clyde Drexler
    34. Dennis Rodman
    35. Dywane Wade
    36. Elvin Hayes
    37. George Gervin
    38. Patrick Ewing
    39. Reggie Miller
    40. Earl Monroe
    41. Sam Jones
    42. Tiny Archibald
    43. Allen Iverson
    44. Willis Reed
    45. Dave Debucshere
    46. Robert Parish
    47. James Worthy
    48. Steve Nash
    49. Joe Dumars
    50. Bernard King

    honorable mention: Chris Mullin, Dwight Howard, Shawn Kemp, Dikembe Mutombo, Chris Paul, Dennis Johnson, Dave Cowens

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    • #538203
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      MJBrown
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      You’ve clearly put a lot of thought into this project of yours so I won’t be too picky even though we would have some major differences evaluated these players’ careers. But I have to ask you one question. How on earth does Iverson fall all the way down to 43? You could easily make an arguement that he is top 5 SG of all time (please don’t tell me he’s a point guard) in a group with Jordan, Kobe and West. There is absolutely no way that Dwayne Wade at this point in his career should be above Allen Iverson (and I’m nowhere close to being and AI fan). Just my opinion.

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  • #538115
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    Chilbert arenas
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    ^Shaq above Duncan and Russell huh…

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  • #538143
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    Ed Ziti
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    I respect the knowledge of basketball fans on this site.  However, I wish many of you guys had seen Dr. J play the game.  He was that good!

    PF Duncan

    SF Dr. J

    C Kareem

    PG Stockton

    SG Jordan

     

     

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    • #538149
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      capecodder
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       You have to be under 50 to omit either Robertson or Russell

       

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  • #538150
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    fennisdembo
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    1. jordan

    2. magic

    3. bird

    4. olajuwon

    5. thomas

    6. o’neal

    7. duncan

    8. garnett

    9. barkley

    10. rodman

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  • #538151
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    delfam
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     Bill Russell is probably the greatest defensive player of all-time, but he is not top 5. He only averaged around 16ppg which is not very good considering the competition he was going against and his height.

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  • #538152
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    adum
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    No particular order
    Hakeem O
    Pistol Pete Maravich
    Manute Bol
    Reggie Miller
    Jason Williams (on kings)

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  • #538156
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    mj23mj23bestever
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    jordan russell magic bird n the big o

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  • #538170
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    MJBrown
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    Jordan

    Russell

    Robertson

    Abdul-Jabbar

    Chamberlin

     

    next 5:

    Shaq

    Magic

    Bird

    Kobe

    Barkley

     

    next 5:

    Karl Malone

    Elgin Baylor

    Tim Duncan

    Hakeem

    Jerry West

    Final 5:

    Allen Iverson

    Moses Malone

    Lebron James

    John Havlicek

    Walt Frazier

     

    This is really tough with so many legends, but I’ll stick with this as a top 20

     

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  • #538175
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    JoeWolf1

    My top 5 in order

     1. Jordan

    2. Kareem

    3. Magic

    4. Wilt

    5. Bird

    Not Far Behind

    Russell, Robertson, Malone, Malone, Erving, O’Neil, Olajuwon, Stockton

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  • #538181
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    kevnix5
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    Top 5 players in NBA History (not talent wise but what they did during their time in the league)

    1. Jordan (GOAT)

    2. Russell (can’t argue with the championships, winners don’t care about numbers)

    3. Wilt (not the greatest winner but nobody will ever score 100 again and yes I know the competition wasn’t nearly as good as it is now)

    4. Tim Duncan (greatest power forward of all time, one of the most fundamental and he’s won championships)

    5. Magic (6’8" Point Guard, defended mulitiple positions and on offense played multiple positions)

    Top 5 players in terms of Talent

    1. Jordan

    2. Kobe (not a Kobe fan in the least bit but seriously who else is dropping 80+ in today’s game)

    3. Oscar Robertson (triple-double for a season, enough said)

    4. Hakeem Olajuwon (best all around big man to ever play in the NBA)

    5. Lebron James (this is only based on talent, not based on accomplishments)

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  • #538230
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    boxn1
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    MJ

    Larry Legend

    The Dream

    Big fundamental

    Magic

    Black Mamba

    Zeke

    Round Mound of rebound

    Human Highlight film

    MDE

     

     

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