[TRC1991Participant]

ok so basically i’d just like to say in all my life of watching the NBA draft i have NEVER heard more complaints about a team drafting a guy in the 2nd round who averaged 22 pts and 9 rebounds per game in college…for a team playing in a major conference…theres hardly been any complaints about the knicks taking rautins (short white shooting guard) yet people seem to hate new york taking the 6’7” swingman from stanford….for all the bitching about fields you’d think new york had drafted pape sy or ryan reid…

weird, nobody seemed to care that ryan reid from florida state who averaged 5 pts, 4 rebounds got drafted….

give landry fields a chance, i dont know if he’ll make an NBA roster but i guarantee he’ll turn some heads in the summer league while i would bet 100% ryan reid never plays 1 second in an NBA uniform

[joecheck88Participant]

ill give him a chance, but they could of had willie warren and devin ebanks who at the beginning of the year were projected lottery picks. im sure rautins and fields could be good players but i think warren could be a great 6th man on a good team and ebanks could be an all nba defensive team guy for years plus i think the nba will open up his offensive game where he can be a 12ppg 7rpg and 3apg type of player in a year or 2. but fiels and rautins are late rotation players at best or 3rd and 4th off the bench.

[kanyedabestParticipant]

preach trinajoe!!!

[NYK2010Participant]

Exactly stop getting worked up for mid 2nd rounders.
He could work into the Knicks plans especially if Chandler is traded for a PG which could happen.

[billykParticipant]

Could Fields get 22 and 9 in the Big East???

[llperez]

i’ve already made a thread supporting fields and giving his stats. Let me add a few more thoughts.

According to a phoenix news report, the suns were planning on taking him at #46. That makes 2 teams who actually worked him out who thought something of him. Here is some other analysis from me about him.

He is a legit sf. At 6-7, he played the sf position in college and is not a tweener.

despite averaging only 3 assists with his 22 points, he is far from selfish. He will gladly make the extra pass. This very site pointed that out about him during the PIT that he was one of the more unelfish players there. Combine that with his 49%fg and dont think for a second he is just some guy who jacked up shots on a sub par team to get his numbers. He was very efficient and a great teammate.

His shot is not great 34%3pt, but his form is sound and there is no reason to believe he cant imrpve in that area. Jared dudley and matt barnes were not known for being great shooters out of college either.

He is a solid athlete and his scoring numbers went from 4ppg as a sophomore to 12ppg as a junior to 22ppg as a senior. He is constantly getting better and becoming more polished and still has upside.

His game might not blow you away in any one area, but at the same time he has no glaring weakness that makes you think he is nothing more then a d leaguer like some have suggested. He needs to work on his ball handling becasue his beiggest weakness was probably dealing with good on the ball defenders who got up on him.

He has a great motor and always goes for the rebound and always looks to attack the rim and rarely settles for bad shots. He keeps his head up and reads defenses well.

I’ve had him as the deserving pac 10 player of the year over jerome randle but could understand why he didnt get it based on team success. But i cant remember the last guy from the pac 10 who had the type of year he had that got as little attention as he did. You would have thought they announced some under the radar euro guy when the knicks picked him instead of one of the best players in the nation last season.

[joecheck88Participant]

im not hating on the players but i think better players could have been taken. and no i dont think fields gets 22 and 9 in the big east. if i remember correctly the pac 10 was VERY mediocre this year.

[llperez]

His stats in 4 games against other power 6 conference teams was actually better then what he did in the pac 10. He also averaged 26.5ppg in 2 head to head match ups against quincey pondexter who everyone thinks is gonna be an nba defensive presence. Pac 10 was down, but not like people were saying. Washington got to the sweet 16 and had a halftime lead over west virgina before losing. Cal destroyed louisville in the first round before running into duke.

[jrfloresssParticipant]

its not that I have a problem with landry fields, i have a problem that the knicks picked him when they could have had (any of the following) willie warren, gani lawal, lance stephenson, devbin ebanks,jarvis varnado, ryan richards, or even soloman alabi… yeah, he averaged 22 and 9 in a major conference, and the pac 10 has been majorly sucking as of late (i understand, all their best players left for draft but you dont see any other conference dieing down so fast) AND another thing.. ryan reid was the 57th pick and by that time in the draft there wasnt much to choose from, same goes for pape sy at 53 to ATL so those are poor examples especially to the 38th pick with still plenty of talent to choose from..

the reason ppl dont have as much complaints about rautins is because rautins has an NBA ready skill, his 3 pt shooting and he is also a decent passer and average defender… his 3pt shooting ability can easily translate to a team like the Knicks.. but what does Fields offer? he isnt great at anything, and he already have enough small forwards..

you say you dont know he’ll make an NBA roster, so why are u even sticking up for this guy? many players picked after fields have a great shot of making a roster and im sure they will all find one.. especially lance stephenson, who i think should have picked at 37 or 38.. he has an NBA skill which is his isolation, one on one dribble moves…if lance was drafted by the knicks he would make their roster no doubt about it.. fields looks like an alright prospect but he doesnt bring the skills and potential many others picked after him does.. there were many different and better options the knicks had at 38 and they wasted on a pick who u say “you dont know if he’ll make an NBA roster”

and that is why people hate on landry fields..

[knicks82Participant]

I gaurantee he makes the Knicks roster. They need players and this guy is a player. You say oh they couldve had this guy or that guy…ok. Why did all those other teams pass on those guys too? Willie Warren and Lance Stephenson are both head cases, the Knicks just jetisoned the biggest head case in all of basketball (Marbury) why add another one. I wouldve liked to seen them draft Varnado..I think he has Marcus Camby type skills, but hes only 6’9. Plus the Knicks bought the rights to Jerome Jordan. Im not all that dissappointed.

[PhlyBoi5Participant]

he dunked on adonal foyle lmao

[llperez]

anybody drafted in the second round might not make it in the nba. If a guy is gauranteed to make it in the NBA, i doubt he would fall to the second round.

[jrfloresssParticipant]

AND for your information..

yeah he averaged 22 and 9

omar sahman avreraged 22 11 and 3

devan downey averaged 22.5 in one of the BEST conferences this year

I like the example.. can fields average 22 and 9 in the big east?

look at it this way.. even if fields did get 22 and 9…. his team wasnt even good.. the players around him were pretty terrible with the exception of one of them i forgot the name.. but they were 7-ll in conference play and 14-18.. even for a mid major that is terrible

[jrfloresssParticipant]

I know not everyone drafted in the 2nd round will make it.. but i am pretty sure lance stephenson would make the knicks..

[MagikKnickParticipant]

Landry Fields is the most popular supposed-to-be-undrafted 2nd rounder, everrrrrrrr

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Someone call SVU…these guys are getting molested in the league….They get to play in ass rape central…MSG really stands for Men Spraying Goo…They Literally raped they their fans with this one folks…

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

U high?

[fastdanParticipant]

What makes it even more a stupid pick is that the Knicks only have depth at the 3. He’s behind Gallinari, and Chandler on the depth chart, so why would a team draft a third string SF when they have no SG, PG, PF or C.

[knicks82Participant]

you want to know why they drafted him? They did it just to fuck with everybody. And now they are laughing hysterically while smoking cigars.

[juves4783Participant]

why would you draft a small forward when you only have 2 picks and have chandler and gallanari?

[knicks82Participant]

They drafted him as insurance. Chandler may very well be part of a trade this offseason. And like I said before they got Jerome Jordan from the Bucks. So they got a pg/sg in Rautins, a sf in Fields and a C in Jordan. The Knicks worked all these guys out… they know more than we do. Thats what Im hopeing anyways.

[OrangeJuiceJonesParticipant]

Landry Fields = The most questionable second-round pick in recent memory.

Renaldo Balkman = The most questionable first-round pick in recent memory.

What do they both have in common?

[JNixonParticipant]

I can’t wait see how Fields looks in Summer League…I’ll definitely write about the way the Knicks play

[parkerjParticipant]

i like the strategy the knicks took with that pick…you take a guy with a nice all-around game and turn him into a specialist a la Michael Redd or Wesley Matthews…instead of taking a college specialist and hoping that skill translates…

best (reasonable) case with fields: he develops into a specialist whose other skills are average

best (reasonable) case with rautins: he develops into a specialist who has a number of skills that are below average/bad…

i’d say fields has a higher ceiling…not to mention, more options…rautins is pretty much stuck trying to be a shooting specialist…fields has a number of skills that could translate if he improves them

i have a feeling if Wesley Matthews (a 3rd option on a team that didn’t make it out of the second round of the tournament) had been drafted in the 30s, fans of his team would have flipped out

[llperez]

landry might have the biggest spotlight from nbadraft.net ever placed on a second rounder this coming season.

[johnecoParticipant]

One thing I was surprised by with Fields is that the Knicks measured him to have a 39″ vertical.

[meisi4Participant]

okay guys so were talking Knicks second rounders once again?
my first reaction was: aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrggggg!
my first real thought about it was:did it really surprise you?

thinking about it a little more maybe fields isn´t the superbad pick i first thought but at least you have to admit he is questionable… and rautins i havent changed my mind about him: poor man´s JJ REDICK !?
did anyone read the draft grades? there might be a reason for the knicks getting the second worst grade of all teams who had a pick? only GS did worse according to this page. even if these players or one of them can play ball i don´t really bellive it will translate to the nba. hopefully it will.
you said that other mentioned players (Ebanks, Stepehson, Warren) slipped for a reason and your right! they slipped just because teams werent sure if they would make it and really be top 20 worth picks. but neither fields or rautins slipped in fact they climed up! so there maybe a reason for no team really ever being as high on those two than on the others?

okay i`ll finish with a Lance comment because everybody seems to think he would have been the guy! i think if you really looking to sign the so called KING he would have been a bad pick. he is one of the most ball dominant players i have seen play and i don´t really think at this point many big FA would like to play with him. so i think he slipped because if you take him and want to play him he kind of makes himself your number one or two option…

my knicks picks this year at 38 and 39: Gani Lawal and Devin Ebanks

[StF616Participant]

I dont know what the hate about landry fields is
I know there would have been better options
But anytime you get a player with 22 and 9 thats good
He had 23 points and 13 reboudns against Kentucky!
Hes not the most athletic player.
But hes GOOD
I just hope everybody watch him play first before the hate

[MagikKnickParticipant]

I’ve never seen so much expectation on a 2nd rounder in summer league…

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