[tuck243Participant]

 I was watching the Rockets highlights yesterday and saw Jordan Hill playing, it reminded me how so many people on this site was high on him…  Now I look at this years mock draft and I see a similar player Thomas Robinson above a more talented player in Perry Jones… With all of the Ant Davis or Dre Drummond I decided this would be a good debate…Which one would you take and why?

My opinion?  Thomas Robinson is ranked too high…  I believe we have too many guys in the league that has the similar skill set as him so we know his ceiling…  There is a Thomas Robinson in almost every draft and someone you take just outside the lotto not Top 5…  

Perry on the other hand reminds me of how Rudy Gay was at UCONN… (We were just talking about how he had to be picked on as a kid, lol… Rudy?  And my last name is Gay? Fugu mom!!!) The type that shows glimpses of his potential but has a soft demeanor…  I think the only way Perry can maximize his potential is if he’s counted on to produce not be a regular player off the bench…

 I would take Perry in a heart beat over Thomas because the potential is too high to pass up on a Jordan Hill/Chris Humphries/Speights/Hickson/Shady clone… All quality players but not players you should take Top 5…

[GottaBeTheShoesParticipant]

Thomas Robinson because he’s proved he can ball and shows great improvement throughout his career.  His Rebounding ability is better and his scoring ability is better.  Perry Jones is a talented player but reminds me a lot of anthony Randolph, where he will have a lot of talent but will never push himself or be pushed enough to succeed.  I think under the right circumstances Jones would become the better player but it would have to be for the right team.

[Future_Scout]

check out that video under subject… this changed my mind on thomas robinson, this guy will go ham

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Nobody denies Perry Jones talent, they only question his desire and lack of aggressiveness..He doesnt bring it every game and you want your best player to give 100% every night..Jones plays at his own pace and that turns alot of people off and say he’s lazy..But i think he’s going to be a better pro then college player.His game is suited for the nba..

Robinson reminds me of Humphies when he was at Minnesota ,he dominated,but when he got to the pros he wasnt that dominate player.. It wasnt until last season when he finally found himself as a player…I say he should go in the 8 to 13 range..But teams sometimes draft guys based on the year they had and Robinson has a great season and he’s a great athlete,from a great program and doesnt have any off the court baggage,so i wouldnt be surprised if he some team took him in the top 5,but they’re going to be disappointed if they take him that high…

[river09Participant]

Good post.. I’ll go with Perry Jones here.. 

 

While Robinson could develop into a solid rebounder hustle guy in the NBA, but the truth is he isn’t polished at all on the offensive end. He gets his points from outmuscling his defender, getting position and laying/dunking the ball. I don’t think he’ll be effective in this respect in the NBA giving up so much height to his defenders in the post. Robinson isn’t much of a shooter either so where will he fit in on the offensive end? And then looking at the defensive end, I don’t see him having the quickness to deal with opposing SF’s or enough height to discourage PF’s from taking him right to the rim in the post… 

 

Perry Jones has shown the ability to knock down midrange jumpers consistently and Lately he has been a consistent option. His movement without the ball in his hands has improved considerably this year, and I don’t find him to be much of a chucker at all and has a respectable shooting percentage from the field at 55%. Whatever team that drafts him should be content with teh fact he won’t be a liability on the offensive end.. His length will keep him from being a problem on the defensive end as well..  

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 I would take Perry Jones and hope he comes along. A true physical specimen with skill talent that would be an elite package. I actually think he will be a Lamarcus Aldridge type of player has his demeanor as well.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Perry Jones and it’s not even close.  I’ve watched a lot of Baylor and Perry Jones is a force.  The only time he’s a not a force is when the ball don’t find him which is often.  He plays on a team with a lot of gunners in Walton, Haislip, Jackson, Miller, A. Jones, Jefferson.  All these guys can score and try to score every game.  Perry Jones plays mostly PF and C so if the ball don’t find him in the offense then he can’t do anything but go for the offensive board which brings me to his biggest weakness.  He is not a great natural rebounder.  He can be a good weakside shot blocker but Baylor plays a funky zone and he’s often limited to his spots on defense.

Perry Jones is still only 19, Thomas Robinson is 21.  I like Robinson but he scores most of his points on pure athleticism and he won’t be able to do that in the league.  Jones has an advanced skill set and hit’s tough turnaround jumpers which are pro ready.  And Robinson reminds me of a taller Kenneth Faried.

[jaysmith1987Participant]

Give me Robinson i might be crazy but I see blake griffin 2.0 at worst paul millsap. He is great athlete wuth a great motor and Danny Manning said hes the most skilled bigmen hes worked with at kansas wich includes a boatload of first round draft picks. I see perry jomes being a bosh like player or rahard lewis really good not great though. Unless Perry plays small forward in the nba then id rethink the eval but with them playing pf in the nba i go Robinson.

[FritzParticipant]

I just dont see the work ethic in Jones that makes me believe hes going to push himself to be a star. And Robinson is not that unpolished as an offensive player. He has a mid range jump shot and it isnt mediocre. Robinson hits his midrange off the dribble, in transition, and when hes wide open. His Free throw percentage I believe has increased 10 percent per year, that just shows the work ethic of Robinson. I think his shot will continue to improve, and his post work has gone from nothing to to servicable. He has shown the ability to drive to the basket from the top of they key and put the ball on the floor. I dont see why people think his potential is limited to just a hustle player and rebounder. What Robinson has been through with his family, I just think he is fully committed to improving himself and If I am picking between the two, thats the deciding factor.

I think a big key to Robinson’s success in the NBA is a good coaching staff. If he gets put in the right situation and has coaches to help him develop he will find a way to be successful, while Jones however, as unlimited as his potential is, I think he lacks the mental toughness that Robinson has.

[OhCanada-Participant]

If your a team with solid coaching leadership and solid veteran leadership it is okay to pick Jones the more talented/skilled player with less work ethic and intangible skills. For a team that has leadership issues and work ethic issues you would be setting Jones up for failure and would be much better off establishing that leadership through Robinson.

As an example, a team like the Kings or Wizards that are very uncoordinated and lack established roles/leaders would be much better off drafting Robinson. Although a team like the Celtics or the Cavs who have roles established and hardworkers can take more of a risk and draft the more talented player  Jones and hold him accountable within the established system thus teaching him the intangible skills.

 

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