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- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 5:06am #58196

don042488ParticipantAdrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo/NBA reported on Twitter the old draft system will stay, as the new reform was voted down at the Board of Governors meeting today
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 5:08am #952422

don042488ParticipantI guess this means the Sixers will still tank and collect assets
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 5:08am #952285

don042488ParticipantI guess this means the Sixers will still tank and collect assets
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 5:39am #952426
nbafan519Participantaaaand sam hinkie announces mcw’s 6-9 month timetable was in fact true, and he will miss the first 50 games of the season lol
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 5:39am #952289
nbafan519Participantaaaand sam hinkie announces mcw’s 6-9 month timetable was in fact true, and he will miss the first 50 games of the season lol
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 5:55am #952430

RUDEBOY_Participant13 teams voted against the new reform and as expected most are in smaller markets…i am a little surprised the kings voted for it…
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1.76’ers
2.utah
3.charlotte
4.phoenix
5.milwaukee
6.atlanta
7.okc
8.detroit
9.spurs
10.miami
11.chicago
12.washington
13.new orleans
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alot of teams feared that ending tanking wasnt worth the cost of keeping the league competitive….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 5:55am #952293

RUDEBOY_Participant13 teams voted against the new reform and as expected most are in smaller markets…i am a little surprised the kings voted for it…
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1.76’ers
2.utah
3.charlotte
4.phoenix
5.milwaukee
6.atlanta
7.okc
8.detroit
9.spurs
10.miami
11.chicago
12.washington
13.new orleans
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alot of teams feared that ending tanking wasnt worth the cost of keeping the league competitive….
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 12:11pm #952373

he_gets_bucketsParticipantJust because there would of been less incentive to tank doesn’t "keep the league competitive". Small market teams will still always be behind the large market ones, and making it even harder for the small teams to get draft picks wouldn’t of helped them out at all. Yes teams would be less likely to throw away entire seasons, but that wouldn’t make every team a playoff contender, it just means instead a team like Philly being terrible and winning 15 games, they’d be mediocre and win 30 games.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 12:11pm #952511

he_gets_bucketsParticipantJust because there would of been less incentive to tank doesn’t "keep the league competitive". Small market teams will still always be behind the large market ones, and making it even harder for the small teams to get draft picks wouldn’t of helped them out at all. Yes teams would be less likely to throw away entire seasons, but that wouldn’t make every team a playoff contender, it just means instead a team like Philly being terrible and winning 15 games, they’d be mediocre and win 30 games.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 2:40pm #952393

rich.homie.mitchParticipantSurprised Indiana voted for it.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 2:40pm #952531

rich.homie.mitchParticipantSurprised Indiana voted for it.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 6:50am #952436

ropeParticipantIsn’t part of the 76ers issue that they have made deals that include future unprotected picks? If the odds on those picks are reduced, it potentially diminishes the value of the trade. There was some discussion of waiting to implement a new system until all trade terms are consumated, but I do not believe it made it into the proposal that was voted on.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 6:50am #952299

ropeParticipantIsn’t part of the 76ers issue that they have made deals that include future unprotected picks? If the odds on those picks are reduced, it potentially diminishes the value of the trade. There was some discussion of waiting to implement a new system until all trade terms are consumated, but I do not believe it made it into the proposal that was voted on.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 9:03am #952330
Magic JordanParticipantSpreading out the odds would help the picks that the 76ers are receiving from other teams. Considering the other team will almost never be as bad as the 76ers, it would give that pick better odds, while reducing their own.
Its funny that a few years ago the owners locked the players out for "competitive balance yet they don’t approve a change that would make tanking less beneficial.
I’m admittedly only pissed because I’m a Lakers fan and it could have helped keep this years pick.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 9:03am #952468
Magic JordanParticipantSpreading out the odds would help the picks that the 76ers are receiving from other teams. Considering the other team will almost never be as bad as the 76ers, it would give that pick better odds, while reducing their own.
Its funny that a few years ago the owners locked the players out for "competitive balance yet they don’t approve a change that would make tanking less beneficial.
I’m admittedly only pissed because I’m a Lakers fan and it could have helped keep this years pick.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 7:55am #952452
Memphis MadnessParticipantI would make the first 5 picks determined by ping pong balls instead of just the top 3.
THEN make the 6th pick available to every team in the league as a wild card pick. So each team has a 3.3% chance of getting a high level lotto pick.
That would just expand the 1st round by 1 pick.
Or, you could expand it by two picks with the worst team in the league getting the 32nd pick.
Then I would do a serpentine second round where the best teams pick at the top of the second round, but with the worst team having the 32nd pick, then that team wouldn’t be penalized.
A serpentine second round would help teams who made the playoffs but weren’t true contenders. Instead of picking around 50, they would pick around 40.
Since the first round would have two extra picks (wild card pick at 6 and a bonus pick for the worst team in the league), the second round would also have two more picks. I would give the last two picks of the draft (63 and 64) to a lottery team. Each lottery team would have an equal shot at the two picks. So, a lottery team basically gets two extra picks. They can use them either to stockpile talent, stash guys overseas, or even trade the picks or sell them.
This would make the top five more fair, would give EVERY team a chance at a top shelf player with the wild card 6th pick, and it would reward the worst team in the league a bit with the extra first round pick. The second round would favor teams who make the playoffs, but would give a couple of extra picks to a bad team.
With the way the second round is now, why should the BEST teams get the worst picks in each round? Why are they PUNISHED?
My system would reward BOTH the good teams AND the bad teams. It would also reward a lucky team (playoff or non-playoff) with a high level pick at 6.
This would also be more fun to watch, with EIGHT picks determined by lottery. The last two picks of the second round, the wild card 6th pick open to ALL teams, and the top 5 picks, instead of only the top 3 picks under the current system.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 7:55am #952314
Memphis MadnessParticipantI would make the first 5 picks determined by ping pong balls instead of just the top 3.
THEN make the 6th pick available to every team in the league as a wild card pick. So each team has a 3.3% chance of getting a high level lotto pick.
That would just expand the 1st round by 1 pick.
Or, you could expand it by two picks with the worst team in the league getting the 32nd pick.
Then I would do a serpentine second round where the best teams pick at the top of the second round, but with the worst team having the 32nd pick, then that team wouldn’t be penalized.
A serpentine second round would help teams who made the playoffs but weren’t true contenders. Instead of picking around 50, they would pick around 40.
Since the first round would have two extra picks (wild card pick at 6 and a bonus pick for the worst team in the league), the second round would also have two more picks. I would give the last two picks of the draft (63 and 64) to a lottery team. Each lottery team would have an equal shot at the two picks. So, a lottery team basically gets two extra picks. They can use them either to stockpile talent, stash guys overseas, or even trade the picks or sell them.
This would make the top five more fair, would give EVERY team a chance at a top shelf player with the wild card 6th pick, and it would reward the worst team in the league a bit with the extra first round pick. The second round would favor teams who make the playoffs, but would give a couple of extra picks to a bad team.
With the way the second round is now, why should the BEST teams get the worst picks in each round? Why are they PUNISHED?
My system would reward BOTH the good teams AND the bad teams. It would also reward a lucky team (playoff or non-playoff) with a high level pick at 6.
This would also be more fun to watch, with EIGHT picks determined by lottery. The last two picks of the second round, the wild card 6th pick open to ALL teams, and the top 5 picks, instead of only the top 3 picks under the current system.
0- Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 7:07am #952617

King CaluchaParticipantExcept fot the bonus picks, this is the best idea I read in a lonf time.Basically expanding the lotto to 5 teams and reverse order in the 2nd round. Sounds pretty good to me.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 7:07am #952479

King CaluchaParticipantExcept fot the bonus picks, this is the best idea I read in a lonf time.Basically expanding the lotto to 5 teams and reverse order in the 2nd round. Sounds pretty good to me.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 10:40am #952363

HitsterParticipantRather surprised at some of the teams who voted against it like Spurs, Miami, Detroit,Chicago etc.
The proposed system gave the worse 4 teams roughly the same odds of getting a top pick so it could increase the chances of more teams tanking in a loaded draft.
I think only 4 times has the team with the worse record got the top pick since the lottery was introduced so tanking doesn’t in anyway guarantee you the top pick.
My idea of the lottery would be maybe break it down into 3 groups 1-10, 11-20, 21-30 and have a chance to move up to 1-3, 11-12 and 21-22 in 3 seperate draws.
My other idea was that the team with the worse record gets the number 1 chance in the lottery, lets say this is an Eastern Conference Team, then team with worse record in Western Conference gets number 2 chance in the lottery, team with 2nd worse record out East gets 3rd chance in the lottery and so on.This would give unlucky teams with a winning record who miss out on play offs a better chance in the lottery and a team might be more likely to chase a play off position if they know they would still likely to be picking 13th,14th and not moving up to 10th aprox.
The East and West are seen as even this makes the lottery totally even.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 12:15pm #952375

he_gets_bucketsParticipantThe problem with this is the East and West are /not/ even, the West is much much stronger from top to bottom. Phoenix would go been a 3 seed last season in the East and didn’t make it out West. The concept of alternating conferences would be good if there was parity between the conferences, but that’s not the case
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 12:15pm #952513

he_gets_bucketsParticipantThe problem with this is the East and West are /not/ even, the West is much much stronger from top to bottom. Phoenix would go been a 3 seed last season in the East and didn’t make it out West. The concept of alternating conferences would be good if there was parity between the conferences, but that’s not the case
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 10:40am #952501

HitsterParticipantRather surprised at some of the teams who voted against it like Spurs, Miami, Detroit,Chicago etc.
The proposed system gave the worse 4 teams roughly the same odds of getting a top pick so it could increase the chances of more teams tanking in a loaded draft.
I think only 4 times has the team with the worse record got the top pick since the lottery was introduced so tanking doesn’t in anyway guarantee you the top pick.
My idea of the lottery would be maybe break it down into 3 groups 1-10, 11-20, 21-30 and have a chance to move up to 1-3, 11-12 and 21-22 in 3 seperate draws.
My other idea was that the team with the worse record gets the number 1 chance in the lottery, lets say this is an Eastern Conference Team, then team with worse record in Western Conference gets number 2 chance in the lottery, team with 2nd worse record out East gets 3rd chance in the lottery and so on.This would give unlucky teams with a winning record who miss out on play offs a better chance in the lottery and a team might be more likely to chase a play off position if they know they would still likely to be picking 13th,14th and not moving up to 10th aprox.
The East and West are seen as even this makes the lottery totally even.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 12:47pm #952385

OhCanada-ParticipantLeave it alone. We just saw an East West Finals that had nothing to do with any teams tanking. OKC has yet to win a championship after their glorified tanking. The Wolves tanked for years and got nowhere. It makes a very small difference.
The Heat and Spurs made the finals last year. Top player recruited the top Free Agents in his class and the best organizational management made the smartest personnel decisions leading to multiple Championships for both organizations. The big market small market theory is out the window nowadays in my opinion and if a team wants to tank let them suffer.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 2:50pm #952397
Magic JordanParticipantI don’t think anybody is saying they want lottery reform because it’s such a successful strategy. It’s about having the best product possible. It’s about giving teams like the 76ers who are rolling out essentially a D-League team, less of a chance to be rewarded for putting nothing in the pot. They are drafting injured players, foreign players, and spending no money. All while collecting from the other teams revenue sharing. They should have less of a chance to be rewarded for doing nothing, and more of an incentive to compete.
Thus, maybe the solution to tanking doesn’t lie within the draft…. maybe the draft is not the problem. Perhaps the solution lies in altering how the revenue is shared in a manner that hurts the owners of these teams wallets. I doubt the 76ers owner would be so content throwing multiple seasons away if he knew he wasn’t going get a slice of the pie for doing so. Of course this would probably open up a whole new can of worms and if enough owners vetoed this most recent vote, they definitely wouldn’t go for a change that could hurt their bottom line.
Still something needs to be done. I still can’t get over the fact that Philly fans are cool with this.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 2:50pm #952535
Magic JordanParticipantI don’t think anybody is saying they want lottery reform because it’s such a successful strategy. It’s about having the best product possible. It’s about giving teams like the 76ers who are rolling out essentially a D-League team, less of a chance to be rewarded for putting nothing in the pot. They are drafting injured players, foreign players, and spending no money. All while collecting from the other teams revenue sharing. They should have less of a chance to be rewarded for doing nothing, and more of an incentive to compete.
Thus, maybe the solution to tanking doesn’t lie within the draft…. maybe the draft is not the problem. Perhaps the solution lies in altering how the revenue is shared in a manner that hurts the owners of these teams wallets. I doubt the 76ers owner would be so content throwing multiple seasons away if he knew he wasn’t going get a slice of the pie for doing so. Of course this would probably open up a whole new can of worms and if enough owners vetoed this most recent vote, they definitely wouldn’t go for a change that could hurt their bottom line.
Still something needs to be done. I still can’t get over the fact that Philly fans are cool with this.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 3:23am #952587
machu46ParticipantFor what it’s worth, the Spurs are an example of what tanking can get you. They tanked hardcore to get Duncan, and they’ve been the best organization in the NBA ever since.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 3:23am #952449
machu46ParticipantFor what it’s worth, the Spurs are an example of what tanking can get you. They tanked hardcore to get Duncan, and they’ve been the best organization in the NBA ever since.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/22/2014 - 12:47pm #952523

OhCanada-ParticipantLeave it alone. We just saw an East West Finals that had nothing to do with any teams tanking. OKC has yet to win a championship after their glorified tanking. The Wolves tanked for years and got nowhere. It makes a very small difference.
The Heat and Spurs made the finals last year. Top player recruited the top Free Agents in his class and the best organizational management made the smartest personnel decisions leading to multiple Championships for both organizations. The big market small market theory is out the window nowadays in my opinion and if a team wants to tank let them suffer.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 5:39am #952607
Memphis MadnessParticipantTanking works IF you can get lucky in a GREAT year. Shaq, Duncan, and LeBron have combined for 11 titles since 1999.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 5:39am #952469
Memphis MadnessParticipantTanking works IF you can get lucky in a GREAT year. Shaq, Duncan, and LeBron have combined for 11 titles since 1999.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 6:45am #952611
Memphis MadnessParticipantBill Simmons idea was to determine the first FIVE picks with ping pong balls, instead of just the first 3.
THAT would help.
I love the idea of a wild card pick though. Open to every team with each team getting equal odds. Say, use the 6th pick.
Why should 7th seeds and 8th seeds be punished by the draft? Especially if they worse records than non-playoff teams in the West.
I would expand the 1st round yet another pick. Give the WORST team record wise the 32nd pick.
THEN do a serpentine second round — helping out the middling playoff teams who would be picking in the 40’s instead of the 50’s.
Last two extra picks of the second round go to a non-playoff team who wins the draw (equal odds for all non-playoff teams). They might not add up much but you could sell them for cash, use them to trade up, OR draft guys to stash overseas.
I think this system would make it fair for ALL teams AND discourage tanking since the team with the WORST record could theoretically fall to 7. OR, they could get really, really lucky, win 3 ping pong picks, and draft at 1, 6, 32, 62, 63, and 64.
This would also be really, really fun to watch. EVERY team would have a vested interest in the draft.
First, draw for the 63rd and 64th picks. Give a lucky non-playoff team a chance to restock its D League team.
Next, draw for the wild card pick at 6. THAT pick could swing the next season’s title race.
Finally, draw in reverse order from 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1.
This system would encourage teams to go all out. Even a playoff team could draft at 6.
It wouldn’t be a non-brainer to tank, since the current worst case scenario is the 4th pick, but NOW it would be pick number 7. There is not only a huge difference at picking at number 1 and not picking at number one, but picks 1-3 are usually fundamentally different than picks at 4, 5, and 7.
GREAT teams get rewarded with picking at the top of the 2nd round. Give great teams and contenders a shot at picking TWO solid players instead of just one solid player (late first rounder). … the BAD teams can then use their late second round picks as basically farm players to develop either in the D League or overseas.
The teams in the exact middle would still be in a relatively bad spot, BUT a non-playoff average team would have FIVE chances of getting a top 5 pick instead of THREE shots at getting a top 3 pick, PLUS they would have the same odds as any other team at getting the 6th pick. … the 8th seeds of the world would also have a shot at the 6th pick. AND, both mediocre playoff teams and mediocre non-playoff teams would have better second round picks than the really BAD TEAMS.
I would also consider doing a partial third round where only the non-playoff teams get a pick with the WORST team in the league getting the top 3rd round pick which would be 65.
If you consider the bad teams as being teams who need to rebuild then the best way to accomplish that would be to make the top of the draft more fair (1-5) and then let them load up on later picks (the two bonus second round picks and the partial 3rd round).
ANOTHER tweak would be to put the two bonus 2nd round picks at the TOP of the 2nd round.
So, first round of 32 picks equals the regular draft plus the 6th pick wild card selection, and then an bonus pick (32) which goes to the worst team in the league.
Ok, now I would move the 2 bonus picks to the TOP of the second round with each non-playoff team getting an equal shot at the picks. So, two teams would get extra picks at the top of the second round. Each non-playoff team would have an equal shot at the bonus pick at 33 and the one at 34. BUT, you can’t win both.
Then you do a serpentine draft for the rest of the 2nd round with the best team in the league record wise picking at 35.
Including the partial 3rd round, this draft would have 78 picks.
The WORST team in the league could get UNLUCKY and end up picking at 7, 32, 64, and 65, or get EXTREMELY LUCKY and pick at 1, 6, 32, 33, 64, and 65. That would be a HUGE swing.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 6:45am #952473
Memphis MadnessParticipantBill Simmons idea was to determine the first FIVE picks with ping pong balls, instead of just the first 3.
THAT would help.
I love the idea of a wild card pick though. Open to every team with each team getting equal odds. Say, use the 6th pick.
Why should 7th seeds and 8th seeds be punished by the draft? Especially if they worse records than non-playoff teams in the West.
I would expand the 1st round yet another pick. Give the WORST team record wise the 32nd pick.
THEN do a serpentine second round — helping out the middling playoff teams who would be picking in the 40’s instead of the 50’s.
Last two extra picks of the second round go to a non-playoff team who wins the draw (equal odds for all non-playoff teams). They might not add up much but you could sell them for cash, use them to trade up, OR draft guys to stash overseas.
I think this system would make it fair for ALL teams AND discourage tanking since the team with the WORST record could theoretically fall to 7. OR, they could get really, really lucky, win 3 ping pong picks, and draft at 1, 6, 32, 62, 63, and 64.
This would also be really, really fun to watch. EVERY team would have a vested interest in the draft.
First, draw for the 63rd and 64th picks. Give a lucky non-playoff team a chance to restock its D League team.
Next, draw for the wild card pick at 6. THAT pick could swing the next season’s title race.
Finally, draw in reverse order from 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1.
This system would encourage teams to go all out. Even a playoff team could draft at 6.
It wouldn’t be a non-brainer to tank, since the current worst case scenario is the 4th pick, but NOW it would be pick number 7. There is not only a huge difference at picking at number 1 and not picking at number one, but picks 1-3 are usually fundamentally different than picks at 4, 5, and 7.
GREAT teams get rewarded with picking at the top of the 2nd round. Give great teams and contenders a shot at picking TWO solid players instead of just one solid player (late first rounder). … the BAD teams can then use their late second round picks as basically farm players to develop either in the D League or overseas.
The teams in the exact middle would still be in a relatively bad spot, BUT a non-playoff average team would have FIVE chances of getting a top 5 pick instead of THREE shots at getting a top 3 pick, PLUS they would have the same odds as any other team at getting the 6th pick. … the 8th seeds of the world would also have a shot at the 6th pick. AND, both mediocre playoff teams and mediocre non-playoff teams would have better second round picks than the really BAD TEAMS.
I would also consider doing a partial third round where only the non-playoff teams get a pick with the WORST team in the league getting the top 3rd round pick which would be 65.
If you consider the bad teams as being teams who need to rebuild then the best way to accomplish that would be to make the top of the draft more fair (1-5) and then let them load up on later picks (the two bonus second round picks and the partial 3rd round).
ANOTHER tweak would be to put the two bonus 2nd round picks at the TOP of the 2nd round.
So, first round of 32 picks equals the regular draft plus the 6th pick wild card selection, and then an bonus pick (32) which goes to the worst team in the league.
Ok, now I would move the 2 bonus picks to the TOP of the second round with each non-playoff team getting an equal shot at the picks. So, two teams would get extra picks at the top of the second round. Each non-playoff team would have an equal shot at the bonus pick at 33 and the one at 34. BUT, you can’t win both.
Then you do a serpentine draft for the rest of the 2nd round with the best team in the league record wise picking at 35.
Including the partial 3rd round, this draft would have 78 picks.
The WORST team in the league could get UNLUCKY and end up picking at 7, 32, 64, and 65, or get EXTREMELY LUCKY and pick at 1, 6, 32, 33, 64, and 65. That would be a HUGE swing.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 7:21am #952621
SwatLakeCityParticipantI didn’t like the wheel idea one bit. I love the mystery that is the Draft Lottery. With the lottery, the worst team may have the best chance to win the first pick but they also have a 75% chance of not winning the first pick. In other words its more likely that the first pick goes to a team that did not originally have the best odds of winning it all. Complete mystery and surprise. Yeah, it welcomes tanking, but here’s my thinking: Just because team A (Sixers) tanks doesn’t mean they will automatically win the lottery. As a matter of fact based on what I just said, team A has a better chance of not winning the lottery then they do winning the lottery. And that’s exactly what happened last draft, when Philly openly admitted to tanking. Philly was awarded the third pick after openly admitting to tanking and the Cavs won it all when they weren’t even trying to tank.
I bet even though Philly will tank again this year, they will still not win the lottery. Once again the 2015 draft lottery will be won by a team that did not tank one bit. This is the mystery and surprise of the draft lottery. We all expect one of the tanking teams to win the lottery, yet it is very likely that one of the nontanking teams actually wins it instead.
The wheel eliminates this mystery and suspense. With the wheel, all fans know who will get the first pick before the season even starts. Even if the team that we all know will get the first pick makes the playoffs too, that same team still gets the first pick in the wheel. It may seem fair, but in fact it is not fair. To me it is very unfair.
The lottery should stay, it may welcome tanking, but I think there is a way to fix that too. No massive change (like the wheel) needs to happen just a small tweak. We all have seen how the smallest things can bring about great things. I truly think the problem of tanking can be solved by just a tiny tweak to the draft lottery.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 7:21am #952483
SwatLakeCityParticipantI didn’t like the wheel idea one bit. I love the mystery that is the Draft Lottery. With the lottery, the worst team may have the best chance to win the first pick but they also have a 75% chance of not winning the first pick. In other words its more likely that the first pick goes to a team that did not originally have the best odds of winning it all. Complete mystery and surprise. Yeah, it welcomes tanking, but here’s my thinking: Just because team A (Sixers) tanks doesn’t mean they will automatically win the lottery. As a matter of fact based on what I just said, team A has a better chance of not winning the lottery then they do winning the lottery. And that’s exactly what happened last draft, when Philly openly admitted to tanking. Philly was awarded the third pick after openly admitting to tanking and the Cavs won it all when they weren’t even trying to tank.
I bet even though Philly will tank again this year, they will still not win the lottery. Once again the 2015 draft lottery will be won by a team that did not tank one bit. This is the mystery and surprise of the draft lottery. We all expect one of the tanking teams to win the lottery, yet it is very likely that one of the nontanking teams actually wins it instead.
The wheel eliminates this mystery and suspense. With the wheel, all fans know who will get the first pick before the season even starts. Even if the team that we all know will get the first pick makes the playoffs too, that same team still gets the first pick in the wheel. It may seem fair, but in fact it is not fair. To me it is very unfair.
The lottery should stay, it may welcome tanking, but I think there is a way to fix that too. No massive change (like the wheel) needs to happen just a small tweak. We all have seen how the smallest things can bring about great things. I truly think the problem of tanking can be solved by just a tiny tweak to the draft lottery.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 1:27pm #952709

ExumInfernoParticipantNo matter how the rule is changed, or kept the same, lots of teams will still see an incentive to lose games to try to get a better pick. But even without a draft lottery and the associated odds, in the past teams would lose more anyway at the end of a season as they gave younger players more minutes anyway.
One thing that would make sense is that a team got the top pick then they couldn’t win the draft lottery in the three years after that. If they did get the winning combination, they would instead get the second pick.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2014 - 1:27pm #952570

ExumInfernoParticipantNo matter how the rule is changed, or kept the same, lots of teams will still see an incentive to lose games to try to get a better pick. But even without a draft lottery and the associated odds, in the past teams would lose more anyway at the end of a season as they gave younger players more minutes anyway.
One thing that would make sense is that a team got the top pick then they couldn’t win the draft lottery in the three years after that. If they did get the winning combination, they would instead get the second pick.
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