[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Wanted some input and this is my current draft. Did all this in my head, who’s too low and who’s too high? Give me a clue

1. LeBron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwayne Wade
5. Derrick Rose
6. Carmelo Anthony
7. Deron Williams
8. Chris Paul
9. Kevin Durant
10. Dirk Nowitzki
11. Pau Gasol
12. Russell Westbrook
13. Rajon Rondo
14. Amare Stoudemire
15. Andrew Bogut
16. Steve Nash
17. Blake Griffin
18. Chris Bosh
19. Al Horford
20. Zach Randolph
21. Tony Parker
22. Monta Ellis
23. Kevin Garnett
24. Paul Pierce
25. Manu Ginobili
26. Tim Duncan
27. Eric Gordon
28. Stephen Curry
29. Joe Johnson
30. Andre Iguadala
31. Josh Smith
32. Danny Granger
33. John Wall
34. Kevin Martin
35. Carlos Boozer
36. Joakim Noah
37. LaMarcus Aldridge
38. Andrew Bynum
39. Kevin Love
40. Tyreke Evans
41. Stephen Jackson
42. Al Jefferson
43. Gerald Wallace
44. Marc Gasol
45. Brandon Jennings
46. Jeff Green
47. Loul Deng
48. Ray Allen
49. Andrea Bargnani
50. DeMarcus Cousins

 

What do you think?

[nateoak10Participant]

 I wouldn’t have ZBo in the top 20 

CP3, DWill, KD, Dirk and Stat should be higher then Melo imo 

[nateoak10Participant]

 I wouldn’t have ZBo in the top 20 

CP3, DWill, KD, Dirk and Stat should be higher then Melo imo 

[llperez]

cousins already a top 50 player and over lamar odom who is having a career season?

[llperez]

cousins already a top 50 player and over lamar odom who is having a career season?

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

When Zach Randolph plays, he a 20-10 lock every night I feel. He gets no love because he plays in Memphis, but he’s a great player and I think a solid top 20-25 guy.

I could understand having the point guards over Melo and maybe Dirk, but not Stoudemire. Since 2003, Carmelo Anthony has been the most clutch player in the NBA according to numbers along with the fact he leads all small forwards in rebounding plus he’s one of the top 10 scorers in the NBA

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

When Zach Randolph plays, he a 20-10 lock every night I feel. He gets no love because he plays in Memphis, but he’s a great player and I think a solid top 20-25 guy.

I could understand having the point guards over Melo and maybe Dirk, but not Stoudemire. Since 2003, Carmelo Anthony has been the most clutch player in the NBA according to numbers along with the fact he leads all small forwards in rebounding plus he’s one of the top 10 scorers in the NBA

[llperez]

and i can promise you if okc offered jeff green to new orleans for david west, new oreans would turn that down. Ill add my top 50 after the superbowl tonight.

[llperez]

and i can promise you if okc offered jeff green to new orleans for david west, new oreans would turn that down. Ill add my top 50 after the superbowl tonight.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

The 50 spot is always tough for me.

Also, Odom will get credit, but off the top, I rather give Anderson Verajao that 50 spot right now, but at the end of the season? I wouldn’t be shocked if Cousins got it.

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

The 50 spot is always tough for me.

Also, Odom will get credit, but off the top, I rather give Anderson Verajao that 50 spot right now, but at the end of the season? I wouldn’t be shocked if Cousins got it.

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Eric Gordon and Stephen Curry aren’t better than Joe Johnson… I don’t even think Monta Ellis is a better basketball player than Johnson. Other than Dwayne Wade, there’s only one other shooting guard I’m willing to say is better than Johnson and that’s Manu Ginobli…

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Eric Gordon and Stephen Curry aren’t better than Joe Johnson… I don’t even think Monta Ellis is a better basketball player than Johnson. Other than Dwayne Wade, there’s only one other shooting guard I’m willing to say is better than Johnson and that’s Manu Ginobli…

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

David West is a creation of Chris Paul. I agree, NO would turn down that deal, but I’m sure Green has more value around the NBA.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

David West is a creation of Chris Paul. I agree, NO would turn down that deal, but I’m sure Green has more value around the NBA.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I do, I think Curry is better overall. I feel Curry is low right now when I look at it. He’s a great point guard today, he just plays with Monta. I’m telling you, he’s a STUD

As for Gordon, I just perfer him over Johnson. I think he’s better.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I do, I think Curry is better overall. I feel Curry is low right now when I look at it. He’s a great point guard today, he just plays with Monta. I’m telling you, he’s a STUD

As for Gordon, I just perfer him over Johnson. I think he’s better.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

It’s your top 50, but I don’t know how that makes sense…

Johnson is a complete player who may not be a true number one guy, but has led his team to the playoffs the last few years. Gordon isn’t the complete player that Johnson is and neither is Curry.

I just don’t know… I mean, based on what grounds can you say they’re better than him?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

It’s your top 50, but I don’t know how that makes sense…

Johnson is a complete player who may not be a true number one guy, but has led his team to the playoffs the last few years. Gordon isn’t the complete player that Johnson is and neither is Curry.

I just don’t know… I mean, based on what grounds can you say they’re better than him?

[wd40rocksParticipant]

 Indy Basketball did you forget about Kobe? Because I would say he is a better sg than Johnson.

[wd40rocksParticipant]

 Indy Basketball did you forget about Kobe? Because I would say he is a better sg than Johnson.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I forgot Rudy Gay! Knew I FORGOT SOMEONE

@Indy

I base it on: Overall, Contract, Value, 5 years from now and Intangables. It’s kinda like Simmons trade value chart. First, this list will come out in the summer. But here’s my opinion:

Eric Gordon is a better slasher, scorer and defender then Johnson. The passing numbers are closer then you think, the rebound numbers support Johnson as well. I feel Gordon is just a better basketall player. Yes, Johnson was leading ATL to the playoffs, but it took seasons to do that (which is why I ranked Johnson 2nd behind Horford and barely in front of Smith)

Stephen Curry is my guy. People don’t believe me, this man is Steve Nash 2.0. I feel if Golden State wanted Joe Johnson and Stephen Curry was the piece they were gonna send, I think Atlanta does it in a heartbeat. Curry can’t defend, but he does everything else so well.

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I forgot Rudy Gay! Knew I FORGOT SOMEONE

@Indy

I base it on: Overall, Contract, Value, 5 years from now and Intangables. It’s kinda like Simmons trade value chart. First, this list will come out in the summer. But here’s my opinion:

Eric Gordon is a better slasher, scorer and defender then Johnson. The passing numbers are closer then you think, the rebound numbers support Johnson as well. I feel Gordon is just a better basketall player. Yes, Johnson was leading ATL to the playoffs, but it took seasons to do that (which is why I ranked Johnson 2nd behind Horford and barely in front of Smith)

Stephen Curry is my guy. People don’t believe me, this man is Steve Nash 2.0. I feel if Golden State wanted Joe Johnson and Stephen Curry was the piece they were gonna send, I think Atlanta does it in a heartbeat. Curry can’t defend, but he does everything else so well.

 

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

-I wouldn’t have Curry near that high

-I would move Amare up a little bit. 

-I wouldn’t have Jeff Green on the list at all.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

-I wouldn’t have Curry near that high

-I would move Amare up a little bit. 

-I wouldn’t have Jeff Green on the list at all.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

I just don’t really see it with Stephen Curry. I know not many people will agree with me here, but I just don’t see him ever being better than Monta Ellis is right now. He is a good player no doubt, but I don’t see him as a franchise talent, or someone to build around.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

I just don’t really see it with Stephen Curry. I know not many people will agree with me here, but I just don’t see him ever being better than Monta Ellis is right now. He is a good player no doubt, but I don’t see him as a franchise talent, or someone to build around.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Double Post.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Double Post.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I just don’t really see it with Stephen Curry. I know not many people will agree with me here, but I just don’t see him ever being better than Monta Ellis is right now. He is a good player no doubt, but I don’t see him as a franchise talent, or someone to build around.

 

I do. He’s underrated right now. He can’t defend, but he’s a good scorer, he’s a improving passer and he actually rebounds alright for a point guard (4.2 career, 3.2 this season). I feel once he leaves Monta Ellis, I think he’s gonna be a 23-8-4 type guy for Golden State. He’s that good. I understand you don’t see it, but you have to trust me on this one, that man has some game and can be a leader on a offense.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I just don’t really see it with Stephen Curry. I know not many people will agree with me here, but I just don’t see him ever being better than Monta Ellis is right now. He is a good player no doubt, but I don’t see him as a franchise talent, or someone to build around.

 

I do. He’s underrated right now. He can’t defend, but he’s a good scorer, he’s a improving passer and he actually rebounds alright for a point guard (4.2 career, 3.2 this season). I feel once he leaves Monta Ellis, I think he’s gonna be a 23-8-4 type guy for Golden State. He’s that good. I understand you don’t see it, but you have to trust me on this one, that man has some game and can be a leader on a offense.

[BasketBalAllanParticipant]

Bogut and Kevin Martin are to high.

[BasketBalAllanParticipant]

Bogut and Kevin Martin are to high.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Kevin Martin, I agree- I might have to move him down.

Bogut, I have to agree as well, I thought he was better…I’ll move him down as well

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Kevin Martin, I agree- I might have to move him down.

Bogut, I have to agree as well, I thought he was better…I’ll move him down as well

[McWinningParticipant]

Varejso above Odom?

No David West? He played just as well, maybe better last yearwhen Paulwas out.

And Noah should not be in front of Aldrdge.

[McWinningParticipant]

Varejso above Odom?

No David West? He played just as well, maybe better last yearwhen Paulwas out.

And Noah should not be in front of Aldrdge.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Verejao is one of the best defensive players in the NBA. Odom has done this for what? 6 months?

West is a product of CP3. If CP3 left, he’d be averaging like 15-7. He’s not that good.

You can switch them if you want, Noah does everything better then Aldridge IMO then scoring.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Verejao is one of the best defensive players in the NBA. Odom has done this for what? 6 months?

West is a product of CP3. If CP3 left, he’d be averaging like 15-7. He’s not that good.

You can switch them if you want, Noah does everything better then Aldridge IMO then scoring.

[McWinningParticipant]

Odom has always been a great player, his numbers have dipped from earlier in his career but hes very been great on a elite team.

If he was on an awful team like the Cavs he would be a 20, 10 guys.
Heck Varejaos numbers are very inflated being on a team with noone who can rebound the ball, and hes not that good defensibly.
And what do you mean hes done this for 6 months? Lamar Odom has been a double-double guy for years.

Varejao is a good player, But Lamar is just so much better its not close.

West had a slow start to his career, but he was a beast in college, and when Paul was out he did just as good maybe better than with Paul.

This ones close, but Noah is not as good as you think defensively, i remember Oden abusing him last year, and he really struggles against stronger players.

Aldridge is an underrated defender personally i think, hes great against stretch fours, can hold his own against most fours, and is probably the best big man in the at switching on guards.

Noahs Obviously the better rebounder, but Aldridge is much better offensively.

Ill take Aldridge.

[McWinningParticipant]

Odom has always been a great player, his numbers have dipped from earlier in his career but hes very been great on a elite team.

If he was on an awful team like the Cavs he would be a 20, 10 guys.
Heck Varejaos numbers are very inflated being on a team with noone who can rebound the ball, and hes not that good defensibly.
And what do you mean hes done this for 6 months? Lamar Odom has been a double-double guy for years.

Varejao is a good player, But Lamar is just so much better its not close.

West had a slow start to his career, but he was a beast in college, and when Paul was out he did just as good maybe better than with Paul.

This ones close, but Noah is not as good as you think defensively, i remember Oden abusing him last year, and he really struggles against stronger players.

Aldridge is an underrated defender personally i think, hes great against stretch fours, can hold his own against most fours, and is probably the best big man in the at switching on guards.

Noahs Obviously the better rebounder, but Aldridge is much better offensively.

Ill take Aldridge.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Odom’s a great player, no dobuting that, but he’s a guy who’s known to coast in his career. I watched him play alot in LAC and in Miami, that’s one of the reason he was movable. I love Anderson Verejao’s game. He’s a better Kendrick Perkins, he’s a great defender overall in the low post and high post, he’s efficent when he has to score and he’s always been one of the top players in terms of plus-minus. I rather have Verejao.

With Noah, he is a slightly overrated defender but he’s a great rebounder and he’s very tough. He’s a player who can start, try hard and doesn’t need touches on offense to keep him interested. It’s very hard to find a player like that in the NBA and he and Verejao are those guys. Aldridge is great and this stretch is showing me something about him, but I rather give it till the end of the season and see what’s up then.

 

Remember, I do this in the summer so by then, some guys move up and some move down. Also, I think I’m moving Luis Scola in for discussion.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Odom’s a great player, no dobuting that, but he’s a guy who’s known to coast in his career. I watched him play alot in LAC and in Miami, that’s one of the reason he was movable. I love Anderson Verejao’s game. He’s a better Kendrick Perkins, he’s a great defender overall in the low post and high post, he’s efficent when he has to score and he’s always been one of the top players in terms of plus-minus. I rather have Verejao.

With Noah, he is a slightly overrated defender but he’s a great rebounder and he’s very tough. He’s a player who can start, try hard and doesn’t need touches on offense to keep him interested. It’s very hard to find a player like that in the NBA and he and Verejao are those guys. Aldridge is great and this stretch is showing me something about him, but I rather give it till the end of the season and see what’s up then.

 

Remember, I do this in the summer so by then, some guys move up and some move down. Also, I think I’m moving Luis Scola in for discussion.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

 Jeff Green wouldn’t crack the list and i also think boozer getting no love.  35 is to low. 

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

 Jeff Green wouldn’t crack the list and i also think boozer getting no love.  35 is to low. 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Bunp

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Bunp

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

I said it before, but I don’t think that Horford is anywhere close to the 19th best player in the league.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

I said it before, but I don’t think that Horford is anywhere close to the 19th best player in the league.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Here’s why I have him at 19:

 

17-10-4 guy, Atlanta became relevant once he got there, one of the most efficent players in the NBA on offense, top 10 in FG percentage and a solid contract.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Here’s why I have him at 19:

 

17-10-4 guy, Atlanta became relevant once he got there, one of the most efficent players in the NBA on offense, top 10 in FG percentage and a solid contract.

[wd40rocksParticipant]

 Oh, and Paul Millsap should at least be in the conversation for a spot on the list.

[wd40rocksParticipant]

 Oh, and Paul Millsap should at least be in the conversation for a spot on the list.

[PureshooterParticipant]

I think Rose is too high.  I see him as number 12 or so.  I wouldn’t put him above Williams and Paul just yet. 

[PureshooterParticipant]

I think Rose is too high.  I see him as number 12 or so.  I wouldn’t put him above Williams and Paul just yet. 

[PureshooterParticipant]

I think Rose is too high.  I see him as number 12 or so.  I wouldn’t put him above Williams and Paul just yet. 

[omphalosParticipant]

Dwight isn’t above Kobe, Wade or Durant in my opinion. Number 2 is too high. Durant is too low, Gay should be in the top 20, instead of Z-Bo, I honestly think he’s the better player and should have been an All-Star this season. Melo too high as well, and Paul should be above Rose, though I do think Rose has surpassed Deron. Also, Amare should be above Pau, he proved he can play without Nash and has made the Knicks relevant again. While Pau has floundered after a hot start. Agreed that Jeff Green shouldn’t be in the top 50. Also, Aldridge should be above Iguodala, Curry and a number of others you’ve put there. I agree about Gordon being better than Joe Johnson.

[omphalosParticipant]

Dwight isn’t above Kobe, Wade or Durant in my opinion. Number 2 is too high. Durant is too low, Gay should be in the top 20, instead of Z-Bo, I honestly think he’s the better player and should have been an All-Star this season. Melo too high as well, and Paul should be above Rose, though I do think Rose has surpassed Deron. Also, Amare should be above Pau, he proved he can play without Nash and has made the Knicks relevant again. While Pau has floundered after a hot start. Agreed that Jeff Green shouldn’t be in the top 50. Also, Aldridge should be above Iguodala, Curry and a number of others you’ve put there. I agree about Gordon being better than Joe Johnson.

[omphalosParticipant]

Dwight isn’t above Kobe, Wade or Durant in my opinion. Number 2 is too high. Durant is too low, Gay should be in the top 20, instead of Z-Bo, I honestly think he’s the better player and should have been an All-Star this season. Melo too high as well, and Paul should be above Rose, though I do think Rose has surpassed Deron. Also, Amare should be above Pau, he proved he can play without Nash and has made the Knicks relevant again. While Pau has floundered after a hot start. Agreed that Jeff Green shouldn’t be in the top 50. Also, Aldridge should be above Iguodala, Curry and a number of others you’ve put there. I agree about Gordon being better than Joe Johnson.

[gregoden08Participant]

Imo, he has passed Josh Smith. He has carried the Blazers and has had an amazing season while being double teamed throughout the year. I’d definetely put him in the top-30. He is a top-10 mvp canidate this year. Gordon and Curry are a little high IMO. Nice list, though.

[gregoden08Participant]

Imo, he has passed Josh Smith. He has carried the Blazers and has had an amazing season while being double teamed throughout the year. I’d definetely put him in the top-30. He is a top-10 mvp canidate this year. Gordon and Curry are a little high IMO. Nice list, though.

[gregoden08Participant]

Imo, he has passed Josh Smith. He has carried the Blazers and has had an amazing season while being double teamed throughout the year. I’d definetely put him in the top-30. He is a top-10 mvp canidate this year. Gordon and Curry are a little high IMO. Nice list, though.

[Toronto16Participant]

Andrea Bargnani should not be on this list.

[Toronto16Participant]

Andrea Bargnani should not be on this list.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I rather place Scola into the discussion over Milsap.

I think Dwight, if the NBA had a fantasy draft, would be the 2nd pick. He produces more then all the players below him on defense and he’s not far off on offense.

Amar’e is not above Pau. If you swapped the two, Los Angeles wouldn’t be able to win a title I feel.

Chris Paul isn’t better then Rose IMO and Melo is high, but I explained why I had him that high

I don’t think Aldridge is a top 30 player in the NBA.

Bargs is good, but I agree. Maybe he’s a guy not in the top 50.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I rather place Scola into the discussion over Milsap.

I think Dwight, if the NBA had a fantasy draft, would be the 2nd pick. He produces more then all the players below him on defense and he’s not far off on offense.

Amar’e is not above Pau. If you swapped the two, Los Angeles wouldn’t be able to win a title I feel.

Chris Paul isn’t better then Rose IMO and Melo is high, but I explained why I had him that high

I don’t think Aldridge is a top 30 player in the NBA.

Bargs is good, but I agree. Maybe he’s a guy not in the top 50.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

"Indy Basketball did you forget about Kobe? Because I would say he is a better sg than Johnson."

Shouldn’t that have been obvious?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

"Indy Basketball did you forget about Kobe? Because I would say he is a better sg than Johnson."

Shouldn’t that have been obvious?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

And I’m a huge Eric Gordon fan, but do you people who are saying Gordon is better than Johnson think Gordon could lead a team to the playoffs as it’s top option?

Gordon doesn’t have the ball handling, passing, mid-range game or all-around skills that Johnson has yet. He’s also not as good in the fourth quarter either.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

And I’m a huge Eric Gordon fan, but do you people who are saying Gordon is better than Johnson think Gordon could lead a team to the playoffs as it’s top option?

Gordon doesn’t have the ball handling, passing, mid-range game or all-around skills that Johnson has yet. He’s also not as good in the fourth quarter either.

[Ghost01Participant]

Ranking players randomly is stupid. Is Joe Johnson a good player? yes. But with that contract, theres about 10 different shooting guards i would rather have on an actual team then him.

[Ghost01Participant]

Ranking players randomly is stupid. Is Joe Johnson a good player? yes. But with that contract, theres about 10 different shooting guards i would rather have on an actual team then him.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

And I’m a huge Eric Gordon fan, but do you people who are saying Gordon is better than Johnson think Gordon could lead a team to the playoffs as it’s top option?

– I’d argue he was second option or even third option. I’d argue if you swap Gordon for Johnson, Atlanta would be a similar team to what they are now.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

And I’m a huge Eric Gordon fan, but do you people who are saying Gordon is better than Johnson think Gordon could lead a team to the playoffs as it’s top option?

– I’d argue he was second option or even third option. I’d argue if you swap Gordon for Johnson, Atlanta would be a similar team to what they are now.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Also, ranking players isn’t stupid, it always brings up good discussions

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Also, ranking players isn’t stupid, it always brings up good discussions

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

i think the list is weak

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

i think the list is weak

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

i think the list is weak

 

Oh thanks, don’t explain why to help me improve it…

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

i think the list is weak

 

Oh thanks, don’t explain why to help me improve it…

 

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

well like i think some players are out of place

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

well like i think some players are out of place

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

dwight is not better than kobe

dwade is better than dwight

amare is better than rondo

ray allen i thinked is ranked to low

john wall right now is not better than boozer

danny granger is better than josh smith

joe johnson is better than curry

horford is ranked to high…HOW THE HELL IS HORFORD BETTER THAN JOE JOHNSON????

ill just stop it there

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

dwight is not better than kobe

dwade is better than dwight

amare is better than rondo

ray allen i thinked is ranked to low

john wall right now is not better than boozer

danny granger is better than josh smith

joe johnson is better than curry

horford is ranked to high…HOW THE HELL IS HORFORD BETTER THAN JOE JOHNSON????

ill just stop it there

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

dwight is not better than kobe ( Offensive numbers aren’t far apart, Dwight is the best defensive big in the NBA)

Dwade better then Dwight ( No he’s not, Dwght is better)

amare is better than rondo (No he’s not, Rondo is way better and a better defender at his position)

ray allen i thinked is ranked to low ( That’s a opinion, but where do u think he should go?)

john wall right now is not better than boozer ( True, I should move Wall down)

danny granger is better than josh smith ( I don’t think so)

joe johnson is better than curry ( I spoke about it earlier….read above)

horford is ranked to high…HOW THE HELL IS HORFORD BETTER THAN JOE JOHNSON???? ( Johnson was there in Atlanta and won 21 and 27 games before Horford came. Once Horford came, they became a 40-50 win team)

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

dwight is not better than kobe ( Offensive numbers aren’t far apart, Dwight is the best defensive big in the NBA)

Dwade better then Dwight ( No he’s not, Dwght is better)

amare is better than rondo (No he’s not, Rondo is way better and a better defender at his position)

ray allen i thinked is ranked to low ( That’s a opinion, but where do u think he should go?)

john wall right now is not better than boozer ( True, I should move Wall down)

danny granger is better than josh smith ( I don’t think so)

joe johnson is better than curry ( I spoke about it earlier….read above)

horford is ranked to high…HOW THE HELL IS HORFORD BETTER THAN JOE JOHNSON???? ( Johnson was there in Atlanta and won 21 and 27 games before Horford came. Once Horford came, they became a 40-50 win team)

 

[Ghost01Participant]

Fine you want an explanation, here it is:

1. LeBron James

Duh

2. Dwight Howard- In terms of VALUE, yes, in terms of TALENT, no. Dwight is an immovable piece, but he still lacks some of the intangibles of some others on this list. but im fine with it.

3. Kobe Bryant- I disagree, but thats fine.

4. D Wade, 5. Derrick Rose- Good

6. Carmelo- Woahhhhh, absolutely not. Look at what the Nuggets are getting for Carmelo in these deals- this guy does not have more value then the 5-10 guys listed below him. Ask yourself, Im not even positive Sac Town would trade Reke for Melo straight up.

7 & 8. D Williams and CP3- I disagree. Westbrook is better than both of them right now.

9. Durant- Definitely should be top 5. Two years in a row as scoring leader says enough.

10. Dirk- Should be higher, one of the most valued players in the league, a true franchise guy, basically irreplacable in Dallas.

11. Gasol- probably right around here.

12. Westbrook- Again, should be higher. He has been outside Rose the best PG in the game this year.

13. Rondo- Yup

14. Amare- I would go a bit lower. He hasnt proven he can win, and remember when PHX couldnt find anyone to take him acouple years back? I think his value is lower than people think.

15. Andrew Bogut- WTF???? I dont even know if hes top 40. This guy is putting up numbers, but has never been a winner, and his numbers arent THAT impressive.

16. Steve Nash- Too old to be this high. But i can live with it.

17. Blake Griffin- In terms of immediate talent, hes probably a few spots higher. In terms of value, hes top 5.

18. Chris Bosh- About right.

19. Al Horford- I think Jo Noah is better

20. ZBo- yup

21. Tony Parker-Dont think hes the best of the Spurs, hes probably the worst

22. Monta- Debatable. Wish i had evidence he can win but i guess this is fair. I would put Curry ahead of him personally.

23. KG- Yup

24. PP34-Yup

25. Manu- I would go a bit higher, but generally the right range

26. Duncan- At this point, yes

27. Eric Gordon, i agree, probably one of the most underrated players in the league

28. Steph Curry- Higher. Curry has been outstanding for a 2nd year guy. More efficient then his backcourt mate, too.

29. J Johnson- Its hard with the contract. I dont buy hes a proven winner/leader. This team has never won anything other than first round series against crippled/one man teams. And he might not even be there best player. The one thing i do know, he aint worth 120 million dollars. I would go lower.

30. Iggy- Lower

31. J Smoove- Inigma. I would go Lower, but its basically around here

32. Granger- Yup

33. J Wall- Still has some growing to do, so i would say this is right.

34. Kevin Martin- Lower

35. Boozer- Higher. This guy is legit 20-10 yet hes behind J Smoove?

36. Joakim Noah- Miles behind Horford? Come on.

37. Aldridge- Higher. This guy should have been an all star

38. Bynum- Yup

39. K Love- I would go higher based on production.

40. Reke- Yup, around here.

41. Stephen Jackson- Yup

42. Al Jefferson- I dont think hes a top 50 player right now.

43. Gerald Wallace- Yup

44. Marc Gasol- Not a top 50 player

45. Brandon Jennings- Needs to show more, but based on potentail im fine with it.

46. Jeff Green- Not top 50

47 Luol Deng- Yup

48. Ray Allen- Yup

49- Bargnani- Maybe if they only played on one end…but hes not top 50

50- Cousins- Way too Soon.

Omissions:

Paul Millsap

Nene

Rudy Gay

David West

 

[Ghost01Participant]

Fine you want an explanation, here it is:

1. LeBron James

Duh

2. Dwight Howard- In terms of VALUE, yes, in terms of TALENT, no. Dwight is an immovable piece, but he still lacks some of the intangibles of some others on this list. but im fine with it.

3. Kobe Bryant- I disagree, but thats fine.

4. D Wade, 5. Derrick Rose- Good

6. Carmelo- Woahhhhh, absolutely not. Look at what the Nuggets are getting for Carmelo in these deals- this guy does not have more value then the 5-10 guys listed below him. Ask yourself, Im not even positive Sac Town would trade Reke for Melo straight up.

7 & 8. D Williams and CP3- I disagree. Westbrook is better than both of them right now.

9. Durant- Definitely should be top 5. Two years in a row as scoring leader says enough.

10. Dirk- Should be higher, one of the most valued players in the league, a true franchise guy, basically irreplacable in Dallas.

11. Gasol- probably right around here.

12. Westbrook- Again, should be higher. He has been outside Rose the best PG in the game this year.

13. Rondo- Yup

14. Amare- I would go a bit lower. He hasnt proven he can win, and remember when PHX couldnt find anyone to take him acouple years back? I think his value is lower than people think.

15. Andrew Bogut- WTF???? I dont even know if hes top 40. This guy is putting up numbers, but has never been a winner, and his numbers arent THAT impressive.

16. Steve Nash- Too old to be this high. But i can live with it.

17. Blake Griffin- In terms of immediate talent, hes probably a few spots higher. In terms of value, hes top 5.

18. Chris Bosh- About right.

19. Al Horford- I think Jo Noah is better

20. ZBo- yup

21. Tony Parker-Dont think hes the best of the Spurs, hes probably the worst

22. Monta- Debatable. Wish i had evidence he can win but i guess this is fair. I would put Curry ahead of him personally.

23. KG- Yup

24. PP34-Yup

25. Manu- I would go a bit higher, but generally the right range

26. Duncan- At this point, yes

27. Eric Gordon, i agree, probably one of the most underrated players in the league

28. Steph Curry- Higher. Curry has been outstanding for a 2nd year guy. More efficient then his backcourt mate, too.

29. J Johnson- Its hard with the contract. I dont buy hes a proven winner/leader. This team has never won anything other than first round series against crippled/one man teams. And he might not even be there best player. The one thing i do know, he aint worth 120 million dollars. I would go lower.

30. Iggy- Lower

31. J Smoove- Inigma. I would go Lower, but its basically around here

32. Granger- Yup

33. J Wall- Still has some growing to do, so i would say this is right.

34. Kevin Martin- Lower

35. Boozer- Higher. This guy is legit 20-10 yet hes behind J Smoove?

36. Joakim Noah- Miles behind Horford? Come on.

37. Aldridge- Higher. This guy should have been an all star

38. Bynum- Yup

39. K Love- I would go higher based on production.

40. Reke- Yup, around here.

41. Stephen Jackson- Yup

42. Al Jefferson- I dont think hes a top 50 player right now.

43. Gerald Wallace- Yup

44. Marc Gasol- Not a top 50 player

45. Brandon Jennings- Needs to show more, but based on potentail im fine with it.

46. Jeff Green- Not top 50

47 Luol Deng- Yup

48. Ray Allen- Yup

49- Bargnani- Maybe if they only played on one end…but hes not top 50

50- Cousins- Way too Soon.

Omissions:

Paul Millsap

Nene

Rudy Gay

David West

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Whoa…you went in, let me explain the one you disagreed with.

6. Carmelo Anthony: Top 3 SF in the NBA, The Clutchest player in the NBA according to the numbers presented by Abbott in the Kobe article and leads the NBA in rebounding for SF’s. He can’t defend, but he’s fantastic everywhere else. Also, Bill Simmons is wrong. Denver would move Melo for Evans in a heartbeat

12. Westbrook- I disagree. I think this is perfect for him. I feel he’s not one of the top 10 players in the NBA. He’s firmly in the second tier.

15. Bogut- Agree, he’s moving down

31. Josh Smith- I might move him up

35. Boozer- Yup, he’s going up

37. Aldridge- He’s my ultimate "I wanna see in the offseason" guy. Good stretch, I wanna see more.

44. Gasol- Trust, he’s a legit 17-10 guy I think. He’s gonna have a monster season if he stays and Z-Bo leaves.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Whoa…you went in, let me explain the one you disagreed with.

6. Carmelo Anthony: Top 3 SF in the NBA, The Clutchest player in the NBA according to the numbers presented by Abbott in the Kobe article and leads the NBA in rebounding for SF’s. He can’t defend, but he’s fantastic everywhere else. Also, Bill Simmons is wrong. Denver would move Melo for Evans in a heartbeat

12. Westbrook- I disagree. I think this is perfect for him. I feel he’s not one of the top 10 players in the NBA. He’s firmly in the second tier.

15. Bogut- Agree, he’s moving down

31. Josh Smith- I might move him up

35. Boozer- Yup, he’s going up

37. Aldridge- He’s my ultimate "I wanna see in the offseason" guy. Good stretch, I wanna see more.

44. Gasol- Trust, he’s a legit 17-10 guy I think. He’s gonna have a monster season if he stays and Z-Bo leaves.

[Ghost01Participant]

Heres my 50, i lost someone, let me know if you can figure out who it is cuz i cant lol
 

 

Right now, in terms of talent, not career accomplishments:

1. Lebron

2. Dwight Howard

3. D Wade

4. Derrick Rose

5. Kevin Durant

6. Kobe Bryant

7. Dirk

8. Russell Westbrook

9. Rajon Rondo

10. Gasol

11. Deron Williams

12. Carmelo Anthony

13. Chris Paul

14. Blake Griffin

15. Amare Stoudamire

16. Chris Bosh

17. Tim Duncan

18. LaMarcus Aldridge

19. Manu Ginobli

20. Zach Randolph

21. Kevin Garnett

22. Carlos Boozer

23. Joakim Noah

24. Paul Pierce

25. Steve Nash

26. Steph Curry

27. Monta Ellis

28. Al Horford

29. Eric Gordon

30. Tony Parker

31. Kevin love

32. Rudy Gay

33. David West

34. Josh Smith

35. Iguodala

36. Joe Johnson

37. John Wall

38. Danny Granger

39. Tyreke Evans

40. Kevin Martin

41. Stephen Jackson

42. Andrew Bynum

43. Luis Scola

44. David West

45. Ray Allen

46. Luol Deng

47. Gerald Wallace

48. Brandon Jennings

49. Andrew Bogut

[Ghost01Participant]

Heres my 50, i lost someone, let me know if you can figure out who it is cuz i cant lol
 

 

Right now, in terms of talent, not career accomplishments:

1. Lebron

2. Dwight Howard

3. D Wade

4. Derrick Rose

5. Kevin Durant

6. Kobe Bryant

7. Dirk

8. Russell Westbrook

9. Rajon Rondo

10. Gasol

11. Deron Williams

12. Carmelo Anthony

13. Chris Paul

14. Blake Griffin

15. Amare Stoudamire

16. Chris Bosh

17. Tim Duncan

18. LaMarcus Aldridge

19. Manu Ginobli

20. Zach Randolph

21. Kevin Garnett

22. Carlos Boozer

23. Joakim Noah

24. Paul Pierce

25. Steve Nash

26. Steph Curry

27. Monta Ellis

28. Al Horford

29. Eric Gordon

30. Tony Parker

31. Kevin love

32. Rudy Gay

33. David West

34. Josh Smith

35. Iguodala

36. Joe Johnson

37. John Wall

38. Danny Granger

39. Tyreke Evans

40. Kevin Martin

41. Stephen Jackson

42. Andrew Bynum

43. Luis Scola

44. David West

45. Ray Allen

46. Luol Deng

47. Gerald Wallace

48. Brandon Jennings

49. Andrew Bogut

[llperez]

how has brandon jennings establiched himself as a top 50 player? He is averaging 16 and 5 assists while shooting 38% and on a bad team. And how come no one is showing odom lovem he is getting better numbers then jennings while coming off the bench as a 4th option on one ofthe best teams in the league. Im prettys ure if someone is a strong all-star candidate by just about every source out there, that makes them a top 50 player. Put odom on milwaukee and he is getting about 19 and 12 boards and close to those 5 assists that jennings is getting.

[llperez]

how has brandon jennings establiched himself as a top 50 player? He is averaging 16 and 5 assists while shooting 38% and on a bad team. And how come no one is showing odom lovem he is getting better numbers then jennings while coming off the bench as a 4th option on one ofthe best teams in the league. Im prettys ure if someone is a strong all-star candidate by just about every source out there, that makes them a top 50 player. Put odom on milwaukee and he is getting about 19 and 12 boards and close to those 5 assists that jennings is getting.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Because Odom’s numbers I feel is with Bynum out. Last season, he averaged 10-9 last season and even when he was a starter, he was in the 13-15 range. Like I said, He’s had a good 1st half, but I don’t think he’s a top 50 player.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Because Odom’s numbers I feel is with Bynum out. Last season, he averaged 10-9 last season and even when he was a starter, he was in the 13-15 range. Like I said, He’s had a good 1st half, but I don’t think he’s a top 50 player.

[llperez]

but you include demarcous cousins who is a rookie? Odom has put up stats in the past its not like this is his first year he was in all-star game talks.

[llperez]

but you include demarcous cousins who is a rookie? Odom has put up stats in the past its not like this is his first year he was in all-star game talks.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Did I not say I think he could get there at the end of the season AND that this is a draft?

Odom is alright, not a top 50 guy.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Did I not say I think he could get there at the end of the season AND that this is a draft?

Odom is alright, not a top 50 guy.

[llperez]

so by this is a draft and cousins can become top 50, this list is based on potential?

[llperez]

so by this is a draft and cousins can become top 50, this list is based on potential?

[llperez]

and odom is more then "all right" shooting 56% from the floor and a legit all-star candidate who coulkd probably get 18-12-5 on most teams.

[llperez]

and odom is more then "all right" shooting 56% from the floor and a legit all-star candidate who coulkd probably get 18-12-5 on most teams.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I said, by the end of the season, Cousins can be on this list.  It’s a list based on: Overall, Next 5 seasons, Value, Contract and Intangables.

 

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I said, by the end of the season, Cousins can be on this list.  It’s a list based on: Overall, Next 5 seasons, Value, Contract and Intangables.

 

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

legit all-star candidate who coulkd probably get 18-12-5 on most teams.

 

So why couldn’t he do it when it was him and Kobe? Stop, he’s not a 18-12-5 guy. That’s that LA Bias talk

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

legit all-star candidate who coulkd probably get 18-12-5 on most teams.

 

So why couldn’t he do it when it was him and Kobe? Stop, he’s not a 18-12-5 guy. That’s that LA Bias talk

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There is no explanation for why DeMarcus Cousins is ranked higher than Lamar Odom. I don’t care if you look at age, contract, potential or whatever… There’s just no explanation.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There is no explanation for why DeMarcus Cousins is ranked higher than Lamar Odom. I don’t care if you look at age, contract, potential or whatever… There’s just no explanation.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

IF this list is based on next five seasons, then Blake Griffin is top five.

And will Kobe really be the third best player in the league in the next five seasons?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

IF this list is based on next five seasons, then Blake Griffin is top five.

And will Kobe really be the third best player in the league in the next five seasons?

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

There is no explanation for why DeMarcus Cousins is ranked higher than Lamar Odom. I don’t care if you look at age, contract, potential or whatever… There’s just no explanation.

 

…..It’s a draft. Relax. If Cousins has a fantastic 2nd half of the season, I wanna see what people say then. I think after the all star break, Cousins is gonna shine and be a legit center in the NBA. That’s why I put him at 50, because I can see him cracking the list with a good 2nd half. You call it crazy, I call it look ahead.

 

Also, Lamar Odom isn’t that good. He’s alright.

[Ghost01Participant]

Kobe wont even be a top 20 player in 5 seasons…he might not even be in the league for that matter.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

There is no explanation for why DeMarcus Cousins is ranked higher than Lamar Odom. I don’t care if you look at age, contract, potential or whatever… There’s just no explanation.

 

…..It’s a draft. Relax. If Cousins has a fantastic 2nd half of the season, I wanna see what people say then. I think after the all star break, Cousins is gonna shine and be a legit center in the NBA. That’s why I put him at 50, because I can see him cracking the list with a good 2nd half. You call it crazy, I call it look ahead.

 

Also, Lamar Odom isn’t that good. He’s alright.

[Ghost01Participant]

Kobe wont even be a top 20 player in 5 seasons…he might not even be in the league for that matter.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

IF this list is based on next five seasons, then Blake Griffin is top five.

– 5 things are listed….keep reading

And will Kobe really be the third best player in the league in the next five seasons?

-This is a list for one season, next season, Kobe will be lower and so on and so forth.

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

IF this list is based on next five seasons, then Blake Griffin is top five.

– 5 things are listed….keep reading

And will Kobe really be the third best player in the league in the next five seasons?

-This is a list for one season, next season, Kobe will be lower and so on and so forth.

 

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

David West is not a creation of Cp3. He was still scoring 19-20ppg with Paul out last year. The man can ball with or without Paul,Paul just makes it easier

 

And no one knows who will be what in Five years to far to really predict

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

David West is not a creation of Cp3. He was still scoring 19-20ppg with Paul out last year. The man can ball with or without Paul,Paul just makes it easier

 

And no one knows who will be what in Five years to far to really predict

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

David West is not a creation of Cp3. He was still scoring 19-20ppg with Paul out last year. The man can ball with or without Paul,Paul just makes it easier

– He had a couple good games without Paul last season. I think if Paul wasn’t there, he’d be worst IMO. Honestly, I rather have Luis Scola then West. Milsap as well then West.

 

And no one knows who will be what in Five years to far to really predict

– I never said I did, I’m just projecting based on my opinion on each player. I didn’t set a exact level for each year in the next 5 seasons, I just try and project.

 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

David West is not a creation of Cp3. He was still scoring 19-20ppg with Paul out last year. The man can ball with or without Paul,Paul just makes it easier

– He had a couple good games without Paul last season. I think if Paul wasn’t there, he’d be worst IMO. Honestly, I rather have Luis Scola then West. Milsap as well then West.

 

And no one knows who will be what in Five years to far to really predict

– I never said I did, I’m just projecting based on my opinion on each player. I didn’t set a exact level for each year in the next 5 seasons, I just try and project.

 

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

Couple good games? He played 40 or so games without Paul there and averaged 1 less point then the previous season when Paul was there. Thats more than a couple of good games.

 

David West isn’t scoring by Paul driving and the defender goes to Paul then west gets a easy layup. He scores off of backing players down and jump hook or face up and hitting a mid range jumper in there face. West has game

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

Couple good games? He played 40 or so games without Paul there and averaged 1 less point then the previous season when Paul was there. Thats more than a couple of good games.

 

David West isn’t scoring by Paul driving and the defender goes to Paul then west gets a easy layup. He scores off of backing players down and jump hook or face up and hitting a mid range jumper in there face. West has game

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

That’s cool, I just don’t like his game. Milsap and Scola are players I rather have personally. I’ll consider him in the summer top 50 and he might get in.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

That’s cool, I just don’t like his game. Milsap and Scola are players I rather have personally. I’ll consider him in the summer top 50 and he might get in.

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

To be honest i don’t like his game either..lol..but i gotta give him his due because he gets it done

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

To be honest i don’t like his game either..lol..but i gotta give him his due because he gets it done

[llperez]

"So why couldn’t he do it when it was him and Kobe? Stop, he’s not a 18-12-5 guy. That’s that LA Bias talk"

did you miss the part about him having a career season? He is currently getting 15-10-3 ion 33 minutes as a 4th option. Put him on lots of other teams and you dont thnk he could get an extra 3 points 2 rebounds and 2 assists? Your comments about he is "okay or all right" when everyone around the nba from announcers to coaches to media mentioned him as an all-star candidate. In fact, odom throughout his career has never been just "all right", he is a very good player and border line all-star and has been for quite some time. The west was just stacked this year with bigs.

[llperez]

"So why couldn’t he do it when it was him and Kobe? Stop, he’s not a 18-12-5 guy. That’s that LA Bias talk"

did you miss the part about him having a career season? He is currently getting 15-10-3 ion 33 minutes as a 4th option. Put him on lots of other teams and you dont thnk he could get an extra 3 points 2 rebounds and 2 assists? Your comments about he is "okay or all right" when everyone around the nba from announcers to coaches to media mentioned him as an all-star candidate. In fact, odom throughout his career has never been just "all right", he is a very good player and border line all-star and has been for quite some time. The west was just stacked this year with bigs.

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

Are y’all refering to Odom? His best numbers were 17.1ppg 10.6reb and 5.9 ast. Not all in the same year but those were his best years in each catagory

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

Are y’all refering to Odom? His best numbers were 17.1ppg 10.6reb and 5.9 ast. Not all in the same year but those were his best years in each catagory

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

He had 17-9-4 in Miami in 03….I don’t know if you call this year a career year. To be honest, I watched him play most of his career, he’s never been that nice. He’s a guy who can do all the things you want, I agree, but if he’s realisitcally not a 3rd option on a good team and a better 6th man.

If you moved Odom to a team like Milwaukee, he’d be a 14-8-4 guy realistically. He has the tendency to coast in games, he’s always had a questionable shot selection and overall? He’s just not a guy who does it every night. He has had a good 1st half, but that’s without Bynum.

Also…a all star for a while now?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/odomla01.html

 

Man has not been a allstar at all IMO.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

He had 17-9-4 in Miami in 03….I don’t know if you call this year a career year. To be honest, I watched him play most of his career, he’s never been that nice. He’s a guy who can do all the things you want, I agree, but if he’s realisitcally not a 3rd option on a good team and a better 6th man.

If you moved Odom to a team like Milwaukee, he’d be a 14-8-4 guy realistically. He has the tendency to coast in games, he’s always had a questionable shot selection and overall? He’s just not a guy who does it every night. He has had a good 1st half, but that’s without Bynum.

Also…a all star for a while now?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/odomla01.html

 

Man has not been a allstar at all IMO.

[llperez]

hes also shooting 10 percentage points higher then his career average and 5 percentage points higher then his career 3pt shooting. He is averaging less turnovers then he has any other year but once. His efficiency is at an all time high. his points and rebounding are both higher then his career average despte playing less minutes. Put him on some other teams and i thnk his stats rise.

In any case im not trying to nit pick becasue a top 50 list is hard to do, but i dont see any valid argument for cousins ahead of odom unless we are going based off potneital which apparently knicksboy is taking into consideration.

[llperez]

hes also shooting 10 percentage points higher then his career average and 5 percentage points higher then his career 3pt shooting. He is averaging less turnovers then he has any other year but once. His efficiency is at an all time high. his points and rebounding are both higher then his career average despte playing less minutes. Put him on some other teams and i thnk his stats rise.

In any case im not trying to nit pick becasue a top 50 list is hard to do, but i dont see any valid argument for cousins ahead of odom unless we are going based off potneital which apparently knicksboy is taking into consideration.

[llperez]

so are you saying send odom to milwaukee where he is clearly the best pf on the team and his stats drop? He has only averaged less then 9 rebounds once in the last 8 seasons and you dont thnk he could do that in milwaukee right now?

[llperez]

so are you saying send odom to milwaukee where he is clearly the best pf on the team and his stats drop? He has only averaged less then 9 rebounds once in the last 8 seasons and you dont thnk he could do that in milwaukee right now?

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I think he’s rebound numbers would drop with Bogut right next to him yes.

 

Also, did you really nitpick on one rebound?

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I think he’s rebound numbers would drop with Bogut right next to him yes.

 

Also, did you really nitpick on one rebound?

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

Odom is clearly better than just a 6th man. Thats not even debateable. And he was the third option on back to back championship teams(while Bynum was hurt). You can’t be more of a proven 3rd option then that can you?

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

Odom is clearly better than just a 6th man. Thats not even debateable. And he was the third option on back to back championship teams(while Bynum was hurt). You can’t be more of a proven 3rd option then that can you?

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

Why wouldn’t odom be able to get more rebounds with the bucks?..Gasol and Bogut get about the same amount of Rebounds for there career and Odom wouldn’t have to share boards with Kobe

[K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR]

Why wouldn’t odom be able to get more rebounds with the bucks?..Gasol and Bogut get about the same amount of Rebounds for there career and Odom wouldn’t have to share boards with Kobe

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I never said Odom was JUST a 6th man. I think he’s a better 6th man then starter IMO

Also, Bynum was there for the last title, he wasn’t as healthy as a ox, but he was there. I just don’t think he’s a top 50 player.

 

The list is not all potential, I feel by seasons’ end, Cousins can be on the list with a strong second half.  Do I need to keep repeating that?

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

I never said Odom was JUST a 6th man. I think he’s a better 6th man then starter IMO

Also, Bynum was there for the last title, he wasn’t as healthy as a ox, but he was there. I just don’t think he’s a top 50 player.

 

The list is not all potential, I feel by seasons’ end, Cousins can be on the list with a strong second half.  Do I need to keep repeating that?

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Why wouldn’t odom be able to get more rebounds with the bucks?..Gasol and Bogut get about the same amount of Rebounds for there career and Odom wouldn’t have to share boards with Kobe

 

He’d go to the Bucks, he’d share with Bogut, Illusova, Gooden and Moute

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Why wouldn’t odom be able to get more rebounds with the bucks?..Gasol and Bogut get about the same amount of Rebounds for there career and Odom wouldn’t have to share boards with Kobe

 

He’d go to the Bucks, he’d share with Bogut, Illusova, Gooden and Moute

[llperez]

he would get 35 minutes a night with the bucks and sharing the boards with bynum, pau as well wings like kobe and artest is toguher to fight for rebounds then the bucks guys. Lakers are 4th in the nba in rebounding while the bukcs are 14th, odom’s rebounding should only go up not down.

[llperez]

he would get 35 minutes a night with the bucks and sharing the boards with bynum, pau as well wings like kobe and artest is toguher to fight for rebounds then the bucks guys. Lakers are 4th in the nba in rebounding while the bukcs are 14th, odom’s rebounding should only go up not down.

[TRC1991Participant]

cousins shouldnt be on there…tony parker is too high IMO…and so is randolph…al jefferson a little low

[TRC1991Participant]

cousins shouldnt be on there…tony parker is too high IMO…and so is randolph…al jefferson a little low

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 I would be shocked if he is a top 50 player at the end of this year.  He is the most foul prone player in the league and he has terrible shot selection.  A center who shoots 43% from the field, doesn’t block shots, and is a good, but not great rebounder, is not close to a top 50 player, especially if they don’t have great intangibles and are a rookie.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 I would be shocked if he is a top 50 player at the end of this year.  He is the most foul prone player in the league and he has terrible shot selection.  A center who shoots 43% from the field, doesn’t block shots, and is a good, but not great rebounder, is not close to a top 50 player, especially if they don’t have great intangibles and are a rookie.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Cousin’s shouldn’t be on there.

If you’re saying you expect Cousin’s to have a strong 2nd half.  Is it possible for me to say Jeff Green is going to average a triple double for the rest of the season?

No.  Base it on what they’ve done so far this season, not what they CAN do the 2nd half of the season.  If it’s about what they CAN do, Dwight CAN easily have a horrible 2nd half.  Kobe CAN completely catch fire.  Dwyane Wade CAN get injured.  Russell Westbrook CAN start scoring 28ppg.

 

Don’t say what they CAN do, say what they are currently doing and what they’ve done this season.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Cousin’s shouldn’t be on there.

If you’re saying you expect Cousin’s to have a strong 2nd half.  Is it possible for me to say Jeff Green is going to average a triple double for the rest of the season?

No.  Base it on what they’ve done so far this season, not what they CAN do the 2nd half of the season.  If it’s about what they CAN do, Dwight CAN easily have a horrible 2nd half.  Kobe CAN completely catch fire.  Dwyane Wade CAN get injured.  Russell Westbrook CAN start scoring 28ppg.

 

Don’t say what they CAN do, say what they are currently doing and what they’ve done this season.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

@Toungeout

Like I said….this is a draft.

 

So the odds Cousins have a strong second half is the same as Green averageing a triple double? Nope. That was ONE player I put on there for what I think they CAN do. You making it like all these players are thier for what they CAN do. Relax man.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

@Toungeout

Like I said….this is a draft.

 

So the odds Cousins have a strong second half is the same as Green averageing a triple double? Nope. That was ONE player I put on there for what I think they CAN do. You making it like all these players are thier for what they CAN do. Relax man.

[PureshooterParticipant]

I still don’t see why Rose should be ranked higher than Paul.  Rose is a better scorer, but in just about every other category Paul is ahead statistically this season.  Paul is leading the league in steals while Rose isn’t even in the top 50.  Paul is ahead in assists per game as well as assist/turnover ratio.  Rose is a highlight reel scorer, but I just feel Paul is a better point guard. 

[PureshooterParticipant]

I still don’t see why Rose should be ranked higher than Paul.  Rose is a better scorer, but in just about every other category Paul is ahead statistically this season.  Paul is leading the league in steals while Rose isn’t even in the top 50.  Paul is ahead in assists per game as well as assist/turnover ratio.  Rose is a highlight reel scorer, but I just feel Paul is a better point guard. 

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

@Pureshooter

 

I’m actuallyy shocked more people aren’t cool with Rose in the top 5. I love Rose’s game. I think he’s a really good PG and his numbers are increasing. CP3 is probably the better player, but I perfer Rose. I feel CP3 is getting a little injury prone and he’s slowing down a bit. His knee issues from last year have seemed to linger. I know he’s still good, but I like Rose right now.

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

@Pureshooter

 

I’m actuallyy shocked more people aren’t cool with Rose in the top 5. I love Rose’s game. I think he’s a really good PG and his numbers are increasing. CP3 is probably the better player, but I perfer Rose. I feel CP3 is getting a little injury prone and he’s slowing down a bit. His knee issues from last year have seemed to linger. I know he’s still good, but I like Rose right now.

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