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  • #65519
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    SlickBouncePass
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    For all the Philly people and NBA fans:

    The 76ers aren’t playing to lose right now.  They won 4/last5.They are learning how to win, beating teams that are their equal.  Ben Simmons, the best passer in the league by the end of the season, is practicing.  

    Simmons I assume will be back in Februrary.  He isn’t just hanging around the team to keep loose before next year.  The boy is going to play, and the Sixers have figured out how to play.  They are 8 games out of the 8th seed in the East.  Simmons makes everyone on the court better, if you don’t think he is an upgrade over McConnell and Sergio, or helps the team even at 20 minutes per game, how can I help you see the light?  Simmons will only help this team, meaning its very unlikely they will finish in the bottom 3 given the way they are playing.

    Brooklyn, Dallas, Miami, Minnesota, Pheonix, Philly, Denver, LAL:

    I think it’ll end up Brooklyn, Miami, Pheonix, and Philly for the bottom 4, and the Lakers finishing somewhere in the bottom 8.

    Let’s assume Philly has two picks anywhere from 4 to 8.

    The Guys I hope Philly drafts:  

    Fultz – ability to score and play off the ball is ideal with Embiid and Simmons. Doubtful at this point.  Its the best place for him to play as well, nowhere else is he as likely to win in a few years.

    Jackson – questionable shot but I don’t care, he does everything else like get to the rim and play off the ball, he’d be a great compliment to drive and dish to Simmons.

    Isaac – great size, ability ot handle, great shot.  May be a better fit than Josh Jackson and thats just fine being that we are likely not to pick before 4 this year.

    Monk – great shot and athleticism.  Haven’t seen much creativity with the ball but thats okay we could still use his scoring.  He’s a major upgrade over our guards.  

    Markkanen – A great shooting bigman.  He’s better than Ilyasova, not really a major need but he is not someone I would mind at all seeing on our roster, because let’s face it, we need all the shooting we can get.  He’d be a nice compliment to Embiid.

    Ntilinka – great size for position and showing an improved shot.  Textbook PG with excellent defense and can shoot, why not? He’d help us out for sure, an upgrade.

    Guys I wouldn’t be upset about:

    Lonzo Ball – not his biggest fan for what we have in Philly.  I like the fact taht he can shoot from distance, and is a good passer but dang, someone has to score in Philly.  Simmons won’t be able to score.  But Simmons is already the best passer in the game…do we really need to spend another pick on a guy that is a great passer but can’t score unless its from deep?  I woudln’t be upset, but I’d rather grab Isaac and Monk if they are there.

    De’Aaron Fox – kid can help us because I think his speed hasn’t been on full display in college.  This guy can go coast to coast no doubt.  he is a floor general, and plays great D, only problem is his shooting and in a half court set he doesn’t help the Sixers.  I’d take him, but only if the guys on my wish list aren’t available.

    Ferguson – need to see more but intrigued by his athleticism at guard and shooting, two things Philly guards sorely lack.

    Giles – Injury worries me and he looks slow but you see flashes of really good scoring.  If Philly were to sign him I’d have no problem with moving both Noel and Oak.  right now I only want to move Oak.  But I think you have too many needs elsewhere for them to draft another around the basket scorer.  I just woudln’t be upset if we ended up with him late in the lottery.

    Haartenstein – another big skilled european, a nice compliment with better size than Ilyasova/Saric to play alongside Embiid that can shoot.  If we end up via trade for Okafor with an early 20s 1st rounder, I’d take him.  I woudln’t be upset.

     

    Guys I don’t want for Philly: These are guys I don’t want to see drafted regardless of where we pick in the first 20.

    Dennis Smith Jr. – He reminds me too much of a video game phenom.  Great 1 on 1 player and although we need a guy that can break you down, his size is too much of a question, along with injury history.  Don’t want him.  Undersized, unreliable shot, hasn’t shown an ability ot make others around him better.

    Jayson Tatum – puts up too many shots and is too trigger happy.  Has great size but again, I’d rather have Isaac.  Lazy on defense at times too, doesn’t come off a high IQ make everyone around him better type player.  He is an NBA player in college, but I just dont’ want him.

    OG Anunoby – upperclassman, solid D, but I’ve seen too many of this type.  Muscular NBA build, Stanley Johnson, Justice Winslow, but questionable shot.  They dont’ give you enough.  Why settle for this when you can grab Isaac?

    Miles Bridges – an effort guy and a tweener.  Don’t want him, doubt we’ll take him at this point.

     

    So for me, realistically, 4 and 8 is likely where we may end up picking.  I am hoping Isaac and Monk are available.

    if they are not, I suggest taking Isaac as the swingman before taking Monk at shooting guard, and then with the 8th pick grabbing that PG like Frank Ntilinka.

    Ntilinka, Isaac, Simmons, Ilyasova, Embiid…

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    Monk, Isaac, Simmons, Ilyasova, Embiid…

    obviously Fultz is my ideal and Jackson a great consolation prize, but realistically, right now I want Isaac and Monk as my best fits for Philly. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

      

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  • #1090706
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     Could you imagine a lineup of Simmons, Doesn’t matter, Isaac, Markkanen, Embiid.  So long and skilled.  They are so long they might be able to legitimately play a zone.  Offense would be too easy.

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  • #1090707
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    markfitz14
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    getting the player/s that fit right. 

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  • #1090709
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    binet
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     I personally hate Markannen. If you want a pseudo-Porzingis go true euro and take Pasecniks. Markannen does not defend, does not rebound, does not run well. Shooting alone is not enough.

     

     

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  • #1090710
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    You need to get Simmons on the court to see how he plays and fits.

    If expected he will handle and distribute the ball a lot, I would look at Malik Monk as he is a very good shooter. I don’t know or care if he is a combo guard /pg / small SG, the guy can play and shoot.

    They have quite a few young players, I would be inclined to trade one of the picks for a young veteran (3-4th year pro)

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  • #1090711
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    I still like Korkmaz as a prospect – you took him in last years draft. He should of been taken earlier than 26th overall

    http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-76ers/sixers-draft-pick-furkan-korkmaz-drops-20-champions-league-debut?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

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    • #1090712
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      negguary
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      are sleeeeeeeeeeeping on this pick upp!! I see him as our manu, and being that brett came form the spurs I see Breet using him just like they did Ginobli! Can shoot, slash and can dunk!! Once he puts on more weight it’s a wrap especially with Simmons controlling the pace and dishing the rock and Embeast getting doubled in the paint. This is why I don’t think it’s that big a deal if we get a 2, we need a one that can shoot and play off the ball, and a wing that can score or defend with a good shot. FURKANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!

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      • #1090721
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        holefillers1
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         Korky? Haha, jk, love that guy. Also loving what TLC is doing with his new found minutes. Ivwanted Patrick McCaw but Luwawu is improving on a gm by gm basis. 

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        • #1090728
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          SlickBouncePass
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          obviously they are international guys and a year or two away.

          I like Luwawu a lot, they finally did it but I was yelling at my tv for Brett Brown to get TLC minutes over someone like Hollis Thompson and even Stauskas who were defensive liabilities.  Stauskas has shown improvement especially as a backup PG.  To be honest I like TJ starting and Stauskas as backup PG right now.  Sergio dribbles way too much and doesen’t play well in Brown’s move the ball system.  He also always misses the obvious go-to postup player.

          Luwawu is athletic, he has all the time in the world to gain experience, but he is your only guard that can blow by you, the problem is they never taught him how to pass in Europe, just how to play one on one ball.  Which is helpful actually for Philly since nobody can do it.  He will be a significant player and I see him as an 8th or 9th guy on our squad.

          Furkan looks sick with all the skills of a 2-guard, the only thing I hear is that his shot is somewhat inconsistent (watching youtube would have you thinking TLC will be dunking like Lebron), and his body is really immature.  I think he is still at least another year away but it will be interesting once his body does mature. 

          Philly is obviously gonna draft at the 1,2, and 3 positions this year.  I’d love if we made a play for Lowry, but he made DeRozan stay there, very doubtful he’ll leave.

          Anyway because I’m excited here is my two year projection:

          C:  Embiid, Noel

          PF: Ilyasova, Saric

          SF: Simmons, ________

          SG: ________, TLC, Korkmaz

          PG: ________, Bayless, Stauskas, TJ McConnell

          I assume Simmons backup will be Covington but I am not in love with him, he is too trigger happy on the 3.  If we can upgrade there via trading Okafor for a veteran I’m fine with that.  Or Maybe Saric is your 3/4 backup.  Or Maybe you just draft Markkanen and trade both Oak and Saric.  How much time are you going to get backing up Simmons?  

          SG is where I love penciling in a 6’10” Jonathan Isaac.  Smooth stroke.  Crazy length.  

          PG isn’t as crucial as we think with Simmons.  Plus we have Bayless and I am fine with Stauskas and TJMc.  We just need a guy that can get his own.  Fultz is ideal, but would be a dream but not likely to happen.  I’m fine with Monk’s elite athleticism and good shooting here.  Otherwise we go with Frank Ntilinka or DeAaron Fox, whichever of them can shoot.  

           

          So finally:

          Embiid, Noel, Ilyasova, Simmons, (Oak plus Saric to Orlando?), to grab Lauri Markkanen.

          Isaac, Monk, TLC, Bayless, Korkmaz, Stauskas, McConnell

          Thats your 12 man roster.  

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

            

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  • #1090714
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    Sewok15
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    I don’t see James Blackmon Jr. mocked anywhere but if he were to come out he would be a great target for them in the early 2nd round. He can flat out knock down shots somebody will covet that. 

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  • #1090737
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    Sorry Slick’ but I can’t see how you can take Fox over Smith. Fox is everything the Sixers don’t need; a ball dominate guard that can’t shoot. They already traded Elfird Payton once, they don’t need to draft him again.

    Top on my list is Fultz, if they keep winning an miss out on him then I take Smith. And even if I get Fultz/Smith with the first pick I’m taking Ntilinka, if he’s still there, with the 2nd pick

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    • #1090751
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      SlickBouncePass
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       fox is a floor general and a very good on ball defender who is really quick and will be able to take off from one end of the court to the other.  its true he can’t play without the ball, and can’t shoot from the outside.

      but Dennis Smith comes off a high volume scorer, not an efficient scorer.  Dennis Smith is NOT the defender Fox is.  And there is nothing that really says Smith will be a guy that can come off screens.  Yeah he’ll get his own shot and collapse defenses, but Fox can do that too.

      Thanks for reading my post though bro. 

      So you’d have

      Fultz/Smith Ntilinka Simmons Ilyasova Embiid

      where I’d have

      Ntilinka/Fox Isaac Simmons Ilyasova Embiid.  which is a 6’7” and 6’10’ x 4 lineup.  

       

      BTW the likelihood is Smith vs Isaac.   I’d rather have Isaac be my 2-guard and then draft Ntilinka or Fox.  Not have Smith be one of my guards to play along Simmons.

      It’d be interesting I just think you have more of a squad with Isaac Ntilinka (better scoring)

      than Smith Ntilinka.

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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      • #1090752
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        Good points but still not sold on Fox, would not take him in the top ten.

        Also doubt if Ilyasova is resigned. Some one is going to give him silly money. Maybe they take a guy like Markkanen, with the Lakers pick, to replace him.

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  • #1090749
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     They just basically dog walked the Hornets to their 3rd straight win making it 5 out of their last 6.  They re defense was absolutely dominate being spearheaded by McConnel who put the clamps on Kemba.

     

    Watching McConnell perimeter defense disrupt lead guards while Embiid locks down everything inside the arc makes me realize why Brown wanted Dunn instead of Hield or Murray.

     

    They are building a defensive juggernaut that will be theyre identity.  Embiid might get DPOY votes as a rookie hes that good.

     

    On offense wit Ben and JoJo they just need players to hit open shots.

     

    Frank Ntikilini may be the best fit

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1090750
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      SlickBouncePass
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      Frank and Isaac, or monk and isaac. 

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  • #1090757
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    Hitster
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     Philly have been on a nice run recently and Embeast has been playing superbly. I don’t see them making the play offs but they won’t be the worse team in the league by a long way. I think they will stay where they are as about 13th out East but their draft lottery position will hugely depend on how the West pans out, there are 4 or 5 teams who could finish above or below them in the overall standings.

    If Philly could go anything like 0.500 for the rest of the season it would be a great achivement and get them close to 35 wins. Realistically I think 30 wins would be a good figure for them to aim at and when Simmons gets on court it will give them a boost and Embeast will play a bit more as the season progresses.

     

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