[HinkieAndFalkParticipant]

So what if okafor has a monster season what if hes by far the best player in draft and the sixers have a chance to draft him, should they? Yes they have 2 centers already but if you look at memphis zack randolph isnt the best defensive pf he plays with another big who just so happens to be able to play inside and outside. They also drafted a young thabeet hoping to have a three headed front court monster.

The sixers have a player in joel who can also play inside and outside.Noel is a athletic defensive stud. So could okafor play with embiid and noel? I think he could the fanbase will take a huge hit but drafting the best 3 bigs of the last 3 drafts isnt that horrible of a choice. I know we need wings but if okafor is a absolute beast how can we pass on him?

 

Also this year we need to not go after any free agents we need to keep these 4 prospects on our big board for the next 2 years untill further notice.

Kelly oubre,Stanley johnson,       jaylen brown,Ben simmons.

once bradley beal becomes a free agent we must outbid the wizards by all means a 23 year old beal to pair with mcw,joel,noel,2015 picks,2016 picks. will be a great start.

ben falk and hinkie will change the Atlantic division forever once the core is made. 

 

 

 

 

[Anton123Participant]

 I’m sure that whether or not Okafor fits with the team – he should be drafted if he is the best available talent.

A team recently drafted a very talented SF who they didn’t really need and got Kevin Love as a result of that. You can always move super talented players for better fits. Getting too many terrific players is a great problem to have.

The bigger thing is that nobody guarantees Philly the number one pick, I’d say there is about a 75% chance they don’t get it.

[Anton123Participant]

 I’m sure that whether or not Okafor fits with the team – he should be drafted if he is the best available talent.

A team recently drafted a very talented SF who they didn’t really need and got Kevin Love as a result of that. You can always move super talented players for better fits. Getting too many terrific players is a great problem to have.

The bigger thing is that nobody guarantees Philly the number one pick, I’d say there is about a 75% chance they don’t get it.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 I think it comes down to how many guys are in that 1st Tier.  If Okafor is the only guy in there then take him.

Well, even Mudiay kind of does (probably) what MCW and Tony Wroten already do.  Or, even an Elliott Williams.

I guess they could trade DOWN and maybe look at Rondae Hollis-Jefferson as their Iggy replacement.

Or, Sam Dekker as OPPOSITE DR. J.

Yeah it looks like this is a big man draft with a combo guard in Mudiay thrown in.

Also, Towns and Montrezl Harrell are good, but they are also bigs.

On the other hand, not sure that Embiid and Noel can complement each other 40 minutes a night either.  Unless Embiid’s shot is for real.  So you almost need a legit power forward there.  Then, yeah, go with a 3 big man rotation.  I don’t want Embiid or Noel playing 40 minutes a night.  Maybe not even 35…

I know it is preseason but I liked Noel’s line the other night (other than the 6 fouls).  8 points, 8 boards, 5 blocks, and 5 steals.

Ok, I think they really need a power forward who can both score (inside) and shoot (outside).

I think there is some depth too, so get a guy like Andrew Harrison as a shooter on the wing.

Get guys who can fill the important spots: point guard, center, and power forward.  THEN go after guys on the wing that complements the rest of the cast.

I don’t think the Sixers should go after a 2nd tier center or a 2nd tier point guard, but other than that, if a power forward is the best guy on the board — take him. Also, try to get some late first round picks to go after some wing depth.  3 and D guys basically.  

The wing spots in the NBA have some real talent at the top like LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, and Harden and Klay Thompson, but after that there are a lot of average guys out there.  Guys between 6’5 and 6’8 are less rare than 7 footers.

Their goal should to be to get the Best Player Available with their first pick and then try to move up with 2nd rounders and throwaway guys to get another pick to try to get the next Kawhi Leonard or even a Danny Green type (GREAT shooter with really good size and solid athleticism).  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 I think it comes down to how many guys are in that 1st Tier.  If Okafor is the only guy in there then take him.

Well, even Mudiay kind of does (probably) what MCW and Tony Wroten already do.  Or, even an Elliott Williams.

I guess they could trade DOWN and maybe look at Rondae Hollis-Jefferson as their Iggy replacement.

Or, Sam Dekker as OPPOSITE DR. J.

Yeah it looks like this is a big man draft with a combo guard in Mudiay thrown in.

Also, Towns and Montrezl Harrell are good, but they are also bigs.

On the other hand, not sure that Embiid and Noel can complement each other 40 minutes a night either.  Unless Embiid’s shot is for real.  So you almost need a legit power forward there.  Then, yeah, go with a 3 big man rotation.  I don’t want Embiid or Noel playing 40 minutes a night.  Maybe not even 35…

I know it is preseason but I liked Noel’s line the other night (other than the 6 fouls).  8 points, 8 boards, 5 blocks, and 5 steals.

Ok, I think they really need a power forward who can both score (inside) and shoot (outside).

I think there is some depth too, so get a guy like Andrew Harrison as a shooter on the wing.

Get guys who can fill the important spots: point guard, center, and power forward.  THEN go after guys on the wing that complements the rest of the cast.

I don’t think the Sixers should go after a 2nd tier center or a 2nd tier point guard, but other than that, if a power forward is the best guy on the board — take him. Also, try to get some late first round picks to go after some wing depth.  3 and D guys basically.  

The wing spots in the NBA have some real talent at the top like LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, and Harden and Klay Thompson, but after that there are a lot of average guys out there.  Guys between 6’5 and 6’8 are less rare than 7 footers.

Their goal should to be to get the Best Player Available with their first pick and then try to move up with 2nd rounders and throwaway guys to get another pick to try to get the next Kawhi Leonard or even a Danny Green type (GREAT shooter with really good size and solid athleticism).  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Philadelphia doesnt care about team fit or positional need. All they care about is the perceived value of eaxh prospect and longterm potential. They tried to trade thier rookie of the year for more assets and now they are sitting him out for longrr than expected to gaurantee a high draft pick. Team fit is irrelevant as of now.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Philadelphia doesnt care about team fit or positional need. All they care about is the perceived value of eaxh prospect and longterm potential. They tried to trade thier rookie of the year for more assets and now they are sitting him out for longrr than expected to gaurantee a high draft pick. Team fit is irrelevant as of now.

[theprophetParticipant]

 first off, i think by years end there won’t be a clear cut number one pick. second, i’m a believer in joel embiid with his versatility of on the court play that we witnessed in ncaa last year, but he’s hurt. third, let’s hold the phone on nerlens noel. he’s put in hard work to get healthy again, but the reality is that he has not shown me a lick of any offense period, and to stack that up against nba competition won’t be easy even if he did improve offensively since leaving kentucky. if he’s hurt that long, how much could he truly improve? and noel i’m not going to deny his defensive abilities, but he’s a twig. not saying he will be a bust, but hold the phone on the 76ers drafting the 3 best bigs in the last draft. it might be the case, but that’s a huge if. 

[theprophetParticipant]

 first off, i think by years end there won’t be a clear cut number one pick. second, i’m a believer in joel embiid with his versatility of on the court play that we witnessed in ncaa last year, but he’s hurt. third, let’s hold the phone on nerlens noel. he’s put in hard work to get healthy again, but the reality is that he has not shown me a lick of any offense period, and to stack that up against nba competition won’t be easy even if he did improve offensively since leaving kentucky. if he’s hurt that long, how much could he truly improve? and noel i’m not going to deny his defensive abilities, but he’s a twig. not saying he will be a bust, but hold the phone on the 76ers drafting the 3 best bigs in the last draft. it might be the case, but that’s a huge if. 

[HinkieAndFalkParticipant]

 some time before Larry sanders broke out he was almost cut. Noel has a lot of work to do but still raw as both are right now its pretty hard for players to score over both noel and embiid at the same time. Noel effects the game raw as he is on the d side.

The other reason Im leaning on okafor hes so developed if hes the real deal he can be a young al jeff or tim duncan I think hes better then they were at his age. The thing I love about a three headed okafor noel and embiid their big and fast. To be 272 okafor moves like a forward. Imagine once the training facility is built. 

 

 

I love stanley johnson and whos to say okafor is even the first pick. Im saying do we get a wing or take the third best center prospect out of the last 3 drafts. Al jeff and tim duncan played some pf. what about postionless basketball throw them in the frontcourt and make them figure it out okafor needs to be pair with a shot blocking big philly has two.

hinkie,falk,josh,brett&I are waiting on the summer of 2016 for bradley beal rfa and either Ben  simmons or jaylen brown.

 

right now its okafor and stanley im watching oubre we lost out big with wiggins and parker.

 

 

 

[HinkieAndFalkParticipant]

 some time before Larry sanders broke out he was almost cut. Noel has a lot of work to do but still raw as both are right now its pretty hard for players to score over both noel and embiid at the same time. Noel effects the game raw as he is on the d side.

The other reason Im leaning on okafor hes so developed if hes the real deal he can be a young al jeff or tim duncan I think hes better then they were at his age. The thing I love about a three headed okafor noel and embiid their big and fast. To be 272 okafor moves like a forward. Imagine once the training facility is built. 

 

 

I love stanley johnson and whos to say okafor is even the first pick. Im saying do we get a wing or take the third best center prospect out of the last 3 drafts. Al jeff and tim duncan played some pf. what about postionless basketball throw them in the frontcourt and make them figure it out okafor needs to be pair with a shot blocking big philly has two.

hinkie,falk,josh,brett&I are waiting on the summer of 2016 for bradley beal rfa and either Ben  simmons or jaylen brown.

 

right now its okafor and stanley im watching oubre we lost out big with wiggins and parker.

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

You need to chill with the Timmy D namedropping there. Theres no need for that, thats absolutely basketbalk blasphemy. Odds are Okafor does not get the same coaching, developing and tutoring that Duncan got to help him progress and become the player Duncan is unless he drops in the draft.

[HinkieAndFalkParticipant]

as I said before offensively he may be better then 10ppg freshmen duncan right now.

I never said he will be duncan but has the best low post offense since lopez entered in 2008 the last 6 years and lopez was compared to tim duncan in some circles.

 

[HinkieAndFalkParticipant]

as I said before offensively he may be better then 10ppg freshmen duncan right now.

I never said he will be duncan but has the best low post offense since lopez entered in 2008 the last 6 years and lopez was compared to tim duncan in some circles.

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

You need to chill with the Timmy D namedropping there. Theres no need for that, thats absolutely basketbalk blasphemy. Odds are Okafor does not get the same coaching, developing and tutoring that Duncan got to help him progress and become the player Duncan is unless he drops in the draft.

[Ebown5Participant]

I am a die hard Sixers fan and I would be THRILLED to draft Okafor number 1. Let’s say that we have Noel, Embiid and Okafor all healthy and on the roster at the same time. All three of them would be 21 years old or younger next year.

There are 96 big man minutes to go around and all three of them are likely to deal with foul trouble early in their career anyway, as most big men tend to do.

Figure out how they play together and rotate their minutes for a couple of years and see what you have. To me, Okafor is another Demarcus Cousins potentially, and I think that he and Embiid could play together fine since they both are ultra skilled and can shoot the ball at least out to 15 ft. 

Embiid is big and strong enough to play the 5, but skilled enough to play the 4 so he is the easiest one to play with. Okafor is clearly skilled enough to play the 4 offensively, and the 5 defensively. 

Noel is, at the very least, a defensive genius that could play with either of them defensively. If it turns out that one of them needs to be traded during their rookie contracts then trade one of them for an elite wing prospect. There is time to sort it out.

It would be a really good problem to have. The thing with the NBA draft is that you HAVE to take the best talent at the top of the draft. You can theoretically trade down a few spots if you really want to for a better fit, but you have to extract the value from the more talented player.

I am not sold on Oubre or Johnson at this point. I’m not saying that they can’t be great, but I am going to need to see them impress me this year for me to want to take either of them over the top 3 of Okafor, Towns or Mudiay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Ebown5Participant]

I am a die hard Sixers fan and I would be THRILLED to draft Okafor number 1. Let’s say that we have Noel, Embiid and Okafor all healthy and on the roster at the same time. All three of them would be 21 years old or younger next year.

There are 96 big man minutes to go around and all three of them are likely to deal with foul trouble early in their career anyway, as most big men tend to do.

Figure out how they play together and rotate their minutes for a couple of years and see what you have. To me, Okafor is another Demarcus Cousins potentially, and I think that he and Embiid could play together fine since they both are ultra skilled and can shoot the ball at least out to 15 ft. 

Embiid is big and strong enough to play the 5, but skilled enough to play the 4 so he is the easiest one to play with. Okafor is clearly skilled enough to play the 4 offensively, and the 5 defensively. 

Noel is, at the very least, a defensive genius that could play with either of them defensively. If it turns out that one of them needs to be traded during their rookie contracts then trade one of them for an elite wing prospect. There is time to sort it out.

It would be a really good problem to have. The thing with the NBA draft is that you HAVE to take the best talent at the top of the draft. You can theoretically trade down a few spots if you really want to for a better fit, but you have to extract the value from the more talented player.

I am not sold on Oubre or Johnson at this point. I’m not saying that they can’t be great, but I am going to need to see them impress me this year for me to want to take either of them over the top 3 of Okafor, Towns or Mudiay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[HitsterParticipant]

 You could say it would be an issue taking Okafor when Noel and Embiid are already in situ but there are 96mpg on the front court to be filled so each guy could easily play 30 odd mpg each if needed. My concern would be how they would work alongside each other with two needing to play major PF minutes if the 3 man rotation worked.

[HitsterParticipant]

 You could say it would be an issue taking Okafor when Noel and Embiid are already in situ but there are 96mpg on the front court to be filled so each guy could easily play 30 odd mpg each if needed. My concern would be how they would work alongside each other with two needing to play major PF minutes if the 3 man rotation worked.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

The only way the 76ers draft Okafor is if he gets injured and is expected to sit out at least half a season.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

The only way the 76ers draft Okafor is if he gets injured and is expected to sit out at least half a season.

[Ebown5Participant]

If they end up at the 4th pick and Okafor is still on the board, but is injured then they would take him. The point with the injured players is that they are getting higher ranked players at their draft spots because of the drafting team having to wait.

They will take who they believe to be the best player whenever they draft. 

[Ebown5Participant]

If they end up at the 4th pick and Okafor is still on the board, but is injured then they would take him. The point with the injured players is that they are getting higher ranked players at their draft spots because of the drafting team having to wait.

They will take who they believe to be the best player whenever they draft. 

[qDizzle32Participant]

Still too early to determine who the better prospects on the table will be.

The popular 2013 mock draft right after the 11-12 season

1. Shabazz Muhammad

2. Cody Zeller

3. Nerlens Noel

4. James Michael McAdoo

5. Alex Poythress

Of course this will be a stronger class than 2013, but there could definitely be somebody going in the Top 5 who nobody is projecting as of right now and one of those top high school players from last year may not reach their expectations.

 

 

 

 

 

[qDizzle32Participant]

Still too early to determine who the better prospects on the table will be.

The popular 2013 mock draft right after the 11-12 season

1. Shabazz Muhammad

2. Cody Zeller

3. Nerlens Noel

4. James Michael McAdoo

5. Alex Poythress

Of course this will be a stronger class than 2013, but there could definitely be somebody going in the Top 5 who nobody is projecting as of right now and one of those top high school players from last year may not reach their expectations.

 

 

 

 

 

[username_takenParticipant]

I still find it crazy how quickly McAdoo’s stock slipped. From projected lottery pick one year to undrafted the next.

[username_takenParticipant]

I still find it crazy how quickly McAdoo’s stock slipped. From projected lottery pick one year to undrafted the next.

[TenSecondTomParticipant]

Obviously not with the first pick, but I think that the best fit for Philly would be Mario Hezonja. 1. He fits a positional need (scoring winger), 2. He fits their developmental plan (can be stashed to further the tanking process), 3. He and Dario Saric could help one another reach their maximum potential by playing together in the NBA 4. I don’t believe they will have the first pick, so they might end up being in a spot where drafting him makes sense as far as Mario’s draft range goes. MCW, Hezonja, Saric, Noel, and Embiid are five solid building blocks to generate a youthful and talented team. They would be a FA signing or two away from truly making a splash in the East.

[EndlessknightParticipant]

I like the idea of drafting Hezonja, for all the seasons you mentioned, but the current mock on this site has him going 15th. It’s not inconceivable that the Sixers draft a guy like Oubre or Johnson with their pic, almost certainly top 4, and still manage to get Hezonja with the Heat’s pick. 

[EndlessknightParticipant]

I like the idea of drafting Hezonja, for all the seasons you mentioned, but the current mock on this site has him going 15th. It’s not inconceivable that the Sixers draft a guy like Oubre or Johnson with their pic, almost certainly top 4, and still manage to get Hezonja with the Heat’s pick. 

[TenSecondTomParticipant]

Obviously not with the first pick, but I think that the best fit for Philly would be Mario Hezonja. 1. He fits a positional need (scoring winger), 2. He fits their developmental plan (can be stashed to further the tanking process), 3. He and Dario Saric could help one another reach their maximum potential by playing together in the NBA 4. I don’t believe they will have the first pick, so they might end up being in a spot where drafting him makes sense as far as Mario’s draft range goes. MCW, Hezonja, Saric, Noel, and Embiid are five solid building blocks to generate a youthful and talented team. They would be a FA signing or two away from truly making a splash in the East.

[Jdean24Participant]

I personally believe they need too draft wing talent this year. Oubre I believe is the best wing prospect in the draft. Followed closely by Stanley Johnson.  Either one of those guys followed by another solid sg prospect would be the way too I think. Selden and Levert have potential too be difference makers I’m not sure Levert falls things far but Selden might given his numbers might not as good given the number of weapons at KU. Or if they could package that pick in an attempt too steal Bradley Beal from Washington somehow that would be great too.

[Jdean24Participant]

I personally believe they need too draft wing talent this year. Oubre I believe is the best wing prospect in the draft. Followed closely by Stanley Johnson.  Either one of those guys followed by another solid sg prospect would be the way too I think. Selden and Levert have potential too be difference makers I’m not sure Levert falls things far but Selden might given his numbers might not as good given the number of weapons at KU. Or if they could package that pick in an attempt too steal Bradley Beal from Washington somehow that would be great too.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Oubre, Johnson, LeVert or Selden would all be decent options in the current mock top 10 for Philly. But at the moment it is about amassing talent and then deciding how to use it. They have not yet got all their more recent drafted guys up and playing and reached a point where Brett Brown and Sam Hinkie can say they clearly need a guy in such a position as most other positions are now settled. Also we then get into the need over talent arguement about any draft.

The Okafor point is very valid but I would doubt Sam Hinkie is thinking about which individual to actually draft yet, he’d be getting scounting reports no doubt and they will be looking at most guys given their likely high lottery pick. But the real hard work starts post draft lottery when everyone knows where they are picking and has all the scouting reports to then sift through.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Oubre, Johnson, LeVert or Selden would all be decent options in the current mock top 10 for Philly. But at the moment it is about amassing talent and then deciding how to use it. They have not yet got all their more recent drafted guys up and playing and reached a point where Brett Brown and Sam Hinkie can say they clearly need a guy in such a position as most other positions are now settled. Also we then get into the need over talent arguement about any draft.

The Okafor point is very valid but I would doubt Sam Hinkie is thinking about which individual to actually draft yet, he’d be getting scounting reports no doubt and they will be looking at most guys given their likely high lottery pick. But the real hard work starts post draft lottery when everyone knows where they are picking and has all the scouting reports to then sift through.

 

[Ghost01Participant]

 If you look at how the Sixers are being constructed, I think regardless of who they were to draft, they should be the team to overpay and give the max to Klay Thompson in a couple years. They will have a ton of quality young players on cheap contracts, and Thompson fits exactly what their "potential" roster is lacking, a great shooter, as well as a 2 guard. 

[Ghost01Participant]

 If you look at how the Sixers are being constructed, I think regardless of who they were to draft, they should be the team to overpay and give the max to Klay Thompson in a couple years. They will have a ton of quality young players on cheap contracts, and Thompson fits exactly what their "potential" roster is lacking, a great shooter, as well as a 2 guard. 

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