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  • #56255
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    arjundhanoa
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    I just saw that Sim Bhullar had a workout scheduled with the Raptors (his hometown team) even though he’s only a college Sophomore.

    I believe the NBA draft early entry withdrawal date is long gone.

    I haven’t seen Sim on any mock drafts, but he’s a 7’5" guy who helped New Mexico State make the tourney with pretty solid numbers for a C.

    Any chance he’s selected like we’ve seen with the Thabeet’s (or even Podkolzine’s), of the world, or has the NBA simply moved beyond having a ‘big for nothing’ fill up minutes at the C?

    Kid is pretty decently coordinated, and with professional strength and conditioning trainers and an 82 game schedule I could see his body rounding into shape and being a useable player.

    Can anyone offer some insight? Is it my Indian genes that are making me dilusional?

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  • #917349
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    The Goat
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    The Raps drafted Hoffa in the lottery so anything is possible, but he is not being seen in mocks as he isnt one of the top 60 players available. In saying that, he is over 7 feet and there is a chance to market to 1 billion + in India, so someone may draft him late.

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  • #917480
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    The Goat
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    The Raps drafted Hoffa in the lottery so anything is possible, but he is not being seen in mocks as he isnt one of the top 60 players available. In saying that, he is over 7 feet and there is a chance to market to 1 billion + in India, so someone may draft him late.

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  • #917351
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    McDunkin

    He’s just too slow and his conditioning while better is still terrible for pro standards.

    So yes he will be drafted but I’m afraid it’ll more likely be by the Tulsa 66’ers than the Philadelphia 76’ers

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  • #917482
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    McDunkin

    He’s just too slow and his conditioning while better is still terrible for pro standards.

    So yes he will be drafted but I’m afraid it’ll more likely be by the Tulsa 66’ers than the Philadelphia 76’ers

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  • #917353
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    arjundhanoa
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    I’ve been following the mocks and haven’t seen Sim anywhere. Frankly maybe the Raps brought him in as a favor being a local kid, or because they were looking at the marketability side of things with a huge Sikh community in Toronto, and with the Billion Indians who may start following bball in some capacity.

    Still I feel with Sim it’s a timing thing, if he hadn’t entered this draft he may have developed into a legit prospect. He’s a 2-time WAC tourney MVP who led his team into the tourney. I’m sure he’s on the fringe of being drafted and will at the very least be brought in for workouts.

    I’m just surprised I haven’t heard anything thus far. Marketability aside, the guy is 7’5" and the league has a history of taking chances on players of that size with almost no track record of success (or even PT) from Europe. This kid has performed at the NCAA level, and is clearly in less than peak athletic condition.

    Check out the highlights (although highlights are always BS), and let me know what y’all think:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyh_GVdL5pw

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  • #917484
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    arjundhanoa
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    I’ve been following the mocks and haven’t seen Sim anywhere. Frankly maybe the Raps brought him in as a favor being a local kid, or because they were looking at the marketability side of things with a huge Sikh community in Toronto, and with the Billion Indians who may start following bball in some capacity.

    Still I feel with Sim it’s a timing thing, if he hadn’t entered this draft he may have developed into a legit prospect. He’s a 2-time WAC tourney MVP who led his team into the tourney. I’m sure he’s on the fringe of being drafted and will at the very least be brought in for workouts.

    I’m just surprised I haven’t heard anything thus far. Marketability aside, the guy is 7’5" and the league has a history of taking chances on players of that size with almost no track record of success (or even PT) from Europe. This kid has performed at the NCAA level, and is clearly in less than peak athletic condition.

    Check out the highlights (although highlights are always BS), and let me know what y’all think:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyh_GVdL5pw

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  • #917361
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    HobbyOG
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     Should of stayed in college 

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  • #917492
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    HobbyOG
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     Should of stayed in college 

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  • #917511
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    fliptonn
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    I played against him in high school when he went to kiski and I’ve seen a decent amount of aggies games the last couple years. He has a younger brother who is like 7’3 but isn’t as good (funny to match up against in high school though). His upside is obvious since there’s no one his size playing that level of basketball but he literally can’t stay on the court for more than 25 min total. No way he can do an 82 game season with practices. Also, weird to say but he’s very weak for 355 lbs. He won’t be able to push around NBA centers like he does in college. My guess is he’ll be labeled as a project and ticket sales booster and finish his American career in the D-League. He’ll probably be an attraction for a Chinese team in 5 years.

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  • #917379
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    fliptonn
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    I played against him in high school when he went to kiski and I’ve seen a decent amount of aggies games the last couple years. He has a younger brother who is like 7’3 but isn’t as good (funny to match up against in high school though). His upside is obvious since there’s no one his size playing that level of basketball but he literally can’t stay on the court for more than 25 min total. No way he can do an 82 game season with practices. Also, weird to say but he’s very weak for 355 lbs. He won’t be able to push around NBA centers like he does in college. My guess is he’ll be labeled as a project and ticket sales booster and finish his American career in the D-League. He’ll probably be an attraction for a Chinese team in 5 years.

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  • #917521
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    MattP31
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    If the Sixers keep 4 or all 5 of their second rounders(unlikely but possible) I’d love to see them take a chance on Sim. They have a late 2nd rounder to use and can always do what they did with Arsalan Kazemi last year- have him sign to play in Europe with the idea of developing a little more and coming over here in a year or two. You can’t teach his size and he could be a guy with some impact as a backup big man in 10-15 minutes a game down the line.

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  • #917389
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    MattP31
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    If the Sixers keep 4 or all 5 of their second rounders(unlikely but possible) I’d love to see them take a chance on Sim. They have a late 2nd rounder to use and can always do what they did with Arsalan Kazemi last year- have him sign to play in Europe with the idea of developing a little more and coming over here in a year or two. You can’t teach his size and he could be a guy with some impact as a backup big man in 10-15 minutes a game down the line.

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  • #917559
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    mike_r232
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     Not saying he should be drafted, but why wouldn’t someone (depending on how he looks skill-wise in workouts) sign him to a minimum contract.  If the guy gives you 10 minutes of pure massive size a game, that’s 100% worth the minimum salary.  I certainly wouldn’t want to draft him in the first round and give him first round money.  I also don’t think a team would have to waste a second rounder on him.  Best situation for him is to not get drafted and find a spot somewhere that really has a need for size.  Someone might gamble, although I think his chances of playing in the league next year are fairly slim.

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  • #917427
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    mike_r232
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     Not saying he should be drafted, but why wouldn’t someone (depending on how he looks skill-wise in workouts) sign him to a minimum contract.  If the guy gives you 10 minutes of pure massive size a game, that’s 100% worth the minimum salary.  I certainly wouldn’t want to draft him in the first round and give him first round money.  I also don’t think a team would have to waste a second rounder on him.  Best situation for him is to not get drafted and find a spot somewhere that really has a need for size.  Someone might gamble, although I think his chances of playing in the league next year are fairly slim.

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  • #917552
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    gabriel_akva
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     Yesterday he attended to a pre-draft workout with Toronto Raptors, and will do this in Sacramento and Washington too. He told the media that he’s a rim protector and can grab a lot of rebounds (he’s 7-5, so…), and he can do for India bball the same thing that Yao did with China bball.

     

    (Sorry about my english, I need more practice than Iverson hahahaha)

     

     

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    • #917557
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      OhCanada-
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      Your english is fine my friend. My Grandmother has lived in Canada for 35 years moving from Portugal and your english is better than hers.

      I watched that interviewed. Showed he cares about basketball and went through alot because this is his dream. Also he genuinely wants to be a positive role model for the growth of India basketball. His dad also owns a convenience store in the westend and faught off a robbery. Two armed men it should be on google.

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    • #917688
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      OhCanada-
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      Your english is fine my friend. My Grandmother has lived in Canada for 35 years moving from Portugal and your english is better than hers.

      I watched that interviewed. Showed he cares about basketball and went through alot because this is his dream. Also he genuinely wants to be a positive role model for the growth of India basketball. His dad also owns a convenience store in the westend and faught off a robbery. Two armed men it should be on google.

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  • #917684
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    gabriel_akva
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     Yesterday he attended to a pre-draft workout with Toronto Raptors, and will do this in Sacramento and Washington too. He told the media that he’s a rim protector and can grab a lot of rebounds (he’s 7-5, so…), and he can do for India bball the same thing that Yao did with China bball.

     

    (Sorry about my english, I need more practice than Iverson hahahaha)

     

     

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  • #917816
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    JoeWolf1

    Sim probably would have been drafted in 1993, but with the defensive 3 seconds, the lumbering giant, lane clogging, rim protector is kind of an extinct role in the NBA.

    I’ve followed him since high school because he’s an intriguing guy, and he did have some success in college, but he really needs to get down to about 310 lbs and work on his elbow jumper.

    The last giant who had true success in the modern NBA was Yao Ming, who was insanely skilled, and a well conditioned athlete. Shawn Bradley also had success later in his career in Dallas playing the role of a rim protector, but he was pretty mobile despite being a stiff, and had bulked up to about 270 lbs.

    Sim doesn’t have nearly that potential, but when he’s in the D-League next year and developing as a pro, he should just drill conditioning and shooting. He was a 53% free throw shooter, and considerably overweight. In my opinion, I think it’s too early to count him out. I’m sure he’ll continue to develop at a professional level somewhere, but I will say he has a lot of work to do before he’s playing on an NBA roster.

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  • #917685
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    JoeWolf1

    Sim probably would have been drafted in 1993, but with the defensive 3 seconds, the lumbering giant, lane clogging, rim protector is kind of an extinct role in the NBA.

    I’ve followed him since high school because he’s an intriguing guy, and he did have some success in college, but he really needs to get down to about 310 lbs and work on his elbow jumper.

    The last giant who had true success in the modern NBA was Yao Ming, who was insanely skilled, and a well conditioned athlete. Shawn Bradley also had success later in his career in Dallas playing the role of a rim protector, but he was pretty mobile despite being a stiff, and had bulked up to about 270 lbs.

    Sim doesn’t have nearly that potential, but when he’s in the D-League next year and developing as a pro, he should just drill conditioning and shooting. He was a 53% free throw shooter, and considerably overweight. In my opinion, I think it’s too early to count him out. I’m sure he’ll continue to develop at a professional level somewhere, but I will say he has a lot of work to do before he’s playing on an NBA roster.

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    • #918060
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      BothTeamsPlayedHard
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      He doesn’t have a ton of potential, but if a team thinks he can use their training facilities to get in shape (say this offseason, play a year with their NBDL affiliate, and then the following) then it is not absurd should a team decide to make a relatively small financial investment. If a team says here is a three-year deal with only one-year guaranteed (or even a part of one year guaranteed), they are not putting even the same amount of money into him as the Pacers did Andrew Bynum. There is then also the reality that the NBA has wanted to grow the game in India, and an owner might step in and think that small investment can at minimum pay for itself and possibly yield a decent return. Also, both Indiana and Miami knew Bynum’s knees were bad, and probably would never give more than minimal minutes, but they valued a legitimately sized center enough to take that risk. The Heat knew Greg Oden’s condition and the limitations it presented, they happily invested a year in him. Heck, they might do it again next season. I cannot make a strong argument for why someone should take Sim in the 2nd round or sign him as an undrafted free agent (we are still probably talking about someone who if everything works out would be an 8-10 minute per game when matchup allow him to get on the floor guy), but it just would not be surprising, and probably would not be worth getting upset about. 

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    • #917926
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      BothTeamsPlayedHard
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      He doesn’t have a ton of potential, but if a team thinks he can use their training facilities to get in shape (say this offseason, play a year with their NBDL affiliate, and then the following) then it is not absurd should a team decide to make a relatively small financial investment. If a team says here is a three-year deal with only one-year guaranteed (or even a part of one year guaranteed), they are not putting even the same amount of money into him as the Pacers did Andrew Bynum. There is then also the reality that the NBA has wanted to grow the game in India, and an owner might step in and think that small investment can at minimum pay for itself and possibly yield a decent return. Also, both Indiana and Miami knew Bynum’s knees were bad, and probably would never give more than minimal minutes, but they valued a legitimately sized center enough to take that risk. The Heat knew Greg Oden’s condition and the limitations it presented, they happily invested a year in him. Heck, they might do it again next season. I cannot make a strong argument for why someone should take Sim in the 2nd round or sign him as an undrafted free agent (we are still probably talking about someone who if everything works out would be an 8-10 minute per game when matchup allow him to get on the floor guy), but it just would not be surprising, and probably would not be worth getting upset about. 

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