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- Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:07pm #22970

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantIt seems to me that the Clippers are suffering from " The little brother syndrome" where for 30 plus seasons, they have been the screw up kid to the Lakers rich, wealthy stud kid. At this point, the Clippers have to do something to get respect. I think the Clippers should leave the Los Angeles are and move to somewhere where they gain respect: Seattle.
The Clippers need Donald Sterling to die ( at this point, someone has to do the 15 years to get him outta there) and should move to Seattle. With that, the NBA has another rivalry ( Sonics-Thunder) and this new Supersonics team won’t have to do what every other expansion team does: Go through the "15 win season". Not to mention, the idea of having Jordan, Bledsoe, Gordon and Griffin as the young superstars ( kinda funny because LA went through this when it was Brand,Odom, Richardson and someone else) would give Seattle fans hope.
The only catch 22? Gotta build a new stadium. Phil Knight just helped Oregon, maybe Seattle could have him help? Talk to me.
PSS: If this happens, I also think Sacramento should move to San Diego.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:10pm #429967

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI don’t know about the Cippers.. but the CLippers maybe..
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:10pm #429980

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI don’t know about the Cippers.. but the CLippers maybe..
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:14pm #429969
goneParticipantSeattle Clippers just doesnt roll off the tongue
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:14pm #429982
goneParticipantSeattle Clippers just doesnt roll off the tongue
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:17pm #429971

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantYou’d probably go back to Sonics then Wiz.
Also, Thanks for the correcting Tounge.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:17pm #429984

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantYou’d probably go back to Sonics then Wiz.
Also, Thanks for the correcting Tounge.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:20pm #429973

Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"The Clippers need Donald Sterling to die"
LMFAO!! That made my day
If the Clipper move to Seattle, they gotta change their name for sure though. Seattle Clipper just sounds bad. Seattle Skunks maybe.. Because they are gunna stink.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:20pm #429986

Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"The Clippers need Donald Sterling to die"
LMFAO!! That made my day
If the Clipper move to Seattle, they gotta change their name for sure though. Seattle Clipper just sounds bad. Seattle Skunks maybe.. Because they are gunna stink.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:23pm #429979

IndianaBasketballParticipantIF I’m Seattle, I don’t want the Clippers unless Donald Sterling sells the team.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:23pm #429992

IndianaBasketballParticipantIF I’m Seattle, I don’t want the Clippers unless Donald Sterling sells the team.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:26pm #429981

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI would envision someone gets the Clippers from Sterling if he sells it. I wonder what the Clippers price is?
In all honesty, I think you can find someone who wants the Clippers, what about the guy who wants to buy a team and move them to Vegas ( Illich or something) and get a buying group with him and Phil Knight maybe?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:26pm #429994

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI would envision someone gets the Clippers from Sterling if he sells it. I wonder what the Clippers price is?
In all honesty, I think you can find someone who wants the Clippers, what about the guy who wants to buy a team and move them to Vegas ( Illich or something) and get a buying group with him and Phil Knight maybe?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:29pm #429985

IndianaBasketballParticipantFinding someone who’d want the Clippers wouldn’t be a problem… The problem would be that Donald Sterling refuses to sell the team.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:29pm #429998

IndianaBasketballParticipantFinding someone who’d want the Clippers wouldn’t be a problem… The problem would be that Donald Sterling refuses to sell the team.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:33pm #429991

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI would make him a huge offer for them if I can move him to Seattle. I think Seattle also needs a new arena (something they didn’t wanna do in the past because the team was bad). If the price is like 300 million to 400 million. I’m not a rich man but if I had that money, I’d do it, move it to Seattle.
I think Seattle would come out to watch this team. They just need to move Kaman and Davis and they could begin the rebuilding process around the new core 4.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:33pm #430004

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI would make him a huge offer for them if I can move him to Seattle. I think Seattle also needs a new arena (something they didn’t wanna do in the past because the team was bad). If the price is like 300 million to 400 million. I’m not a rich man but if I had that money, I’d do it, move it to Seattle.
I think Seattle would come out to watch this team. They just need to move Kaman and Davis and they could begin the rebuilding process around the new core 4.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:34pm #429993

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAs of 2008, the Clippers are work 297mil
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:34pm #430006

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAs of 2008, the Clippers are work 297mil
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:35pm #429995

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantCan I get a link for where u got that? I wanna do like a real article and that site could help me.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:35pm #430008

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantCan I get a link for where u got that? I wanna do like a real article and that site could help me.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:41pm #429997
RObin PadillaParticipantthe reason why they wont leave LA is because they are actually making money unlike the rest of the crappy teams. why do you think sterling doesnt really care about winning? because he makes money anyways…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 2:41pm #430010
RObin PadillaParticipantthe reason why they wont leave LA is because they are actually making money unlike the rest of the crappy teams. why do you think sterling doesnt really care about winning? because he makes money anyways…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 3:00pm #430005

Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 3:00pm #430018

Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 3:02pm #430007
McWinningParticipantThe Las Vegas strippers rolls off the tongue.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 3:02pm #430020
McWinningParticipantThe Las Vegas strippers rolls off the tongue.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 3:06pm #430011

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantLMFAO ^^
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 3:06pm #430023

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantLMFAO ^^
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 3:32pm #430034
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantThose players don’t stand a chance in Sin City…Seatle is 1st in line if the team was ever sold and relocated…It need’s to happen sooner or later…why not after the Lock Out…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 3:32pm #430045
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantThose players don’t stand a chance in Sin City…Seatle is 1st in line if the team was ever sold and relocated…It need’s to happen sooner or later…why not after the Lock Out…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 6:09pm #430187

thunderforthewinParticipantAnything is possible i suppose and i wouldnt be surprised if they moved in the next 10 years.
BUT
no way sacramento moves, the Arco Arena is consistently one of the loudest arenas in the league with a fanactical fan base, SHaq said he hated playing their during the playoff series against them in the early 2000’s.
You cant just suggest relocation to fix the process of rebuilding.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 6:09pm #430196

thunderforthewinParticipantAnything is possible i suppose and i wouldnt be surprised if they moved in the next 10 years.
BUT
no way sacramento moves, the Arco Arena is consistently one of the loudest arenas in the league with a fanactical fan base, SHaq said he hated playing their during the playoff series against them in the early 2000’s.
You cant just suggest relocation to fix the process of rebuilding.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 6:29pm #430203

omphalosParticipantCo-sign on Sacramento; they have a great fanbase there and a talented young group which are playoff bound in a few years. If they could just sort out that Arena situation they’d be all sorted.
As for the Clippers, yes, they do need to leave, because they’ll never compete with the Lakers in LA. That said, this young group might be just the right age when Kobe retires and the Lakers rebuild. Of course, the odds of the Clippers youth staying together is slim given the history of the franchise. Also, why are people including Jordan, but not Aminu in the talented youth department? He’s raw right now, but has great potential and fits in with this team.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 6:29pm #430212

omphalosParticipantCo-sign on Sacramento; they have a great fanbase there and a talented young group which are playoff bound in a few years. If they could just sort out that Arena situation they’d be all sorted.
As for the Clippers, yes, they do need to leave, because they’ll never compete with the Lakers in LA. That said, this young group might be just the right age when Kobe retires and the Lakers rebuild. Of course, the odds of the Clippers youth staying together is slim given the history of the franchise. Also, why are people including Jordan, but not Aminu in the talented youth department? He’s raw right now, but has great potential and fits in with this team.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 10:13pm #430371
Kinguy11ParticipantI agree with the Clippers to Seattle but change the name back to Sonics.
Kings to San Diego, no way. Where would they play even if they did move though?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/07/2010 - 10:13pm #430376
Kinguy11ParticipantI agree with the Clippers to Seattle but change the name back to Sonics.
Kings to San Diego, no way. Where would they play even if they did move though?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 3:59am #430395

HitsterParticipantMoving a team back to Seattle would be a decent idea but to revive the Sonics name would seem like a step backwards and fans would be torn between that team and the old team now in Oklahoma. The team could easily find a moniker maybe the Seattle Speed, Seattle Superman, Seattle Sound etc.
The idea of a team in Las Vegas would be appealing to the NBA and would generate a lot of gambling revenue around the games, also the city would have the finances to support the team and could surely provide a multi purpose arena for the franchise. The only thing that might be negative about a team in Vegas would be if the players were drawn into the nightlife and all the surrounding attractions as this could be a major distraction for the players. Also the team would probably want star names and not be prepared to build how new franchises have to so moving a team there would be better than putting an expansion franchise there.
Looking at the Forbes Sports Rich list, basketball certainly lacks well behind Football, American Football and Baseball for team values. Although of the football teams listed only Real Madrid isn’t fully or partly American owned with the Glazers who own Manchester United FC also owning Tampa Bay Bucks and Stan Kroenke who owns 30% of Arsenal FC having a wide sports franchise ownership across NBA, NFL etc.
There was an interesting story in the UK recently where Liverpool F.C were sold to John Henry who owns the Boston Red Sox from Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Hicks and Gillett had brought the club in 2007 but added debt onto it and the fans turned against them over the last year or so staging lots of demonstrations and things were turning very ugly before Hicks and Gillett were forced to sell up before the banks took over the team. On their first day at the club, Hicks and Gillett had been briefed by their PR people about the team’s history ( 18 League Titles, 5 European Cups) and they did all the hard sell and then refered to the club as a franchise! You could almost hear Bill Shankly one of Liverpool’s greatest ever managers spinning in his grave!
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 3:59am #430400

HitsterParticipantMoving a team back to Seattle would be a decent idea but to revive the Sonics name would seem like a step backwards and fans would be torn between that team and the old team now in Oklahoma. The team could easily find a moniker maybe the Seattle Speed, Seattle Superman, Seattle Sound etc.
The idea of a team in Las Vegas would be appealing to the NBA and would generate a lot of gambling revenue around the games, also the city would have the finances to support the team and could surely provide a multi purpose arena for the franchise. The only thing that might be negative about a team in Vegas would be if the players were drawn into the nightlife and all the surrounding attractions as this could be a major distraction for the players. Also the team would probably want star names and not be prepared to build how new franchises have to so moving a team there would be better than putting an expansion franchise there.
Looking at the Forbes Sports Rich list, basketball certainly lacks well behind Football, American Football and Baseball for team values. Although of the football teams listed only Real Madrid isn’t fully or partly American owned with the Glazers who own Manchester United FC also owning Tampa Bay Bucks and Stan Kroenke who owns 30% of Arsenal FC having a wide sports franchise ownership across NBA, NFL etc.
There was an interesting story in the UK recently where Liverpool F.C were sold to John Henry who owns the Boston Red Sox from Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Hicks and Gillett had brought the club in 2007 but added debt onto it and the fans turned against them over the last year or so staging lots of demonstrations and things were turning very ugly before Hicks and Gillett were forced to sell up before the banks took over the team. On their first day at the club, Hicks and Gillett had been briefed by their PR people about the team’s history ( 18 League Titles, 5 European Cups) and they did all the hard sell and then refered to the club as a franchise! You could almost hear Bill Shankly one of Liverpool’s greatest ever managers spinning in his grave!
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 4:26am #430403
mj23mj23besteverParticipanthe cares nothing about winning at all hes simply in it to make money which the clips still do id love to see him sell the team and allow someone who actually cares about winning take over the clips are on the rite track with wiht griffin gordon and bledsoe but as long as sterling is the owner hell find a way to f everything up
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 4:26am #430408
mj23mj23besteverParticipanthe cares nothing about winning at all hes simply in it to make money which the clips still do id love to see him sell the team and allow someone who actually cares about winning take over the clips are on the rite track with wiht griffin gordon and bledsoe but as long as sterling is the owner hell find a way to f everything up
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 8:30am #430513

mikeyvthedonParticipantYou know Phil Knight went to University of Oregon, right? I mean, that is why he spent money building a new stadium, that is named after his son (Not to mention the Knight Law School and Knight Library, no joke). His allegiance to our school is what causes him to donate as much as he has (Not to mention numerous college/high school teams have been given healthy donations by Phil and Nike). So, besides Donald Sterling going away, I do not see him putting a red cent into moving the Clippers anywhere and have heard exactly 0 interest in someone buying the team (Who can afford it, not just someone on this board who would say "I WOULD BUY THEM"). Plus, plenty of teams share stadiums, so I do not see why that is a huge issue. Seattle will eventually get another team, but I have 0 belief that team will be the Clippers. Also, why do you think the Kings should move to San Diego? What is the reasoning behind that? They have owners who actually care about the team. I would think San Diego getting a team would be cool, it is a great city, but why the Kings? LA can obviously support 2 teams, and while the Clippers have always been the Lakers little brother, they have always been everyones little brother, they are a historically bad franchise who probably will not change until as you said, Donald Sterling hits the dusty trail. Really do not get your reasoning here, and think their are a lot of teams in worse financial straights than the Clipps.
Paul Allen already owns the Blazers, otherwise he would definitely do something with Seattle. That dude bought the Seahawks just so they would not leave the city, he does not even like football. It has always been rumored that the Blazers would eventually move to Seattle, which would suck, SO MUCH, but again it is a rumor and has yet to come to close to happening. It is just that Paul has serious love for that city and all of his crew (Trader Bob Whittsitt, etc.) were Seattle folk. But, since Paul Allen apparently loves the Blazers, and is apparently cool with them being in P-Town, he can not help Seattle gigantic Starbucks F-up (Sell it to the guy from Oklahoma, he’ll fix everything). Unfortunately also for Seattle, with as many billionaires as they seemingly have in their backyard, none have stepped up to the plate to try and bring a team there. Bill Gates has shown virtually no interest in sports, maybe because he didn’t play any as a kid (He really didn’t), so that seems like another no go. It is in Phil Knights best interest to not own a sports franchise, so he can still make uniforms for all of them (2012 baby, hope they get that contract, they already picked up NFL). So, in other words, Seattle has to foot the bill for a new arena with tax payer dough (not easy), find a billionaire with a vision or just hope that some team leaves their city to play in Seattle. Still think it is a few years away, and that the Clippers will be firmly in Los Angeles.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 8:30am #430520

mikeyvthedonParticipantYou know Phil Knight went to University of Oregon, right? I mean, that is why he spent money building a new stadium, that is named after his son (Not to mention the Knight Law School and Knight Library, no joke). His allegiance to our school is what causes him to donate as much as he has (Not to mention numerous college/high school teams have been given healthy donations by Phil and Nike). So, besides Donald Sterling going away, I do not see him putting a red cent into moving the Clippers anywhere and have heard exactly 0 interest in someone buying the team (Who can afford it, not just someone on this board who would say "I WOULD BUY THEM"). Plus, plenty of teams share stadiums, so I do not see why that is a huge issue. Seattle will eventually get another team, but I have 0 belief that team will be the Clippers. Also, why do you think the Kings should move to San Diego? What is the reasoning behind that? They have owners who actually care about the team. I would think San Diego getting a team would be cool, it is a great city, but why the Kings? LA can obviously support 2 teams, and while the Clippers have always been the Lakers little brother, they have always been everyones little brother, they are a historically bad franchise who probably will not change until as you said, Donald Sterling hits the dusty trail. Really do not get your reasoning here, and think their are a lot of teams in worse financial straights than the Clipps.
Paul Allen already owns the Blazers, otherwise he would definitely do something with Seattle. That dude bought the Seahawks just so they would not leave the city, he does not even like football. It has always been rumored that the Blazers would eventually move to Seattle, which would suck, SO MUCH, but again it is a rumor and has yet to come to close to happening. It is just that Paul has serious love for that city and all of his crew (Trader Bob Whittsitt, etc.) were Seattle folk. But, since Paul Allen apparently loves the Blazers, and is apparently cool with them being in P-Town, he can not help Seattle gigantic Starbucks F-up (Sell it to the guy from Oklahoma, he’ll fix everything). Unfortunately also for Seattle, with as many billionaires as they seemingly have in their backyard, none have stepped up to the plate to try and bring a team there. Bill Gates has shown virtually no interest in sports, maybe because he didn’t play any as a kid (He really didn’t), so that seems like another no go. It is in Phil Knights best interest to not own a sports franchise, so he can still make uniforms for all of them (2012 baby, hope they get that contract, they already picked up NFL). So, in other words, Seattle has to foot the bill for a new arena with tax payer dough (not easy), find a billionaire with a vision or just hope that some team leaves their city to play in Seattle. Still think it is a few years away, and that the Clippers will be firmly in Los Angeles.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 8:44am #430533
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantThe Clippers have to move to San Diego…I think if they name the Team the San Diego Braves and went with The Old Orange and Black jersey’s or Baby Blues they’d turn the tide, or at least look like they’re trying to…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 8:44am #430540
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantThe Clippers have to move to San Diego…I think if they name the Team the San Diego Braves and went with The Old Orange and Black jersey’s or Baby Blues they’d turn the tide, or at least look like they’re trying to…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:12am #430574

Mr. 19134ParticipantSeattle Clippers isn’t such a bad name and actually fits the team better in Seattle because it is a big mariner town.
The best fitting name for them if they were to move to Seattle would be the Seattle Software and get Billy on board with the new arena.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:12am #430579

Mr. 19134ParticipantSeattle Clippers isn’t such a bad name and actually fits the team better in Seattle because it is a big mariner town.
The best fitting name for them if they were to move to Seattle would be the Seattle Software and get Billy on board with the new arena.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:14am #430576
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantI still have a earlier 2K game because I can’t let those jerseys go…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:14am #430581
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantI still have a earlier 2K game because I can’t let those jerseys go…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:14am #430578

Mr. 19134ParticipantOh but to answer the question they have to leave LA. I hate when any city has two sports teams because its like cheating when they win. But also because there are so many great cities who should have one before another city has two.
But the main reason was watching the Clippers play home games with the Lakers hardwood still on the floor is a disgrace.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:14am #430583

Mr. 19134ParticipantOh but to answer the question they have to leave LA. I hate when any city has two sports teams because its like cheating when they win. But also because there are so many great cities who should have one before another city has two.
But the main reason was watching the Clippers play home games with the Lakers hardwood still on the floor is a disgrace.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 12:37pm #430798
stanford hoopsthe problem is they will still be there clippers. you dont lose that many times that often just because youre in the same place as another nba team. the kings managed to get better as well as the teams out in texas. the problem seems to be the owner and the players. Some thought it was the coach and didnt give the players as much blame as they should have gotten
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 12:37pm #430801
stanford hoopsthe problem is they will still be there clippers. you dont lose that many times that often just because youre in the same place as another nba team. the kings managed to get better as well as the teams out in texas. the problem seems to be the owner and the players. Some thought it was the coach and didnt give the players as much blame as they should have gotten
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 1:37pm #430880

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantStanford, I feel you but don’t you think a nice new logo, new area, new owner could help them?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 1:37pm #430882

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantStanford, I feel you but don’t you think a nice new logo, new area, new owner could help them?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 1:38pm #430884
stanford hoopsno because the problem isnt location the problem is owner,players that they have had etc
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 1:38pm #430886
stanford hoopsno because the problem isnt location the problem is owner,players that they have had etc
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 1:47pm #430907

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantIs it really the players or the coaching? I think they never had a high level coach. The Owner is the main issue.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/08/2010 - 1:47pm #430910

Mr.Knick 32ParticipantIs it really the players or the coaching? I think they never had a high level coach. The Owner is the main issue.
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