[BasterdInABasketParticipant]

There were a lot of responses for the PG thread yesterday so I tallied them up :

1. Best PG right now – Paul 17, D Williams 3, Rose 3

2. Most underrated – Lowry 5, A Miller 3, Teague-DHarris-Rondo-Sessions 2

3. Overrated- J Nelson 7, Rondo-Conley 5, Fisher-Westbrook 2

4. Best Young PG (less than 3 years in the league)- Wall 17, Collison-Holiday 1

5. Best Rookie PG-  Irving 12, Walker 5, Knight-Rubio 2, Jimmer 1

6. Most athletic- Rose 21, Westbrook 8, N Robinson-Wall 1 (lots of double votes)

7. Best leader- Kidd 13, Nash-Paul 4, Billups-Fisher 3

8. Best All Time- Magic 18, O Robertson 3, Stockton-Pistol 1

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Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now-

2. Most Underrated-

3. Overrated-

4. Best SG in 5 years-

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-

6. Best Rookie SG-

7. Most Athletic-

8. Best Leader-

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-

 

[iguapops420Participant]

 SG right now-Kobe even though it may seem like Wade. Kobe kept his numbers right on par with the past 2 years even at 3 minutes per game.

Underrated-Eric Gordon

Overrated-Joe Johnson

Best in 5 years-Kobe

Best young SG 2years or less-Harden

Best Rookie SG-Brooks

Most Athletic-Wade 

Best Leader-Kobe

Top 2-MJ,Kobe

[iguapops420Participant]

 SG right now-Kobe even though it may seem like Wade. Kobe kept his numbers right on par with the past 2 years even at 3 minutes per game.

Underrated-Eric Gordon

Overrated-Joe Johnson

Best in 5 years-Kobe

Best young SG 2years or less-Harden

Best Rookie SG-Brooks

Most Athletic-Wade 

Best Leader-Kobe

Top 2-MJ,Kobe

[MagikKnickParticipant]

 1. Best SG right now- D-Wade

2. Most Underrated- Manu Ginobli

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years- no clue, how about…Harden? 

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden, just finished his 2nd year right?

6. Best Rookie SG- I’d put Burks over Thompson…

7. Most Athletic- DeMar DeRozan

8. Best Leader- shallow category, Kobe?

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Michael Jordan, Jerry West

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years – Between Wall/Rose

[MagikKnickParticipant]

 1. Best SG right now- D-Wade

2. Most Underrated- Manu Ginobli

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years- no clue, how about…Harden? 

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden, just finished his 2nd year right?

6. Best Rookie SG- I’d put Burks over Thompson…

7. Most Athletic- DeMar DeRozan

8. Best Leader- shallow category, Kobe?

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Michael Jordan, Jerry West

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years – Between Wall/Rose

[JayhawkFan23Participant]

Best SG- Kobe

Underrated- James Harden (yes yes, i know)

Overrated- Vince Carter

Best in 5 Years- Dwayne Wade, or Eric Gordon

Best Young SG- James Harden

Best rookie-Alec Burks

Best Leader- Ray Allen

Top 2 All time- MJ, Kobe

Best PG in 5 Years- Rose

[JayhawkFan23Participant]

Best SG- Kobe

Underrated- James Harden (yes yes, i know)

Overrated- Vince Carter

Best in 5 Years- Dwayne Wade, or Eric Gordon

Best Young SG- James Harden

Best rookie-Alec Burks

Best Leader- Ray Allen

Top 2 All time- MJ, Kobe

Best PG in 5 Years- Rose

[MagikKnickParticipant]

 Iguapops – You think Kobe’ll be the best SG at the age of 37?

[MagikKnickParticipant]

 Iguapops – You think Kobe’ll be the best SG at the age of 37?

[BasterdInABasketParticipant]

1. Best SG right now- Wade- tough not putting Kobe but Wade’s D and athleticism trumps Kobe’s offensive game now.

2. Most Underrated- Terry- 15.5 ppg in 10 of last 11 years and now a ring.

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson- 119,000,000 reasons why

4. Best SG in 5 years- Wade- Ill stick with a 34 year old Wade over Tyreke and Eric Gordon.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke- with a jumper he has 25-7-5 potential.

6. Best Rookie SG- Burks- tough one, lots of ok to decent 2 guards in the draft.

7. Most Athletic- Wade- mainly because he really uses his athleticism on offense and defense.

8. Best Leader- Manu- He’s a winner and a great competitor

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- 2. Kobe- big numbers, big rings.

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Wall- Love his game, I think he’ll be a better all around PG than Rose by then

[BasterdInABasketParticipant]

1. Best SG right now- Wade- tough not putting Kobe but Wade’s D and athleticism trumps Kobe’s offensive game now.

2. Most Underrated- Terry- 15.5 ppg in 10 of last 11 years and now a ring.

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson- 119,000,000 reasons why

4. Best SG in 5 years- Wade- Ill stick with a 34 year old Wade over Tyreke and Eric Gordon.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke- with a jumper he has 25-7-5 potential.

6. Best Rookie SG- Burks- tough one, lots of ok to decent 2 guards in the draft.

7. Most Athletic- Wade- mainly because he really uses his athleticism on offense and defense.

8. Best Leader- Manu- He’s a winner and a great competitor

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- 2. Kobe- big numbers, big rings.

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Wall- Love his game, I think he’ll be a better all around PG than Rose by then

[Colaa_2Participant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade over Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon but its close. Lots of players could have gone here, Manu, Kevin Martin, James Harden(some people still think he’s a bust… smh)

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson, I have 119 million reasons why he is.

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden(entering his 3rd yr)

6. Best Rookie SG- Marshon Brooks is the most NBA ready, right now.

7. Most Athletic- DeMar DeRozan

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- So hard to go against Rose, I am tempted to say Wall but I won’t

[Colaa_2Participant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade over Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon but its close. Lots of players could have gone here, Manu, Kevin Martin, James Harden(some people still think he’s a bust… smh)

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson, I have 119 million reasons why he is.

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden(entering his 3rd yr)

6. Best Rookie SG- Marshon Brooks is the most NBA ready, right now.

7. Most Athletic- DeMar DeRozan

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- So hard to go against Rose, I am tempted to say Wall but I won’t

[inukawaii8Participant]

SG right now- i give the slight edge to Kobe. one year ago when lakers won the champ, ppl were still saying kobe is the best in the game. one year later, he is not even in ppl’s top 5. i agree hes gotten slower and not as dynamic, but the guy is still a winner. when we talk about "best" guards arent we talking about who can win for their team? i believe kobe is the utlimate competitor that will win games for you

Underrated – OJ Mayo (he can start from some team)/Tony Allen

Overrated – Joe Johnson/Manu

Best in 5 years – Eric Gordon

Best young SG 2years or less – James Harden

Best Rookie SG – Burks. Brook may be more ready to contribute and a better scorer right now, but i think Burks brings  the whole package. 

Most Athletic – Wade

Best Leader – Brandon Roy.. he was the leader of the team that carried portland to the playoff.. last year, he was the emotional leader… when he was on the court, you can just feel that portland team’s intensity is a lot stronger..  

Top 2 – MJ and Kobe

 

[inukawaii8Participant]

SG right now- i give the slight edge to Kobe. one year ago when lakers won the champ, ppl were still saying kobe is the best in the game. one year later, he is not even in ppl’s top 5. i agree hes gotten slower and not as dynamic, but the guy is still a winner. when we talk about "best" guards arent we talking about who can win for their team? i believe kobe is the utlimate competitor that will win games for you

Underrated – OJ Mayo (he can start from some team)/Tony Allen

Overrated – Joe Johnson/Manu

Best in 5 years – Eric Gordon

Best young SG 2years or less – James Harden

Best Rookie SG – Burks. Brook may be more ready to contribute and a better scorer right now, but i think Burks brings  the whole package. 

Most Athletic – Wade

Best Leader – Brandon Roy.. he was the leader of the team that carried portland to the playoff.. last year, he was the emotional leader… when he was on the court, you can just feel that portland team’s intensity is a lot stronger..  

Top 2 – MJ and Kobe

 

[SubZeroParticipant]

1. Best SG right now-Dwyane Wade, just barely edging over Kobe.

2. Most Underrated-Eric Gordon/Manu Ginobili. Gordon is flying under the radar a little bit, but he’s very good right now. Manu does so many things that go unnoticed or don’t get as much attention as things that Lebron or Kobe do

3. Overrated-Monta Ellis. Dude’s a baller, but bit of a shot chucker and not much of a leader

4. Best SG in 5 years-Dwyane Wade/Tyreke Evans. If Durant or Westbrook wasn’t on the Thunder, I’d say James Harden

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Hard to say between Evans and Harden. If Harden was in the role Reke is, I think he’d be putting up 20+ next year. Toss up

6. Best Rookie SG-Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic-DeMar DeRozan, not even really close for me.

8. Best Leader-Kobe is obviously the obvious answer. So besides him, I’d say Manu Ginobili. He’s done everything for that team over the years and led them when Duncan or Parker couldn’t

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-

[SubZeroParticipant]

1. Best SG right now-Dwyane Wade, just barely edging over Kobe.

2. Most Underrated-Eric Gordon/Manu Ginobili. Gordon is flying under the radar a little bit, but he’s very good right now. Manu does so many things that go unnoticed or don’t get as much attention as things that Lebron or Kobe do

3. Overrated-Monta Ellis. Dude’s a baller, but bit of a shot chucker and not much of a leader

4. Best SG in 5 years-Dwyane Wade/Tyreke Evans. If Durant or Westbrook wasn’t on the Thunder, I’d say James Harden

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Hard to say between Evans and Harden. If Harden was in the role Reke is, I think he’d be putting up 20+ next year. Toss up

6. Best Rookie SG-Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic-DeMar DeRozan, not even really close for me.

8. Best Leader-Kobe is obviously the obvious answer. So besides him, I’d say Manu Ginobili. He’s done everything for that team over the years and led them when Duncan or Parker couldn’t

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-

[ChrispyParticipant]

Best SG now= Wade

Most Underrated= I have to agree with Eric Gordon, but closely followed by Kevin Martin

Most overrated=  easily Joe Johnson

Best in 5= Derozan

Best rookie= Marshon, but Klay Thompson could put up #’s in Golden State’s system

Best Leader= Ray Allen

Best all time= MJ and Jerry West

[ChrispyParticipant]

Best SG now= Wade

Most Underrated= I have to agree with Eric Gordon, but closely followed by Kevin Martin

Most overrated=  easily Joe Johnson

Best in 5= Derozan

Best rookie= Marshon, but Klay Thompson could put up #’s in Golden State’s system

Best Leader= Ray Allen

Best all time= MJ and Jerry West

[TRC1991Participant]

Best SG now = Dwyane Wade

Most Underrated = Kevin Martin

Most overrated = Joe Johnson

Best in 5 = Eric Gordon

Best rookie = Marshon Brooks

Best Leader = Wade

Best all time = Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant

[TRC1991Participant]

Best SG now = Dwyane Wade

Most Underrated = Kevin Martin

Most overrated = Joe Johnson

Best in 5 = Eric Gordon

Best rookie = Marshon Brooks

Best Leader = Wade

Best all time = Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant

[KHAM83Participant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Edge to Wade….For you Kobe sayers, I mean, elimination games in the first finals vs. Boston and this past season vs. Dallas, the Lakers gets killed!?

2. Most Underrated- Kevin Martin- Great scorer on bad teams but seriously, never had a chance to be a winner. And when a guard can consistently put up those number when the entire defense focuses "only" on him, thats saying something.

Also, if we count Stephen Jackson as a sg, we can say he is too. Underrated defender, scorer and playmaker. Its because hes not flashy, not going to cross you out or dunk on you.

3. Overrated- OJ Mayo….people still buying into his potential. Joe Johnson will get many votes here, but he’s only overrated by the Hawks 🙂

4. Best SG in 5 years- Has to be Dwayne Wade. After him, and Kobe, who currently is a bonified  Super star at the position? Roy has the injuries and if you say Joe Johnson, I guess he probably is too overrated.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans.. we can debate whether to call him pg or sg though.

6. Best Rookie SG- Burks — Combine questions 4 and 5 "SG w/ 2 years or less, thatll be best in 5 years. "BURKS"

7. Most Athletic- Wade, easily.

8. Best Leader-  If you wanna call Stephen Jackson a sg, Ill go with him, he’s vocal, he lets teammates know when they need to step up their games. By leader, I mean on the court, definatley not off 🙂      PSA, Kobe/Wade arent leaders people!

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, and since Im going to go with guys since the 90s, who Ive actually seen play….. Kobe or Drexler.

[KHAM83Participant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Edge to Wade….For you Kobe sayers, I mean, elimination games in the first finals vs. Boston and this past season vs. Dallas, the Lakers gets killed!?

2. Most Underrated- Kevin Martin- Great scorer on bad teams but seriously, never had a chance to be a winner. And when a guard can consistently put up those number when the entire defense focuses "only" on him, thats saying something.

Also, if we count Stephen Jackson as a sg, we can say he is too. Underrated defender, scorer and playmaker. Its because hes not flashy, not going to cross you out or dunk on you.

3. Overrated- OJ Mayo….people still buying into his potential. Joe Johnson will get many votes here, but he’s only overrated by the Hawks 🙂

4. Best SG in 5 years- Has to be Dwayne Wade. After him, and Kobe, who currently is a bonified  Super star at the position? Roy has the injuries and if you say Joe Johnson, I guess he probably is too overrated.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans.. we can debate whether to call him pg or sg though.

6. Best Rookie SG- Burks — Combine questions 4 and 5 "SG w/ 2 years or less, thatll be best in 5 years. "BURKS"

7. Most Athletic- Wade, easily.

8. Best Leader-  If you wanna call Stephen Jackson a sg, Ill go with him, he’s vocal, he lets teammates know when they need to step up their games. By leader, I mean on the court, definatley not off 🙂      PSA, Kobe/Wade arent leaders people!

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, and since Im going to go with guys since the 90s, who Ive actually seen play….. Kobe or Drexler.

[KHAM83Participant]

Good pick with Roy as a leader. I looked past him.

[KHAM83Participant]

Good pick with Roy as a leader. I looked past him.

[JaeEvolutionParticipant]

Can we stop for a second and ask, would Joe Johnson still be most overrated by you guys had he taken a 5 year 80 million dollar contract?

He’s OVER paid not OVERrated.

[JaeEvolutionParticipant]

Can we stop for a second and ask, would Joe Johnson still be most overrated by you guys had he taken a 5 year 80 million dollar contract?

He’s OVER paid not OVERrated.

[KHAM83Participant]

I gave you a thumbs up for that post, but, being overpaid is a good indicator of whether someone is overrated. However, I went against picking Johnson for the fact only the Hawks were willing to over pay him.

[KHAM83Participant]

I gave you a thumbs up for that post, but, being overpaid is a good indicator of whether someone is overrated. However, I went against picking Johnson for the fact only the Hawks were willing to over pay him.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- I believe Dwayne Wade has over taken Kobe as the best SG in the NBA. 

2. Most Underrated- Monta Ellis, should be a 2 time All Star right now, he was robed of two roster spot, (2010 and 2011)

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson, not only is overrated in my eyes, hes also overpaid.  He gets paid as franchise player, but is really more like a 2nd-3rd option on a great playoff team. 

4. Best SG in 5 years- The recent draft has produced very few elite bluechip SG prospects.  But I believe once, Kobe and Wade, starts to age/wear down, 5 years from now, I can see James Harden being in Manu Ginobili level, and even more dynamic than Ginobili.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-I assume Harden and Evans are not qualified.  I would probably go with Evan Turner.  Not a whole lot of good ones that have played 2 years or less.

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks will be a 18-20PPG scorer in this league.  I like his chances for R.O.Y.

7. Most Athletic-DeMar Derozan

8. Best Leader-Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- A) MJ B) Kobe Bryant

 

[sotosParticipant]

 1. Best SG right now- Wade, beating Kobe by a nudge

2. Most Underrated- Tony Allen who? 

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson (based on contract he received)

4. Best SG in 5 years-  Shabazz Muhammad (thinking far down the road becasue he offers more potential than current young sgs. Not saying there are not a lot of good ones but none of the young guys wont come close to Wade or Kobes level

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic- D Wade

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Kobe

10. Best pg in 5 years- John Wall

 

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- I believe Dwayne Wade has over taken Kobe as the best SG in the NBA. 

2. Most Underrated- Monta Ellis, should be a 2 time All Star right now, he was robed of two roster spot, (2010 and 2011)

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson, not only is overrated in my eyes, hes also overpaid.  He gets paid as franchise player, but is really more like a 2nd-3rd option on a great playoff team. 

4. Best SG in 5 years- The recent draft has produced very few elite bluechip SG prospects.  But I believe once, Kobe and Wade, starts to age/wear down, 5 years from now, I can see James Harden being in Manu Ginobili level, and even more dynamic than Ginobili.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-I assume Harden and Evans are not qualified.  I would probably go with Evan Turner.  Not a whole lot of good ones that have played 2 years or less.

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks will be a 18-20PPG scorer in this league.  I like his chances for R.O.Y.

7. Most Athletic-DeMar Derozan

8. Best Leader-Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- A) MJ B) Kobe Bryant

 

[sotosParticipant]

 1. Best SG right now- Wade, beating Kobe by a nudge

2. Most Underrated- Tony Allen who? 

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson (based on contract he received)

4. Best SG in 5 years-  Shabazz Muhammad (thinking far down the road becasue he offers more potential than current young sgs. Not saying there are not a lot of good ones but none of the young guys wont come close to Wade or Kobes level

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic- D Wade

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Kobe

10. Best pg in 5 years- John Wall

 

[JNixonParticipant]

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade over Kobe

2. Most Underrated- I’ve always thought Stephen Jackson was underrated.

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon, out of the current NBA guys

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks. Marshon Brooks is a ballhog who will put up empty scoring numbers on a noncompetitve team.

7. Most Athletic- Dwyane Wade

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

[JNixonParticipant]

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade over Kobe

2. Most Underrated- I’ve always thought Stephen Jackson was underrated.

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon, out of the current NBA guys

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks. Marshon Brooks is a ballhog who will put up empty scoring numbers on a noncompetitve team.

7. Most Athletic- Dwyane Wade

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

[iguapops420Participant]

 I actually just realized that it meant 5 years from now not the past 5 years. As a true Kobe fan, I will stick with my convictions and say he’ll be the best. (Even though my heart says age catches everyone and that’s an almost impossible feat) Assuming he’s retired, I gotta go with Gordon, unless Shubazz comes in and shows people the next true great.

[iguapops420Participant]

 I actually just realized that it meant 5 years from now not the past 5 years. As a true Kobe fan, I will stick with my convictions and say he’ll be the best. (Even though my heart says age catches everyone and that’s an almost impossible feat) Assuming he’s retired, I gotta go with Gordon, unless Shubazz comes in and shows people the next true great.

[iguapops420Participant]

 @ JNixon, while Brooks numbers may be empty, doesn’t mean his individual season won’t be the best for 2 guards. I sinderely doubt Burks has that good of a rookie campaign. IMO, Miles and Hayward are going to step in as the starters at the 2 &3. At least for this year. 

[iguapops420Participant]

 @ JNixon, while Brooks numbers may be empty, doesn’t mean his individual season won’t be the best for 2 guards. I sinderely doubt Burks has that good of a rookie campaign. IMO, Miles and Hayward are going to step in as the starters at the 2 &3. At least for this year. 

[R-Dot-13Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Wade

2. Most Underrated- Kevin Martin, the guy just steps on the court and scores, and he never has any help.

3. Overrated- i guess Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon, James Harden

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-James Harden/Wes Matthews

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson

7. Most Athletic-How about Shannon Brown?!

8. Best Leader-Roy

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Rose or Westbrook

 

[R-Dot-13Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Wade

2. Most Underrated- Kevin Martin, the guy just steps on the court and scores, and he never has any help.

3. Overrated- i guess Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon, James Harden

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-James Harden/Wes Matthews

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson

7. Most Athletic-How about Shannon Brown?!

8. Best Leader-Roy

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Rose or Westbrook

 

[Champzilla21Participant]

 How do you think you earn a contract like that if people arent overrating you

[Champzilla21Participant]

 How do you think you earn a contract like that if people arent overrating you

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 How can you say Joe Johson is overrated when no one ever talks about him?Im not saying he is underrated but how can someone bee over rated him no one even hears about him 

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 How can you say Joe Johson is overrated when no one ever talks about him?Im not saying he is underrated but how can someone bee over rated him no one even hears about him 

[iguapops420Participant]

 KHAM83, did you seriously just say that Kobe isn’t a leader? Half the NBA/NBA related people will disagree with you my friend.

[KHAM83Participant]

KHAM83, did you seriously just say that Kobe isn’t a leader? Half the NBA/NBA related people will disagree with you my friend.

 

 

Then I guess half will agree 🙂

[KHAM83Participant]

KHAM83, did you seriously just say that Kobe isn’t a leader? Half the NBA/NBA related people will disagree with you my friend.

 

 

Then I guess half will agree 🙂

[iguapops420Participant]

 KHAM83, did you seriously just say that Kobe isn’t a leader? Half the NBA/NBA related people will disagree with you my friend.

[JNixonParticipant]

Burks may not start immediately at SG over Miles, but he will contribute more efficiently on a more competitive team. And he also will contribute in more areas than just scoring. Brooks might put up like 8 ppg, but I’m willing to bet he won’t shoot higher than 41% from the floor. And he’s not going to do much anywhere else. Not to mention there’s a very good chance Brooks wont even start for New Jersey.

[JNixonParticipant]

Burks may not start immediately at SG over Miles, but he will contribute more efficiently on a more competitive team. And he also will contribute in more areas than just scoring. Brooks might put up like 8 ppg, but I’m willing to bet he won’t shoot higher than 41% from the floor. And he’s not going to do much anywhere else. Not to mention there’s a very good chance Brooks wont even start for New Jersey.

[sahrgobucksParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Jason Richardson

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Demar Derozen

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic JR. Smith

8. Best Leader- Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Kobe Bryant

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- John Wall or Derrick Rose

[sahrgobucksParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Jason Richardson

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Demar Derozen

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic JR. Smith

8. Best Leader- Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Kobe Bryant

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- John Wall or Derrick Rose

[iguapops420Participant]

 JNixon, you could be right, but Brooks is the kind of guy who like Thronton rookie year, could easily average 15 useless points. BTW, having Brook Lopez beside of you, I could easily see better rebounding nummbers than you would expect. I just personally don’t see Burks having much impact rookie year, while i admit I could be wrong. He could end up the better long term player and probably will, just don’t expect his first year to be better.

[iguapops420Participant]

 JNixon, you could be right, but Brooks is the kind of guy who like Thronton rookie year, could easily average 15 useless points. BTW, having Brook Lopez beside of you, I could easily see better rebounding nummbers than you would expect. I just personally don’t see Burks having much impact rookie year, while i admit I could be wrong. He could end up the better long term player and probably will, just don’t expect his first year to be better.

[omphalosParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwyane Wade; Kobe’s unwillingness to drive the lane against Dallas cost them the series, and Dwyane was an absolute monster the whole post-season. Gotta be Wade.

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon; defensive beast, aggressive scorer, not afraid of the big moment.

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson; never seen what the fuss was all about, certainly not worth that contract.

4. Best SG in 5 years- DeMar DeRozan; he’s a very hard worker, made a huge leap between year 1 and 2, and is going to be the focal point of the Raptors offense for the next 5 years.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks; I’m very high on this kid.

7. Most Athletic-Wade, hands-down.

8. Best Leader- tough to call, I’ll go with Ray Allen for being a steadying presence next to the intensity of PP and KG.

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

[omphalosParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwyane Wade; Kobe’s unwillingness to drive the lane against Dallas cost them the series, and Dwyane was an absolute monster the whole post-season. Gotta be Wade.

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon; defensive beast, aggressive scorer, not afraid of the big moment.

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson; never seen what the fuss was all about, certainly not worth that contract.

4. Best SG in 5 years- DeMar DeRozan; he’s a very hard worker, made a huge leap between year 1 and 2, and is going to be the focal point of the Raptors offense for the next 5 years.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks; I’m very high on this kid.

7. Most Athletic-Wade, hands-down.

8. Best Leader- tough to call, I’ll go with Ray Allen for being a steadying presence next to the intensity of PP and KG.

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

[JNixonParticipant]

Marshon Brooks isn’t as good a shooter, as strong or as quick off the bounce as Marcus Thornton. No coach will be willing to let him score 15 useless points, particularly a short leash defensive minded coach like Avery Johnson. Especially with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams on the floor with him. Thornton played on a team with Darren Collison , David West and basically no one else when he put up 15 ppg.

[JNixonParticipant]

Marshon Brooks isn’t as good a shooter, as strong or as quick off the bounce as Marcus Thornton. No coach will be willing to let him score 15 useless points, particularly a short leash defensive minded coach like Avery Johnson. Especially with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams on the floor with him. Thornton played on a team with Darren Collison , David West and basically no one else when he put up 15 ppg.

[iguapops420Participant]

 Just like Avery didn’t let Vujacic fire dumb shots? Oh wait, that did happen. BTW, Brooks may not have the same quick off the bounce ability of a Thornton, but you’re very much discounting Brooks footwork and 7ft1 wingspan. THe guy can absolutely get any shot he wants. Isn’t going to hurt ANY having Deron Williams setting him up in HIS spots to score.

[iguapops420Participant]

 Just like Avery didn’t let Vujacic fire dumb shots? Oh wait, that did happen. BTW, Brooks may not have the same quick off the bounce ability of a Thornton, but you’re very much discounting Brooks footwork and 7ft1 wingspan. THe guy can absolutely get any shot he wants. Isn’t going to hurt ANY having Deron Williams setting him up in HIS spots to score.

[JNixonParticipant]

"Just like Avery didn’t let Vujacic fire dumb shots? Oh wait, that did happen. BTW, Brooks may not have the same quick off the bounce ability of a Thornton, but you’re very much discounting Brooks footwork and 7ft1 wingspan. THe guy can absolutely get any shot he wants. Isn’t going to hurt ANY having Deron Williams setting him up in HIS spots to score."

Brooks is a ball-stopper who struggles to shoot with his feet set, Deron Williams won’t be there to make up for that. Vujacic played for the Nets and shot bad shots in the brief time he was there. He doesn’t even play in the NBA anymore now though. I wonder why. *shrugs*

[JNixonParticipant]

"Just like Avery didn’t let Vujacic fire dumb shots? Oh wait, that did happen. BTW, Brooks may not have the same quick off the bounce ability of a Thornton, but you’re very much discounting Brooks footwork and 7ft1 wingspan. THe guy can absolutely get any shot he wants. Isn’t going to hurt ANY having Deron Williams setting him up in HIS spots to score."

Brooks is a ball-stopper who struggles to shoot with his feet set, Deron Williams won’t be there to make up for that. Vujacic played for the Nets and shot bad shots in the brief time he was there. He doesn’t even play in the NBA anymore now though. I wonder why. *shrugs*

[nateoak10Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Wade

2. Most Underrated- Gordon

3. Overrated- Kmart

4. Best SG in 5 years- Wade still

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Burks

7. Most Athletic- DeRozan

8. Best Leader- Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, Kobe

[nateoak10Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Wade

2. Most Underrated- Gordon

3. Overrated- Kmart

4. Best SG in 5 years- Wade still

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Burks

7. Most Athletic- DeRozan

8. Best Leader- Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, Kobe

[KHAM83Participant]

nateoak10 ,

I think only people who posts on this site know who he is :-/

[KHAM83Participant]

nateoak10 ,

I think only people who posts on this site know who he is :-/

[iguapops420Participant]

 Vujacic signed a one year deal due to the lockout. His shots had nothing to do with it. BTW, hate to tell you, but Burks has trouble shooting period. Devin Harris isn’t going to help that out. He’s pretty skinny himself also.

[iguapops420Participant]

 Vujacic signed a one year deal due to the lockout. His shots had nothing to do with it. BTW, hate to tell you, but Burks has trouble shooting period. Devin Harris isn’t going to help that out. He’s pretty skinny himself also.

[Scottoant93Participant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now-Dwade

2. Most Underrated- Kevin Martin

3. Overrated-Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years-Tyreke Evans

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke evans

6. Best Rookie SG-Marshon Brooks

7. Most Athletic-Demar DeRozen

8. Best Leader-Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ,Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- John Wall

 

[Scottoant93Participant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now-Dwade

2. Most Underrated- Kevin Martin

3. Overrated-Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years-Tyreke Evans

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke evans

6. Best Rookie SG-Marshon Brooks

7. Most Athletic-Demar DeRozen

8. Best Leader-Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ,Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- John Wall

 

[JNixonParticipant]

You must not have heard about Vujacic complaining and wanted to go overseas. Vujacic has been trying to get overseas since he was in LA. He definitely wasn’t going to be resigned by the Nets anyway. Him coming back to the NBA is very doubtful.

Devin Harris doesn’t help any other guys anyway. He’s a scoring guard as it is. Burks is a creator off the dribble, and he’s not selfish. He probably won’t set the world on fire, but Burks will contribute immediately. The Jazz don’t have the wings to keep him off the floor. And he’s getting stronger. He’s gone from 185 to about 200 lbs since his Fr. year, he’s not anymore weak than Brooks is.

[JNixonParticipant]

You must not have heard about Vujacic complaining and wanted to go overseas. Vujacic has been trying to get overseas since he was in LA. He definitely wasn’t going to be resigned by the Nets anyway. Him coming back to the NBA is very doubtful.

Devin Harris doesn’t help any other guys anyway. He’s a scoring guard as it is. Burks is a creator off the dribble, and he’s not selfish. He probably won’t set the world on fire, but Burks will contribute immediately. The Jazz don’t have the wings to keep him off the floor. And he’s getting stronger. He’s gone from 185 to about 200 lbs since his Fr. year, he’s not anymore weak than Brooks is.

[nateoak10Participant]

Kmart is the Corey Maggette of SG’s , people say he is underrated cause he has never been in a huge market or got exposure and think he has scoring talent. But in reality he is an overpaid flopper who relies on getting to the line to get his production, sure he can shoot 3’s (Maggette could when he was a Clipper for a bit) but he doesn’t bring rebounding, defense or passing to the table.

 

And hes not really super skilled either or a game changer or clutch, he is just sort of there. 

[nateoak10Participant]

Kmart is the Corey Maggette of SG’s , people say he is underrated cause he has never been in a huge market or got exposure and think he has scoring talent. But in reality he is an overpaid flopper who relies on getting to the line to get his production, sure he can shoot 3’s (Maggette could when he was a Clipper for a bit) but he doesn’t bring rebounding, defense or passing to the table.

 

And hes not really super skilled either or a game changer or clutch, he is just sort of there. 

[iguapops420Participant]

 I agree He’s no weaker than Brooks, it’s why I said Himself as if to compare him to Brooks who is honestly probably weaker. And actually Vujacic hasn’t been trying to get overseas since LAL, he threatend to go there if he wasn;t paid. Don;t get your facts wrong bro. i;m at LG daily. As for this season, I dunno, you could be right, but I sincerely doubt it since Sasha has gone on record as sayin that he LOVES playing in the NBA that it’s the best league in the world. Not to mention his relationship to Sharapova. Sorry, to annoy, but I happen to be the biggest Vujacic fan there is. Why? I have no idea, it was the first time I saw him take KG to the hole when he was a rookie then al the heart he showed since.(definitely not for the talent0. Sadly, I have a Vujacic #18 LAL jersey. So again, I honestly doubt he stays in Europe.

[iguapops420Participant]

 I agree He’s no weaker than Brooks, it’s why I said Himself as if to compare him to Brooks who is honestly probably weaker. And actually Vujacic hasn’t been trying to get overseas since LAL, he threatend to go there if he wasn;t paid. Don;t get your facts wrong bro. i;m at LG daily. As for this season, I dunno, you could be right, but I sincerely doubt it since Sasha has gone on record as sayin that he LOVES playing in the NBA that it’s the best league in the world. Not to mention his relationship to Sharapova. Sorry, to annoy, but I happen to be the biggest Vujacic fan there is. Why? I have no idea, it was the first time I saw him take KG to the hole when he was a rookie then al the heart he showed since.(definitely not for the talent0. Sadly, I have a Vujacic #18 LAL jersey. So again, I honestly doubt he stays in Europe.

[JNixonParticipant]

"And actually Vujacic hasn’t been trying to get overseas since LAL, he threatend to go there if he wasn;t paid"

…….He was still trying to go back overseas -____-

[JNixonParticipant]

"And actually Vujacic hasn’t been trying to get overseas since LAL, he threatend to go there if he wasn;t paid"

…….He was still trying to go back overseas -____-

[iguapops420Participant]

 He never had any real intentions of going, he just used Europe as leverage.

[iguapops420Participant]

 He never had any real intentions of going, he just used Europe as leverage.

[JNixonParticipant]

I guess that’s why he’s in Europe right now. Just leverage

[JNixonParticipant]

I guess that’s why he’s in Europe right now. Just leverage

[iguapops420Participant]

 Or the fact that there is a lockout. 

[iguapops420Participant]

 Or the fact that there is a lockout. 

[iguapops420Participant]

 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3508742 

Sasha on resigning with LAL and how it was his largest priority.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1067/player?r=1

Sasha’s contract being one year. one lockout  year.

BTW, where did you hear this supposed complaing from Sasha about wanting to go back to Europe so bad other than an agent saying he’d accept a contract from a European club if his payer wasn’t resigned. And if he wasn’t coming back to the NBA, don’t you think there would be a longer contract signed?

Here’s  direct statement on his return to europe from Vujacic’s official facebook. About 3 posts down.

http://www.facebook.com/svujacic?sk=wall

[iguapops420Participant]

 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3508742 

Sasha on resigning with LAL and how it was his largest priority.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1067/player?r=1

Sasha’s contract being one year. one lockout  year.

BTW, where did you hear this supposed complaing from Sasha about wanting to go back to Europe so bad other than an agent saying he’d accept a contract from a European club if his payer wasn’t resigned. And if he wasn’t coming back to the NBA, don’t you think there would be a longer contract signed?

Here’s  direct statement on his return to europe from Vujacic’s official facebook. About 3 posts down.

http://www.facebook.com/svujacic?sk=wall

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

 1. Best SG right now- Kobe Bryant 

2. Most Underrated- Monte Ellis 

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson ( not a legit #1 Option) 

4. Best SG in 5 years- Dwayne Wade 

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Demar Derozan 

6. Best Rookie SG-  Marshon Brooks

7. Most Athletic- Demar Derozan 

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant 

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ & Kobe 

 

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

 1. Best SG right now- Kobe Bryant 

2. Most Underrated- Monte Ellis 

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson ( not a legit #1 Option) 

4. Best SG in 5 years- Dwayne Wade 

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Demar Derozan 

6. Best Rookie SG-  Marshon Brooks

7. Most Athletic- Demar Derozan 

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant 

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ & Kobe 

 

[iguapops420Participant]

 ^^^Best watch out Guru, I just found out from KHAM83 that apparently Kobe isn’t a leader. So you may wanna hange your answer. ‘Rolls eyes’

[iguapops420Participant]

 ^^^Best watch out Guru, I just found out from KHAM83 that apparently Kobe isn’t a leader. So you may wanna hange your answer. ‘Rolls eyes’

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 1. Best SG right now-D-Wade sorry Kobe you still are a beast

2. Most Underrated-Eric Gordan he is in the shawods of Blake Griffin 

3. Overrated-It is not Joe Johson first of all because no one even talks about him and he got that contract because he is like the Hawks hero for the past 5 years and the Bulls ,Heat and Knicks were all thinking of sighning him to for a superteam

But my pick for most overrated is Manu Ginobili he only everaged 17 ppg on 43% from the field 

4. Best SG in 5 years-Tyreke Evans ,he has all the tools ,he just needs to put them together 

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG-Marshon Brooks,he will put up good numbers playing with Deron

7. Most Athletic-Wade- I would say Shannon but he can only do dunks at full speed run ,but Wade can dunk on anyone on the at full speed and he can throw down dunks from just a straight up dunk

And who here really believes Dwayne Wade is only 6’4 ?Because he plays like he is 6’8 

8. Best Leader-Kobe no doubt. I dont know why yall are saying Ray Allen because KG obviously is the leader on D and Paul Peirce actually makes his clutch free throws while I have seen Ray Allen choke alot .

And Kobe makes Pau Gasol his bitch

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-John Wall ,maybe 6’6 now with lightning speed and he has a chance to break the all time assist record because he started at 20 years old while John Stockton started at 22 years old 

 

Vote u

 

 

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 1. Best SG right now-D-Wade sorry Kobe you still are a beast

2. Most Underrated-Eric Gordan he is in the shawods of Blake Griffin 

3. Overrated-It is not Joe Johson first of all because no one even talks about him and he got that contract because he is like the Hawks hero for the past 5 years and the Bulls ,Heat and Knicks were all thinking of sighning him to for a superteam

But my pick for most overrated is Manu Ginobili he only everaged 17 ppg on 43% from the field 

4. Best SG in 5 years-Tyreke Evans ,he has all the tools ,he just needs to put them together 

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG-Marshon Brooks,he will put up good numbers playing with Deron

7. Most Athletic-Wade- I would say Shannon but he can only do dunks at full speed run ,but Wade can dunk on anyone on the at full speed and he can throw down dunks from just a straight up dunk

And who here really believes Dwayne Wade is only 6’4 ?Because he plays like he is 6’8 

8. Best Leader-Kobe no doubt. I dont know why yall are saying Ray Allen because KG obviously is the leader on D and Paul Peirce actually makes his clutch free throws while I have seen Ray Allen choke alot .

And Kobe makes Pau Gasol his bitch

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-John Wall ,maybe 6’6 now with lightning speed and he has a chance to break the all time assist record because he started at 20 years old while John Stockton started at 22 years old 

 

Vote u

 

 

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

Kobe bryant is soo vocal on the court . He is coaching players when he on and off the court. If you think he isn’t a leader then you must think ron artest is…. right ?

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

Kobe bryant is soo vocal on the court . He is coaching players when he on and off the court. If you think he isn’t a leader then you must think ron artest is…. right ?

[GrovesinternationalParticipant]

1. Best SG right now- Wade

2. Most Underrated- OJ Mayo

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic- Demar DeRozan

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Derrick Rose

[GrovesinternationalParticipant]

1. Best SG right now- Wade

2. Most Underrated- OJ Mayo

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic- Demar DeRozan

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Derrick Rose

[iguapops420Participant]

 Guru, it honestly has to take a real Kobe hater to come up with this assesment. Or someone who hasn’t watched basketball since 2006 when peopl were still talkin ish bout Bean.

[iguapops420Participant]

 Guru, it honestly has to take a real Kobe hater to come up with this assesment. Or someone who hasn’t watched basketball since 2006 when peopl were still talkin ish bout Bean.

[stepback3Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade over Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Wesley Matthews

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years-Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks.

7. Most Athletic- Dwyane Wade

8. Best Leader- Brandon Roy

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

[stepback3Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade over Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Wesley Matthews

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years-Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks.

7. Most Athletic- Dwyane Wade

8. Best Leader- Brandon Roy

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

[derozan10Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Dwyane Wade

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG- Marshon Brooks

7. Most Athletic- DeMar DeRozan/JR Smith

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ & Kobe Bryant

[derozan10Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Dwyane Wade

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG- Marshon Brooks

7. Most Athletic- DeMar DeRozan/JR Smith

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ & Kobe Bryant

[jaysmith1987Participant]

Best sg right now kobe. I think kobe and lebron win a title. Kobe still is the most complete on offense and first team defense.

Most underated- Marcus Thorton werever he goes he lights up scoreboards givin the pt.

Most overated- Ginobili gets too much credit when Tim Duncan is the big reason behind championships and Stephan Jackson was just as good in san antonio.

5yrs- derozan i see him being vc in his prime.

Young sg- derozan

Rookie- Marshon Brooks

Athletic-Wade

Leader-Kobe

Top2- Jordan and his protege.

[jaysmith1987Participant]

Best sg right now kobe. I think kobe and lebron win a title. Kobe still is the most complete on offense and first team defense.

Most underated- Marcus Thorton werever he goes he lights up scoreboards givin the pt.

Most overated- Ginobili gets too much credit when Tim Duncan is the big reason behind championships and Stephan Jackson was just as good in san antonio.

5yrs- derozan i see him being vc in his prime.

Young sg- derozan

Rookie- Marshon Brooks

Athletic-Wade

Leader-Kobe

Top2- Jordan and his protege.

[Allen_Iverson_3Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years- DWade/Eric Gordon/Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Harden/DeRozan

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic-DeRozan (JR Smith is to me the second, he is SO spectacular)

8. Best Leader-Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-MJ, Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Rose

[Allen_Iverson_3Participant]

1. Best SG right now- Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years- DWade/Eric Gordon/Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Harden/DeRozan

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic-DeRozan (JR Smith is to me the second, he is SO spectacular)

8. Best Leader-Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-MJ, Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Rose

[lbj_6]

1. Best SG right now-Wade

2. Most Underrated-Eric Gordon

3. Overrated-Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years-Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG-Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic-DeMar DeRozan

8. Best Leader-Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-Rose

[lbj_6]

1. Best SG right now-Wade

2. Most Underrated-Eric Gordon

3. Overrated-Monta Ellis

4. Best SG in 5 years-Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke Evans

6. Best Rookie SG-Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic-DeMar DeRozan

8. Best Leader-Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-Rose

[LBJKDParticipant]

Best right now- Dwyane Wade

Most Underrated- Brandon Roy (before injury)

Overrated-Joe Johnson

Best in 5 years-Don’t know maybe shabazz

Best Young- Tyreke or James Harden

Best Rookie- Klay Thompson

Most Athletic- Demar with DWade a close second

Best Leader- kobe

Top 2 – MJ and Jerry West tied with kobe. Gotta pick the man that is the nba logo

[LBJKDParticipant]

Best right now- Dwyane Wade

Most Underrated- Brandon Roy (before injury)

Overrated-Joe Johnson

Best in 5 years-Don’t know maybe shabazz

Best Young- Tyreke or James Harden

Best Rookie- Klay Thompson

Most Athletic- Demar with DWade a close second

Best Leader- kobe

Top 2 – MJ and Jerry West tied with kobe. Gotta pick the man that is the nba logo

[B-ball fanParticipant]

Best Today: Dwayne Wade

Most Underrated: Mike Dunleavy

Most Overrated: Monta Ellis

Best in 5 Years: Eric Gordon

Best Young SG: James Harden

Best Rookie SG: Alec Burks

Most Athletic: Demar Derozan

Best Leader: Brandon Roy

Top 2 All-time: MJ and Kobe

Best PG in 5 years: John Wall

 

 

 

 

[B-ball fanParticipant]

Best Today: Dwayne Wade

Most Underrated: Mike Dunleavy

Most Overrated: Monta Ellis

Best in 5 Years: Eric Gordon

Best Young SG: James Harden

Best Rookie SG: Alec Burks

Most Athletic: Demar Derozan

Best Leader: Brandon Roy

Top 2 All-time: MJ and Kobe

Best PG in 5 years: John Wall

 

 

 

 

[TheBigEasyParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon (although he´s more a hybrid SG/PG)

3. Overrated- Vince Carter (never liked his mentality one bit)

4. Best SG in 5 years- I don´t know a lot on college/HS school bball to give a really good assessment on this one.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson. I think Burks is maybe a bit to raw to get a lot of minutes from the get go.

7. Most Athletic- Dwayne Wade

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Again, since I don´t have a real insight on college and HS phenoms. I´ll have to go with the reigning MVP. Derrick Rose.

[TheBigEasyParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon (although he´s more a hybrid SG/PG)

3. Overrated- Vince Carter (never liked his mentality one bit)

4. Best SG in 5 years- I don´t know a lot on college/HS school bball to give a really good assessment on this one.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson. I think Burks is maybe a bit to raw to get a lot of minutes from the get go.

7. Most Athletic- Dwayne Wade

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Again, since I don´t have a real insight on college and HS phenoms. I´ll have to go with the reigning MVP. Derrick Rose.

[TheBigEasyParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon (although he´s more a hybrid SG/PG)

3. Overrated- Vince Carter (never liked his mentality one bit)

4. Best SG in 5 years- I don´t know a lot on college/HS school bball to give a really good assessment on this one.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson. I think Burks is maybe a bit to raw to get a lot of minutes from the get go.

7. Most Athletic- Dwayne Wade

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Again, since I don´t have a real insight on college and HS phenoms. I´ll have to go with the reigning MVP. Derrick Rose.

[TheBigEasyParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon (although he´s more a hybrid SG/PG)

3. Overrated- Vince Carter (never liked his mentality one bit)

4. Best SG in 5 years- I don´t know a lot on college/HS school bball to give a really good assessment on this one.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson. I think Burks is maybe a bit to raw to get a lot of minutes from the get go.

7. Most Athletic- Dwayne Wade

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Again, since I don´t have a real insight on college and HS phenoms. I´ll have to go with the reigning MVP. Derrick Rose.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Kobe Bryant. As much as I love Dwyane Wade, I still think Kobe is the best. I expect him to have a great year next season.

2. Most Underrated- Jason Terry, one of the tougher covers in the NBA

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis, I think he is fantastic, incredibly quick, but he has yet to carry a team to even moderate success. For a player some see as the best SG outside of Kobe and Dwyane Wade, I believe that makes him overrated.

4. Best SG in 5 years- Dwyane Wade. He might be 34, but barring major injury, chances are he will be where Kobe is right now.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden, he just has some great All-Around tools. I like DeMar DeRozan, but his shaky long distance shooting worries me, and Harden is the better All-Around player.

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson

7. Most Athletic- Dwyane Wade, add everything up, it is not really close.

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant, leads by example. No one works harder, no one has a higher tolerance for pain.

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Michael is definitely the best. Kobe is second, and third I would say is Jerry West. Dwyane Wade is going to creep up on Jerry, though.

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Derrick Rose

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Kobe Bryant. As much as I love Dwyane Wade, I still think Kobe is the best. I expect him to have a great year next season.

2. Most Underrated- Jason Terry, one of the tougher covers in the NBA

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis, I think he is fantastic, incredibly quick, but he has yet to carry a team to even moderate success. For a player some see as the best SG outside of Kobe and Dwyane Wade, I believe that makes him overrated.

4. Best SG in 5 years- Dwyane Wade. He might be 34, but barring major injury, chances are he will be where Kobe is right now.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden, he just has some great All-Around tools. I like DeMar DeRozan, but his shaky long distance shooting worries me, and Harden is the better All-Around player.

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson

7. Most Athletic- Dwyane Wade, add everything up, it is not really close.

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant, leads by example. No one works harder, no one has a higher tolerance for pain.

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Michael is definitely the best. Kobe is second, and third I would say is Jerry West. Dwyane Wade is going to creep up on Jerry, though.

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Derrick Rose

[nba00Participant]

 

1. Best SG right now-Kobe, still better and more consistent shooter than wade

2. Most Underrated- Jason Terry

3. Overrated-Oj Mayo, if he is as good as we had expected, there is no reason to make him a bench player

4. Best SG in 5 years-Derozan, if shabazz is not included in this 5 years

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Alec Burks

6. Best Rookie SG-Marshon Brooks

7. Most Athletic-Wade

8. Best Leader-Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-MJ, Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-Derrick Rose

[nba00Participant]

 

1. Best SG right now-Kobe, still better and more consistent shooter than wade

2. Most Underrated- Jason Terry

3. Overrated-Oj Mayo, if he is as good as we had expected, there is no reason to make him a bench player

4. Best SG in 5 years-Derozan, if shabazz is not included in this 5 years

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Alec Burks

6. Best Rookie SG-Marshon Brooks

7. Most Athletic-Wade

8. Best Leader-Kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-MJ, Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-Derrick Rose

[patdawg5Participant]

1. Best SG right now- D-Wade, just to athletic and a team guy.

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon, dude can flat out score, extremely athletic, can hit the 3 ball.

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis, lacks size to play the sg, way to ball dominant, this is currys team now.

4. Best SG in 5 years- James Harden, will be a star, has great all around stats, needs to start next year.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Lance Stephenson, cant teach talent.. needs to get his head right. will be a very special player.

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson, can stroke from deep, steph and clay will be hitting from down town all day.

7. Most Athletic- Wes Matthews, hes a beast, should be an all-star down the road.

8. Best Leader- D Wade, gotta let Bron know its his team, he can lead the heat very far.

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, Kobe, Zeke

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Brandon Knight, look out for B Knight, Pistons got a huge steal.

[patdawg5Participant]

1. Best SG right now- D-Wade, just to athletic and a team guy.

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon, dude can flat out score, extremely athletic, can hit the 3 ball.

3. Overrated- Monta Ellis, lacks size to play the sg, way to ball dominant, this is currys team now.

4. Best SG in 5 years- James Harden, will be a star, has great all around stats, needs to start next year.

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- Lance Stephenson, cant teach talent.. needs to get his head right. will be a very special player.

6. Best Rookie SG- Klay Thompson, can stroke from deep, steph and clay will be hitting from down town all day.

7. Most Athletic- Wes Matthews, hes a beast, should be an all-star down the road.

8. Best Leader- D Wade, gotta let Bron know its his team, he can lead the heat very far.

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- MJ, Kobe, Zeke

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Brandon Knight, look out for B Knight, Pistons got a huge steal.

[iguapops420Participant]

 Zeke was a pg. And I REALLY don’t think Mathews is the most athletic 2 in L. Far from it really. 

Those who are putting Derozan, I don’t think you’re all thinking of athleticism from top to bottom, simply the vert. There isn’t a 2 in the L that has Wades vert,lateral quicks,end to end speed,first step, strength,length, and exploziveness. Demar’s first step is rather lacking in comparison to his vert.

[iguapops420Participant]

 Zeke was a pg. And I REALLY don’t think Mathews is the most athletic 2 in L. Far from it really. 

Those who are putting Derozan, I don’t think you’re all thinking of athleticism from top to bottom, simply the vert. There isn’t a 2 in the L that has Wades vert,lateral quicks,end to end speed,first step, strength,length, and exploziveness. Demar’s first step is rather lacking in comparison to his vert.

[kobyzParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- still Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Jason Richardson

3. Overrated- Tyreke Evans

4. Best SG in 5 years- Evan Turner

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden/DeMar DeRozan

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic- Dwyane Wade, Gerald Henderson

8. Best Leader- Manu Ginobili

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Kobe just as great as MJ!

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Derrick Rose

[kobyzParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- still Kobe

2. Most Underrated- Jason Richardson

3. Overrated- Tyreke Evans

4. Best SG in 5 years- Evan Turner

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden/DeMar DeRozan

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic- Dwyane Wade, Gerald Henderson

8. Best Leader- Manu Ginobili

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- Kobe just as great as MJ!

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Derrick Rose

[larbear260Participant]

 

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade- hes the best RIGHT NOW, hes got ring #1, when he was finals mvp, he is still young and on a promising team, no matter what all the "espn experts" say Wade is the face of the heat and their true leader (hence the real reason he sat with lebron at press conferences so lebron wouldnt say something stupid)…wade took over as the best a few years ago but hes beginning to distance himself from kobe as kobe ages.

2. Most Underrated- Monte Ellis/James Harden- monte is underrated only because he hasnt been an allstar yet…somehow, he puts up huge numbers, i dont care what system you play in, his numbers are awesome…james harden in the next 2 years will break into the convo of the best 2 in the game, great all around player, i think takes over as the starter in okc next season, doesnt get love with durant and westbrook already there

3. Overrated-Joe Johnson-119,000,000 the only reason needed for this one

4. Best SG in 5 years-Wade – will still be the best in 5 years but a few players who will be right on his back are DeRozan, Tyreke Evans, James Harden…i know its early but i really want to say its going to be Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke Evans– over harden based off what theyve already accomplished

6. Best Rookie SG- Marshon Brooks- close over Alec Burks but brooks is a pure scorer and will only get great looks with deron williams setting him up

7. Most Athletic- DeRozan- he reminds me of a vince carter athletically

8. Best Leader-Kobe- he just demands excellence and respect

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- 1. Michael Jordan 2.Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Westbrook over rose, wall, paul, williams because if he stays with KD35 he will prob have a championship in that time period

 

 

[larbear260Participant]

 

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade- hes the best RIGHT NOW, hes got ring #1, when he was finals mvp, he is still young and on a promising team, no matter what all the "espn experts" say Wade is the face of the heat and their true leader (hence the real reason he sat with lebron at press conferences so lebron wouldnt say something stupid)…wade took over as the best a few years ago but hes beginning to distance himself from kobe as kobe ages.

2. Most Underrated- Monte Ellis/James Harden- monte is underrated only because he hasnt been an allstar yet…somehow, he puts up huge numbers, i dont care what system you play in, his numbers are awesome…james harden in the next 2 years will break into the convo of the best 2 in the game, great all around player, i think takes over as the starter in okc next season, doesnt get love with durant and westbrook already there

3. Overrated-Joe Johnson-119,000,000 the only reason needed for this one

4. Best SG in 5 years-Wade – will still be the best in 5 years but a few players who will be right on his back are DeRozan, Tyreke Evans, James Harden…i know its early but i really want to say its going to be Shabazz Muhammad

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)-Tyreke Evans– over harden based off what theyve already accomplished

6. Best Rookie SG- Marshon Brooks- close over Alec Burks but brooks is a pure scorer and will only get great looks with deron williams setting him up

7. Most Athletic- DeRozan- he reminds me of a vince carter athletically

8. Best Leader-Kobe- he just demands excellence and respect

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)- 1. Michael Jordan 2.Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- Westbrook over rose, wall, paul, williams because if he stays with KD35 he will prob have a championship in that time period

 

 

[JoeWolf1]

 1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon

3. Overrated- O.J. Mayo

4. Best SG in 5 years- Dwayne Wade

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Marshawn Brooks ( Burks isn’t as NBA ready IMO)

7. Most Athletic- James Harden

8. Best Leader –  Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time – Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant

 

[JoeWolf1]

 1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Eric Gordon

3. Overrated- O.J. Mayo

4. Best SG in 5 years- Dwayne Wade

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Marshawn Brooks ( Burks isn’t as NBA ready IMO)

7. Most Athletic- James Harden

8. Best Leader –  Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time – Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant

 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Monta Ellis

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic- Demar Derozan

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- John Wall

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Shooting Guards Today:

1. Best SG right now- Dwayne Wade

2. Most Underrated- Monta Ellis

3. Overrated- Joe Johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- Eric Gordon

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- James Harden

6. Best Rookie SG- Alec Burks

7. Most Athletic- Demar Derozan

8. Best Leader- Kobe Bryant

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-MJ and Kobe

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years- John Wall

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 1. Best SG right now- battle between kobe and wade

2. Most Underrated- eric gordon and maybe monta ellis

3. Overrated-i dont think there are really overrated SG’s out there… if i had to choose one, maybe joe johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- i rlly have no idea who to put…i think its between wade, derozen or evans

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- tyreke

6. Best Rookie SG-burks

7. Most Athletic-wade #1 and jr smith and shannon brown in 2nd

8. Best Leader-kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-kobe in 2nd

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-i think rose

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 1. Best SG right now- battle between kobe and wade

2. Most Underrated- eric gordon and maybe monta ellis

3. Overrated-i dont think there are really overrated SG’s out there… if i had to choose one, maybe joe johnson

4. Best SG in 5 years- i rlly have no idea who to put…i think its between wade, derozen or evans

5. Best Young SG (2 years or less played)- tyreke

6. Best Rookie SG-burks

7. Most Athletic-wade #1 and jr smith and shannon brown in 2nd

8. Best Leader-kobe

9. Top 2 All Time (since everybody will have MJ)-kobe in 2nd

Also one more for PGs: Best PG in 5 years-i think rose

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