[MagikKnickParticipant]

 "Could he not at least be a decent back up".

Thats’s the thing, he’s a backup…hes a good PG, but hes a backup in the league and everyone knows it. You dont draft someone in the 1st round to be your long-term backup PG.

 

[jaysmith1987Participant]

Why no love for machado he has the passing and hes a pretty sneaky shooter. Why is he not a first round lock? Could he not at least be a decent back up. I see a guy who could end up beimg the best point if
In the right situation. He le iona to a good record and the tournament thats not am easy task.

[drk3351Participant]

 ^^ okc did last year with Reggie Jackson

[I May Be WrongParticipant]

 Yeah he’s going to be a backup for a majority of his career but thats not a bad thing. Many solid PGs stick around for being solid backups. Machado will probably be selected mid to late second round I think and one team I could see using some depth at PG who can manage the game is Philadelphia at either one of their second round picks. With the rumors of Lou Williams possibly leaving, Scott Machado could provide some minutes as a backup to Jrue Holiday. I like what Scott would bring for that Philadelphia second unit as we would be more of a facilitator to Young, Allen, and whoever else the Sixers use in the 2nd unit. 

[surveParticipant]

 Jackson is a different player than Machado.  I wouldnt say he is a long-term backup.  Not saying Machado wont or cant be better, but the upside is different.  Jackson is an off the charts athlete at 6’3" with a freakish 7’1" wingspan.  He is basically a "baby Westbrook".  While he is not a true PG (neither is Westbrook) and Machado is…OKC saw what they saw in Westbrook and if Jackson develops, he is insurance for Westbrook leaving in a few years (also, remember the flack Westbrook got last year before OKC drafted Jackson).  If Westbrook is still around and Jackson gets a chance to be showcased….then Jackson will likely be traded.

Machado is not a project, you know what you will be getting with him and he will only excel in certain systems.  Due to the talent this year Machado is not even a lock for the 2nd round.  Machado doesnt really have anything that makes him anymore intriguing than anyone else.  Marshall is equal if not better as a facilatator with more size and played against better comp….while most of the other combo guards are way above him athletically.

[mosdefParticipant]

i think people will think he is a system guy cuz his team was the #1 scoring team in the NCAA

[drk3351Participant]

 Surve, I know Jackson and machado are differnt players, but the thunder still drafted him to be the backup point guard. I dont see westbrook leaving anytime soon. And even if jackosn has more potential he still was drafted as a backup, im not arguing who is the better player but i dont see him beoming a starter in okc. So, he in fact was drafted to be a backup in the first round

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 Yeah, its better to draft a good backup in the 1st than a below average starter (which are sometimes the same thing).  Playoff teams drafting at the end of the first round often have productive starting fives anyways.  Just because a player is best suited as a backup or specialist does not mean he can’t slide to the end of the 1st round.  

Machado’s problem is that there are a lot of talented guards out there, many of whom with more dynamic abilities than him.  Point guards in todays NBA are counted on to slash to the hoop and put pressure on defenses in ways that Machado may not be able to at the NBA level.  

[surveParticipant]

 I see what you are saying, but I dont look at him as being drafted as a backup.  I look at Jackson being drafted as "insurance".  Westbrook was up for a new contract….and while OKC was confident they could resign him, nothing is a given.  Also, I think because of how Westbrook looked in the playoffs, they at least considered fielding offers for him, especially since Rondo and Paul were rumored to be traded.  

I really dont believe Jackson was drafted to be a backup.  The fact that Westbrook’s contract has been re-upped and he was a big part of their getting to the Finals….of course Reggie wont be a starter there, but could be for another team.   I dont think you make a guarantee to a guy weeks out because you want him to be a lifetime backup.  If Jackson becomes really good, then he will have some trade value.

Machado is not a guy with a lot of perceived upside.  So my point about Jackson is, he has upside and is similar to Westbrook in a lot of ways.  If Westbrook were to be injured, Jackson is the same type of player that could step in and they wouldnt have to make a lot of adjustments because they play similar.  Maynor is a different type of PG, as is Machado.   There are not many teams that would draft Machado as insurance, but more for depth.  He could however be great in certain systems, like if he were to play behind Nash.

[kobyzParticipant]

actually Reggie Jackson was drafted as a third PG, Eric Maynor…

[surveParticipant]

 no, Maynor has established himself as the backup.  What I mean by that is, if Jackson becomes a good player, it is likely he would be dealt before Maynor because he would be more valuable.  Jackson was drafted with the potential to be a starter or a valuable trade chip provided he cant move into OKC’s starting lineup.  Reggie Jackson was not drafted to be a lifetime backup anymore than Eric Bledsoe was.   OKC couldve unloaded Jackson this year, same as Clippers couldve unloaded Bledsoe…so why didnt they?  

This doesnt mean they will ever start for their respective teams, but all they have to do is show flashes and someone looking for a PG will take interest in them.  Ty Lawson wasnt drafted to be a backup, Darren Collison wasnt, Avery Bradley wasnt, etc…. I just dont agree you use a 1st round pick on a guy who you believe is only going to be a bench player.  You pick a guy hoping in his first year or two he shows he is capable of being a starter, for you or someone else, then you have a valuable trade chip.   Perfect example….do you really think the Knicks drafted Rod Strickland to be Mark Jackson’s backup???  They thought Rod had more potential, but off the court, Strickland proved a liability so they parted with him.  They actually got him in hopes to get rid of Jackson.

I dont think anyone is looking at Machado as an eventual replacement for their current PG or a valuable trade piece in a year or two.

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