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  • #663380
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    CavsFan07
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    Uhm.. I’ll be the first to say it..

    LINK please? Source of any kind? He had stated he was returning to school just over a week ago, so you not giving any type of source makes us question this thread as well as your credibility.

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  • #663382
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    McDunkin
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    jaymack1908
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     Where do you hunk he’ll be drafted I think he should go top 10 no lower than 15….

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  • #663381
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    avavalis
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    Dumb very very dumb move! He could be even in the top five next year had he stayed, gained back his explosiveness and improve a bit his handles.

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  • #663384
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    JunkYardDog
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     yeah poor decision making…. maybe he’ll find a team at the end of the 1st round willing to tale a risk and wait for 3, 4 years to see him producing.  

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  • #663383
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    jaymack1908
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     I was just about to post the same link. He told Yahoo sports.

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  • #663385
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    patty-mills

    Did Mcdunkin really just post without using a gif?

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  • #663389
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    TheArtistPaysthePrice
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    I know Cavsfan wants a source because if its true its helps us a hole lot. Adding one player to the top 25 helps Cavs get a better prospect with lakers pick. Baylor has so many long wings its going to be loaded and Miller probably realized when its all said and done PJ3 is going top 8. I would think I should leave to because when measurements come in size matters. A good team at the latter end of the 1rst will pick him because its hard to get potential at those spots.

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  • #663396
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    Hale
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     Big mistake. Next year he could’ve made himself a top 10 maybe even top 5 lock. Coming out now he probably won’t go before 20 (like JoeWolf said).

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  • #663397
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    McDunkin

     Here you go Patty

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  • #663394
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    JoeWolf1

     Eh, Miller is a tall guard with pretty good range.  However, he’s also rail thin, inconsistant and had a serious knee injury.  He’s not a lottery pick, IMO, I wouldn’t pick him before 20th.  

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  • #663398
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    FearTheStache
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     Poor decision on his part. But, wow, this draft is even more deep now

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  • #663400
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     Its crazzy that he did this, but i understand. He could not wait until next year. He needed the money from my understanding and he will be a excelent player once he fully recovers, he woulda been top 5 to 10 next year tho… he should have came back, but everyone has their reasons.

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  • #663401
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    M-Eazy
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    Top 10 no lower than 15?! WTF?!  This kid is making a horrible decision declaring after that season.  He needed to come back and get his ACL right.  I thought the fact that his homie Duece is on the team meant that he was really staying.  Now will Duece transfer or stay?  He fell out of the rotation last year anyway.

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  • #663402
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    Wahoo757
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    I wouldn’t take him over Harkless and he isn’t even in the lottery.

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  • #663405
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    benny15
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    Harkless? i wouldnt take him over Jeffry Taylor. Quincy right now is a bubble first in my mind. a christian eyenga type player. low risk high reward since he’ll probably be taken later in the draft, maybe even without a guaranteed contract, so if he doesnt cut it, well, will get cut in training camp. could be the guard version of Chris Taft.

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  • #663410
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  • #663411
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    B-ball fan
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     I must say that while I think Miller could have really boosted his stock by returning (if he is indeed leaving), he is a very solid prospect in my eyes.  He can handle the ball well, can make shots of the dribble, and is a good spot-up shooter.  Sure, he needs to gain strength and hopefully explosiveness, but he has serious scoring instincts.  He has very good potential as an iso scorer who can space the floor as well, but he needs to prove he can be a good defender.  

    I am disappointed he didn’t stay to boost his stock, but now I am really hoping the Celtics take him.  He looks like the ideal player to learn under Pierce and possibly become a major building block down the road, at least for a player taken late in the 1st.

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  • #663412
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    If he stayed one year and produced/improved, could have been a top-10 pick.

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  • #663421
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    Chilbert arenas
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     He most likely talked to PJ3 and didn’t want the same thing to happen to him, dumb dumb dumb move Quincy 

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  • #663422
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    uknation
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     Not a dumb move at all. Could get injured again,stock could drop like Sully,Barnes,perry. He’s a lock for the first round and even if he got drafted higher that money wouldn’t make up the money he lost this year

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  • #663427
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    SmooveKRYPT
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    I really wanted him to come back next year & gain the confidence in his knee back 100%.com he’d be going top 5. I’m not really sure how long its gonna take him to become an impact player at the NBA level now. He’s been spending a lot of time with Isiah Austin. Lately & Bello being his best friend I thought for sure he was coming back & Baylor would be a problem in the big 12 again next yr.
    I think what happenedd to Perry Jones had to influence him deciding to declare.

    I have no idea where he’ll go in the draft. He’s a guaranteed 1st rounder. Probably slotted in the same range as Harkless, Royce White, & Tony Mitchell…but he’s as talented, if not more than Harrison Barnes when fully healthy. He’s gonna measure great, & if he’s got some of his quickness & explosiveness back since the season ended he could kill workouts. It wouldn’t surprise me if he snuck into the late lotto after the process is over, but for now I say early 20s.

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  • #663428
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    Rafter
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    Best of luck to him, he should’ve stayed IMO, having another year of college basketball under his belt would’ve really help him due to the injury he suffered.

    Most likely a late first round pick that could sneak into the early twenties, Orlando could always do with some more wing players, their wing players aren’t getting much younger and they don’t have any ‘for-sure’ prospects to take over, Clark could be that guy, but it would be in the Magic’s best interest to have Miller and Clark fight for the SF position or they could plan for Miller to be the SG of the future, having said that, Miller would be a decent back-up for Richardson and Redick while providing some SF cover.

    It’s going to be a tougher road declaring this year then it would next year but it wasn’t supposed to be easy to begin with, he feels like he’s ready so we’ll see how things work out.

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  • #663453
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    Kinguy11
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     I find this ironic, as I read an article yesterday with a dude saying that the player who made the smartest descion to return was Quincy Miller. I’ll see if I can find it.

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  • #663456
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    Kinguy11
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    atlienkev
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    thought for sure he’d stay. considering he’s already torn an ACL in high school, i can understand being wary of injury. but another year at Baylor could have helped him loads. who knows whether he’ll reach his full potential now. i hope so tho.

     

    props to him for playing the eligibility lists too!

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  • #663467
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    TheArtistPaysthePrice
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    and my leg, even fell asleep and started tingling….I would enter the draft. You cant risk injury and a million dollar pay cut to play for a 15,000 dollar education. Even if he ups his staus to top 10, which was unlikely because Peirre Jackson is a gun, he could make that money up by being able to enter free agency a year earlier. How could he possibly slip past Boston and Atlanta at 23 and 24.

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  • #663471
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    Bmore_DC
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     hell def go first round on potential alone…

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  • #663480
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    jhbm24
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    what if the cavs can get jeremy lamb and quincy miller for irvings and thompsons running mates. that of course if drummond isnt there.

    and i dont understand how people can say he cant fulfill his potential just because hes delcaring. if anything it will help because hes gna get better medical staffs to help his knee to 100%. and the weight training with be better for him. so i think this is a good move, but i know it would have been nice to see him play as the man at baylor.

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  • #663481
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    sheltwon3
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    @ uknation I agree with you.  A lot of people on here hate this move for their own selfish reason.  It appears Quincy will get drafted 1st round gurantee money and he knows he situation better than us,  He does not appear to be misled by false information.  It would have been good for him to stay for Baylor fans and college b ball fans but i think ulimately he did what was best for him.  I think he just made some team with a late pick very happy because they are going to get a top 5 talent late in the draft.

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  • #663501
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    chocboywndr
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    Reality is he may drop to second round. If that knee doesn’t checkout perfect especially after what happened with Brandon Roy he could really regret this move. He should have waited, it is usually  takes18 months before knee is back to normal, and another 6 until explosivness comes back all the way. He wasn’t top athlete to start off. When he gets into those workouts could really hurt his stock.  He had a chance to blow up next year, team looked pretty good. I hope he doesn’t become another sad story.

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  • #663508
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    kanyedabest
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    all the ppl saying DUMB move are the ones who are dumb!……… listen, this guy has blown out a knee already, there is no way im going back to school to risk not only another injury but also risking your career…. by the time its ll said and done he will go between late lottery and mid 20’s, he has to much size and potential to slip outta first round

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  • #663520
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    i remember all the quincy miller band wagoners early in the season.

    one of my true first posts here on…

    ""i officially think he is over rated right now. as im watching the game and keep an eye on him, i can tell you he’s not great at anything. not a nice jumpshot, over rated ball handler, not great at penetrating, and not great defender. he can still develop a bunch, if i was him i would wait another year""

    i was offending him, now i’m the one defending him…. what happened to all of his potential, did it just vanish??????

    the dude has tons of upside, specially physically… 6’9 with a huge 7’2 wingspan, he’s putting 17p-8r-2a-1s-1b "per 40 mins" (tho he only plays 25 mins) on a team with good players that was winning, pj3 put up 17p-10r-2a-1b-1s as a sophomore, almost identical #s.

    to tell you the truth i rather ISO him than pj3, miller showed more shot off the dribble and more handles… from the top of my head – he might be the best ball handler at 6’9 in all cbb.  

     

      

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  • #663719
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    WizardofOz
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     I don’t think this was a good move for him. Most mocks have him projected late 1st round, and some have him being picked as late as the 2nd round. And I’m not sure he’s a prospect that would look great in workouts to do his below-average athleticism and injury history.

    I’m not a big fan of his game. He’s got pretty good physical tools (great height and wingspan) and a good shooting touch, and he’s a very average athlete who will struggle to create his own shot on the perimeter. His handle is solid for his size, but nothing special. Poor man’s Lamar Odom. 

    He’d be a good pick in the 2nd round though for potential. 

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  • #663721
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    Harbinger

     Hey the bobcatshes a  have mins and money….at first I thought it was bad but baylor has a scandal going on there losing scholarship and in this draft he can go first round and atleast make it second round and get signed.Its going to take a couple years for him to be NBA ready but look at avery its going to be worth it if hes a dedicated pro about it.

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  • #663722
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    omphalos
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    Yeah I’m still thinking this could work out perfectly, instead of coming back next year and playing for a terrible team, he might end up somewhere he could play in the post-season off the bat.

    Orlando comes to mind, as does Houston, Dallas, Boston, Golden State, Phoenix. None of these guys have long-term cornerstones at the SF position, at least none that have a higher upside than Miller.

    If he were to end up with a rebuilding team, I’d love to see him play for Detroit if the Pistons can acquire a late first rounder to get him with. Knight, Monroe and Miller are a great core to build around, with Stuckey still young enough to be part of their future and working well with Brandon Knight, and Jerebko as a role player at the PF position.

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  • #663902
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    This might not be as bad as it appears on the surface. Miller will likely be taken by a good team where he can gradually reach his potential. He won’t be thrown to the wolves, and will be able to learn behind the veterans. I believe that Miller is a good enough player to make this decision work out in the end.

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  • #663897
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    surve
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     ….he could get injured again, this is true for everyone who plays amateur/collegiate sports.  In Miller’s case though, its just as much of a risk if not more to declare this year than to play another year at Baylor.

    scenarios:

    Pros of staying:

    • Much more money for your nest egg in case you do get injured.  Look at Greg Oden.  The higher you go, the more financially set you can become.
    • Another year as featured player will not only help his stock, but he can improve on things that are questionable about him
    • Possibly not as deep a draft next year.  SF’s with size could be at a real premium.

    Cons of staying

    • getting hurt
    • underperforming

    Pros of going

    • money right now
    • he could get picked by a good team and not have such lofty expectations for his first 2 or 3 years

    Cons of going

    • he may have gotten info that some teams drafting in the 1st round are interested because I dont believe he is a lock
    • deep draft
    • if he falls into the 2nd round, he will have to work very very hard to earn his living.
    • he is still about 3 years away from being a good NBA player in the first place, if he doesnt show promise within his first 3 years he could be out of the league

    I would lean towards staying.  I just think the risk for him leaving is possibly greater than him taking a chance on playing in college for another year.  Unless someone has told his agent that they are going to pick him, like OKC did with Reggie Jackson.

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  • #664492
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    jhbm24
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    teams that draft well like spurs and okc will love to take him

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  • #664569
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    TheLastWord
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    Risky pick. Don’t like the fact he doesn’t jump at all.

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