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  • #53226
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    Lotto Stud
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     Should HS ball convert over to playing 2 halfs instead of  4 quarters?

    Could we possibly see a change in the near future?

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  • #859463
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    Lindsey
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    Yeah that would help for prep, but i think the real issue is the leagues that go without a shot clock. does all kinds of damage for development. 

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  • #859571
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    Lindsey
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    Yeah that would help for prep, but i think the real issue is the leagues that go without a shot clock. does all kinds of damage for development. 

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  • #859465
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    Chewy
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     a national prep school conference. Schools like Oak Hill, Monteverde and Prime Prep arn’t eligable for their state tourny anyway (correct me if I’m wrong on this please). There clearly is a market to make this happen as the Nike NYBL is proof of that! Then we can see the sure fire D1 prospects play against each other instead of the crushing lesser talent for four years.

    This also would help the top players develop more quickly…

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  • #859573
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    Chewy
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     a national prep school conference. Schools like Oak Hill, Monteverde and Prime Prep arn’t eligable for their state tourny anyway (correct me if I’m wrong on this please). There clearly is a market to make this happen as the Nike NYBL is proof of that! Then we can see the sure fire D1 prospects play against each other instead of the crushing lesser talent for four years.

    This also would help the top players develop more quickly…

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  • #859491
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    Malcolmx
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    I think that would help the game as well as a shot clock. It would prepare kids for the next level even better.

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  • #859600
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    Malcolmx
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    I think that would help the game as well as a shot clock. It would prepare kids for the next level even better.

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  • #859509
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    I never understood the argument for a high school shot clock. Yes, it helps prepare players for the college game, but I really don’t see how it helps develop players better. I see it doing the opposite to be honest. You’re more likely to see rushed shots on a given possession with a shot clock than you would without one. Games will be more up and down which is great for the fans but can turn into a slop fest very easily as well.

    I know some people point to how low the scores of some games are where they don’t use a shot clock, but I blame the defense for not applying enough pressure to get the ball back. There’s not a rule that says you have to wait for the offense to do something when playing defense.

    Honestly, I really think the style of AAU ball is the biggest problem with player development. Just think about how many times, teams have great athletes that either can’t shoot or have a low basketball IQ (i.e. not understanding spacing, defensive position). I recently read an article about how college coaches are having to teach their players basic things like dribbling. DRIBBLING!! Players don’t spend enough time on the basics of shooting a jump shot/free throw or making your off hand a strength when dribbling. All of this stems back to players thinking they need to play game after game after game instead of getting in the gym and getting shots up each day. The article I previously mentioned had a few quotes from Jim Larranaga. He talked about how Shane Larkin went from a primarily defensive player to a good shooter in just one summer simply because he worked at it.

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    • #859675
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      Lindsey
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       I do agree with you for the most part about it leading to rushed shots and undisciplined offense, but I think bringing in a 35 second clock at the hs school level would do wonders for doing away with overdribbling tendencies, less of a reliance on iso and more focus on off ball movement, and screen setting. America could get the best of both worlds with their athleticsm and some euroish offensive development at a youth level. 

       

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    • #859782
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      Lindsey
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       I do agree with you for the most part about it leading to rushed shots and undisciplined offense, but I think bringing in a 35 second clock at the hs school level would do wonders for doing away with overdribbling tendencies, less of a reliance on iso and more focus on off ball movement, and screen setting. America could get the best of both worlds with their athleticsm and some euroish offensive development at a youth level. 

       

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  • #859618
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    CameronCrazy11
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    I never understood the argument for a high school shot clock. Yes, it helps prepare players for the college game, but I really don’t see how it helps develop players better. I see it doing the opposite to be honest. You’re more likely to see rushed shots on a given possession with a shot clock than you would without one. Games will be more up and down which is great for the fans but can turn into a slop fest very easily as well.

    I know some people point to how low the scores of some games are where they don’t use a shot clock, but I blame the defense for not applying enough pressure to get the ball back. There’s not a rule that says you have to wait for the offense to do something when playing defense.

    Honestly, I really think the style of AAU ball is the biggest problem with player development. Just think about how many times, teams have great athletes that either can’t shoot or have a low basketball IQ (i.e. not understanding spacing, defensive position). I recently read an article about how college coaches are having to teach their players basic things like dribbling. DRIBBLING!! Players don’t spend enough time on the basics of shooting a jump shot/free throw or making your off hand a strength when dribbling. All of this stems back to players thinking they need to play game after game after game instead of getting in the gym and getting shots up each day. The article I previously mentioned had a few quotes from Jim Larranaga. He talked about how Shane Larkin went from a primarily defensive player to a good shooter in just one summer simply because he worked at it.

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  • #859511
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    CameronCrazy11
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    As far as halves versus quarters, I don’t really think one is better than the other. You could wonder why the NCAA has two halves instead of four quarters. The college level is the only level of American basketball, to my knowledge, that plays halves instead of quarters.

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  • #859620
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    As far as halves versus quarters, I don’t really think one is better than the other. You could wonder why the NCAA has two halves instead of four quarters. The college level is the only level of American basketball, to my knowledge, that plays halves instead of quarters.

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