[TRC1991Participant]

These aren’t really in order, just a running list of guys who never or have yet to make it + their best statistical season 

Monta Ellis

Pinnacle Season: 25.5 ppg, 5.3 apg, 4 rpg, 2.2 spg, 45/34/75 shooting clip

Josh Smith 

Pinnacle Season: 18.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.7 bpg, 1.4 spg, 46/36/63 shooting clip

Marcus Camby

Pinnacle Season: 12.8 ppg, 11.9 rpg, 3.3 bpg, 2.1 apg, 1.4 spg, 47/9/71 shooting clip 

Richard Jefferson

Pinnacle Season: 22.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 3.1 apg, 0.8 spg, 47/36/80 shooting clip

Mike Bibby

Pinnacle Season: 19.6 ppg, 6.8 apg, 4.2 rpg, 1.6 spg, 44/36/78 shooting clip

Stephen Jackson

Pinnacle Season: 20.7 ppg, 6.5 apg, 5.7 rpg, 1.6 spg, 41/34/83 shooting clip

Jamal Crawford

Pinnacle Season: 20.6 ppg, 5 apg, 2.6 rpg, 1 spg, 41/36/86 shooting clip

Al Harrington

Pinnacle Season: 20.7 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.2 spg, 45/36/80 shooting clip

Al Jefferson

Pinnacle Season: 23.1 ppg, 11 rpg, 1.7 bpg, 1.6 apg, 50/0/74 shooting clip

Jerome Kersey

Pinnacle Season: 19.2 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 50/24/70 shooting clip

Wayman Tisdale

Pinnacle Season: 22.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.4 apg, 0.7 bpg, 53/0/78 shooting clip

Isaiah "J.R." Rider

Pinnacle Season: 20.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 45/35/82 shooting clip

Rod Strickland

Pinnacle Season: 17.8 ppg, 10.5 apg, 5.3 rpg, 1.7 spg, 43/25/73 shooting clip

Ron Harper

Pinnacle Season: 22 ppg, 7 rpg, 6.9 apg, 2 spg, 1.3 bpg, 44/20/76 shooting clip

DeMarcus Cousins

Pinnacle Season: 22.7 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 2.9 apg, 1.5 spg, 50/0/73 shooting clip

Lamar Odom

Pinnacle Season: 17.2 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 5.2 apg, 1.6 bpg, 46/32/68 shooting clip

Cedric "Cornbread" Maxwell

Pinnacle Season: 19 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 2.9 apg, 1.2 spg, 58/NA/80 shooting clip

Arvydas Sabonis

Pinnacle Season: 16 ppg, 10 rpg, 3 apg, 1.3 bpg, 0.9 spg, 49/26/80 shooting clip

Jalen Rose

Pinnacle Season: 23.8 ppg, 5.3 apg, 4.1 rpg, 1.1 spg, 47/37/84 shooting clip

Goran Dragic

Pinnacle Season: 20.3 ppg, 5.9 apg, 3.2 rpg, 1.4 spg, 51/41/76 shooting clip

 

Honorable Mention

Ty Lawson

Sam Perkins

Brandon Jennings

Orlando Woolridge

Derek Harper

Toni Kukoc

Happy Hairston

Mike Conley

Brent Barry

Serge Ibaka

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Eddie Johnson should really be on there. 16 PPG and 4 RPG over a 17 season career. 3 seasons over 20 PPG, and 8 seasons over 17 PPG. Best year he averaged 22.9 PPG, 5 RPG, 3.3 APG while shooting 49.1% from the field and 87.1% from the line.

Kevin Martin deserves a shout out too. 5 straight seasons over 20 PPG (granted he missed a total of 88 games due to injuries during that span) and a career average of 17.9 PPG.

Best season 2008: 23.7 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 45.6 FG%, 40.2 3PT%, and 86.9 FT%.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

Eddie and Kevin both played on subpar teams and usually(there are exceptions) guys on bad teams who make it are either fan favourites or guys with flat out ridiculous numbers. I don’t honestly think any of the years Kevin Martin has been in the league he has deserved an All-Star appearance when he has been a very good shooter, and an above average all around scorer, but nothing else.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

Eddie and Kevin both played on subpar teams and usually(there are exceptions) guys on bad teams who make it are either fan favourites or guys with flat out ridiculous numbers. I don’t honestly think any of the years Kevin Martin has been in the league he has deserved an All-Star appearance when he has been a very good shooter, and an above average all around scorer, but nothing else.

[TRC1991Participant]

I typed in the wrong Eddie Johnson then…the one who played with the Hawks from 77-86 went to two all star games 

[TRC1991Participant]

I typed in the wrong Eddie Johnson then…the one who played with the Hawks from 77-86 went to two all star games 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Eddie Johnson should really be on there. 16 PPG and 4 RPG over a 17 season career. 3 seasons over 20 PPG, and 8 seasons over 17 PPG. Best year he averaged 22.9 PPG, 5 RPG, 3.3 APG while shooting 49.1% from the field and 87.1% from the line.

Kevin Martin deserves a shout out too. 5 straight seasons over 20 PPG (granted he missed a total of 88 games due to injuries during that span) and a career average of 17.9 PPG.

Best season 2008: 23.7 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 45.6 FG%, 40.2 3PT%, and 86.9 FT%.

[stealsgaloreParticipant]

 Impressive that Maxwell won Finals MVP and never even made an all-star game

[TRC1991Participant]

I wonder if Kawhi Leonard will share the same fate 

[TRC1991Participant]

I wonder if Kawhi Leonard will share the same fate 

[stealsgaloreParticipant]

 Impressive that Maxwell won Finals MVP and never even made an all-star game

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

Before reading this post the first two names that come to mind are:

  Mike Bibby and Richard Jefferson (2 Phoenix natives)  and then the third is of course Boogie

Then I think of all the guys that made it that shouldn’t have :

Memet Okur, Roy Hibbert (last year) ,Jamal Magloire, Jameer Nelson, Mo Williams 

Then once I read the post I think:

Jalen Rose and Al Harrington averaged 23ppg! How’d that happen?!?!?

[ConsiderableUpsideParticipant]

Jalen Rose had game! What do mean?

[ConsiderableUpsideParticipant]

Jalen Rose had game! What do mean?

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

Before reading this post the first two names that come to mind are:

  Mike Bibby and Richard Jefferson (2 Phoenix natives)  and then the third is of course Boogie

Then I think of all the guys that made it that shouldn’t have :

Memet Okur, Roy Hibbert (last year) ,Jamal Magloire, Jameer Nelson, Mo Williams 

Then once I read the post I think:

Jalen Rose and Al Harrington averaged 23ppg! How’d that happen?!?!?

[McDunkin]

Ron Harper deserved to go in just off the strength of his appearance on Kenan & Kel

http://youtu.be/shZp6UiL3yo

[McDunkin]

Ron Harper deserved to go in just off the strength of his appearance on Kenan & Kel

http://youtu.be/shZp6UiL3yo

[chall23Participant]

 Jason Richardson was good in his prime and never made an all star game.   he averaged like 23 ppg one season.  

[chall23Participant]

 Jason Richardson was good in his prime and never made an all star game.   he averaged like 23 ppg one season.  

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

after spending yrs as 1 of the most underrated and underappreciated players in the league..big al jefferson now has earned the respect of coaches around the nba..he should make it next season..if he stays healthy and continue to play like he did last season.

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Yes, he has to be there next time.  Charlotte added some players, so that should mean more wins, and if Jefferson is getting his 20-10 numbers on a team that is among the best in the east his stats will look even better than before.

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Yes, he has to be there next time.  Charlotte added some players, so that should mean more wins, and if Jefferson is getting his 20-10 numbers on a team that is among the best in the east his stats will look even better than before.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

after spending yrs as 1 of the most underrated and underappreciated players in the league..big al jefferson now has earned the respect of coaches around the nba..he should make it next season..if he stays healthy and continue to play like he did last season.

 

[JoeWolf1]

Yeah, I feel the fan voting throws off the All-Star Teams from time to time.

It’s kind of funny how many awards and All-NBA teams are among these guys without ever playing in an ASG. It’s pretty funny when you’re on an All-NBA team or voted the best at one specific thing and not on the 24 member All-Star Team.

Monta Ellis – 06-07 MIP

Josh Smith – All-Defensive 2nd team 10-11

Marcus Camby – 06-07 DPOTY 2X All-Defensive 1st team 2X All-Defensive 2nd team

Jamal Crawford – 2X 6th Man of the Year

Al Jefferson – All-NBA 3rd team last year

Rod Strickland – All-NBA 2nd team 96-97

Lamar Odom – 10-11 6th Man of the Year

Cedric Maxwell – 80-81 Finals MVP

Jalen Rose – 99-00 MIP

Goran Dragic – 13-14 MIP 13-14 All-NBA 3rd Team

I’d bet on Al Jefferson and Goran Dragic making the squad next season. Both were All-NBA 3rd teamers this past season, and were on teams a lot of people didn’t expect to finish with winning records. Now that the Suns and Hornets are established playoff contenders, I think each player has a good shot at making the team this year.

Paul George will leave a spot open in the East, and Roy Hibbert and Paul Milsap aren’t locks for returning IMO.

The West is more stacked with perennial All-Stars and young up and comers, but Kobe could opt out if he needs rest, and Love could be in the East.

 

 

[JoeWolf1]

Yeah, I feel the fan voting throws off the All-Star Teams from time to time.

It’s kind of funny how many awards and All-NBA teams are among these guys without ever playing in an ASG. It’s pretty funny when you’re on an All-NBA team or voted the best at one specific thing and not on the 24 member All-Star Team.

Monta Ellis – 06-07 MIP

Josh Smith – All-Defensive 2nd team 10-11

Marcus Camby – 06-07 DPOTY 2X All-Defensive 1st team 2X All-Defensive 2nd team

Jamal Crawford – 2X 6th Man of the Year

Al Jefferson – All-NBA 3rd team last year

Rod Strickland – All-NBA 2nd team 96-97

Lamar Odom – 10-11 6th Man of the Year

Cedric Maxwell – 80-81 Finals MVP

Jalen Rose – 99-00 MIP

Goran Dragic – 13-14 MIP 13-14 All-NBA 3rd Team

I’d bet on Al Jefferson and Goran Dragic making the squad next season. Both were All-NBA 3rd teamers this past season, and were on teams a lot of people didn’t expect to finish with winning records. Now that the Suns and Hornets are established playoff contenders, I think each player has a good shot at making the team this year.

Paul George will leave a spot open in the East, and Roy Hibbert and Paul Milsap aren’t locks for returning IMO.

The West is more stacked with perennial All-Stars and young up and comers, but Kobe could opt out if he needs rest, and Love could be in the East.

 

 

[Toronto16Participant]

 Dang, Al Jefferson was averaging 23 and 11 and didn’t make the all star team?

[phila9012Participant]

 Demarcus Cousins got 23 ppg 12 rpg, 3 apg, 1.3bpg and 1. 5spg last year and did not make it

[phila9012Participant]

 Demarcus Cousins got 23 ppg 12 rpg, 3 apg, 1.3bpg and 1. 5spg last year and did not make it

[Toronto16Participant]

 Dang, Al Jefferson was averaging 23 and 11 and didn’t make the all star team?

[ncballer]

 Ty Lawson is even underrated on underrated lists.

[TRC1991Participant]

Ty Lawson hasn’t had a single season that was better than any of the first 20 guys I listed

[TRC1991Participant]

Ty Lawson hasn’t had a single season that was better than any of the first 20 guys I listed

[ncballer]

That is a very subjective claim.  If you go off of pure statistics one could argue this past season hi numbers were better than: Harrington, Cornbread, Dragic and Bibby’s.  

 

[ncballer]

That is a very subjective claim.  If you go off of pure statistics one could argue this past season hi numbers were better than: Harrington, Cornbread, Dragic and Bibby’s.  

 

[ncballer]

 Ty Lawson is even underrated on underrated lists.

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

 I feel Rod Strickland is top 5 most underrated players in NBA history. The guy was a magician.

[XYRYXParticipant]

He was a Wizard before the Wizards were the Wizards lol

[XYRYXParticipant]

He was a Wizard before the Wizards were the Wizards lol

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

 I feel Rod Strickland is top 5 most underrated players in NBA history. The guy was a magician.

[XYRYXParticipant]

Damn pre injury Ron Harpers statline looks LeBron like – wow.

[XYRYXParticipant]

Damn pre injury Ron Harpers statline looks LeBron like – wow.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Damn pre injury Ron Harpers statline looks LeBron like – wow.
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To be fair that stat line is inaccurate. It’s probably based on his 1990 season where he averaged 22/7/6.9 in seven games for Cleveland but his season averages were 22.8 PPG, 5.2 APG and 5.9 RPG in 35 total games for Cleveland and the Clips.

Harper is often underrated and in his prime he wasn’t that far away from Clyde Drexler as a player but realistically he probably never deserved to make an All-Star game over the guys that were picked over him.

His three most All-Star worthy seasons were:

1987, his rookie season. Averaged 22.5/4.8/4.8. The one year he probably deserved the selection (over Jeff Malone), but the Cavs did finish 20 games under .500 and it is really difficult to make the all-star game as a rookie even if you are more deserving than some vets. Nonetheless he was absolutely robbed of Rookie of the Year.

1989, put up 18.6/5/5.3 on a 57 win Cleveland team, but three other Cavs had already made the All-Star team and the guards who made the game ahead of him (Jordan, Isiah Thomas and teammate Mark Price) all deserved it too

1994, averaged 20.1 PPG, 4.6 APG, 6.1 RPG but did so for a woeful 27 win Clippers team and the six guards who made the team over him were all very deserving as well; John Stockton, Clyde Drexler, Kevin Johnson, Gary Payton, Mitch Richmond and Latrell Sprewell.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Damn pre injury Ron Harpers statline looks LeBron like – wow.
————————————————————————————-

To be fair that stat line is inaccurate. It’s probably based on his 1990 season where he averaged 22/7/6.9 in seven games for Cleveland but his season averages were 22.8 PPG, 5.2 APG and 5.9 RPG in 35 total games for Cleveland and the Clips.

Harper is often underrated and in his prime he wasn’t that far away from Clyde Drexler as a player but realistically he probably never deserved to make an All-Star game over the guys that were picked over him.

His three most All-Star worthy seasons were:

1987, his rookie season. Averaged 22.5/4.8/4.8. The one year he probably deserved the selection (over Jeff Malone), but the Cavs did finish 20 games under .500 and it is really difficult to make the all-star game as a rookie even if you are more deserving than some vets. Nonetheless he was absolutely robbed of Rookie of the Year.

1989, put up 18.6/5/5.3 on a 57 win Cleveland team, but three other Cavs had already made the All-Star team and the guards who made the game ahead of him (Jordan, Isiah Thomas and teammate Mark Price) all deserved it too

1994, averaged 20.1 PPG, 4.6 APG, 6.1 RPG but did so for a woeful 27 win Clippers team and the six guards who made the team over him were all very deserving as well; John Stockton, Clyde Drexler, Kevin Johnson, Gary Payton, Mitch Richmond and Latrell Sprewell.

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

 The fact that some of these guys made all nba teams while being left off allstar teams in the same seasons is comedy & it shows just how much stock you should put into all star game appearances. Like Joe Wolf mentioned earlier the fan voting can truly skew final allstar spots.

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

 The fact that some of these guys made all nba teams while being left off allstar teams in the same seasons is comedy & it shows just how much stock you should put into all star game appearances. Like Joe Wolf mentioned earlier the fan voting can truly skew final allstar spots.

[HitsterParticipant]

Every good thread. Paul Millsap’s All Star appearance was well deserved but personally I felt Al Jefferson should have been in.

With regards to other names mentioned, I agree with them all and no one else obvious comes to mind. I’d assume that DMC will make All Star appearances sooner rather than later. Kawhi Leonard must be due recognition especially if the Spurs remain successful. Sabonis was 31 when he came to the NBA and was in the powerhouse C era, if he’d have come over earlier, I’m sure he’d have been a multiple All Star.

I’d be interested to know what these guys’ stats were like at the time of the All Star voting as some guys can have a hot 2nd half of the season etc.

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

Every good thread. Paul Millsap’s All Star appearance was well deserved but personally I felt Al Jefferson should have been in.

With regards to other names mentioned, I agree with them all and no one else obvious comes to mind. I’d assume that DMC will make All Star appearances sooner rather than later. Kawhi Leonard must be due recognition especially if the Spurs remain successful. Sabonis was 31 when he came to the NBA and was in the powerhouse C era, if he’d have come over earlier, I’m sure he’d have been a multiple All Star.

I’d be interested to know what these guys’ stats were like at the time of the All Star voting as some guys can have a hot 2nd half of the season etc.

 

 

[ConsiderableUpsideParticipant]

 Lots of really good gaurds with no or very few all-star appearances.  Rod Strickland is a name that sticks out to me.  Very underrated.

Bibby is an interesting player.  Does anyone else remember his Grizzley days when he was more of a passer?  His last season there he averaged almost 9 assists per game.  Sacremento Kings of the early 2000’s were some of my all-time favorite squads.  Naturally I was sad to see White Chocolate get traded for Bibby, but I’m an Arizona fan so I obviously wasn’t too upset with Mike Bibby running the point.  The trade ended up being a good one, We all know who should have won the series against LA! Lol…Back to my earlier point I was always a little disappointed that Bibby’s assist production was so superb his first few years getting better each season, but as soon as he left for Sac he never seemed to be the same player.  Not complaining whatsoever, very good scoring pg with great clutch shooting ability, but he seemed to sort of settle into a role as a scorer with the Kings and lose his playmaking ability.  Very effective player, but I think if he had stayed healthy and not gained weight, he could have been a lot better.  I suppose losing explosiveness could have limited his driving ability which limit his assist oppurtunities.

Sorry for babbling, but this is something that frustrated me for years with this guy.  Diehard Kings fan here.

[ConsiderableUpsideParticipant]

 Lots of really good gaurds with no or very few all-star appearances.  Rod Strickland is a name that sticks out to me.  Very underrated.

Bibby is an interesting player.  Does anyone else remember his Grizzley days when he was more of a passer?  His last season there he averaged almost 9 assists per game.  Sacremento Kings of the early 2000’s were some of my all-time favorite squads.  Naturally I was sad to see White Chocolate get traded for Bibby, but I’m an Arizona fan so I obviously wasn’t too upset with Mike Bibby running the point.  The trade ended up being a good one, We all know who should have won the series against LA! Lol…Back to my earlier point I was always a little disappointed that Bibby’s assist production was so superb his first few years getting better each season, but as soon as he left for Sac he never seemed to be the same player.  Not complaining whatsoever, very good scoring pg with great clutch shooting ability, but he seemed to sort of settle into a role as a scorer with the Kings and lose his playmaking ability.  Very effective player, but I think if he had stayed healthy and not gained weight, he could have been a lot better.  I suppose losing explosiveness could have limited his driving ability which limit his assist oppurtunities.

Sorry for babbling, but this is something that frustrated me for years with this guy.  Diehard Kings fan here.

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Bibby gets a pass for his assists going down with the Kings, and that is because Vlade Divac was so good at passing the ball and Webber was one of the better passers from power forward too.  So Bibby able to hit open outside shots at a much better percentage than J Williams did was a big improvement for the Kings.

Bibby should also get credit for getting so many assists with Vancouver, they were a team in turmoil and with few offensive options.

Lots of point guards missed out on All-Star games, and that is because there were many years when players like Stockton and Payton had to be there, and the fans were voting in someone like Kidd too.

 

 

[ConsiderableUpsideParticipant]

 Yeah, of course…but he had quite a few prime years left after Webber and Vlade were gone.  My question is why he adopted the role of a scorer for the bulk of his career, when his approach to the game was clearly different earlier in his career.  5 assists in around 38 minutes of action is a typical Mike Bibby stat line in his prime (post Webber & company).  In his 2nd and 3rd season in the league he averaged over 8 apg.  That’s a little bit mysterious if you ask me.

[ConsiderableUpsideParticipant]

 Yeah, of course…but he had quite a few prime years left after Webber and Vlade were gone.  My question is why he adopted the role of a scorer for the bulk of his career, when his approach to the game was clearly different earlier in his career.  5 assists in around 38 minutes of action is a typical Mike Bibby stat line in his prime (post Webber & company).  In his 2nd and 3rd season in the league he averaged over 8 apg.  That’s a little bit mysterious if you ask me.

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Bibby gets a pass for his assists going down with the Kings, and that is because Vlade Divac was so good at passing the ball and Webber was one of the better passers from power forward too.  So Bibby able to hit open outside shots at a much better percentage than J Williams did was a big improvement for the Kings.

Bibby should also get credit for getting so many assists with Vancouver, they were a team in turmoil and with few offensive options.

Lots of point guards missed out on All-Star games, and that is because there were many years when players like Stockton and Payton had to be there, and the fans were voting in someone like Kidd too.

 

 

[CU.LIONSParticipant]

Best player not to make an All-star game? Back in my day it was Vinny "the microwave" Johnson. Didn’t start for the Pistons (Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars) and probably didn’t put up All-star numbers. But absolutely killed big-time players in big-time moments during the Pistons Championship runs.

[CU.LIONSParticipant]

Best player not to make an All-star game? Back in my day it was Vinny "the microwave" Johnson. Didn’t start for the Pistons (Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars) and probably didn’t put up All-star numbers. But absolutely killed big-time players in big-time moments during the Pistons Championship runs.

[PointForward23Participant]

 Random player i thought of:

Corey Maggette

Peak season: 22 6 3 (10 free throws a game)

[PointForward23Participant]

 Random player i thought of:

Corey Maggette

Peak season: 22 6 3 (10 free throws a game)

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