[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

I know most people outside of the philly fans believe this franchise is a dysfunctional and this franchise have no direction. I have to disagree with those people that’s taking that side of what the 76ers are doing. I fell this is the final year of the tanking era of the 76ers. They have a bunch of young talent that’s projected to be stars, a respected head coach, and tons of first round picks in the near future.

People knock the Jahlil Okafor pick due to the 76ers already having 2 centers on the roster and the assumption that the league is going "smaller". Philladelphia picked the best player available and the best asset available at the number 3 pick. The 76ers could have a great core if everything come together in having Jahlil Okafor (who everyone believe the best post player to come out in the past 2 decades), Joel Embiid (who was compared to the likes of Hakeem Olajuwon entering the draft), Nerlens Noel (defensive superstar), Dario Saric (European superstar that most scouts believed to be a top 5 pick in last year loaded draft if he decided to come over right away), and Nik Stauskas (a knock down shooter that was the number 8 pick next year). To me that’s a great core as of right now.Joel Embiid can be swapped for some other players if he don’t recover from his injuries and he probably won’t be part of their core.

Next years draft can be key for the 76ers future in which Philladelphia have potentially 4 picks in the first round. They would have the the Miami Heat and Oklahoma City Thunder 1st round picks if they both make the playoffs anf they would have the LA Lakers pick if it’s not in the top 3 or out of the lottery. The 6ers most likely will be one of the worse teams in the league next year and the Lakers should also be one of the worse teams in the league if they don’t get the big free agents. They (Philladelphia) is in position to get Ben Simmons and another top talent in next year draft. 

They can have a potential line up of in the near future of…..

• PG: Jamal Murray (2016 draft)
• SG: Nik Stauskas 
• SF: Ben Simmons (2016 draft) 
• PF: Nerlens Noel
• C  : Jahlil Okafor 
• Bench of: Dario Saric 

That’s a great core of players to build off and they will have cap space still, start getting veteran pieces, and get better players to build around. They would probably start to try to win games and be competitive in the 2016-17 NBA season. 

To everyone I’m a Miami Heat fan, not a Philladelphia 76ers fan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[holefillers1Participant]

 I think the biggest part of this trade is the Sixers having the option to swap first rounders in the next two drafts.  The Kings could win the lottery the next two years and their pick will become the Sixers.

[holefillers1Participant]

 I think the biggest part of this trade is the Sixers having the option to swap first rounders in the next two drafts.  The Kings could win the lottery the next two years and their pick will become the Sixers.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

Philly has been in position to get the #1 pick for 2 years now, still hasn’t worked. I agree the Sixers have tipped their hat as to when they plan on being good, but it is still a huge assumption to just bank on Ben Simmons going to Philadelphia almost exactly a year until the draft. It looks like they are prepared to go into the 2017 offseason, when the cap will hit 105-110, with room for multiple max contracts, as well as 4 top 5 selections, and a boatload of picks, especially the juicy new ones they got from Sac (those are gonna be valuable). Essentially, they would be able to trade for almost anyone they want, and then sign whoever would want to join them. This is a lot easier said than done, but I think a team with a competent GM, a relatively big market, boatloads of capspace and assets out the a$$ is very appealing to players, although maybe not so much right now.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

Philly has been in position to get the #1 pick for 2 years now, still hasn’t worked. I agree the Sixers have tipped their hat as to when they plan on being good, but it is still a huge assumption to just bank on Ben Simmons going to Philadelphia almost exactly a year until the draft. It looks like they are prepared to go into the 2017 offseason, when the cap will hit 105-110, with room for multiple max contracts, as well as 4 top 5 selections, and a boatload of picks, especially the juicy new ones they got from Sac (those are gonna be valuable). Essentially, they would be able to trade for almost anyone they want, and then sign whoever would want to join them. This is a lot easier said than done, but I think a team with a competent GM, a relatively big market, boatloads of capspace and assets out the a$$ is very appealing to players, although maybe not so much right now.

[holefillers1Participant]

 Correct.  And they got all this for two second round picks wich they got for nothing.  

[holefillers1Participant]

 Correct.  And they got all this for two second round picks wich they got for nothing.  

[goddagParticipant]

it was a great trade for Philly getting those three players for just about nothing.

But I don’t believe a couple of things what raycasey wrote. Okafor being the best post player coming out in the last 2 decades? I don’t think he’s better than, Howard, A Davis, Noah, D Jordan, Horford , and Cousins. And a lot of experts don’t think he’s even the best center in this last draft, and list Towns with better overall skills.
And if Joel Embiid is hurt they can trade him for assets. Who’s going to want to give anyone for Embiid if he’s hurt and can’t play? Embiid is a huge question mark right now if he has to sit out another year because his foot hasn’t healed right. I can’t imagine anyone giving up anyone of any value to get him.

[goddagParticipant]

it was a great trade for Philly getting those three players for just about nothing.

But I don’t believe a couple of things what raycasey wrote. Okafor being the best post player coming out in the last 2 decades? I don’t think he’s better than, Howard, A Davis, Noah, D Jordan, Horford , and Cousins. And a lot of experts don’t think he’s even the best center in this last draft, and list Towns with better overall skills.
And if Joel Embiid is hurt they can trade him for assets. Who’s going to want to give anyone for Embiid if he’s hurt and can’t play? Embiid is a huge question mark right now if he has to sit out another year because his foot hasn’t healed right. I can’t imagine anyone giving up anyone of any value to get him.

[wonzi_bellsParticipant]

He’s talking about Okafor as a post player, as in his post repertoire and profile, which by accounts to me, he is the best post player to come out of the draft since Tim Duncan in 1997. Strictly talking about post moves and post polish and nothing more.

[wonzi_bellsParticipant]

He’s talking about Okafor as a post player, as in his post repertoire and profile, which by accounts to me, he is the best post player to come out of the draft since Tim Duncan in 1997. Strictly talking about post moves and post polish and nothing more.

[Anton123Participant]

I think the Sixers absolutely have to make the playoffs in the 2016-2017 and show their players that the team is built to be a championship contender. In 2017 Noel’s rookie contract will have expired and Embiid, Stauskas and Jerami Grant will have one year left. From this season and on the Sixers need to consistently improve as a team and keep the players happy or they are at risk of losing all these young guys.

They will also need to figure out their big man situation, sure Embiid, Okafor, Noel and Saric can probably play on one team and be effective but the question is whether they will want to or would rather go and play starter minutes on another team.

The Sixers right now might be the most interesting franchise to keep track of in the whole NBA. I think their goal should be to improve to about a 25-57 winning team this year and team with 38-42 wins in 2016-2017. Them getting the top or even top 2 pick is highly unlikely, so they shouldn’t be counting on getting Simmons to fill that SF spot.

[Anton123Participant]

I think the Sixers absolutely have to make the playoffs in the 2016-2017 and show their players that the team is built to be a championship contender. In 2017 Noel’s rookie contract will have expired and Embiid, Stauskas and Jerami Grant will have one year left. From this season and on the Sixers need to consistently improve as a team and keep the players happy or they are at risk of losing all these young guys.

They will also need to figure out their big man situation, sure Embiid, Okafor, Noel and Saric can probably play on one team and be effective but the question is whether they will want to or would rather go and play starter minutes on another team.

The Sixers right now might be the most interesting franchise to keep track of in the whole NBA. I think their goal should be to improve to about a 25-57 winning team this year and team with 38-42 wins in 2016-2017. Them getting the top or even top 2 pick is highly unlikely, so they shouldn’t be counting on getting Simmons to fill that SF spot.

[thetrademachineryParticipant]

imagine if only they could sign Westbrook through free agency

[thetrademachineryParticipant]

imagine if only they could sign Westbrook through free agency

[goddagParticipant]

I can’t imagine Westbrook wanting to go there. Why? First they have to proof something.

[goddagParticipant]

I can’t imagine Westbrook wanting to go there. Why? First they have to proof something.

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 I don’t understand why everyone seem sto think Philly made such a good trade. It’s mostly based on hope on fantasy, let’s go to the facts.

The 2018 pick is protected. I couldn’t find out for how long or what it ends up being, but the 76ers either get it in 2018 as a later pick or they eventually get a decent pick in the far future. Not saying it doesn’t have value as an asset but there’s no way to quantify it now, it may end up extremely unvaluable just like most of the celtics picks they tried to trade to move in this past draft. 

The Rights to swap picks in 2016 & 2017. The 76ers right now are expected to be weaker than the Kings both years, and the Kings have issues but are actually trying to win now. Unless something drastic happens (which could happen to any team) they should finish in the 8-15 range while the 76ers will probably finish in the bottom 3. Could the kings pick win the lottery of course but it’s a ridiculously low chance. In actuality the 76ers increase their chances of a top 3 pick from like 50% to like 53% and the number 1 pick from like 20% to 20.5%. In swapping pick sounds better than the actuality of it. Even in the rare chance the picks swap, the 76ers will still hand the Kings a top tier pick as well.

Nick Stauskas. Most people had him as a mid 1st rounder last year whom the Kings surprised people by taking 8th. There’s some upside, but right now he’s a fringe rotation player making top-8 lottery pick money. Maybe he’s the next Korver, or maybe he’s the next Luke Jackson (who I loved out of Oregon by the way), Adam Morrison, etc. Korver was a good rotational player from day 1, so he had an advantage. The Kings also didn’t just give Stauskas away he was the price of getting a team to take two players they desperately wanted to get rid of. 

All in all, I think it was good trade for both teams. Now the Kings could waste it by using their cap space on Rondo, but the 76ers could waste those draft picks as well. I’m just confused by everyone thinking it was such a fleece trade. 

 

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

1. Doesn’t matter how protected the pick is (I believe its Top 10) because they literally gave up NOTHING for it.

2. 76ers are projected to be worse? Kings were downright terrible last year, and Philly has all the assets and cap space to at least be a top 20 team within the next two years. Kings have the record for most consecutive lottery appearances, I think it is safe to say they are likely to be in the lottery again, and again. If the Kings continue to play poorly, the Sixers are encouraged to play well, because they can get a high pick w/o tanking.

3. Stauskas was still a Top 8 pick LAST YEAR. Regardless of how he plays in his rookie year, you don’t just give up players like that, especially one’s you drafted in the top ten LAST YEAR. Look at Tobias Harris, or Khris Middleton, can’t really think of any other examples because NO ONE BESIDES THE KINGS IS STUPID ENOUGH TO DO SUCH A THING

Overall, its not like the Kings are giving away all these assets for a superstar. They are trading away last year’s #8 and 3 future picks to sign Rajon Rondo, who might just be the worst fit in a George Karl system. Moreso, they were trying to sign Rondo and Monta. Hmmm…..you would think that if they didn’t play well together at all this year, they likely won’t play well together. The Kings simply do not know how to run a basketball team, and while the Lakers and Knicks might have the same issue, at least there in the two biggest markets. I don’t understand what player would want to go to the Kings. You’d have to way overpay every single free agent, because NO ONE WANTS TO GO THERE

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 Yes in the Western Conference the Kings haven’t made the Playoffs in a long time, but they are better than the 76ers currently. Not even really that close. Now The Kings future might not be as bright but that holds little weight over the next two years. 

1. The Kings did give up something to get it. They gave up cap space and roster flexibility. Now could they cut them? Yes but dead cap space is the worst use of cap space possible. Also the protection does matter. We’ve seen that 1st round picks lose value exponetionally just over a couple of spaces. Also it means that if the King are terrible like you’re suggesting they will be, The 76ers won’t get the pick. I don’t know how you feel like that does not matter. 

2. The 76ers don’t even have a roster right now, how can they be a top-20 team in the next years. We don’t know how good any of their players really are because they’ve played on a team that wasn’t trying to win. I also mentioned that the Kings will probably be in the 8-15 range. I never said they were making it out of the lottery, but as of right now they project to be a better lottery team than the 76ers. Not really something to brag about but something that makes swapping 1st round picks useless.

3. What about Thomas Robinson? Or did you leave that name out cause he didn’t fit your argument. Also Middleton was a 2nd round pick, and a complete different situation. If you want to mention all draft picks that have been traded within the first year, I’m pretty sure way more have failed to become good players than those that have. I also said that Stauskas has upside but he’s far from a slam dunk. Your draft position becomes almost irrelevant the the next year except to Fans. But you’re right most teams don’t trade them because they hope they work out. Maybe the Kings felt he was a sunk cost and left it at that. You never know. 

Also there not trading 3 future picks that’s just incorrectly portraying the situation to make it sound better. Which I explained the actuality of it my first post. The 76ers also don’t have players lined up knocking at the door trying to play there either. I never said the Kings weren’t terribly managed because they are. It’s still debatable on whether Philly isn’t terribly managed either.

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 Yes in the Western Conference the Kings haven’t made the Playoffs in a long time, but they are better than the 76ers currently. Not even really that close. Now The Kings future might not be as bright but that holds little weight over the next two years. 

1. The Kings did give up something to get it. They gave up cap space and roster flexibility. Now could they cut them? Yes but dead cap space is the worst use of cap space possible. Also the protection does matter. We’ve seen that 1st round picks lose value exponetionally just over a couple of spaces. Also it means that if the King are terrible like you’re suggesting they will be, The 76ers won’t get the pick. I don’t know how you feel like that does not matter. 

2. The 76ers don’t even have a roster right now, how can they be a top-20 team in the next years. We don’t know how good any of their players really are because they’ve played on a team that wasn’t trying to win. I also mentioned that the Kings will probably be in the 8-15 range. I never said they were making it out of the lottery, but as of right now they project to be a better lottery team than the 76ers. Not really something to brag about but something that makes swapping 1st round picks useless.

3. What about Thomas Robinson? Or did you leave that name out cause he didn’t fit your argument. Also Middleton was a 2nd round pick, and a complete different situation. If you want to mention all draft picks that have been traded within the first year, I’m pretty sure way more have failed to become good players than those that have. I also said that Stauskas has upside but he’s far from a slam dunk. Your draft position becomes almost irrelevant the the next year except to Fans. But you’re right most teams don’t trade them because they hope they work out. Maybe the Kings felt he was a sunk cost and left it at that. You never know. 

Also there not trading 3 future picks that’s just incorrectly portraying the situation to make it sound better. Which I explained the actuality of it my first post. The 76ers also don’t have players lined up knocking at the door trying to play there either. I never said the Kings weren’t terribly managed because they are. It’s still debatable on whether Philly isn’t terribly managed either.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

1. Doesn’t matter how protected the pick is (I believe its Top 10) because they literally gave up NOTHING for it.

2. 76ers are projected to be worse? Kings were downright terrible last year, and Philly has all the assets and cap space to at least be a top 20 team within the next two years. Kings have the record for most consecutive lottery appearances, I think it is safe to say they are likely to be in the lottery again, and again. If the Kings continue to play poorly, the Sixers are encouraged to play well, because they can get a high pick w/o tanking.

3. Stauskas was still a Top 8 pick LAST YEAR. Regardless of how he plays in his rookie year, you don’t just give up players like that, especially one’s you drafted in the top ten LAST YEAR. Look at Tobias Harris, or Khris Middleton, can’t really think of any other examples because NO ONE BESIDES THE KINGS IS STUPID ENOUGH TO DO SUCH A THING

Overall, its not like the Kings are giving away all these assets for a superstar. They are trading away last year’s #8 and 3 future picks to sign Rajon Rondo, who might just be the worst fit in a George Karl system. Moreso, they were trying to sign Rondo and Monta. Hmmm…..you would think that if they didn’t play well together at all this year, they likely won’t play well together. The Kings simply do not know how to run a basketball team, and while the Lakers and Knicks might have the same issue, at least there in the two biggest markets. I don’t understand what player would want to go to the Kings. You’d have to way overpay every single free agent, because NO ONE WANTS TO GO THERE

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 I don’t understand why everyone seem sto think Philly made such a good trade. It’s mostly based on hope on fantasy, let’s go to the facts.

The 2018 pick is protected. I couldn’t find out for how long or what it ends up being, but the 76ers either get it in 2018 as a later pick or they eventually get a decent pick in the far future. Not saying it doesn’t have value as an asset but there’s no way to quantify it now, it may end up extremely unvaluable just like most of the celtics picks they tried to trade to move in this past draft. 

The Rights to swap picks in 2016 & 2017. The 76ers right now are expected to be weaker than the Kings both years, and the Kings have issues but are actually trying to win now. Unless something drastic happens (which could happen to any team) they should finish in the 8-15 range while the 76ers will probably finish in the bottom 3. Could the kings pick win the lottery of course but it’s a ridiculously low chance. In actuality the 76ers increase their chances of a top 3 pick from like 50% to like 53% and the number 1 pick from like 20% to 20.5%. In swapping pick sounds better than the actuality of it. Even in the rare chance the picks swap, the 76ers will still hand the Kings a top tier pick as well.

Nick Stauskas. Most people had him as a mid 1st rounder last year whom the Kings surprised people by taking 8th. There’s some upside, but right now he’s a fringe rotation player making top-8 lottery pick money. Maybe he’s the next Korver, or maybe he’s the next Luke Jackson (who I loved out of Oregon by the way), Adam Morrison, etc. Korver was a good rotational player from day 1, so he had an advantage. The Kings also didn’t just give Stauskas away he was the price of getting a team to take two players they desperately wanted to get rid of. 

All in all, I think it was good trade for both teams. Now the Kings could waste it by using their cap space on Rondo, but the 76ers could waste those draft picks as well. I’m just confused by everyone thinking it was such a fleece trade. 

 

[VRod305Participant]

We have up nothing!!!! It could be the 13th overall pick in 2018 and no pick swaps. It won’t be though. The Kings are probably one of the 7 worst teams. Were getting somewhere between a 4-12 percent better chance to win the lottery for two years. Then we get Stauskas. He was a top-10 pick. You don’t give that up that quickly.

We gave up nothing. You sound like the Hinkie opponents.

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 That’s only if you’re better than the Kings, which for next year you’re not. So in 2016 you have a zero percent increase because you will be worst than the Kings. Now in 2017 if you’re better than the Kings (very debatable) you enjoy a slight increase, but not a great chance because the Kings under George Karl will not be a bottom-5 team.

And it could also be pick 18th in 2018 or etc. You don’t know, but based on your own opinion on how weak the Kings will be that would also mean that Philly does NOT get the pick. I don’t see how you don’t understand that.

And you did give up something cap space and roster space. Those are important commodities to teams that are actually trying to win. I’m not a Hinkie opponent. I actually like that he is challenging the system to the extreme.

Philly fans do not understand that ASSETS today are worth more than assets in the future due to uncertainty. That’s why it always seem like teams win trades when they can say it’s for the future. But in this case Philly didn’t give up much, but didn’t really get much either. 

[Ebown5Participant]

The Sixers don’t have to be better than the Kings to swap picks. They just need to have a worse pick.

So, for example, if next year the Sixers win 20 games and the Kings win 30, so the Sixers get the 3rd lottery position and the Kings get the 8th, then the Kings jump up into the top 3 with lottery luck, the Sixers get their pick. We are just adding ping pong balls that increase our chances.

It isn’t very likely to happen, but the probability is a lot higher than zero, and we gave up nothing for it. Cap space is virtually irrelevant to the Sixers because we are full of it, and have to get to the salary floor anyway. Roster spots are a non issue as well because we have plenty of them and will just cut them if we want to use the spots for other people.

The SAME asset today may be worth more than the same asset in the future, but a real asset in the future is worth more than a fictitious one today. Plus real assets in the future can be traded for real assets in the present.

We don’t have to wait until 2018 for example to reap the benefit of a 2018 pick because it could be traded to move up in the draft next year, or in a package for a good player.

We just received real assets in the future, along with some purely potential assets, in exchange for nothing of current value.

The only value that the current assets had was their oportunity cost of trading them for something better, but we just got great value for them.

We get Stauskus, and a protected first round pick, and a few more percentage points of lottery potential in 2016, and, if their 2016 pick goes to Chicago, then we get the chance to get the Kings pick if we are better than them in 2017. May be the case, and may not be the case, but again…free.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 I like good basketball talk. 

I think my argument has gotten misconstrued from the initial point. I didn’t say the pick swap had no value, it’s actually a good risk that cost you nothing, just that it’s being overvalued in this case. More than likely it doesn’t happen, but let’s say your hypothetical situation did happen. The thing is, if it does the worst pick the Kings could end up with is 6th and it could be higher. So they finish with the 8th best record and end up with the 6th pick, that’s not a bad proposition. They would give Philly an extra 3% chance of getting picks 1 or 2 and 4% chance at getting pick 3, but on the flipside they get a higher chance overall at getting picks 2-6 (because one would go to Philly no matter the other results).  That’s why I said it sounded better in theory then actuality. 

I’m confused about how Philly fans are saying cap space doesn’t matter. All the moves they have made is the result of having it. You can’t say that it is irrelevant. Right now the 76er’s have dead cap space of about $25million (if they cut Thompson and Landry) on a $67million cap. That makes it difficult for Philly to absorb another high contract and get an easy pick so it does have value even to the 76ers.

The Kings also got a real asset, and they got it now in cap space. Just because Philly does not value it, and even if the Kings misuse it does not mean trading to get cap space is not an asset. 

I also never said that the trade wasn’t worthwhile for Philly, just that it’s not as great as people are portraying on the surface. It’s no Hershel Walker for 3 Super Bowls. Philly got about the same value that teams have generally received in cap dumps. 

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 I like good basketball talk. 

I think my argument has gotten misconstrued from the initial point. I didn’t say the pick swap had no value, it’s actually a good risk that cost you nothing, just that it’s being overvalued in this case. More than likely it doesn’t happen, but let’s say your hypothetical situation did happen. The thing is, if it does the worst pick the Kings could end up with is 6th and it could be higher. So they finish with the 8th best record and end up with the 6th pick, that’s not a bad proposition. They would give Philly an extra 3% chance of getting picks 1 or 2 and 4% chance at getting pick 3, but on the flipside they get a higher chance overall at getting picks 2-6 (because one would go to Philly no matter the other results).  That’s why I said it sounded better in theory then actuality. 

I’m confused about how Philly fans are saying cap space doesn’t matter. All the moves they have made is the result of having it. You can’t say that it is irrelevant. Right now the 76er’s have dead cap space of about $25million (if they cut Thompson and Landry) on a $67million cap. That makes it difficult for Philly to absorb another high contract and get an easy pick so it does have value even to the 76ers.

The Kings also got a real asset, and they got it now in cap space. Just because Philly does not value it, and even if the Kings misuse it does not mean trading to get cap space is not an asset. 

I also never said that the trade wasn’t worthwhile for Philly, just that it’s not as great as people are portraying on the surface. It’s no Hershel Walker for 3 Super Bowls. Philly got about the same value that teams have generally received in cap dumps. 

[Ebown5Participant]

The Sixers don’t have to be better than the Kings to swap picks. They just need to have a worse pick.

So, for example, if next year the Sixers win 20 games and the Kings win 30, so the Sixers get the 3rd lottery position and the Kings get the 8th, then the Kings jump up into the top 3 with lottery luck, the Sixers get their pick. We are just adding ping pong balls that increase our chances.

It isn’t very likely to happen, but the probability is a lot higher than zero, and we gave up nothing for it. Cap space is virtually irrelevant to the Sixers because we are full of it, and have to get to the salary floor anyway. Roster spots are a non issue as well because we have plenty of them and will just cut them if we want to use the spots for other people.

The SAME asset today may be worth more than the same asset in the future, but a real asset in the future is worth more than a fictitious one today. Plus real assets in the future can be traded for real assets in the present.

We don’t have to wait until 2018 for example to reap the benefit of a 2018 pick because it could be traded to move up in the draft next year, or in a package for a good player.

We just received real assets in the future, along with some purely potential assets, in exchange for nothing of current value.

The only value that the current assets had was their oportunity cost of trading them for something better, but we just got great value for them.

We get Stauskus, and a protected first round pick, and a few more percentage points of lottery potential in 2016, and, if their 2016 pick goes to Chicago, then we get the chance to get the Kings pick if we are better than them in 2017. May be the case, and may not be the case, but again…free.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 That’s only if you’re better than the Kings, which for next year you’re not. So in 2016 you have a zero percent increase because you will be worst than the Kings. Now in 2017 if you’re better than the Kings (very debatable) you enjoy a slight increase, but not a great chance because the Kings under George Karl will not be a bottom-5 team.

And it could also be pick 18th in 2018 or etc. You don’t know, but based on your own opinion on how weak the Kings will be that would also mean that Philly does NOT get the pick. I don’t see how you don’t understand that.

And you did give up something cap space and roster space. Those are important commodities to teams that are actually trying to win. I’m not a Hinkie opponent. I actually like that he is challenging the system to the extreme.

Philly fans do not understand that ASSETS today are worth more than assets in the future due to uncertainty. That’s why it always seem like teams win trades when they can say it’s for the future. But in this case Philly didn’t give up much, but didn’t really get much either. 

[VRod305Participant]

We have up nothing!!!! It could be the 13th overall pick in 2018 and no pick swaps. It won’t be though. The Kings are probably one of the 7 worst teams. Were getting somewhere between a 4-12 percent better chance to win the lottery for two years. Then we get Stauskas. He was a top-10 pick. You don’t give that up that quickly.

We gave up nothing. You sound like the Hinkie opponents.

[HitsterParticipant]

 The 76ers have a load of cap space and need to get up to a minimum figure in due course so can assume the salary dump. They get Nick Stauskas who can possibly fill their SG hole and a couple more forwards to keep the dozen or so frontcourters they have company. Seriously though they will probably buy out Thompson and Landry as both would be decent FA’s for contenders on the right deal.

I’m disapponted that Philly haven’t really looked to sign any FA’s yet, the top guys want to be on contenders and I doubt Hinkie would want to overpay for someone who would not improve the team. But with an exciting young frontcourt and a lot of upside they might be an interesting option for a player looking for a challenge and they do have the attraction of being able to offer someone the chance to be the main ball carrier/creator.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 The 76ers have a load of cap space and need to get up to a minimum figure in due course so can assume the salary dump. They get Nick Stauskas who can possibly fill their SG hole and a couple more forwards to keep the dozen or so frontcourters they have company. Seriously though they will probably buy out Thompson and Landry as both would be decent FA’s for contenders on the right deal.

I’m disapponted that Philly haven’t really looked to sign any FA’s yet, the top guys want to be on contenders and I doubt Hinkie would want to overpay for someone who would not improve the team. But with an exciting young frontcourt and a lot of upside they might be an interesting option for a player looking for a challenge and they do have the attraction of being able to offer someone the chance to be the main ball carrier/creator.

 

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