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  • #57629
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    strobox88
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    Anyone think a potential lawsuit could be in order?  The stanchion isn’t exactly where it should have been.
     

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  • #941863
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    ph90702

    STOP IT!!!  I’ve been to many UNLV games and have watched a lot of summer league games as well, and there has never been an injury like this before.  Also, the Thomas & Mack is 30 years old.

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  • #941996
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    STOP IT!!!  I’ve been to many UNLV games and have watched a lot of summer league games as well, and there has never been an injury like this before.  Also, the Thomas & Mack is 30 years old.

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  • #941865
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    Also, he was trying to use the stanchion to stop his forward momentum.  He stuck his leg out, and it flukishly broke. That has nothing to do with the stanchion distance.

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    • #941873
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      You don’t think an extra 1-2 feet of distance could have slowed his momentum enough to avoid the injury?  I certainly think it could have.

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      • #941895
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        ph90702

         Not at all.  The fact that he landed with his leg bent inward caused it to break.  It had nothing to do with the stanchion.

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      • #942027
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        ph90702

         Not at all.  The fact that he landed with his leg bent inward caused it to break.  It had nothing to do with the stanchion.

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    • #942006
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      strobox88
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      You don’t think an extra 1-2 feet of distance could have slowed his momentum enough to avoid the injury?  I certainly think it could have.

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  • #941998
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    ph90702

    Also, he was trying to use the stanchion to stop his forward momentum.  He stuck his leg out, and it flukishly broke. That has nothing to do with the stanchion distance.

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  • #941871
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     Unless I am mistaken, most college court do not have NBA-regulation stanchion distances.  And I’m sure Paul George has played on worse courts before.

    Perhaps the stanchion being closer did increase the chance of an injury, but that chance is always present.  It sucks that George got hurt, but I don’t think that there is really anybody at fault here.  Just a freak injury.

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    • #941875
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      strobox88
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      The notion of the stanchion distances varying between NCAA and NBA court regulations didn’t occur to me until after I created this thread. Good response.

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    • #942008
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      strobox88
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      The notion of the stanchion distances varying between NCAA and NBA court regulations didn’t occur to me until after I created this thread. Good response.

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  • #942004
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     Unless I am mistaken, most college court do not have NBA-regulation stanchion distances.  And I’m sure Paul George has played on worse courts before.

    Perhaps the stanchion being closer did increase the chance of an injury, but that chance is always present.  It sucks that George got hurt, but I don’t think that there is really anybody at fault here.  Just a freak injury.

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    treytalkssports.com
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    No one is mentioning this unpopular opinion: 

    Maybe PG was stupid for going for that block. I mean, I know he is playing hard, which is a good thing, but he had no chance to block it. He was out of position and out of control trying to get to it … in a scrimmage. 

    What if PG had injured the shooter instead of himself? I don’t wish that on PG and I hope he is back by next All-star break, but it was a stupid and wreckless play. 

    He is more to blame for that block attempt than the hoop positioning. 

     

     

     

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    • #941891
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      strobox88
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      Realizations like "only a scrimmage" and "out of position to make a difference" don’t always prevent the most competitive basketball players in the world from deciding to act on a defensive play, especially when you are trying to make a USA roster.

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    • #942023
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      Realizations like "only a scrimmage" and "out of position to make a difference" don’t always prevent the most competitive basketball players in the world from deciding to act on a defensive play, especially when you are trying to make a USA roster.

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    • #941893
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       Geoger is conditioned to make plays when he is playing competitively.  Maybe it is just a scrimmage, but he still has to compete to perform well against so many talented players.  If he was always thinking he was going to get injured when landing a jump, then he wouldn’t be able to play very well.  You can’t play well if you aren’t confident; that is why it can be so hard to return from an injury.

      Honestly, I can’t see anyone calling that play reckless if PG didn’t get hurt on it.  He was hardly to only player to try to block a shot at the rim or make a play above the rim.  

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    • #942025
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       Geoger is conditioned to make plays when he is playing competitively.  Maybe it is just a scrimmage, but he still has to compete to perform well against so many talented players.  If he was always thinking he was going to get injured when landing a jump, then he wouldn’t be able to play very well.  You can’t play well if you aren’t confident; that is why it can be so hard to return from an injury.

      Honestly, I can’t see anyone calling that play reckless if PG didn’t get hurt on it.  He was hardly to only player to try to block a shot at the rim or make a play above the rim.  

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  • #942010
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    No one is mentioning this unpopular opinion: 

    Maybe PG was stupid for going for that block. I mean, I know he is playing hard, which is a good thing, but he had no chance to block it. He was out of position and out of control trying to get to it … in a scrimmage. 

    What if PG had injured the shooter instead of himself? I don’t wish that on PG and I hope he is back by next All-star break, but it was a stupid and wreckless play. 

    He is more to blame for that block attempt than the hoop positioning. 

     

     

     

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  • #941889
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     It was bad luck. As bad as the injury was, let’ just be thankful it is only one out of the thousands, millions of oppurtunities it could have happened. It was a normal play with bad luck. Hindsight is 20/20, and I’m sure no one has ever complained about stanchion distance, let alone know the term, until this incident.

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  • #942021
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     It was bad luck. As bad as the injury was, let’ just be thankful it is only one out of the thousands, millions of oppurtunities it could have happened. It was a normal play with bad luck. Hindsight is 20/20, and I’m sure no one has ever complained about stanchion distance, let alone know the term, until this incident.

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  • #941903
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    I mean we’re talking about world class athletes who don’t even think about how high or from how far back they jump. We’re talking bout 40, 50 inch vertical leaps! These guys need all the space they can get that will keep them as safe as possible. 

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  • #942035
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    I mean we’re talking about world class athletes who don’t even think about how high or from how far back they jump. We’re talking bout 40, 50 inch vertical leaps! These guys need all the space they can get that will keep them as safe as possible. 

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  • #941905
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    now that is had happened how many time have we seen players tri over camera men also.

    I think the the floor and actually court does need to be separated with a little more space if that wasn’t there maybe he would have tweaked or sprained his ankle at worst his momentum was stopped by that while is foot was slanted then he came straight down with the rest of his body weight so it snapped.

    I think after this something has to give if it can prevent future injuries why not make atteast a foot or 2 more of separation. its benifical to the players what if he had a casper ware/Livingston break where the bones comes all the way out and he tore ligaments along with breaks  this w horrible could have been worse.

    im going to pray for paul and the basetball world as a whole has to think about how to make the floor more safer for players also.

    I cringe at times players swing off the rim somethings are unpreventable but for those that are change needs to be made.

     

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    now that is had happened how many time have we seen players tri over camera men also.

    I think the the floor and actually court does need to be separated with a little more space if that wasn’t there maybe he would have tweaked or sprained his ankle at worst his momentum was stopped by that while is foot was slanted then he came straight down with the rest of his body weight so it snapped.

    I think after this something has to give if it can prevent future injuries why not make atteast a foot or 2 more of separation. its benifical to the players what if he had a casper ware/Livingston break where the bones comes all the way out and he tore ligaments along with breaks  this w horrible could have been worse.

    im going to pray for paul and the basetball world as a whole has to think about how to make the floor more safer for players also.

    I cringe at times players swing off the rim somethings are unpreventable but for those that are change needs to be made.

     

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  • #941907
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     If you look at every major sport these days they are all trying to find ways wether by rules changes or equipment to make it safer for the players. Having more room  before running into a stanchion certain could help. In the end it’s not going to hurt. Tough for pg, I certainly hope he comes back he was one of the games bright young stars.

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  • #942039
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     If you look at every major sport these days they are all trying to find ways wether by rules changes or equipment to make it safer for the players. Having more room  before running into a stanchion certain could help. In the end it’s not going to hurt. Tough for pg, I certainly hope he comes back he was one of the games bright young stars.

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  • #941947
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    The injury was absolutely preventable… If the stancion was further back he would have fallen back the other way, which would have prevented the injury…

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  • #942079
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    jwall1
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    The injury was absolutely preventable… If the stancion was further back he would have fallen back the other way, which would have prevented the injury…

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  • #942107
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    Hitster
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     I would have thought that with the amount of talent on show that Team USA would have requested the standard NBA set up for things like the stancions or played at a place that had them.

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  • #941975
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     I would have thought that with the amount of talent on show that Team USA would have requested the standard NBA set up for things like the stancions or played at a place that had them.

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  • #942143
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    ph90702

    This is going to be my last comment on this matter.  Team USA officials came out and said that the distance from the baseline to the stanchion was adequate.

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  • #942011
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    ph90702

    This is going to be my last comment on this matter.  Team USA officials came out and said that the distance from the baseline to the stanchion was adequate.

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  • #942179
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    The stanchion was measured at 3 feet 11". It is a touch short from NBA MINIMUM. But it is quite short from where most it would be in most NBA games and practices. Everyone knows the stanchion is dangerous. That is why there is padding in it. Since your team plays 50% of their games at home, every NBA team has tried to move their stanchion back. I think usually it is well past the NBA  minimum 4 feet. At the Barclay center it looks like it is a solid 5 feet back. PG would have landed with his foot flat on the floor on that play and probably been fine.   

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  • #942048
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    The stanchion was measured at 3 feet 11". It is a touch short from NBA MINIMUM. But it is quite short from where most it would be in most NBA games and practices. Everyone knows the stanchion is dangerous. That is why there is padding in it. Since your team plays 50% of their games at home, every NBA team has tried to move their stanchion back. I think usually it is well past the NBA  minimum 4 feet. At the Barclay center it looks like it is a solid 5 feet back. PG would have landed with his foot flat on the floor on that play and probably been fine.   

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