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  • #60894
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    215NGB
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     I came across a very good Q&A with Chandler Parsons about the whole DeAndre Jordan saga. I think it really puts it into perspective from a professional standpoint, since Parsons was so active in recruiting DeAndre. He doesn’t seem to hold back from the reporter and at times throws shots at DeAndre calling him "scared".

    espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4705530/chandler-parsons-qa-we-did-everything-that-we-can

    If u have time I suggest reading through the article. Parsons compares his decision to leave Houston last year to DeAndre’s, saying they were in very similar boats. 

    My opinion is that DeAndre is a punk and will end up making the wrong decison in the long-run. The Clippers are not set up to win a championship with they’re current roster and CP3 is an aging star. Not to mention Blake is a free agent in 2017 so halfway through his deal he could be looking back at it with regret, while the Mavericks core of young talent continues to develop.

     

     

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  • #999680
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     He should believe in himself more. Man is only as good as his word. I thought he was capable of more than what he shows in LA but I guess he doubts that himself. 

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  • #999535
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     He should believe in himself more. Man is only as good as his word. I thought he was capable of more than what he shows in LA but I guess he doubts that himself. 

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  • #999682
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    FearTheStache
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    Who exactly is in the Mavericks core of young talent?

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  • #999537
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    FearTheStache
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    Who exactly is in the Mavericks core of young talent?

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    • #999754
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      B-ball fan
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       Come on.  Do you mean to imply that Justin Anderson, Dwight Powell and Satnam Singh aren’t a great young core? 

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    • #999608
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       Come on.  Do you mean to imply that Justin Anderson, Dwight Powell and Satnam Singh aren’t a great young core? 

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  • #999690
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     Parson Dirk all be more effective with him inside. They add Williams and that helps. Man is as good as his word. I am 26 chance to have my OWN SQUAD, TAKE THAT. Weak is weak, but I wish him the best.

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  • #999545
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     Parson Dirk all be more effective with him inside. They add Williams and that helps. Man is as good as his word. I am 26 chance to have my OWN SQUAD, TAKE THAT. Weak is weak, but I wish him the best.

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  • #999696
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     As much as some of yall want to jump on DJ and his decision, that is just some hurt people talking because honestly no way Dallas was going to be better than the Clippers.  A multi millionaire is going to be bothered about something a player that has to play his team says.  It is not like DJ is not going to run into Parson.  I bet in person, Parson apologizes.

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  • #999551
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     As much as some of yall want to jump on DJ and his decision, that is just some hurt people talking because honestly no way Dallas was going to be better than the Clippers.  A multi millionaire is going to be bothered about something a player that has to play his team says.  It is not like DJ is not going to run into Parson.  I bet in person, Parson apologizes.

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    • #999728
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       I know youre one of those black dudes that thinks all white boys are punks. but if I were chandler I would not apologize for shit.

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    • #999583
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       I know youre one of those black dudes that thinks all white boys are punks. but if I were chandler I would not apologize for shit.

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      • #999756
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        sheltwon3
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         racist much

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      • #999610
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        sheltwon3
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         racist much

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      • #999789
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        Reading comprehension must not have been your strongest skill. You read his response and literally filled it with what you wanted to read so you could play the role of outraged person. Deandre is a clown and Parsons is a pretty boy. Neither of those two are going to be fighting and I doubt that was what was being inferred. They probably will run into each other at some point, both apologize to each other and still be friends. Kind of how most men get over being mad at each other.

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      • #999642
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        Reading comprehension must not have been your strongest skill. You read his response and literally filled it with what you wanted to read so you could play the role of outraged person. Deandre is a clown and Parsons is a pretty boy. Neither of those two are going to be fighting and I doubt that was what was being inferred. They probably will run into each other at some point, both apologize to each other and still be friends. Kind of how most men get over being mad at each other.

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  • #999702
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    The Mavs have a core of young talent??? lol… and CP3 may be “aging” (isn’t everyone?) but the alternative is Dirk who is much older so I’m not sure what your logic is there. Yeah Griffin could be gone in 2 years (no signs that he wants to leave or is unhappy) but you could say the same about Chandler Parsons.

    Not to mention the Clippers actually do at least have a little young talent (Wilcox, Stephenson, Dawson could be a surprise based on summer league play.) They also have a lot more solid role players than the Mavs (JJ Reddick, Jamal Crawford). And the one other good pickup the Mavs made, Wes Mathews, is grossly overpaid and coming off a devastating injury.

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  • #999557
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    The Mavs have a core of young talent??? lol… and CP3 may be “aging” (isn’t everyone?) but the alternative is Dirk who is much older so I’m not sure what your logic is there. Yeah Griffin could be gone in 2 years (no signs that he wants to leave or is unhappy) but you could say the same about Chandler Parsons.

    Not to mention the Clippers actually do at least have a little young talent (Wilcox, Stephenson, Dawson could be a surprise based on summer league play.) They also have a lot more solid role players than the Mavs (JJ Reddick, Jamal Crawford). And the one other good pickup the Mavs made, Wes Mathews, is grossly overpaid and coming off a devastating injury.

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  • #999708
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     So Ur mad at a player for changing his mind to stay at a team with a far better chance at winning. Yes He should have told Mark and the rest of the organization. But he was not obligated to do that. Think of it as a trade.nba teams trade players with out any notice or heads up. Free agency belongs to the players. How ever dj came to make the decision he made it. 

    How are the clippers not ready to take another step. The team May have been hearing Chris Paul’s chirping too much and could have gotten annoying. Enter Paul pierce another leader. Needed another dribble drive creator. Enter lance. And with Blake taking another step. they are real contenders. Spurs Okc clippers are the class or the west. And I don’t think it is close.

     

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  • #999563
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     So Ur mad at a player for changing his mind to stay at a team with a far better chance at winning. Yes He should have told Mark and the rest of the organization. But he was not obligated to do that. Think of it as a trade.nba teams trade players with out any notice or heads up. Free agency belongs to the players. How ever dj came to make the decision he made it. 

    How are the clippers not ready to take another step. The team May have been hearing Chris Paul’s chirping too much and could have gotten annoying. Enter Paul pierce another leader. Needed another dribble drive creator. Enter lance. And with Blake taking another step. they are real contenders. Spurs Okc clippers are the class or the west. And I don’t think it is close.

     

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    • #999710
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      The Warriors might be pretty good, too.

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    • #999565
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      The Warriors might be pretty good, too.

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      • #999791
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        It seems that everyone overlooks the Warriors. While I don’t think they will repeat, is it going to be shocking if they do? They return the same group that actually played and their best players are young and will likely be better. They lost David Lee who had a couple of good moments for them in the playoffs, but it’s the same group of guys coming back. I think people are discounting them a lot just because they did not add anyone.

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      • #999644
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        It seems that everyone overlooks the Warriors. While I don’t think they will repeat, is it going to be shocking if they do? They return the same group that actually played and their best players are young and will likely be better. They lost David Lee who had a couple of good moments for them in the playoffs, but it’s the same group of guys coming back. I think people are discounting them a lot just because they did not add anyone.

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      • #999811
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        logic
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         Yea I forgot about them my fault 

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      • #999665
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        logic
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         Yea I forgot about them my fault 

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  • #999712
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     I think DeAndre was wrong to change his mind like that after having a verbal commitment, but a verbal commitment isn’t a signed contract. It’s a low character move, but it’s not illegal and the Clippers with him will be much better than the Mavericks with him. Despite saying all that I’m not really mad at him he has a right to change his mind, but he should’ve told the Mavs rather than ignoring Mark Cuban all day.

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  • #999567
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     I think DeAndre was wrong to change his mind like that after having a verbal commitment, but a verbal commitment isn’t a signed contract. It’s a low character move, but it’s not illegal and the Clippers with him will be much better than the Mavericks with him. Despite saying all that I’m not really mad at him he has a right to change his mind, but he should’ve told the Mavs rather than ignoring Mark Cuban all day.

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  • #999772
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     Deandre Jordan was a shook one. Hearing everyone talk about how he would be exposed as a number 1 option he probably was like "oh they are right, I’m going back to LA" 

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  • #999626
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     Deandre Jordan was a shook one. Hearing everyone talk about how he would be exposed as a number 1 option he probably was like "oh they are right, I’m going back to LA" 

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  • #999778
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    ph90702

    What DeAndre Jordan did is no different than the high school players who commit to one school and then sign with another school.

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  • #999632
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    ph90702

    What DeAndre Jordan did is no different than the high school players who commit to one school and then sign with another school.

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    • #999819
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      It is different, because in college you don’t have salaries and you can pretty much take away scholarships from players.

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    • #999673
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      It is different, because in college you don’t have salaries and you can pretty much take away scholarships from players.

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      • #1000044
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        ph90702

        The Mavericks could have rescinded their offer from DeAndre Jordan if they wanted to.

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      • #999898
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        ph90702

        The Mavericks could have rescinded their offer from DeAndre Jordan if they wanted to.

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  • #999825
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     it’s not the decision to flake but how he went about it.  I just imagine him in his house telling everyone to be quiet and turn off all the lights and don’t make a peep.  And him hiding underneath his bed or in the corner.  If he knew all along LA was a better younger team then don’t even go on the market.  I actually think Chandler put him down nicely.  Could have said much worse. 

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  • #999679
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     it’s not the decision to flake but how he went about it.  I just imagine him in his house telling everyone to be quiet and turn off all the lights and don’t make a peep.  And him hiding underneath his bed or in the corner.  If he knew all along LA was a better younger team then don’t even go on the market.  I actually think Chandler put him down nicely.  Could have said much worse. 

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  • #999705
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     JJ Redick admitted that he backed out of a verbal agreement, is he also a coward.  Also owners, gms, etc do this all the time will players and you hear player even say they found out online they were traded but we don’t say those teams or gms are classless.  If you are have this high standard, you should hold everyone to it and not pick and choose.

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  • #999851
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     JJ Redick admitted that he backed out of a verbal agreement, is he also a coward.  Also owners, gms, etc do this all the time will players and you hear player even say they found out online they were traded but we don’t say those teams or gms are classless.  If you are have this high standard, you should hold everyone to it and not pick and choose.

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  • #999715
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    Deandre Jordan should have at least answered the phone like a man and told Cuban he was not going to Dallas. I don’t think parsons has the right call him out though. We don’t know all the underlying reasons why he is staying with the clippers. At the end of the day, jordan has to do what is right for him and he believes the clippers are the right fit for him moving forward so that is it. He did handle the situation poorly and unprofessionaly, but the blame should also go on the people advising him. 

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  • #999861
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    Deandre Jordan should have at least answered the phone like a man and told Cuban he was not going to Dallas. I don’t think parsons has the right call him out though. We don’t know all the underlying reasons why he is staying with the clippers. At the end of the day, jordan has to do what is right for him and he believes the clippers are the right fit for him moving forward so that is it. He did handle the situation poorly and unprofessionaly, but the blame should also go on the people advising him. 

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  • #999745
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     This is like the worst situation ever as far as debates go. 

    One side says "He handled it really poorly and unprofessionally. He basically dodged the Mavs all night."

    The other side says: "Verbal agreement doesn’t mean anything. He has a right to change his mind."

    Like nobody is saying he can’t change his mind. People do that all the time. But the DeAndre and Clipper Bobos won’t acknowledge that he handled it like a turd. 

    Anways, I actually think this is a blessing in disguise for Dallas. They weren’t going to be that good with him becaue he’s not such a force that is capable of carrying a team. But he’s also not bad enough that they’d be terrible. They’d be stuck in the proverbial middle. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #999891
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     This is like the worst situation ever as far as debates go. 

    One side says "He handled it really poorly and unprofessionally. He basically dodged the Mavs all night."

    The other side says: "Verbal agreement doesn’t mean anything. He has a right to change his mind."

    Like nobody is saying he can’t change his mind. People do that all the time. But the DeAndre and Clipper Bobos won’t acknowledge that he handled it like a turd. 

    Anways, I actually think this is a blessing in disguise for Dallas. They weren’t going to be that good with him becaue he’s not such a force that is capable of carrying a team. But he’s also not bad enough that they’d be terrible. They’d be stuck in the proverbial middle. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #999788
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     there is no debate calling a person names because you did not like what they did is something totally different than he handled this situation poorly.  I believe he handle this situation poorly but to name call and question a person’s manhood because you are upset makes one want to question your manhood.  We has all at time handle situation in ways that were not great.  That is part of being human.  One mistake or poorly handled situation should not destory what a person is or who is.  

     

     I know that somehow when DJ did this our perfect view of him changed.

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    • #999975
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       Shel , you are a million percent right.  People are trying attack this mans character , because he had a change of heart??  I didnt see this much vitriole when Adrian Peterson was bring his kid to the hospital ,after slicing his child’s SCROTUM. People need to get their priorities straight!

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    • #999828
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       Shel , you are a million percent right.  People are trying attack this mans character , because he had a change of heart??  I didnt see this much vitriole when Adrian Peterson was bring his kid to the hospital ,after slicing his child’s SCROTUM. People need to get their priorities straight!

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  • #999935
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     there is no debate calling a person names because you did not like what they did is something totally different than he handled this situation poorly.  I believe he handle this situation poorly but to name call and question a person’s manhood because you are upset makes one want to question your manhood.  We has all at time handle situation in ways that were not great.  That is part of being human.  One mistake or poorly handled situation should not destory what a person is or who is.  

     

     I know that somehow when DJ did this our perfect view of him changed.

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