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- Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 5:22am #29830
MJBrownParticipantHere are some options that I haven’t seen yet that might make sense for Charlotte if you’re willing to think out of the box:
Jimmer Freddette — Haven’t seen anyone post Freddette inside the top 10, but in a draft like this, really how much difference is there going to be between 9 and 12, where apparently his stock seems to be starting at. The Bobcats are are a horrible 3 point shooting team. Augustine is improving, but is certainly no star. Jordan loves to create competition within his team and I don’t see why he wouldn’t take a chance on Jimmer a couple picks earlier than he is scheduled to go. Worst case scenario for Jimmer is that he comes off the bench and hits a few 3’s per game while he’s learning to adjust to the athleticsm of the NBA
Klay Thompson or Jordan Hamilton — both playes can shoot the lights out, their stocks are rising, and they both tested well athletically. Again, in a weak draft like this one, after the first few picks, I feel like teams are going to be trying to fill needs, as the talent difference between 10 and 20 really isn’t that substantial.
Chris Singleton — my darkhorse pick. Can defend multiple postions. If he can prove to shoot the ball with some consistency during his workouts, there is no reason that Chris can’t crack the top 10.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 5:30am #539822

ilike.panochasParticipantDonatas Montiejunas would be a good choice for them. PF or C is their need, and I think they should go for upside over polish, and just hope they get lucky and get a stud, because as of right now, Stephen Jackson is their best player. That’s not a good look.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 5:48am #539828

JoeWolf1Paul Silas has said that Charlotte was looking for 3 point shooting and a backup point guard in this draft. I agree with Jimmer being a good choice for them at 9, and maybe a forward who can help replace the rebounding and D of Gerald Wallace. Maybe Kenneth Faried if he’s still on the board, Tristan Thompson, Markeiff Morris, and Justin Harper could all be possibilities.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 6:31am #539836

Allen_Iverson_3Participant"I think they should go for upside over polish"
That is definitely what they should do but why not draft Biyombo? He’s a defensive-minded (great for Bobcats) C with some nice upside imo.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:08am #539847

WolvesFutureParticipantDoes Charlotte think Tyrus is a part of their future? Can you have two elite athletes with non-existent offensive games on the floor at the same time?
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 6:45am #539840

JoeWolf1Wow, must be some Charlotte fans that aren’t thrilled about Jimmer. I’m not making things up.
"We really want some 3-point shooters – that’s huge for us. If we had a backup point, as well as a great shooter, that’s one of our basic needs."
-Paul Silas
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/06/03/1245121/silas-trade-up-in-draft-only-for.html
No names were mentioned, including Jimmer, but Fredette fits both of those needs.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 6:50am #539842
HarbingerAlec Burks before I read the article just posted I was amazed at all the mock drafts that had him getting past the bobcats. The perfect fit a team where he can get the playing time and develope his game , strengthing his weaknesses. A team in rebuilding mode giving wallace up bassically for nothing and Stephen jackson will be soon to follow. A back court of dj and burks seems nice to build with , while making the depth of the gaurd spot better. We are looking at a team the struggles to score rember the orlando and charlotte series? I think they go with Burks.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 6:59am #539845

JoeWolf1What about Henderson? he finally came on at the end of last season and has a lot of the same qualities Burks does. Athletic, poor outside shooter, developing mid range game, seems like they are really similar. If they go with a 2 guard, I think Klay Thompson would be a better fit because of his shooting, and more contrasting skill set than Henderson.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:06am #539846

WolvesFutureParticipantPG: Augustin/Livingston
SG: Jackson/Henderson/Carroll
SF: Diaw – is he a SF?
PF: Tyrus/DJ White/Najera
C: DiopLooks like they need more wings and some size in the frontcourt, or a legitimate starting Center, will they bring back Kwame?
They were also the second lowest scoring team and had the second lowest three point percentage in the League, guys like Jimmer, Jordan Hamilton, Klay Thompson would help.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:13am #539848

JoeWolf1It’s not that Tyrus Thomas’ offensive game is non-existant, but he’s really streaky which I think comes from lack of polish and low bball IQ. He has a decent 10-12 footer and is a pretty good FT shooter, he just makes stupid decisions a lot of times on offense. He’ll go for 20 one night and 4 the next, I wouldn’t count on him to develop into a big part of their future, but he’s a long athletic guy to bring off the bench. I don’t know what Charlotte has in store for him though.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:34am #539853

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant"That is definitely what they should do but why not draft Biyombo? He’s a defensive-minded (great for Bobcats) C with some nice upside imo."
Because he is a foul-prone project with no offensive skills who won’t be able to help them. If they want to play a shot blocker who can’t catch passes, they have DeSagana Diop. They have Tyrus Thomas who has all the same athletic and physical traits but from a skill standpoint is Tim Duncan when compared to Biyombo. They also might have interest in retaining Joel Przybilla and Kwame Brown, both of whom are also one-way players.
"We really want some 3-point shooters – that’s huge for us. If we had a backup point, as well as a great shooter, that’s one of our basic needs."
Demontez Stitt, LaMarshall Corbett, Kemba Walker, Shelvin Mack, Kevin Anderson, Mustapha Farrakhan, Malcolm Lee, Jacob Pullen, and Andrew Goudelock have either worked out for the Bobcats or will work out for them this weekend. The point guard crop is deep enough so that there are going to be good options at #19 and #39. I don’t think they can get one of the Morris twins at #19, and don’t even believe they’ll have a crack at Vucevic at #19. They need more skilled bigs up front, and those guys go quickly. If Goudelock can show them he can run the point, there are no questions about his abilty to shoot it.
"What about Henderson? "
Hip surgery. He should be ready to go next year, but Jonny Flynn was never quite right this year after hip surgery last summer. I think part of the reason a 2 is so important is that they probably don’t want to rely on him to be 100%.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:39am #539857
HarbingerHenderson tears the summer leauge up and think this is what your talking about
GP MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS March 15 33.1 5.5-11.7 .474 0.1-0.4 .167 2.4-2.7 .878 0.6 2.3 2.9 1.9 0.6 1.2 2.4 1.4 13.5 April 8 35.3 6.5-14.5 .448 0.5-1.6 .308 2.8-3.1 .880 1.3 3.3 4.5 3.5 0.4 1.4 2.4 1.1 16.3 With him picking up his okay they still didnt make the play offs. Mind you these stats are inflated because they started to play at a faster tempo (think knicks). For the season hes averaging 9.6 points .shooting .194 from the 3 and .454 from the feild there 29th in the leauge at scoring. Burks can do the same thing RITE NOW WITH NO EXPERIENCE. Is also a better passer and younger with higher upside. In this league sg dont do much but score and defend but when you get a sg that can pass. rebound , and get to the foul line thats a great thing.You cant sit there and tell me henderson is the future answer at the sg for the bobcats.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:46am #539863

JoeWolf1All I said is that Henderson and Burks’ games are similar as far as their strengths and weaknesses. I don’t think Burks is very NBA ready, he’s not going to come in and average 9 points per game. You’re right he’s younger with a lot of upside, but anyone who’s expecting Burks to come in the leauge and average more than 10 ppg as a rookie is going to be disappointed. He’s thin, not strong and isn’t a good outside shooter, he averaged 20 ppg for a team with a legit 2nd option, and the closest thing to another offensive option was Levi Knutson. He’s a good prospect, but and may develop into a very good player, but to say he’s already better than Gerald Henderson isn’t accurate.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:53am #539865
HarbingerMicheal Redd was a defender and scorer out of ohio state he became a shooter in the league, derrick rose developed a shot also.
Burks is a high reward player in a not so deep draft take and develope him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:59am #539870
HarbingerI didnt say he was "better player rie now " i said he can come in the league and do the same thing henderson is doing…shooting horrible. PPL say pg and centers are what everyteam needs imo its a sg when you have and elite sg your team will compete anyone can score but when you get players like roy,johnson,wade that can do more then one thing from the sg pos its a steal. thats why they should risk it on burks
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 8:03am #539872

JoeWolf1It just seems inconsistant to what Charlotte has been saying right now. If they want a backup PG and 3 point shooting why would they draft a SG who can’t shoot who has a similar skill set as their existing starting shooting guard who they invested a lottery pick on two years ago just turned 24.
They could draft him at #9 if they view him as the BPA, but it just doesn’t really fit their most immediate team needs IMO. Burks has upside and could develop into a good jump shooter, but a large part of predicting drafts is paying attention to what teams say.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 9:19am #539891

FritzParticipantI think they should go with a Big. Maybe Jimmer if he impresses in workouts, but I feel the two best pieces the Bobcats have going forward are Augustine and Henderson, (which shows the sad state of this franchise) so I think they should go with a big. Diop is not going to cut it up front. I think both the Morris’s would contribute right away, and the other 2 big Euros are an option also.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/04/2011 - 9:21am #539892
mrhancocParticipantCharlotte Bobcats should trade their draft picks! for draft picks next year It’s their best option, no matter who they have to choose from in this years draft, next years draft would be richer/a better draft. I really don’t see anyone that would give the Bobcats what they need(no rotation or star or franchise players). So do the smart thing, trade the pick to someone who wants it for their next years draft pick, so hopefully in 2012’s draft the Bobcats will have atleast 2 or even 3 picks in the first 20 pick.
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