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- Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 1:24pm #12299
tli232Everyone talks about which type of prospect is the best and who was drafted too high or too low or who is a bust….
To end most of that, my suggestion is to create a comprehensive database of Player Career PER (widely believed to the be the single most accurate indicator of a player’s contribution).
With this database, we can then compile an average PER for each draft position. Then we can be unbiased in saying if a player was either drafted too high or too low.
The really cool implication of compiling this database is that it allows us to make unbiased comparisons of the success of different groups of players. We can end disputes such as “in the last 10 years, which conference has the most players drafted too high?”
This will be quite the endeavor as it’ll take many man hours to compile 10-12 years of draft data. So…. I’m thinking we should try to divide it up and do it. This will be a great tool in settling things that could easily be proven with statistical analysis.
Once we do it, we can then calculate the likelihood of success based on height, weight, school, nationality, etc.
Anyone on board for this?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 1:34pm #250764

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IndianaBasketballParticipantYea… Would we be getting paid for this lol? Sounds like a lot of work!
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 1:40pm #250767

The8thDeadlySinParticipantIm not bias… There, solved the problem.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 2:53pm #250782
knicksfan7ParticipantIf you don’t play in either the Big East, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, ACC, Pac10, or Memphis during Calipari’s days your chances of being drafted are weak because the NBA scouts and front offices don’t value you as a player and just say the conference you played in made your stats better. In the last 5 drafts the A-10, a very respectable conference, had only 1 first round pick in the last 5 years, Mardy Collins Temple.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 3:13pm #250789
tli232Ok then… It’ll take me a few weeks to start, but it’ll take me a few weeks due to being busy with stuff. Keep an eye out for that.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 3:22pm #250792
quinceyhodgesknicksfan thats not true. they are more cautions but they dont just not value a player from a small conference. every year a couple of small conference players get drafted
0- Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 3:30pm #250797
knicksfan7ParticipantOf course they are more cautious because of the rigor of competition, but you can go look at past drafts and see how few players from mid-major conferences are taken in round 1. Also, not many are taken in round 2. Personally if a guy is a good basketball player and his skills need refining rather than say athletic ability I don’t think it should matter where a player plays. If a player is very athletic in the CAA it should not matter that he plays in the CAA b/c of other reasons.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 3:30pm #250798
knicksfan7ParticipantOf course they are more cautious because of the rigor of competition, but you can go look at past drafts and see how few players from mid-major conferences are taken in round 1. Also, not many are taken in round 2. Personally if a guy is a good basketball player and his skills need refining rather than say athletic ability I don’t think it should matter where a player plays. If a player is very athletic in the CAA it should not matter that he plays in the CAA b/c of other reasons.
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- Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 4:12pm #250815
quinceyhodgesthe reason they dont get alot of players drafted also is that there players arent as good as the players in the big conferences
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 4:15pm #250817

gatorheelsParticipantknicksfan- Scouts are going to notice a player regardless of what conference they play in. If the mid-major player is good enough he will get noticed. To say GMs/scouts don’t value a player if he plays for a mid-major school just isn’t true. Mid-major players have a chance to outshine the major players during the nonconference schedule, ncaa tournament, nit, draft workouts etc…
0- Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 4:20pm #250820
knicksfan7ParticipantI agree, but for certain mid-major teams that are good enough to possibly beat a ranked team or a major-conf team, but for the opponent has little or no value for them they won’t play that team. Hurting the player on the mid-major team’s chances of getting looked at. Also, if Stephen Curry and Davidson did not have that run in the Tourney I can guarantee that he would have been in the bottom half of the 1st round. If you come from a mid-major you have to do extraordinary things while you can be outplayed or play mediocre in a big time conference and still get selected in the lottery.
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- Posted on: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 4:16pm #250819

gatorheelsParticipanttli232- I’m interested to see your results from this research
0 - Posted on: Tue, 01/26/2010 - 2:40pm #251000
Adi JosephI actually think this exists, though I’m remiss to remember where. Might have been an article on the old site, or on TheDraftReview.com.
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