[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

Ok. I love the way the TWolves have built their team to this point, with the cornerstones being Wiggins and KAT (who MIGHT be the first TRUE franchise bigman since…Tim Duncan- and yes, I can back that up). They have obstacles to taking that next step though. Most people think that simply a lack of experience is what is holding them back, and that’s true- to an extent. Look deeper though, and another answer emerges. The biggest reason they aren’t even more competitive than they are now? Ricky Rubio. It’s time to finally move on from Rubio’s Reign. Don’t get me wrong, Rubio is a decent player, but the problem is decent PG play is detrimental to a rotation of players so young that half of them can’t legally drink yet. With a young team, you have to have spectatcular PG play, that puts pressure on the defense. So although Rubio is averaging over 8 assists and 2 steals a game, he negates that by shooting just 34% from the field (under 30% from 3). Ouch. KAT is actually a fantastic passer, but you wouldn’t know that from his NBA games and stats, because there isn’t proper spacing in the lineup. Defenses sag off Rubio until that 15 to 17 foot mark. Everyone knows what happens when a great post player has good spacing around him: he either averages more points because the double teams don’t trap as hard or at all, or he averages more assists, because out of the double team he can hit the open shooter or cutter. Rubio has decent trade value and would be good for another team, but not this wolves team. They are NOT getting any top Free Agents to sign, so they have to build through the draft. In today’s NBA, you need 3 superstars to compete for championships. Minny is at least 1 short. Trade Rubio to a contender for a pick and cap relief (the cap flexibility is crucial, otherwise this falls apart). Then with your top 10 pick, get an impact PG or at least a high IQ wing.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

First franchise big since Tim Duncan? Dirk might take a bit of issue with that.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

First franchise big since Tim Duncan? Dirk might take a bit of issue with that.

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 Lol. Fair enough. Dirk gets no respect…

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 Lol. Fair enough. Dirk gets no respect…

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 Also, I was thinking Center position with the KAT/Duncan comment, but I should have said that instead of "bigman"

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 Also, I was thinking Center position with the KAT/Duncan comment, but I should have said that instead of "bigman"

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Wolves would have a tough time unloading rubios contract without taking back some unwanted salary in return. Not sure his trade value is very high right now. He’s a good player who does a lot of things well but he’s just such a liability shooting the ball and he hasn’t shown any improvement in that regard. If I were Minnesota I would focus on trying to unload either pekovic or Martin right now. 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Wolves would have a tough time unloading rubios contract without taking back some unwanted salary in return. Not sure his trade value is very high right now. He’s a good player who does a lot of things well but he’s just such a liability shooting the ball and he hasn’t shown any improvement in that regard. If I were Minnesota I would focus on trying to unload either pekovic or Martin right now. 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

They traded disgruntled Love for Wiggins, one of those most highly touted draft picks who was compared to Lebron.

Then they sucked, finished with a worse recrod than the Sixers last year, and got the #1 pick and took a no-brainer in Towns.  BTW, I knew Towns would be the #1 pick after the HS AS games, before he got to Kentucky and everyone was questioning his "heart".  You watch Towns play vs Randle when he was playing with the same squad and its not even close…Towns brings balance to a team…so I agree he may be the best traditional Franchise big since Timmy(sad).

 

I don’t necessarily think if you replace Rubio with prime Jason Kidd they’re a powerhouse, but a good shooting PG would def help, like Steve Nash (which is why the Sixers traded away MCW).  The reality is they’re so young, everyone is still figuring out their identities.  They’re a fun team that enjoys playing with each other, and I like how Wiggins who tends to take breaks, if he feels wronged somehow or a player annoys him, will all of a sudden kick it into gear, but he’s too lackadaisical.  They’re young guys taht are still trying to figure out how many touches does Towns get….they don’t really play in a system.  They’re just young….its not like you have wise vets like Robert Horry and Rick Fox playing with Kobe and Shaq.  

Btw, I got negged like crazy for suggesting the Sixers sign guys like KG and Kobe….obviously Kobe is a wish but hoping he’d come back to Philly and mentor the guys…clearly he ain’t a mentor.  But then the Wolves went out and signed Miller Prince and KG…great moves…..and now its all "love the Wolves build".  These kids need to be shown how to battle with grit….as good a dude as Luc Mbah a Moute or Jason Richardson is…they’re not ideal because they don’t know how to dominate.  Similarly, Carl Landry is a nice vet, just like Elton Brand would be….but they don’t know how to dominate either.  Sixers need to find guys that are battle tested.  

  

 

 

 

 

   

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

They traded disgruntled Love for Wiggins, one of those most highly touted draft picks who was compared to Lebron.

Then they sucked, finished with a worse recrod than the Sixers last year, and got the #1 pick and took a no-brainer in Towns.  BTW, I knew Towns would be the #1 pick after the HS AS games, before he got to Kentucky and everyone was questioning his "heart".  You watch Towns play vs Randle when he was playing with the same squad and its not even close…Towns brings balance to a team…so I agree he may be the best traditional Franchise big since Timmy(sad).

 

I don’t necessarily think if you replace Rubio with prime Jason Kidd they’re a powerhouse, but a good shooting PG would def help, like Steve Nash (which is why the Sixers traded away MCW).  The reality is they’re so young, everyone is still figuring out their identities.  They’re a fun team that enjoys playing with each other, and I like how Wiggins who tends to take breaks, if he feels wronged somehow or a player annoys him, will all of a sudden kick it into gear, but he’s too lackadaisical.  They’re young guys taht are still trying to figure out how many touches does Towns get….they don’t really play in a system.  They’re just young….its not like you have wise vets like Robert Horry and Rick Fox playing with Kobe and Shaq.  

Btw, I got negged like crazy for suggesting the Sixers sign guys like KG and Kobe….obviously Kobe is a wish but hoping he’d come back to Philly and mentor the guys…clearly he ain’t a mentor.  But then the Wolves went out and signed Miller Prince and KG…great moves…..and now its all "love the Wolves build".  These kids need to be shown how to battle with grit….as good a dude as Luc Mbah a Moute or Jason Richardson is…they’re not ideal because they don’t know how to dominate.  Similarly, Carl Landry is a nice vet, just like Elton Brand would be….but they don’t know how to dominate either.  Sixers need to find guys that are battle tested.  

  

 

 

 

 

   

[tuck243Participant]

in every post baffles me.  

[tuck243Participant]

in every post baffles me.  

[tuck243Participant]

I agree…  I’ve said on this site plenty of times I don’t like that guy.   He wasn’t worth that contract and ppl said he was "getting better" at shooting, it was all confidence.    I watched him play PG this year.   He’s a victim on defense…  I’ve seen (THIS YEAR) teams just attacking him and these are players that aren’t considered top players.  Game after game…  Dragic destroyed Ricky when they played.   Basket after basket…   Then offensively, Ricky doesn’t do enough to make up for the points he gives up.   Nor does he himself produce enough points to be a threat in general.   In today’s NBA you can’t have a guard that can’t shoot AND can’t finish.   He has to go to a team like the Sixers in order to maximize his skill set at PG.   That’s why MCW did so well there.    

[tuck243Participant]

I agree…  I’ve said on this site plenty of times I don’t like that guy.   He wasn’t worth that contract and ppl said he was "getting better" at shooting, it was all confidence.    I watched him play PG this year.   He’s a victim on defense…  I’ve seen (THIS YEAR) teams just attacking him and these are players that aren’t considered top players.  Game after game…  Dragic destroyed Ricky when they played.   Basket after basket…   Then offensively, Ricky doesn’t do enough to make up for the points he gives up.   Nor does he himself produce enough points to be a threat in general.   In today’s NBA you can’t have a guard that can’t shoot AND can’t finish.   He has to go to a team like the Sixers in order to maximize his skill set at PG.   That’s why MCW did so well there.    

[markfitz14Participant]

 Which contender would want a PG that has that poor of a shooting avg? A team with a ton of shooters might be interested in him. Guys like Rubio and Rondo who are great passers have less and less value with the current style of NBA. Shooters from deep are what teams want. Prbly can’t even get much for Rubio. If they trade him now then they wont have a shooting PG this year anyway. Maybe he could be packaged with Martin in a trade. But they may just wait until the season ends or even next year to trade him becuase they don’t want to be short handed at PG either. I think they should get rid of him for whatever they can get and try to sign a decent veteran PG. 

The season has begun to be get a top draft pick mode though. They are not even playing Martin even though he is healty. Just waiting to trade him. 

 

[markfitz14Participant]

 Which contender would want a PG that has that poor of a shooting avg? A team with a ton of shooters might be interested in him. Guys like Rubio and Rondo who are great passers have less and less value with the current style of NBA. Shooters from deep are what teams want. Prbly can’t even get much for Rubio. If they trade him now then they wont have a shooting PG this year anyway. Maybe he could be packaged with Martin in a trade. But they may just wait until the season ends or even next year to trade him becuase they don’t want to be short handed at PG either. I think they should get rid of him for whatever they can get and try to sign a decent veteran PG. 

The season has begun to be get a top draft pick mode though. They are not even playing Martin even though he is healty. Just waiting to trade him. 

 

[sitlbitoParticipant]

 Facts are that the team is 10 times better when he’s on the floor though. He maybe won’t improve,but you better find a REALLY good point guard to make this team better without him than with him. To me the problem is on the bench:Nothing against the guy,those are tough times for the organisation,but Sam Mitchell has to go,and fast. He’s not a competent coach plain and simple. Again,can’t really blame him,taking over after Saunders’ death must be awfully difficult. But he reminds me of an undersized energy big,gives everything he has,but teams always think they can have a better player. 

[markfitz14Participant]

Haha true they need a different system. They look scattered at times. Thats what I was getting at too. If you can’t upgrade him then there is no point in trading him until something better comes along. He is the best PG on the team right now still. It might even hurt KAT and Wiggins more trading him now and trying to get a better PG in the draft. Just keep him for right now at least, then focus on PG in the draft. Maybe trade him if you can get a nice Veteran in return. But why would any team make that trade with Minn? They prbly wouldn’t, they would rather keep there veteran themselves. They are going to get a top 10 draft pick as it is right now. I doubt this team can roll of a bunch of wins this year.

[markfitz14Participant]

Haha true they need a different system. They look scattered at times. Thats what I was getting at too. If you can’t upgrade him then there is no point in trading him until something better comes along. He is the best PG on the team right now still. It might even hurt KAT and Wiggins more trading him now and trying to get a better PG in the draft. Just keep him for right now at least, then focus on PG in the draft. Maybe trade him if you can get a nice Veteran in return. But why would any team make that trade with Minn? They prbly wouldn’t, they would rather keep there veteran themselves. They are going to get a top 10 draft pick as it is right now. I doubt this team can roll of a bunch of wins this year.

[sitlbitoParticipant]

 Facts are that the team is 10 times better when he’s on the floor though. He maybe won’t improve,but you better find a REALLY good point guard to make this team better without him than with him. To me the problem is on the bench:Nothing against the guy,those are tough times for the organisation,but Sam Mitchell has to go,and fast. He’s not a competent coach plain and simple. Again,can’t really blame him,taking over after Saunders’ death must be awfully difficult. But he reminds me of an undersized energy big,gives everything he has,but teams always think they can have a better player. 

[HitsterParticipant]

 The T-Wolves are finally looking like they may be making progress, they have a nice mix of great young talent and old heads in the locker room. I know people must wonder why KG has played on when he could have taken a consultant, coaching role and still been around the roster. But actually having him on court even if it is for limited minutes gives him a great insight into how KAT in particular is playing. When they are both on the bench during the game, KG can point out little things to KAT and the other youngsters.

I’m still not sure about Sam Mitchell as a coach do they go for a top college coach or take someone like Coach Thibs. There was the issue that Thibs overplays guys but with the likes of KG, Miller, Prince there he’d have a nice bridge between him and the players.

 

[markfitz14Participant]

 I would try Thibs out. They need to select carefully for sure. I would take him in hopes the team becomes a defensive force with some scoring punch. Wiggins becomes the best wing Defender in the leauge. 

[markfitz14Participant]

 I would try Thibs out. They need to select carefully for sure. I would take him in hopes the team becomes a defensive force with some scoring punch. Wiggins becomes the best wing Defender in the leauge. 

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 Thibs might work if KAT’s work ethic is as good as I’ve heard. Once Wiggins gets more comfortable in his NBA star role, he will need to be pushed a little to unlock the next level.

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 Thibs might work if KAT’s work ethic is as good as I’ve heard. Once Wiggins gets more comfortable in his NBA star role, he will need to be pushed a little to unlock the next level.

[HitsterParticipant]

 The T-Wolves are finally looking like they may be making progress, they have a nice mix of great young talent and old heads in the locker room. I know people must wonder why KG has played on when he could have taken a consultant, coaching role and still been around the roster. But actually having him on court even if it is for limited minutes gives him a great insight into how KAT in particular is playing. When they are both on the bench during the game, KG can point out little things to KAT and the other youngsters.

I’m still not sure about Sam Mitchell as a coach do they go for a top college coach or take someone like Coach Thibs. There was the issue that Thibs overplays guys but with the likes of KG, Miller, Prince there he’d have a nice bridge between him and the players.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 The T-Wolves are finally looking like they may be making progress, they have a nice mix of great young talent and old heads in the locker room. I know people must wonder why KG has played on when he could have taken a consultant, coaching role and still been around the roster. But actually having him on court even if it is for limited minutes gives him a great insight into how KAT in particular is playing. When they are both on the bench during the game, KG can point out little things to KAT and the other youngsters.

I’m still not sure about Sam Mitchell as a coach do they go for a top college coach or take someone like Coach Thibs. There was the issue that Thibs overplays guys but with the likes of KG, Miller, Prince there he’d have a nice bridge between him and the players.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 The T-Wolves are finally looking like they may be making progress, they have a nice mix of great young talent and old heads in the locker room. I know people must wonder why KG has played on when he could have taken a consultant, coaching role and still been around the roster. But actually having him on court even if it is for limited minutes gives him a great insight into how KAT in particular is playing. When they are both on the bench during the game, KG can point out little things to KAT and the other youngsters.

I’m still not sure about Sam Mitchell as a coach do they go for a top college coach or take someone like Coach Thibs. There was the issue that Thibs overplays guys but with the likes of KG, Miller, Prince there he’d have a nice bridge between him and the players.

 

[mgreener_34Participant]

 I don’t exactly think Rubio is what’s holding the Wolves back, but more so the fact that the average age of their team is 27 years old, and that’s with a 39 year old KG, 39 Andrea Miller, and 35 year old Prince…This team is young, and they are going to face the same problems every young team faces.

Wiggins, Towns, and Lavine are all just 20 years old, so I think it’s understandable that they aren’t going to be title contenders any time soon. Even the young Thunder, who are more talented than this group, needed 5 years to actually make some real noise, and I expect the same growth from this Wolves team. 

I agree with you though that Rubio isn’t in the long term plans, but I think it would be a mistake to just trade him for pennies on the dollar. He isn’t a bad player. He can’t shoot, sure, but he finds the open man better than anyone in the NBA, and for all the hate you give him about making life harder for the bigs in the middle, you seem to forget all the EASY baskets he gets for these guys. Like another poster stated, the Wolves play so much better when he’s on the court, as their ASTr is 10% higher, STL and BLK%’s both are higher, ORtg is 2% higher, and DRtg is 8 points better when he plays. Teams shoot 48% when he’s in the game, opposed to 54% when he’s not, and I know those stats are a little skewed because the Wolves don’t exactly have a great defense nor bench, but Rubio also has the 3rd best DRtg on the Wolves at 103 (Behind KG and Towns…). He’s a big point guard who uses his length and IQ to be in the right spot and make plays.

I think this year the Wolves should draft a good young PG like Murrey or Dunn, and let them play the backup role until Rubio’s expiring, and then make your decision then and see if you can move his deal. Keep in mind Rubio is going to be extremely under paid in the next three years, so his contract isn’t bad. I would easily pay Rubio $13 mil a year to do what he does for my team. There is no point in giving up on a player simply because he can’t shoot. He can still be a super-sub player who can give you 30 minutes off the bench and run the second unit like a starter. 

The Wolves right now have a young core of 

Dieng (Is he part of their future? No one ever talks about him, but he plays well and puts up great numbers. I see people talking about how the Wolves need to draft a Center, but doesn’t Dieng fit that bill?)

Towns

Wiggins

Lavine

and that is more than most teams could dream of. All of those guys are great athletes, can shoot, have great defensive potential, and can all run the floor. Rubio fits in with that group going forward, so hold onto him for now. I think did the smart this by loading up on SOLID veterans like I mentioned above, and now they need to make some good signings to sure up their bench. When Pek comes back he could be a good scoring punch off the bench in a David Lee role, but I would look to move him. I think Shabazz is worth keeping, but I would look to move him as well. What they really need is a player like DJ Augustine or Boris Diaw, a player that can be a great bench piece, but also a player who can step up and start when needed. 

all in all, I think it would be a mistake to let Rubio go right now, and think they should just play out his contract. 

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 I respectfully disagree. The "we got time/just need experience" mentality is short-sighted. No one has as much time as they think, which is why I support Sacramento and New Orleans’ approach to surrounding their stars with talent (they just have been unlucky/wrong about the talent they have aquired). I wasn’t saying that the young core shouldn’t grow together. I was saying that Rubio is hindering that growth. Keep in mind that while we talk about growth and development, KAT and Wiggins are ALREADY top 30 players and getting better. I mean, no one is seriously arguing that an all-star level point guard wouldn’t improve this team immediately, right?

[markfitz14Participant]

 But nobody is trading an all star PG for Rubio. Taking one in the draft is a chance. You might not even get the guy you were targeting. So even if you do get a Murray or Dunn in the draft, you are going to start him right away. Prbly want to at least have someone start at PG to begin the year then slowly ease them into the starting role. 

[markfitz14Participant]

 But nobody is trading an all star PG for Rubio. Taking one in the draft is a chance. You might not even get the guy you were targeting. So even if you do get a Murray or Dunn in the draft, you are going to start him right away. Prbly want to at least have someone start at PG to begin the year then slowly ease them into the starting role. 

[TripleDoubleScoutParticipant]

 I respectfully disagree. The "we got time/just need experience" mentality is short-sighted. No one has as much time as they think, which is why I support Sacramento and New Orleans’ approach to surrounding their stars with talent (they just have been unlucky/wrong about the talent they have aquired). I wasn’t saying that the young core shouldn’t grow together. I was saying that Rubio is hindering that growth. Keep in mind that while we talk about growth and development, KAT and Wiggins are ALREADY top 30 players and getting better. I mean, no one is seriously arguing that an all-star level point guard wouldn’t improve this team immediately, right?

[mgreener_34Participant]

 I don’t exactly think Rubio is what’s holding the Wolves back, but more so the fact that the average age of their team is 27 years old, and that’s with a 39 year old KG, 39 Andrea Miller, and 35 year old Prince…This team is young, and they are going to face the same problems every young team faces.

Wiggins, Towns, and Lavine are all just 20 years old, so I think it’s understandable that they aren’t going to be title contenders any time soon. Even the young Thunder, who are more talented than this group, needed 5 years to actually make some real noise, and I expect the same growth from this Wolves team. 

I agree with you though that Rubio isn’t in the long term plans, but I think it would be a mistake to just trade him for pennies on the dollar. He isn’t a bad player. He can’t shoot, sure, but he finds the open man better than anyone in the NBA, and for all the hate you give him about making life harder for the bigs in the middle, you seem to forget all the EASY baskets he gets for these guys. Like another poster stated, the Wolves play so much better when he’s on the court, as their ASTr is 10% higher, STL and BLK%’s both are higher, ORtg is 2% higher, and DRtg is 8 points better when he plays. Teams shoot 48% when he’s in the game, opposed to 54% when he’s not, and I know those stats are a little skewed because the Wolves don’t exactly have a great defense nor bench, but Rubio also has the 3rd best DRtg on the Wolves at 103 (Behind KG and Towns…). He’s a big point guard who uses his length and IQ to be in the right spot and make plays.

I think this year the Wolves should draft a good young PG like Murrey or Dunn, and let them play the backup role until Rubio’s expiring, and then make your decision then and see if you can move his deal. Keep in mind Rubio is going to be extremely under paid in the next three years, so his contract isn’t bad. I would easily pay Rubio $13 mil a year to do what he does for my team. There is no point in giving up on a player simply because he can’t shoot. He can still be a super-sub player who can give you 30 minutes off the bench and run the second unit like a starter. 

The Wolves right now have a young core of 

Dieng (Is he part of their future? No one ever talks about him, but he plays well and puts up great numbers. I see people talking about how the Wolves need to draft a Center, but doesn’t Dieng fit that bill?)

Towns

Wiggins

Lavine

and that is more than most teams could dream of. All of those guys are great athletes, can shoot, have great defensive potential, and can all run the floor. Rubio fits in with that group going forward, so hold onto him for now. I think did the smart this by loading up on SOLID veterans like I mentioned above, and now they need to make some good signings to sure up their bench. When Pek comes back he could be a good scoring punch off the bench in a David Lee role, but I would look to move him. I think Shabazz is worth keeping, but I would look to move him as well. What they really need is a player like DJ Augustine or Boris Diaw, a player that can be a great bench piece, but also a player who can step up and start when needed. 

all in all, I think it would be a mistake to let Rubio go right now, and think they should just play out his contract. 

[TravelinTravParticipant]

 The best case scenario would be for Rubio to come off the bench. He is a good player he is great at steals and assists, but not quick and  he couldn’t beat Helen Keller in a game of HORSE. He is a very injury prone player and less minutes would help him a lot. I’m hoping Tyus cuts into his minutes mostly because Rubio has never had another good PG to challenge him for playing time. If Rubio becomes the 6th man due to a better PG the wolves would be a legit team, I don’t how or who would be the starting PG hopefully Murray or Dunn next year. No need to trade Rubio just for the sake of trading him wait it out and keep your eyes and ears open to other temas that are talking trades, I think the Rockets would be a great fit for Rubio.

[markfitz14Participant]

 Rubio for Lawson would be decent. Get a Vet PG that is pretty good when in the right system. Houston wants away from him since he didn’t really fit well with the team. 

[markfitz14Participant]

 Rubio for Lawson would be decent. Get a Vet PG that is pretty good when in the right system. Houston wants away from him since he didn’t really fit well with the team. 

[TravelinTravParticipant]

 The best case scenario would be for Rubio to come off the bench. He is a good player he is great at steals and assists, but not quick and  he couldn’t beat Helen Keller in a game of HORSE. He is a very injury prone player and less minutes would help him a lot. I’m hoping Tyus cuts into his minutes mostly because Rubio has never had another good PG to challenge him for playing time. If Rubio becomes the 6th man due to a better PG the wolves would be a legit team, I don’t how or who would be the starting PG hopefully Murray or Dunn next year. No need to trade Rubio just for the sake of trading him wait it out and keep your eyes and ears open to other temas that are talking trades, I think the Rockets would be a great fit for Rubio.

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

there are only so many PGs in the league that would do what Rubio does already but also be able to shoot.

In the NBA you need stars and you need role playing rocks, guys that do their job and stabilize the rest of the offense.  Not guys that don’t know what they’re doing, like Dion Waiters and Julius Randle.  

So unless you find a PG that can distribute like Rubio and also shoot, how would anyone else progress the other guys development?

Rubio is a veteran that will find the guy and give it to him in the right spot.  You want to replace him with Ty Lawson? Huh?  A scoring PG that would NOT develop a system in which the young stars can develop?

You only replace him if its an upgrade.  He doesn’t hold the other guys back much at all, he’s just not good enough to take them to the next level and its an area where they can upgrade.

But the real upgrade will be the input of a system and just natural maturation of the players.  Towns will get stronger and fill his role, and Wiggins will get stronger and hopefully develop an attitude where he really stars to rule the floor.

Btw, this team finished in last place last year.  They were worse than the Sixers and worse than the embarassing Knicks.

The point is, teams can obviously turn things around significantly in a year with some veteran help and some solid draft picks.  This si why all this panic over the Sixers this year is kind of silly.  I don’t like Hinkie as a public relations guy, or even as a talent evaluator, but I trust him as a capologist and to execute a rebuild, he just needed help, which is exactly why Colangelo fits well.  I think with their added talent next year they’ll be fine, just like Minnesota is this year.  

I also don’t think Towns and Wiggins are really special players.  I think they’re very good, but if they don’t have system, they’re not winning.  Wiggins just doesn’t have a killer instinct, I want to see him take over games.  I really hope he does.

BTW tuck, I got the Sixers in there again…hah.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

there are only so many PGs in the league that would do what Rubio does already but also be able to shoot.

In the NBA you need stars and you need role playing rocks, guys that do their job and stabilize the rest of the offense.  Not guys that don’t know what they’re doing, like Dion Waiters and Julius Randle.  

So unless you find a PG that can distribute like Rubio and also shoot, how would anyone else progress the other guys development?

Rubio is a veteran that will find the guy and give it to him in the right spot.  You want to replace him with Ty Lawson? Huh?  A scoring PG that would NOT develop a system in which the young stars can develop?

You only replace him if its an upgrade.  He doesn’t hold the other guys back much at all, he’s just not good enough to take them to the next level and its an area where they can upgrade.

But the real upgrade will be the input of a system and just natural maturation of the players.  Towns will get stronger and fill his role, and Wiggins will get stronger and hopefully develop an attitude where he really stars to rule the floor.

Btw, this team finished in last place last year.  They were worse than the Sixers and worse than the embarassing Knicks.

The point is, teams can obviously turn things around significantly in a year with some veteran help and some solid draft picks.  This si why all this panic over the Sixers this year is kind of silly.  I don’t like Hinkie as a public relations guy, or even as a talent evaluator, but I trust him as a capologist and to execute a rebuild, he just needed help, which is exactly why Colangelo fits well.  I think with their added talent next year they’ll be fine, just like Minnesota is this year.  

I also don’t think Towns and Wiggins are really special players.  I think they’re very good, but if they don’t have system, they’re not winning.  Wiggins just doesn’t have a killer instinct, I want to see him take over games.  I really hope he does.

BTW tuck, I got the Sixers in there again…hah.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

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 Rubio is elite in some aspects of the game, above average in many and bad in just one. That´s why his PER is also above average…

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 Rubio is elite in some aspects of the game, above average in many and bad in just one. That´s why his PER is also above average…

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