[j1232eParticipant]

I think Demarcas Cousins

[festar35Participant]

I think Aminu or Johnson.

[j1232eParticipant]

turner!

[bkballerParticipant]

well if they are actually picking 7th or 8th like most sites predict they wont have much of a choice. This draft to me really seems like its 3-4 players deep. After all the criticism last years draft had because maybe it didn’t have any clear cut franchise players, it was a lot deeper than this years.

[kurtu17Participant]

yeah i dont think they will go after that european player thats in the lottery…if they really want another passing big then they can go after Cole aldrich…he can share min with okur…and be Utahs best interior defender down the road..or they can even go after Greg Monroe…there both projected to go a bit lower maybe trade down…i dont know….but if they want to go with the most talented person available maybe it would probably be that aminu guy…unless they somehow kick ass and get really high pick in the lottery then it would be a diff story

[j1232eParticipant]

5 I think!

[j1232eParticipant]

Will be a all star in 3 – 5 years Monroe willl dominated!

[j1232eParticipant]

mONroe!

[lalailaParticipant]

Henry could be another choice..he would play very well with Deron Williams

[tonyl33Participant]

What the Jazz really needs is a solid player in the SF position who can also play solid Defense. The Jazz is in the same conferences with players by the name of Melo and Durant.

[knicks82Participant]

Come on…we all know they will go with Cole Aldrich…the white kid. This is Utah were talking bout lol

[LeroyJenkinsParticipant]

the jazz have a history of drafting certain kind of players…cousins, as good as he is, would never get picked by them

[LeroyJenkinsParticipant]

the jazz have a history of drafting certain kind of players…cousins, as good as he is, would never get picked by them

[QUINCEY]

this could turnout to be a deep draft just like last year. most didnt think last years was deep or good either. the beauty of it is we wont know untill they play

[butidonthavemoney]

Motiejunas is not another Memo Okur. Even if he was, what’s wrong with Mims?

Utah will likely be drafting between 4 and 9. Cole Aldrich, Greg Monroe and Derrick Favors are the most likely picks.

I know for a fact that Utah will not draft Cousins, and I am 90 percent sure that they wouldn’t take Whiteside either.

[McWinningParticipant]

They have four white centers….. their gonna add another Cole Aldrich.

[butidonthavemoney]

No they don’t.

Besides, all of our power forwards are black. So using your logic, we are just as likely to draft a black power forward.

[McWinningParticipant]

Lol they have Koufus, Okur, the MIchigan state guy, and another European guy right?

[xxreppinxx614xxParticipant]

Well first of, its Draft not DRAZT, lol, But i can picture Hassan Whiteside being the first Center taken in the draft, possibly #1 Pick depending on who wins the Lottery.

[butidonthavemoney]

Goran Suton was cut in training camp. Utah doesn’t even own his rights anymore.

[McWinningParticipant]

Oh…. well tey still have the rights to Ante Tomic right?

[McWinningParticipant]

Lol look at who they compare him to.
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ante-tomic

[butidonthavemoney]

They have the rights to Ante Tomic, but it really doesn’t say anything about who the Jazz plan to draft. Have you noticed that none of the Jazz’s white centers are American born? So that would mean that we would be more likely to draft Motiejunas, right? But also look at all of the Jazz lottery-picked players. Deron Williams. So that means that the Jazz would be more likely to draft a point guard. But also, look at the our power forwards. All undersized. So Utah would be more likely to draft an undersized power forward.

It’s a very narrow-minded logic.

[McWinningParticipant]

well Motiejunas isnt a center but they do have the rights to that one Serbian power forward so maybe theyll draft another international power forward.

[QUINCEY]

what exactly is wrong with being like okur?..hes not the best defender but when he is on top of his game he is very close to all star talent

[butidonthavemoney]

Are you kidding?

[butidonthavemoney]

Memo has his moments. Utah needs him too. His shooting/size is very valuble.

[McWinningParticipant]

Nope… they draft every European big man they can find.

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_history/2008.html

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tadija-Dragicevic-5022/

[McWinningParticipant]

Hes not half bad hes averaging over 12 points a game in the Italian league.

[QUINCEY]

not saying they will draft someone like him but i do recall memo playing at his best and barely missing the allstar game…so no im not kidding. maybe you didnt watch basketball that year. no team would ever want a center who put up 18ppg and 9reb a game on a 500 team and can hit threes

[butidonthavemoney]

Quincey, I was talking to Birdzilla. Memo was an all-star a few years back. I know he can ball.

[QUINCEY]

oh ok my bad. was kinda suprised that you of all people wouldnt know these things..lol

[McWinningParticipant]

Yo8u got a steal. He was the MVP of the Adriatic league, and is putting up good numbers in the Italian league.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

The jazz had better get either 4or 5th pick. In other words Knicks, start tanking. Their dream pick is Wes Johnson. He plays D very well, better then AK(I think he has the same wingspan as AK, maybe a little shorter.) He can shoot better than AK. He is willing to come off the bench his rookie year, but thanks to Wes Matthews, Sloan will start him. This guy would be amazing as a jazzman.
But if he goes before the Jazz are on the clock, then I would either try and do a trade for him(just like they did when they drafted d-will. had 6th, but traded it to Portland for the 3rd, that year the blazers picked Martell Webster, what a mistake that was) Or I would pick Monroe. Johnson is better because of his offensive power, but Monroe will do especially if Booz does ends up leaving in the offseason.
The third and last resort pick is Aminu. Cousins is the worst guy they could draft. Wrong attitude, which could end Sloan’s coaching career, and be a head case for the ENTIRE TEAM.

Okur is not that bad actually. Ever since the birth of his baby about a week ago he has been averaging 20 pts. 8rbs, and 1.7 blocks Very good numbers for any center. Grant it he is not a true Center, but they have backup in Krylyo Fesenko who is actually very nicely. You may not see it, because he plays backup alot, but when he starts he actually is not too bad. And Fez is a true center, he just needs to learn how to use that 300lb to his advantage. Koufus is going no where as is Sutan.

[butidonthavemoney]

Why is everybody so low on AK? Without him we are barely a playoff team.

[QUINCEY]

they can make the playoffs without ak. heis ok and adds to there team but hes not the guy that keeps them from missing or making the playoffs. and they are low on him because he is/was either crying about not getting touchs or plays run for him or he thought he was a better offensive player then he is/was. hes learned to know his role now but that wasnt the case last year

[butidonthavemoney]

We weren’t in the playoffs until we started AK-47. Now we are competing for the second best record in the West.

Like I said, you guys don’t give him nearly enough credit. Without him, the Jazz are barely a playoff team. Probably wouldn’t even get past the first round. Ask anybody on the Jazz who the X-Factor is. They will all give you the same answer. It isn’t Booze, it isn’t D-Will and it isn’t Memo.

Nobody in the Jazz organization is low on Kirilenko anymore.

[rtbtParticipant]

butidonthavemoney, allow me to try and answer your question. NBA GMs and fans are obsessed with offense. Obviously Kirilienko’s strengths are defense, shot blocking, and weak side defense. He can guard both power fowards and SFs, so that makes him extremely valuable. You can only have so many scorers on your team then you have to blend in guys with complimentary skills. But those kind of skills don’t translate well into today’s media driven society.

I don’t understand why people keep knocking Utah, they’re 40 and 22 which is damn good. If New York was playing just 500 ball New Yorkers would be excited. I think NY fans would pass out if the Knicks had that kind of record.

As for Mehmet Okur, I don’t see him as a center. I always thought he would be better off playing PF, but Utah already has enough fire power at PF.

[butidonthavemoney]

True, but even the media has recognized AK-47’s resurgence.

“Over the summer the 6’9” Kirilenko gained 20 pounds of muscle. The added strength has enabled him to play through the pounding he absorbs while attacking at both ends. “It’s almost like every possession he’ll get a steal, he’ll lead the break, he’ll dunk on somebody, he’ll get a jump shot, he’ll get a blocked shot, he’ll rebound the ball,” says Boozer.”

“Kirilenko, 29, is a fascinating character who openly wept in frustration with his shrinking role during the 2007 playoffs, but Williams has little interest in his teammate’s psyche. “That really doesn’t matter to me,” says Williams. “I’ve always been a firm believer that AK is our x factor. We go as he goes, and for whatever reason he’s playing with a lot more confidence this year.”

“Kirilenko is the caffeine that makes the Utah Jazz eager and dangerous, the burst that overcomes what they lack in size and athleticism. He has rediscovered that energy since January when coach Jerry Sloan reinserted him into the starting lineup. Since then, Utah has gone [19-4] to leap within two games of Dallas for the No. 2 seed in the West.”

I think that some of the users on this site are just used to him sucking. They don’t understand the kind of turnaround he has had. Man, but some of these people are Jazz fans… You should be ashamed of yourself! Andrei being replaced in 1 or 2 years? HA!

You guys suck!

[QUINCEY]

so him starting is the reason they are in the playoffs not the play of dwill or boozer?..gtf outta here..lol…yes he contributes but they are still a playoff team without him. when he was playing bad they still made the playoffs

[butidonthavemoney]

As an 8th seed…

Boozer and Williams were playing well before. It was only with the addition of AK-47 that they pushed themselves into this position.

And I said BARELY a playoff team several times. They could make the playoffs but they wouldn’t win anything.

[QUINCEY]

the same can be said with the addition of matthews or some other players. they would not have been no 8th seed. everyone started playing better and they started playing better defense. it wasnt just putting ak in the starting line up. thats one of the reasons why just like matthews playing well was one of the reasons why and dwill playing better all around. it was just ak or no playoffs. im not a big jazz fan but i watch them just as much because of friends that play/played on there team

[butidonthavemoney]

Matthews was there before. So no, the same cannot be said. As soon as Andrei was put in the starting lineup the Jazz flipped a switch and became a much better team. They started playing better defense because of Andrei Kirilenko.

Do you honestly think that is was just a coincidence that the Jazz became a better team the day the Kirilenko was put in the starting line-up? What are the chances of that?

[QUINCEY]

and ak was there before..dont you remeber he has started before in the past?…and isnt it more improtant to be there during crunch time?..and hadnt that been when boozer,millsap, and brewer were out there?

[butidonthavemoney]

But his confidence was low. Starting him this year gave him confidence and he has shown it in his games.

He gives the Jazz another passer, he cuts, hits jumpers, he defends, he gets steals, blocks and he adds athleticism to the starting line-up. If you really did watch the Jazz so much, you would see that for yourself.

EDIT: Wait a minute. You don’t watch the Jazz. Mr. “Carlos Boozer never plays center!” What am I talking to you about this for?

[QUINCEY]

i dont watch them all the time but i do watch them. ak is ok. hes not a star or a greta player but he is serviceable….im looking on 82games.com to prove to you himbeing in the starting lineup isnt the main reason they are doing well.. that way theres no more arguement

[butidonthavemoney]

That’s funny. So am I. And it says he is the most productive player on the team. .1 ahead of Deron Williams.

http://www.82games.com/0910/0910UTA.HTM

“that way theres no more arguement”

[QUINCEY]

lol….well we both know we cant do by that now dont we cuz we both know whos the most improtant player on that team…lol..from what i see its inconclusive..you see where it says there top 5 man units are?….boozers ak,okue williams and brewer

[butidonthavemoney]

It’s inconclusive because they didn’t give you favor. You implied that they would indeed be conclusive before we looked the stats up.

I do agree, that they don’t prove anything. However, I also know that AK is the main reason the Jazz started playing better. I also believe that Korver getting his shot back and Gaines miracle shot were also factors that helped spark the run. Without AK playing like he has been, I wouldn’t have expected the Jazz to finish any better than the 7th seed.

I’m not an idiot. I know Deron Williams is the most important player on the Jazz, but even he says AK is the reason the Jazz are playing so well.

[QUINCEY]

no you took it as if it would favor me. i just said id go on there and end the arguement. its inconclusive because it doesnt say one way or the other unless you found something that i didnt…dwill has also said last week that boozer is the reason they are playign well… and eairler he said it was there defense. point being its more then just one thing or player

[butidonthavemoney]

Did you even read my last post?

I said that I AGREE that it’s inconclusive.
I also said that the success is due to more than one player.

Isn’t it possible that Kirilenko is responsible for the improved defense? Is he not a better defensive player than CJ Miles?

You should take the liberty of digging up that quote. I showed D-Will’s quote saying that Kirilenko is the X-Factor.

[marcusfizer21Participant]

The JAzz will get a quality player this 2010 Draft… They’re garddamn lucky! I don’t care who they’ll pick  because at the end of the night, they’re a playoff team adding up another very good piece to their puzzle…

[butidonthavemoney]

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marcusfizer21 is one of my favorite posters when he isn’t sending me nudies!

[QUINCEY]

its gonna be fun when i move back to utah in a month and going to there games again and getting on the fans nerves rooting for the other team…lol…but they will have a pretty good team..they wont be as good next year with boozer gone though even though millsap is good.

[j1232eParticipant]

sorry for being so drunk and stuip the other night, I no I made no scense and I should put the computer away when I buy the Vodka. I wish my computer would just shut down when I drink that much.

[QUINCEY]

lol…yeah i figured you were either drunk or very very young

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