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  • #26051
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    flyboy
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    His overall efficiency numbers aren’t overwhelmingly high. He’s put very good numbers in points on the board in an somewhat inconsistent fashion, is very very inconsistent with his driving game and actually getting to the FT line, his passes are not crisp, he’s got tunnel vision, he’s a poor rebounder, and he’s about average I’d venture as a defender. I think he’s decent on ball at times, but he seems to lose focus a lot off ball (and on ball as well) and it results in him getting blown by.

    So, with all of this said, why do people look at Young as a legit #1 option? I like Nick a lot, being a Wiz fan, but he’s not going to be a #1 option on a team and lead them to victories. He’s a RFA at the end of the year and almost certainly will be overpaid and remain in Washington. I think the bandwagoning of Nick at times has been out of control. What do you all think?

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  • #494082
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    Who considers him a #1 option on a real team? He’s a #1 option on his team by default considering Blatche has the lowest basketall IQ in the NBA. I disagree with you though about his scoring efficiency. For a guy who takes a ton of shots, 45% from the field, 39% from the 3 point line, and 81% from the line are extremely good numbers. Problem is outside of scoring he brings nothing as a ball player. Bad defense, no rebounding or passing. He also is an extremely moody people and I don’t think his attitude would fly on a contending team. He is extremely talented but he needs to grow up and work on being a basketball player not just a scorer.

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    Who considers him a #1 option on a real team? He’s a #1 option on his team by default considering Blatche has the lowest basketall IQ in the NBA. I disagree with you though about his scoring efficiency. For a guy who takes a ton of shots, 45% from the field, 39% from the 3 point line, and 81% from the line are extremely good numbers. Problem is outside of scoring he brings nothing as a ball player. Bad defense, no rebounding or passing. He also is an extremely moody people and I don’t think his attitude would fly on a contending team. He is extremely talented but he needs to grow up and work on being a basketball player not just a scorer.

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    • #494287
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      Have said he’s a #1. I guess most people here disagree, which is good, but I’ve read some eye-opening things concerning Young, especially from fans of teams who want to trade for him. He’s got good shooting numbers and no doubt is a very good shooter but what I meant by inconsistency is the fact he doesn’t bring the same level every game. Some games he has little overall impact on the result, which isn’t good if your a #1 player on a team. He hasn’t consistently scored well on the road. Also as we all know, he doesn’t do much else to impact the game other than shooting even at his best of times. His season efficiency ranking is around the average for NBA players.

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    • #494334
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      Have said he’s a #1. I guess most people here disagree, which is good, but I’ve read some eye-opening things concerning Young, especially from fans of teams who want to trade for him. He’s got good shooting numbers and no doubt is a very good shooter but what I meant by inconsistency is the fact he doesn’t bring the same level every game. Some games he has little overall impact on the result, which isn’t good if your a #1 player on a team. He hasn’t consistently scored well on the road. Also as we all know, he doesn’t do much else to impact the game other than shooting even at his best of times. His season efficiency ranking is around the average for NBA players.

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     JR Smith lite 

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     JR Smith lite 

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  • #494102
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     I don’t necessarily think Blatche has a low i.q., he is just selfish on offense and lazy on defense….. I ‘ve watched just about every Wizards game this season and he makes smart high-i.q. type plays he is just lacking effort most of the time and if his offensive game isn’t clicking, he rarely ever makes up for it by putting more effort in another category, which IMO "showcases" his laziness…..

    I think that on a good team, Nick Young is a high-scoring 6th man of the year type player- an instant offense threat off the bench.

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  • #494059
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     I don’t necessarily think Blatche has a low i.q., he is just selfish on offense and lazy on defense….. I ‘ve watched just about every Wizards game this season and he makes smart high-i.q. type plays he is just lacking effort most of the time and if his offensive game isn’t clicking, he rarely ever makes up for it by putting more effort in another category, which IMO "showcases" his laziness…..

    I think that on a good team, Nick Young is a high-scoring 6th man of the year type player- an instant offense threat off the bench.

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  • #494110
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    Agree down the line Nick can be a Jamal Crawford type dynamo 6th man, problem is until he improves his defense and overall game coaches on contending teams won’t trust him at the end of games to be in there because he’s a defensive liability.

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  • #494067
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    Agree down the line Nick can be a Jamal Crawford type dynamo 6th man, problem is until he improves his defense and overall game coaches on contending teams won’t trust him at the end of games to be in there because he’s a defensive liability.

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  • #494251
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    I think people underrate Nick’s defense. He’s not the flashiest defender (getting steals and chase-down blocks), but he stays in front of his man. I’m too lazy to pull up the stats now, but I saw this stat that showed that the man he’s guarding scores at an extremely low rate.

    I do agree that he’s not a #1 option though. He’s too one-dimensional on offense. He doesn’t get a good amount of rebounds and assist (even though I think he’s been doing a better job in both areas lately). I also think he should drive more (even though he’s been doing a better job of this and getting to the free-throw line also).

     

     

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  • #494298
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    I think people underrate Nick’s defense. He’s not the flashiest defender (getting steals and chase-down blocks), but he stays in front of his man. I’m too lazy to pull up the stats now, but I saw this stat that showed that the man he’s guarding scores at an extremely low rate.

    I do agree that he’s not a #1 option though. He’s too one-dimensional on offense. He doesn’t get a good amount of rebounds and assist (even though I think he’s been doing a better job in both areas lately). I also think he should drive more (even though he’s been doing a better job of this and getting to the free-throw line also).

     

     

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  • #494275
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    Nick has definitely improved his on ball defense. He’s a decent on ball defender. He’s not a defensive liability, nor is he a defensive stopper. About 75% of the time, he plays productive defense on the ball. With that said, he’s not nearly as good off the ball on defense. He’s also not particularly good on pick and roll defense. Sometimes he gets caught flat footed with poor footwork defensively, but it’s all an awareness/focus issue, that will continue improving with more experience.

    He’s also definitely doing a much better job of actually driving, and he has decent enough ballhandling/first step to do this. He should look to seek contact more than he does instead of avoiding it and that can definitely become a strength. But currently, yes, he’s simply too one-dimensional overall to be a #1 player.

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  • #494322
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    Nick has definitely improved his on ball defense. He’s a decent on ball defender. He’s not a defensive liability, nor is he a defensive stopper. About 75% of the time, he plays productive defense on the ball. With that said, he’s not nearly as good off the ball on defense. He’s also not particularly good on pick and roll defense. Sometimes he gets caught flat footed with poor footwork defensively, but it’s all an awareness/focus issue, that will continue improving with more experience.

    He’s also definitely doing a much better job of actually driving, and he has decent enough ballhandling/first step to do this. He should look to seek contact more than he does instead of avoiding it and that can definitely become a strength. But currently, yes, he’s simply too one-dimensional overall to be a #1 player.

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  • #494371
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    And I agree with Da1pot. Blatche doesn’t have a low baskeball I.Q. He just plays lazy and tries to do too much sometimes.

    Throughout the year, he’s looked out of shape, rusty, unsure of himself, and has kind of a gut because of the foot injury, which has limited his quickness and lift (and you have to take this stuff into account because he isn’t a physicical player). He mainly scores on people by blowing by them with his quickness, but he hasn’t been able to do that this season. And when he can’t get by his man, he usually settles for heavily contested jumpshots. He’s regressed this year, but IMO, it looks like he’s shedded the extra weight, so I can see him playing well from here on out.

    He has to try to be a difference maker though. He’s just out there on the court. It started making me sick when Gil started doing that and now he’s is the same way. You are getting paid alot of money. You cant just cruise through games. Dont you have any passion or self pride? No one respects your game like that. Even your stats mean nothing. Its just stats because someone has to get them on a team but they mean nothing.

    And his mid-range game has dissapeared. It’s a big part of his weapon, but it’s sucked this season. He’s shooting it like Gil was before he got traded. He’s just nonchalantly shooting. You got to be in rhythm and step into it. He’s probably lost confidence too.

     

     

     

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  • #494418
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    And I agree with Da1pot. Blatche doesn’t have a low baskeball I.Q. He just plays lazy and tries to do too much sometimes.

    Throughout the year, he’s looked out of shape, rusty, unsure of himself, and has kind of a gut because of the foot injury, which has limited his quickness and lift (and you have to take this stuff into account because he isn’t a physicical player). He mainly scores on people by blowing by them with his quickness, but he hasn’t been able to do that this season. And when he can’t get by his man, he usually settles for heavily contested jumpshots. He’s regressed this year, but IMO, it looks like he’s shedded the extra weight, so I can see him playing well from here on out.

    He has to try to be a difference maker though. He’s just out there on the court. It started making me sick when Gil started doing that and now he’s is the same way. You are getting paid alot of money. You cant just cruise through games. Dont you have any passion or self pride? No one respects your game like that. Even your stats mean nothing. Its just stats because someone has to get them on a team but they mean nothing.

    And his mid-range game has dissapeared. It’s a big part of his weapon, but it’s sucked this season. He’s shooting it like Gil was before he got traded. He’s just nonchalantly shooting. You got to be in rhythm and step into it. He’s probably lost confidence too.

     

     

     

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