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  • #68810
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    HobbyOG
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     I don’t understand this move by Noel when the Lakers wanted him..He could of started for the Lakers, be on TV more, look good playing aside Bron etc. etc. But picked OKC where he’ll get zero touches and come off the bench behind Adams. His agent has screwed him twice, first time not signing that huge deal with Dallas now this…and the crazy part is,  his agent his Bron’s homeboy..

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  • #1121209
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    BasterdInABasket
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     How much $? I saw two year with second yr player option

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    • #1121221
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      HobbyOG
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      Has to be mininium, Thunder have no money! 

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  • #1121212
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    celtics1982
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     Really his agent needs to be fired. Turns down a massive extension, then passes on a better opportunity for what a little more money? He needs to start if he wants to get a massive payday and the Lakers offered him a much better chance at that. He seemed like a perfect fit there. He’d be there only defensive rim protecting center.

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    • #1121216
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       why should he fire his agent? he already fired the agent who turend down the 70 mill 4 year offer. His current agent knowns damn well the former agent fucked up and this current agent would do anything in his power to get noel the contrtact offer back. So why should he fire his agent I ask?

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      • #1121220
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         Is the agent that had him sign his tender offer last year. If the Mavs offered 4 year 70 million in July, why wouldn’t you revisit that? So while his first agent turned it down, so did his current agent. No way the Mavs offer 70 million, then won’t offer anything else. His former agent said in a tweet Paul never revisited that with Mavs. Which makes sense because Noels signed his offering 4 days after getting Paul. Now has him turning down better fits and playing time.

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        • #1121223
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          llperez

           this was discussed in great length last year. His former agent fucked up. He turned down the big deal. He hired a new agent. The big deal was gone and no longer avaiable. They advised him since he turned down the big deal to take a one year and hope for best. He lost. His current agency had ZERO to do with him not getting the big deal

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          • #1121226
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             His new agent didn’t try. That’s the issue. If he spent weeks trying to get a deal and couldn’t ok, but he didn’t. Four days after Paul was hired he had Noel sign his offer sheet. This is the same agent with a history of players sitting out till they got big deal like Thompson and Smith.

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            • #1121227
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              llperez

               dude, again this was real common knowledge back then and something very easy to look up which I just did before replying. Noel turned down a 4 year 70 mill deal. He hired a new agency but they told him immediately the only way they could get him more then the 18 mil a year his previous agent got him was if he went into the next year as a free agent which he agreed to do and now hes here wheres hes at. Thats not his current agencies fault at all. Its him and his formaer agencies fault. 

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              • #1121229
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                 Why did he need more? I would have had him take 60 million at that point, which is my whole point. His current agent turned down a chance at a massive payday. Everyone new this market was going to be horrible this year. Not the year you bet on getting more than 70 million. The agents job is to protect the player from himself and they didn’t. Neither of them did. Nevermind Noel has never once looked like a max guy. This reminds me of Smart thinking he’s worth 20 plus million.

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                • #1121231
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                  llperez

                   dude were you not listening last year when this all went down? His new/current agent told him form day one if you do not want the contract the mavs are offering and you insist that you are max, then the only thing i can do for you is tell you to wait the year out. There is no other way that I could get you the 18 mill per year that your previous agent already put into your hand. Noel told him thats what he wanted.

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                  • #1121237
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                     The agents job is to help his client get the best deal and to tell him when he’s being stupid. I don’t care what Noel wanted. How don’t you get that? I would have walked away from Noel if he wouldn’t take that deal if I was an agent. Either you sign it or find another agent, you won’t get better. The agents job is to protect the player from himself. Yet Paul was like ok no problem, that’s being a bad agent!!

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                    • #1121239
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                      llperez

                       your very first comment was that noels current agent "turned down a massive extension"… no he didnt, that extension was turned down by noel and his previous agent. The extension never existed with noels current agent. Just admit you were wrong which you are

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                • #1121238
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                   Just doesnt work like that. Agents arent salesmen they are negotiators. They cannot generate interest they can only feild offers and negotiate with teams that are already interested. If they have good relationships with a front office and good history with prior deals then they can make suggestions and possibly the slightest chance a team will listen but he cant just make a guy on his way out of his league a $70 million contract.

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                  • #1121246
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                     Agents are the ultimate salesmen imo

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                    • #1121464
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                      celtics1982
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                       That’s the issue here, he told him what he wanted to hear, not what he needed to hear. Now Noel might not even make 70 million for the rest of his career.

                      Fact first agent turned it down, fact second agent had him also turn it down because Noel wanted more. He got horrible advice twice. When your new agent has you sign a contract tender when a huge offer is on the table, that is turning it down!

                       

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  • #1121213
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     I figured Washington would’ve been his ideal situation. They need an athletic big. Will he start at the 4 or backup Adams in OKC? 

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  • #1121217
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     Apparently it’s for a minimum deal which is quite interesting if he’s trying to increase his value given he won’t be getting a ton of minutes. He pretty much had 30 minutes a night locked down if he choose the Wizards and would greatly benefit from catching lobs from John Wall. Additionally because of Washington’s terrible help D he’d have a ton of opportunities to rack up shot blocks. 

     

     

     

     

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  • #1121235
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    Doesn’t make sense at all why he did it but I like the fit for us. The only rim protector we had on the bench last season was Jerami Grant so this fills in a big need, as long as he’s able to play.

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    • #1121248
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       Its certainly not the best fit, but it is a fit at least. The only big men on OKC roster are Adams, Dakari Johnson and Pat Patterson…he should easily assume the backup PF/C minutes, and he’ll still be looking at a solid 20-25min/gm to crash the boards, block shots and catch lobs

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  • #1121240
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    Choppy
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     Better playing in OKC than being LeBron’s b!tch in LA. 

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  • #1121242
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     Man am I the only one that realizes Nerlens Noel has been horrible and he’s lucky anyone even offered him a contract. I mean seriously. He plays less every year and not just minutes but games as well.

     In Dallas they decided to cut his minutes in attempts to gradually bring him back to being healthy and slide him into a fulltime rotation and the dude plays 30 games.

    In Philly he acted like an idiot trashed his rental home partying like he was a college student on spring break.

    The worst part of this is he doesnt even play well. He’s weak, has no post game, has no shot, improved as a free throw shooter I’ll give him that and is foul prone. Hes a good athlete that can block shots as a help defender but I just dont see what people like about him.

    I hope he turns it around but the effort has just been way too inconsistent and he isnt durable enough or improving in his years with the NBA. OKC got an end of the bench player that plays on losing teams.

     

     

     

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  • #1121250
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    Extremely surprised he didn’t end up in Boston.

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  • #1121256
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    This works for him for the following reasons: He will get guaranteed minutes at least 10-20 a game I guess and would be our center off the bench(to spell Adams) and OKC bigs coach will support him and help his development as long as he buys in to it(see Adams and Kanter). Russell and PG will try help him out to. The other thing is if he turns his rep around he may just get a little more money next contract extention time.

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    Lakers who had Javal Mcgee who does exact same things as him. The Lakers are probably going to try get cousins or bring in another big. Meaning Noel’s minutes would be pretty low if any at all or he would be the 3rd maybe even 4th big off the bench..

    If he had chosen to go anywhere else the Wizards on more money and a starting role would have gotten it done.

     

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  • #1121278
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     For a guy with his injury record to turn down or be advised to turn down $70 million over 4 years with Dallas was one of the stupidest moves ever. Apart from the money he had a Championship winning coach, Dirk and Barnes alongside him who had won titles. If his offensive game couldn’t have improved playing alongside Dirk then I don’t know how else it can.

    He has got onto a decent side with one top 5 NBA player and another pushing for top 10 so isn’t in a bad situation and might get fed some easy baskets. But he needs a good year to get a future deal.

     

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