[lalailaParticipant]

I heard LeBron had avg 33/10/8 and Heat went 12-1 in the past season(or two) with out Wade, that was a nice proof LeBron is much better now than in Cleveland..

where i could find that type of stats, it would be interesting to see like what Westbrook is w/o Durant too and so on..

thanks

[Bird_YearsParticipant]

Even though you asked for just the past two seasons here’s the stats since Lebron came to Miami:

Wade has missed 23 regular season games since Lebron came to Miami that Lebron played in (He actually missed more but sometimes Lebron sat as well). Of those 23 games the Heat won 19 and lost 4 which equals a 82.6% winning or 68 games won in a regular season, so very very good.

During those games that Wade missed Lebron averaged 30 PTS, 7 ASTS and 7 REB, while shooting 54.2%
Which is slightly better than when Wade was on: 26 PTS, 7 ASTS and 8 REB while shooting 53.1 %

For just the past two seasons, when Wade sat and Lebron played they went 16-2 (89% or 73 games in a full season). Lebron’s stats are almost identical in these games except he score 2.5 PTS more per game.

I don’t think proof was needed that Lebron is better now than he was in Cleveland but I think it’s safe to assume that Lebron can still carry a team by himself (although you could argue Bosh is better than any help he had in Cleveland)

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Than this is the site:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/

You can look up individual games played and while I do not know if it will directly show the games LeBron played without Wade, you can look them up and score it yourself. Plus, it will let you automatically add up separate segments of games. They have shot charts, head-to-head finder (look under "play index") and lots of cool stuff as far as basketball statistics. I believe the game log is updated until the NBA-ABA merger at this point and while the later ones are more points than overall statistics, still very awesome.

Here was the info I found on Westbrook without Durant:

Game Dates missed by Kevin Durant since Russell Westbrook has been in the NBA:

2008-09 November 12, Feb 28, Mar 2, Mar 4, Mar 7, Mar 8, Mar 10, Mar 11

2010-11 November 19, 20 December 1, 3

Westbrook’s rookie season (2008-09)

1st game -KD: 30 minutes, 13 points, 3-19 FG, 5 boards, 4 assists L

During KD’s 7 game absence from Feb 28-Mar 11: 35.2 mpg, 17.7 ppg, 5.4 rpg (1.6 orpg), 5.3 apg, 40.5% FG, team went 5-2 (solid for a team that was 12-46 until that point)

Westbrook’s third season (2010-11)

4 games without KD: 37.8 mpg, 37/90 FG (41%, 22.5 FGA), 31/37 FT (83%, 9.3 FTA), 6.3 rpg (1.8 orpg) 26.8 ppg, 7 apg, 5 topg, 1.8 spg, team went 3-1 and were 55-27 on the year

 

For those who do not know, Russell Westbrook has never missed an NBA contest, so the only statistics we have with KG minus Westbrook are from his rookie season or the few minutes they are not on the court together. Really, the statistics above are pretty inconclusive, though one could guess if Russell Westbrook was asked to be "the man" on a team, he would put up numbers even greater than he does now. The issue would be making that team into a contender, which I think most can agree they would rather build around Kevin Durant than Russ. Still, check out basketball-reference. It took me a while to find it (comparing games to KD’s individual seasons to see which he missed, than looking up the games for Russ), but if you want to try and find the exact stats for LeBron games minus Wade yourself, that would be the website I would suggest.

 

[Bird_YearsParticipant]

sorry, I forgot to add that I got all my data from basketball-reference.com as well, thanks for adding that Mikey. I also like it because the site isn’t very flashy so I can go on it at work and people aren’t sure what I’m up to.

I usually download game logs in .csv format and get my stuff that way. If you don’t like using Excel that won’t work very well for you though

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