[gatorheelsParticipant]

Georgia Tech beat Mercer today by 11 points.  James Florence (guard) for Mercer scored 40 points! I wonder who was guarding him? Derrick Favors & Lawal both had very effecient games by looking at the box score.  They both shot a very high percentage from the field.  Favors had 16 points 8 rebounds & 4 blocks.  Lawal had 15 points & 10 rebounds.

What is with all the upsets lately?  The last couple days have surprised me some.  Marquette beat Michigan today.  Yesterday Texas A&M beat Clemson, Minnesota beat Butler, Alabama beat Baylor, Portalnd beat UCLA, Houston beat Oklahoma!!!.  

The freshamn Rodney Williams (Minnesota) that is getting so much hype lately only played 3 minutes according to the box score.  What happened to him (hurt maybe)?

Marquette is now 6-0.  I thought this team would have a down year after losing McNeal, Matthews, & Dominic James.  How is this team winning?

What is wrong with Oklahoma?  They are now 2-3, that is awful.  

UCLA is garbage right now. 

I’m watching Tennessee vs. College of Charleston right now.  Scotty Hopson is putting on a show. 

[JNixonParticipant]

In the GT game, which I watched, Shumpert, D’Andre Bell (who did the best after they kind made adjustments) and Udofia were attempting to guard him lol. But Favors made some wow plays, and Lawal was all over the place on the low block. Favors has all the ability in the world, and I think he’ll hit stride in a few games. He’s gotten better after every game. Talk about a menace on the offensive glass? Lawal and Favors are ridiculous at that.

Oklahoma….I remember saying that they would be the 3rd team in the Big 12 and that Willie Warren wouldn’t make them a winner (although he’s a GREAT prospect) and I got chewed for it. He who laughs last laughs the hardest.

Scotty Hopson is a nice little prospect for 2011. He has the potential to be a J.R. Smith type. But I watched him against Purdue the other day and he didn’t stand out as much. They were very smart on D against Tennessee.

UCLA is raw right now, but they will be good next year and at the end of the year. Just watch. But no, they are not a tourny team this year. Barring a crazy run in the Conference tourny.

[QHaynes20]

Duke is 6-0. The Front Line is still average but Kelly and Plumlee (Miles) will the athletic guys and Thomas and Z will be the hustle guys. Mason Plumlee will be the guy to score.

I want too see more from Michigan, I feel there a bit fools gold.

Marquette reminds me of a really good mid major…watch out.

[gatorheelsParticipant]

I hate Duke. I left them out of the discussion on purpose lol.  They are off to a great start though.   

[gatorheelsParticipant]

Wesley Johnson is balling tonight also.  It is midway through the 2nd half & he has like 26 points, 3 rebs, 3 assists, & 2 steals.  He has surprised me.  Really improved since his days at Iowa St.  Hard work pays off.  I’m not sure if I like him as a lottery pick yet though.  I still need to watch him play more.

[ChosenOneParticipant]

I feel you gatorheel I’m not quite ready either to jump on wesley johnsons bandwagon either even though its deep. I need to see him play some more tougher competiton before I jump him into the lottery like this site is doing.

[JNixonParticipant]

Yea Johnson is a totally different player than he was at ISU. I was wondering why he was getting hyped up by fans at Cuse prior to the season, because I remembered him being an above average player but not really a NBA prospect. He’s a top 10 or possibly top5 pick as of now.

[QHaynes20]

I have to say. Kentucky reminds me of that Maryland team who won the title. I don’t think they will be a pull away team against real competition.

UCLA will be great come the end of the season. I do feel they need a recruit one of the top PG left (Knight, Selby, Joesph) because Malcolm Lee is not a PG to me.

[llperez]

Oregon St lost to Sacramento St, my alma mater. UCLA gets routed by Portalnd. The confernece is garbage. The only consolation I can take is that I knew this was the worst the conference has been in a while. UCLA had 5 top 50 recruits last year in what was the number 1 recruting class in the nation. Holiday left, but the rest don’t look very good. Malcolm Lee is playing okay, but not looking like a guy ready to lead a team. This year’s class had 4 top 100 recruits, but only Reeves Nelson is doing anything at all. Their only returning starter has been arrested twice this year for fighting and has been suspended. They are bad.

[QHaynes20]

Yea, but I think Ben Howland will fix that. The team looks lost. Most of thier guys are Freshman or Sophomores who did not play alot last year

[MkadozaParticipant]

The Big East’s strength has really shined through in the non conference schedule. Not just Marquette, UConn, Cuse, Pitt and Louisville all lost key cogs. However all of these teams get good recruits, some more raw than others, and with the growth of some of those young players, this conference looks overall better than last year, and definitely looks like the top conference.

[gatorheelsParticipant]

Looks like Florida is about to upset Michigan St.  

[QHaynes20]

How come Billy D not on the hotseat?

[quincey hodges]

why would he be on the hot seat?

[JNixonParticipant]

Yea Donovan will not be on the hot seat anytime soon…and they beat Michigan State just now.

[QHaynes20]

I saw that…ESPN had it the other way on the bottomline. Still, I feel he gotta make the NCAA Tourney this year or the seat may get warm IMO

[gatorheelsParticipant]

Haha no way QHaynes.  He is one of only 3 active coaches with multiple NCAA championships.  Florida is going to make the NCAA tourney this year, easily.

[gatorheelsParticipant]

Plus what is the deal with Rodney Willaims (Minnesota)?  This site is hyping him ridiculously.  I have also heard a few other people on here already jumping on his bandwagon.  He did absolutely nothing against Butler & he isn’t doing anything against Portland tonight.  

[QHaynes20]

Gator- We say that now. We never know. I believe they might. Remember G-Town started 10-1 and actually won many big games then missed the tourney.

Rodney Williams is not a 2010 prospect. So I don’t care right now. He will have off games. He is a freshman.

[JNixonParticipant]

He’s really just a freak athlete with the ability to guard all kinds of positions in the NBA…he’s a 2011 or possibly 2012 prospect though ideally.

[QHaynes20]

My thing is this: Has the William Buford hype died yet? I remember he was supposed to be a lotto pick similar to Ray Allen

[JNixonParticipant]

He was never that good yet, he’s also a 2012 type prospect. The hype on here can get premature when they try to find a diamond in the rough. I’ve noticed that. I think they want to say they found out about a prospect before they actually get blown up by other websites or the media or whatever. But thats cool though

[QHaynes20]

Iggy…are u gonna be on the show this week?

Also, I agree. Sometimes, there are reasons these guys aren’t really hyped up. Guys like Rodney Williams and William Buford need time. I know some more players that will get some hype in the near future…we all need to slow down.

[JNixonParticipant]

Yea I planned on being on the show…Lucas told me to be ready the other day

[QHaynes20]

alright…we dont even have a run sheet yet. When we have one, ill send it 2 u

[JNixonParticipant]

That will do, thanks..

[lalailaParticipant]

all i need to say about NCAA for now..
D.Favors- yes Wall is no.1 but he is SECOND and please no talks about bust..25mpg(just) 14ppg8rpg2bpg i believe he will play 30(just because he needs it) and he will be around 20/10/3 and this is next to another double double guy
same with Davis he is getting better he shows his defense strongly don’t know about offense he won’t avg 20 imo but he is getting better there also…
AND Xavier Henry has veeery bright future

[gatorheelsParticipant]

Wow…Miss St. lost again last night.  They are struggling big time.  Renardo Sidney to the rescue?  They need him asap.  Anybody heard any news about his eligibility.  I would hate to see him miss the entire season.  I was looking forward to seeing him play.  

Arkansas is losing on a regular basis to weak teams now too. They have a few key players that are suspended & I’m not sure when they will return. The SEC west looks really weak at the moment.  Ole Miss has to be licking their chops because it looks like they could run away with the West divsion.   

[lalailaParticipant]

can’t wait to see Renardo

[JNixonParticipant]

That Fortson dude for Arkansas is a beast. But he’s one of those guys that’s suspended, and he was the heart and soul of the team too, so I can see how they would suck. And they lost another valuable player in Stefan Welsh who did a little of everything.

[quincey hodges]

i think sydney has the chance to be the number 2 pick if he plays and does well. hes the most talented and has the highest potential of all the players in college because of his size and ability for his size. Some one like that will always have the highest potential although it doesnt always pan out.

[lalailaParticipant]

I like it quincey, i’m too shy to say that this guy has #1 pick potential but finnaly someone did something similar. i thought that i’m only with so big hopes from this super-talented kid.

[QHaynes20]

I disagree. I think the whole past issues may move him down a bit. Yea his upside his amazing. I said before he could be a potential top 5 pick along with Lance but now:

Teams will not want headaches. Why take Syndey over a Favors, Davis, Turner or John Henson?

To be Honest-John Henson has IMO the most potential

[quincey hodges]

qhaynes i understand where you are coming from but teams dont really care about that too much anymore if the player can play..you see how many teams are kicking there selfs because of not taking jennings. alot of talk was how much of a headach he was too. then look at beasy. utah was still trying to trade for him after the whole offseason thing he did. pretty much if you are good enough and have enough potential teams are willing to take a chance because its all about keeping youre job and getting wins. as far as henson im not sure he has more potential. theres not one area that henson can get better at that sydney cant and sydney is already a better shooter,passer and more physical and better foot work

[lalailaParticipant]

everyone has opinion..so mine is: no way i would take Henson over Sidney, sorry..if Jennings could be star from day one under Skiles, why can’t Sidney be a high pick

[JNixonParticipant]

I also think Wall and Henson have more and/or just as much potential as Sidney. Wall could develop into a dominant PG in the NBA as he has alot of Dwyane Wade in him. He’s a combo guard more than a true PG, but he’ll develop his PG skills to be decent. I can see it.

John Henson has the ability to defend PG-PF’s in the NBA. He’s raw right now, but he’s got some impressive skills for such a raw player. He could develop into a SF/PF that has PG skills and the ability to be a HUGE matchup nightmare. He just needs more weight and an improved jumper. But he’s extremely high upside, and I could see him being one of the best players in the NBA in the future with his skill set and size.

Sidney honestly reminds me of Eddy Curry with more range on his jumper. That’s from what I’ve seen. He’s extremely gifted, and will probably have big seasons in the NBA, but he’s a poor defender and rebounder just like Curry and he has those same conditioning problems. He’s definitely has top 5 talent, and I would bet that that’s where he gets picked, but I think he’ll be a underachiever relative to his draft spot and potential.

[quincey hodges]

i feel you on the as much potential..cant agree that henson can defend pg-pf in the nba when he cant even defend his own position right now. potentially maybe but right now no.. way i dont give wall the same potential is if you put people with equal ability next to each other but one is much taller then the other then you take the other. not sure how you can think sydney is a poor defender when he hasnt had any one dominate him on the hs level and hasnt played college ball yet but once asgain youre opinion. personally im just not as high on henson as some other because hes far off from being able to contribute even on the college level right now. i see people like to see the tall guy whos skinny and could potentially play small foward because they want to see the next but most of the time they never pan out. too be honest i like that kid perry jones muccch more then henson since he looks more of a natural sf then henson even though hes still in hs

[quincey hodges]

damn i actually like that comparision except daye was farther alone as a sf at this point but that is damn good

[SlimParticipant]

Austin Daye> John Henson

just saying quincey said all the right things in that post

[JNixonParticipant]

Mike Beasley never got dominated in HS on D either, neither did Kevin Love. Both of them are poor defenders. Remember how you said all the stuff goes out the window in HS when you play college ball? Same thing here. He has too much size to get dominated by regular HS competition, but when he played against a big man with size, such as Favors and Cousins in the McDonald’s Game, he showed how poor a defender he was. Favors won the MVP and missed like 1 shot the whole game, and Cousins also had a good statline. I don’t know that anyone thinks he’s good defender, nevert heard anyone say that Sidney was a good defender a single time in my life. EVER. Neither have I seen him make plays on D in any games I’ve seen him play

And for his size and length, he’s a terrible rebounder just like Curry. Never heard that get refuted either.

Henson is raw. I have said that, That’s why he has so much “potential.” He isn’t ready for the NBA now, but give him next season and possibly 2012, and he’ll be a menace on D and very versatile. He has every single tool needed to be a good defender minus the strength that will come as he matures.

[lalailaParticipant]

Wall>Henson
Sidney>Henson
Favors>Henson
Daye???? what??? can’t agree. if Henson won’t reach his potential, he still has athleticism and shot-blocking ability.

[JNixonParticipant]

John Henson is more like Lamar Odom than anything else. Daye is a shooter, while shooting is the weakest part on Henson’s game. Henson is also alot quicker and more athletic than Daye is. The only similarity between them is that their both tall and skinny for wing players.

[SlimParticipant]

Daye played against in my high school tournament he actually played the (1-4 on offense)

I think Henson is a nice player and all but I see a lot of growing pains b4 he can actually be effective on defense and offense at the SF position at any level

[lalailaParticipant]

but same Beasley still was 2nd pick and now going to be very good player..when you are SO talented on offense some defence problems can’t make you 2rounder or something..

[quincey hodges]

exactly so what proof is there that sydney is a bad defender?..at this point hes no bad a defender then any of the other freshmen right?..i can understand a opinion from what someone has seen but if none of us have seen his defense against college comp then how can we say his defense is bad? ive never heard any one say henson is a good defender either does that mean he isnt?..i have heard that hes very very raw and that he “could” be a sf in the future but isnt one right now as far as defense in mikey ds game come on be serious. rarely anyone plays any type of defense in that gam,e thats why the scores are so high. thats like saying someone cant play d in the nba because someone scored alot on them in the all star game. come on

[SlimParticipant]

Offensively
yeah i was thinking about that plus Daye is a bit longer at 6’11, and has always been taught to shoot the ball

that being said Henson will not be a very physical player until he gets to at least 210, Odom is 230

[quincey hodges]

odom in hs was already talked about being able to play alot of positions and came in and did just that as a freshman. on this unc team as a freshman he would be starting at that sf spot..henson right now is just potential just like alot of guys who never reached it. he was a pf/c in hs and plays mostly pf in college (when he does actually play) and is even listed at pf. im not sure i remeber anyone starting out so low and ending up being great. hes closer to marvin williams then odom

[JNixonParticipant]

Go on any draft website that has a profile on John Henson, and you’d never find anything that says Henson plays “absolutely zero” defense the way it says that about Sidney. I’ve seen and heard Henson play good D, even in some of UNC’s games. I guess if your trying to make an argument that Renardo Sidney is a good defender, I can’t say anything more than what I have already said. WHich is what everyone except you knows, and that is that he’s not a good defender at all.

[SlimParticipant]

I think the NBA is becoming a boy’s league, just call me Rasheed Wallace

thetruth says John Henson is not ready

[JNixonParticipant]

Austin Daye is more like Marvin Williams. I think Henson plays much more like Odom than Williams. Once again, the only comparison between the two is that they’re tall for wing players.

[quincey hodges]

those are the same sites that say bj mullans was gonna dominate. you gotta understand that predicting how some one is gonna play defense because of how they played it in college doesn’t make much sense. especially when you are so good and get bored with the game. i didnt say hes a good or bad defender because just like you and other draft sites i dont know becauser he hasn’t played college ball yet. i havn’t seen anyone compare him to eddy curry or anyone close to that. but ive also seen websites say a kid is comparable to a nab star yet never make the nba. and henson hasnt played enough to be consider very good at anything. ive watched his games too and ive seen him get banged around because hes too light. i cant compare him to randolph,odom or other good freshmen in the past that were around his size since all of them came in and earned alot of time. and some freshmen like williams who came off the bench had other nba or very good players in front of them. at the sf spot henson has will graves in front of him.

[quincey hodges]

plus i dont like going by what other sites or people say i go more on what ive seen. alot of people heard henson was killing as a sf in preseason and thought he was gonna do all of that when the season started. season started and he doesn’t play much and when he does hes comming in mostly at the pf spot

[quincey hodges]

and whats the comparision with odom and henson?..odom as a freshman started,handled the ball alot, went coast to coast hit threes and was the number one option on his team. he would do all that on this unc team . maybe be number 2 at worst. how is any of what henson has done comparable to odom?

[JNixonParticipant]

The comparison I just read for Sidney was Derrick Caracter and Antoine Walker….I’ll give you list of these comparisons that have been made by people hthat have obviously watched him more than you and me both on DraftExpress.com:

“he needs to focus on becoming a tougher and more serious player. With his tools, he could become a very good player both in college and at the NBA level, but a greater degree of focus is needed from him. As one scout put it “with a lot of the bigs in the 09 class, you are reminded of Eddy Curry one too many times.” There’s someone who agrees. I’m telling you, don’t expect Sidney to be a good defender in college or the NBA.

“His game reminds of Antoine Walker in the later stages of his career, and you really have to wonder if whatever production he can manage to scrounge together at the college level is worth it considering the baggage involved.

“Defensively, Sidney showed very little focus and effort, tending to pick up fouls rather than guarding the post. The big man also showed a poor understanding of how to guard the pick and roll. On the glass, he didn’t box out or use his extra bulk at all, and showed very little fight at all, being outworked multiple times by the international bigs. ”

“He played zero defense, was not anywhere near as much of a factor on the glass as you might think relative to his outstanding hands and instincts, and showed questionable shot-selection and conditioning. ”

” He shot a lot of turnaround jumpers in the lone game we saw him, played absolutely zero defense and generally did his best Antoine Walker/Derrick Caracter impression. ”

“Looking at the way he executes plays, it doesn’t really look like he wants to be out there for the most part, and you’ll see that with the non-existent effort he puts in regarding everything else besides his scoring. Defensively would be the main one, not even attempting to put a body on his man half the time. His conditioning is pretty poor as well, leading him to call his own substitutions whenever he pleases from what we saw from the bench, entering and exiting the game virtually whenever he pleases. ”

“However, he doesn’t care too much for defense or at least he didn’t seem to in this game. In all fairness, lazy defending seemed to be a common trait today as many players were trying to establish themselves on the offensive end more than hustling to get back on defense. ”

Those are all the sources on that one websites about his D and rebounding.

[JNixonParticipant]

The comparison is based on how he plays. Henson hasn’t done what Marvin Williams or Austin Daye has done either, so I really don’t get those comparisons you made to them either if you wanna be honest. Especially when consider that they don’t play anything alike at all. He has all the tools to develop into a Lamar Odom type player, there’s a reason he was touted so highly coming into college. If you’ve seen him play you would see that he has alot of skills that he has that are rarely seen with guys his size. Odom has those same skills, albeit much more polished, but Henson has the potential to develop into a Lamar Odom type player.

[quincey hodges]

didn;t me and you just agree on how you cant say how good or bad a person’s defense is by what they did in hs?..and arent what the websites wrote from highschool? ive seen henson play…my ex’s son goes to sicle which is where henson went to hs. he was a pf ..rarely brough the ball full court liek odom did in hs. stayed on the block. henson in my opinion doesn’t have the abilities odom had in hs. people are hoping he can become a sf. and yeah henson hasnt done what daye or williams has done but hes alot closer to them then odom. saying henson is close to odom is setting the bar wayyyy to high. a person has to get to lower level players or show they can be as good as lower level players before we can compare them to higher level players. people (sites are to blame a lil) always want to compare a unproven young kid to a very good nba player. how often do they ever come to being as good? rare. more times then not they end up like the lower level nba player. especially those who dodnt even make much of a deference in college

[JNixonParticipant]

You’re making it like Lamar Odom is just the sh!t that can’t be flushed! That’s not out of reach for him at all for him to accomplish what Odom has. Have you seen him play before? Ever? You seriously are making it like he will never be good or develop into a player that can fill a stat sheet and is not quite an All-Star, which is what Odom does. If you don’t see that he can develop into that, maybe you should look harder. He’ll break out next year probably but he’s a big talent.

Who didn’t play PF or C in HS that’s 6’10??? That doesn’t mean he’s not going to be a SF in the future, especially when you consider he played PG/SG before he had a monster growth spurt. He’s played PF on offense and defended a backcourt or wing player every single game I’ve watched this year..

Hensons nothing at all like Austin Daye or Marvin Williams. I simply don’t see that comparison at all, if you have watched him play this year you would see that too. Both of them are shooters, Henson is not a shooter at all.

And no, I didn’t agree that you can’t throw all the stuff in HS out the window, especially when it has proven to be true, by EVERYONE that’s seen him play, numerous times, except you. He will never be confused for a good defender, and possibly won’t be a good rebounder. Unless he’s done a 360 as far as his skills are concerned since the summer. Which I highly doubt.

[quincey hodges]

im not saying odom is the shit but hes better then daye and williams and williams and daye are better then henson so does it really make sense to compare a player who isnt even as good as those 2 to someone who is better then those 2? and what do you take more seriously?..what someone does in highschool or what they do in college? ive watched henson play in college and hs and he has done nothing that is like how odom did or does now

[quincey hodges]

and theres a difference between playing pf and c in hs and playing that but also playing other positions.. odom played pf but he also played small foward and took the ball cost to coast and started the offense. henson didn’t. even randolph did that…i mean youre more then welcome to just go by what websites say instead of waiting to see with youre own eyes but thats just not me. especially since these same websites say this or that guy is comparable to this or that nba star but they never end up being nearly as good more times then not. also melo was talked about how bad his defense was in in college and hs but hes become a good one now right?..you talk like no one can get better at defense after hs?..what sense does it make to say henson can get better at sf but sydney is as far as hes gonna go on defense? and how you figure he wont be a good rebounder?..he was actually a better rebounder in hs then henson (since you take hs in account) as well as a better shooter and scorer

[quincey hodges]

and although none of us can predict the future i think sydney wont be comming off then bench and putting up better numbers while looking more ready then henson does. like i said before it makes alot more sense to compare some one to a lower level player when they haven’t even proven anything yet then to a higher level player

[QHaynes20]

I still think we should be waiting. I do not see Syndey coming up and breaking out that fast.

Plus, What draft would he be a top 5 pick? Not this one. I do not see it.

[quincey hodges]

i just checked out what the websites think of him since you keep bring up websites

John Henson, North Carolina – Roy Williams continues to nab the nation’s best big men in recruiting. Henson looks very familiar to the Golden State Warriors’ Brandon Wright with a slight frame that doesn’t even top the 200 lb. mark. Like the aforementioned Favors he has the versatility to play either forward spot but is best off at the four spot. There are many who expect Henson to be a part of the 2011 draft class since the Tar Heels are so loaded inside this year. Despite their depth inside though Henson will find time as he’s too talented to leave off the floor. He and Davis will make it extremely tough for teams inside as they’re both tough on the glass and take pride in defending the rim. If Henson decides to enter the 2010 draft there’s no way he’ll fall outside the lottery.

F John Henson (Round Rock, TX; Franchize All-Stars; Rivals #5)

Coming in at 6-10, 200 pounds (I think the weight may be a tad inflated) the North Carolina commit has the athletic ability to make his mark on a game. Possessing extremely long arms, Henson can get across the lane on defense to either block or alter opposing teams’ shots. His back to the basket game is decent for a player of his build, something that will only improve as his body matures and fills out.

John also does a good job of attacking the offensive glass, but he needs to be more assertive in regards to defensive rebounding. Combined with the Wear twins and whichever experienced bigs remain in Chapel Hill, head coach Roy Williams won’t be lacking interior options in 2009.

yeah he has the potential to be a sf but at this point he is a pf. so i cant compare him to odom yet since he isnt a sf. odom was already considered a combo foward at this point in his career. once henson starts showing me he can play sf other then in practice and do very well at it then i will compare him to who ever he seems to play like

[quincey hodges]

like you just said qhaynes we will have to wait and see.. no one is solid at being a certain pick now and prob wont be after the season. that changes almost daily once draft time rolls around plus it depends on where someone is drafting. my opinion is sydney will be a higher pick then henson if they both come out and i think he will be a better player. just my opinion

[QHaynes20]

We will see my man.

QH what is your take on Manny Harris and Elliot Williams? I feel both can be 2010 1st round picks.

Also can this comparison be fair? Lance Stephenson- Micheal Finley

[quincey hodges]

i like both of them…alot. i think both will drop because of there size but they will make people kick there self for doing that. those guys are players and i like players. was very happy when i found out elliot was transferring from duke since i dont like duke and he would have gave maryland problems. hopefully elliot wait at least one more year before coming out

[JNixonParticipant]

You just are looking for all the reasons to say that Sidney isn’t a good defender. It has been stated over and over, endless amount of times. And you still won’t except it. I don’t understand why you just won’t admit it, since it’s obviously true. I gave you plenty of proof and you still won’t admit it. I just give up on that. I’m sorry man.

Henson hasn’t brought the ball up the floor yet, but he has the ability too. UNC relies on a PG to bring the ball up the court, LSU has who at PG wtih Randolph? WHo was the point guard with Odom at Rhode Island? UNC may not have the best PG’s but they are good enough to where they don’t have to have a frontcourt player bringing the ball up. I mean, when is the last time someone other than the PG at UNC set up the offense? But I’ve seen Henson go court to coast before, yes it was in a HS all-star event, but I don’t see why he couldn’t in college if need be. That’s one apart of his skill-set that makes him similar to Odom. He’ll show it sooner or later too. If you don’t think he can and will, you need to wake up.

I don’t see Renardo Sidney being a good defender. If he is, you can rub it in my face and make posts about it everyday like you do when you think your right about everything else and I won’t say anything about it..

John Diebler, Tweety Carter and Rotnei Clark scored more than Henson did in HS too, but are they better prospects? No. Dallas Lauderdale and Jeremy Price at UGA rebounded more than him, does that mean there better prospects too? No. HS stats don’t mean much when in college, but the upside and talent they show determine how well a player projects for college and beyond. And Henson obviously projects for the NBA better than those I named above.

[quincey hodges]

so if it was stated over and over back when he was in hs then that means henson wont be more then just a power foward since that was stated most of the time when he was in highschool right?..cuz you cant just pick and chose what translates to college and what doesnt if you are gonna go by what someone did in hs

[lalailaParticipant]

actually i agree that Sidney isn’t defensive player BUT his size let him get rebounds and blocks and that is not ZERO there is Beasley, Antawn, Amare who’s not perfect defenders but big time players in this league, offcourse there is Odom, Randolph and Henson could be another one, but as while those two has same huge potential and Sidney is way closer to that level NOW IMO i would take him easily

[quincey hodges]

and i dont know what those other guys did in hs but sydney is better then all of those guys as well as henson and in my opinion will be a better pro. the thing about sydney is scouts say and from watching him, is that he has the tools to do things right now. henson right now is just potential and a maybe. he could go one way or he could go another. alot of people never end up being close to as good as what people potentially think they could be. all potential is is a maybe

[JNixonParticipant]

Your right, I, meaning ME, can’t pick and choose, but when he gets to college some things just don’t translate. They pick and choose for themselves per say. It’s happening to Henson right now. He functioned as someone who played the low post in HS. That’s not going to translate inn college ball, considering his size and stength, or lack thereof. The same way someone scoring 50 ppg in HS won’t translate to college. Or just being taller than the HS competition a player faces and blocking a bunch of shots doesn’t translate. You have to be an extremely special player for those things to translate without making any adjustments to your game.With that said, Henson’s production in HS hasn’t translated to college ball much at all, but that doesn’t mean that it won’t eventually. Especially when you consider the only things that don’t have a chance to translate to college from his HS career is the fact that he played the low post in HS ball.

[quincey hodges]

i agree. im not saying henson wont end up being very good but as everyone on this site knows im more of a show me first before i commit to saying how good a player will be. sydney is the exception because ive watched him play during the summer and was very very impressed. so far im not very impressed with henson as a sf now or back in hs. as far as pf i think his potential could be very very high if he gets stronger. like a face up pf. just like randolph. theres more of a mismatch for a player that size that has some handles and cant hit a midrange at the pf then it is at the sf where they wont be as fast as some and wont be able to handle as well as others. sorta liek how beasley produces more as a pf then he does as a sf

[SlimParticipant]

henson has to put on weight, renardo has to lose some

[JNixonParticipant]

I can agree with that. I think he’ll function like Anthony Randolph and be a face-up PF. I guess that’s similar to a SF, but he’ll probably project as a PF with face-up skills like Randolph.

[tbp82Participant]

In terms of upside/potential John Hensen is the #1 prospects in this draft. Wall and Favors are more NBA ready right now but Hensen has the most upside. I see Hensen is more of a face up Power Forward in that Anthony Randolph mold as well.

Sidney has talent is not a great defender but the talent is there. He reminds me of a taller Zach Randolph.

Favors is a great high energy big man in that Josh Smith Mold.

Wall is an amazing athlete. His upside is great as well. I see him as a Derrick Rose type on the next level.

[quincey hodges]

pretty much any player that is tall and has a lil bit of handles is going to have the best potential. if there was a kid who was 7’1 and could shoot a lil and handle a lil he would be considered to have the higest potential

[JNixonParticipant]

Yea, because he would have the ability to do more on the floor….he would have the most POTENTIAL to do things on the floor that others can’t do…

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