[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 He would take 39 current NBA PG’S over Rajon Rondo!

 

Cant find link cause im on my phone but WOW!

 

The disrespect for Rondo is at an all time high.

 

 

 

 

[runBruceParticipant]

 So he’s taking backups over Rondo?….wow, that’s crazy. I gotta believe he has more left in the tank than that.

[runBruceParticipant]

 So he’s taking backups over Rondo?….wow, that’s crazy. I gotta believe he has more left in the tank than that.

[TyroberParticipant]

 Obviously the scout has over dosed on his medication and is probably lying unconscious somewhere right now. 

[TyroberParticipant]

 Obviously the scout has over dosed on his medication and is probably lying unconscious somewhere right now. 

[samosasParticipant]

 Maybe that’s why he’s a scout and not, you know, an NBA GM or a head coach.

[samosasParticipant]

 Maybe that’s why he’s a scout and not, you know, an NBA GM or a head coach.

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Somebody post the link he was saying all type of crazy stuff about Rondo.

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Somebody post the link he was saying all type of crazy stuff about Rondo.

[wrectorParticipant]

Chris Grant’s head scout

[wrectorParticipant]

Chris Grant’s head scout

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

here is the link… NBA Scout Bashes Rajon Rondo, Says He’d Take 39 Other Point Guards Instead http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1975936-nba-scout-bashes-rajon-rondo-says-hed-take-39-other-point-guards-instead via @bleacherreport

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

here is the link… NBA Scout Bashes Rajon Rondo, Says He’d Take 39 Other Point Guards Instead http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1975936-nba-scout-bashes-rajon-rondo-says-hed-take-39-other-point-guards-instead via @bleacherreport

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

thats someone who isnt a fan of rondo….

saying you would take 5 or 6 pgs over him is ok….but 40 is insane,thats saying he’s not a nba starter……..he bashed rondo a few years ago saying his defense was overrated,he wasnt athletic enough or a good shooter and only has success becuz he played with the big 3….

 but the scout wasnt named and that article is on ”bleacher report”…lol….and most of their articles are written by fans….. 

 

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

thats someone who isnt a fan of rondo….

saying you would take 5 or 6 pgs over him is ok….but 40 is insane,thats saying he’s not a nba starter……..he bashed rondo a few years ago saying his defense was overrated,he wasnt athletic enough or a good shooter and only has success becuz he played with the big 3….

 but the scout wasnt named and that article is on ”bleacher report”…lol….and most of their articles are written by fans….. 

 

[The QParticipant]

 It was actually an ESPN insider piece .

Now i’m just trying to think of the backup PGs he’d take. 

Collison? Reggie Jackson? 

I’m really wondering who else. 

 

 And No before it rains negs I’m not agreeing with him, just literally thinking of what possible backup PGs he could possibly be referring to. 

 

 

 

[The QParticipant]

 It was actually an ESPN insider piece .

Now i’m just trying to think of the backup PGs he’d take. 

Collison? Reggie Jackson? 

I’m really wondering who else. 

 

 And No before it rains negs I’m not agreeing with him, just literally thinking of what possible backup PGs he could possibly be referring to. 

 

 

 

[terrancebowerParticipant]

That scout shout be fired… I don’t know if I could trust his opinion after that if I were a GM. Honestly, when everyone’s healthy the only PGs I’d take over Rondo are CP3, Rose and maybe Westbrook. I’d take Rondo over Parker, Wall, Lillard, and Curry (but to be fair, not by much). Throw D Will in the mix too if he’s fully healthy (I think he’s going to bounce back next season), but I have Rondo firmly in my Top 5 (again, this is him at full strength, we’ll see if he can regain his pre-injury form).

[terrancebowerParticipant]

That scout shout be fired… I don’t know if I could trust his opinion after that if I were a GM. Honestly, when everyone’s healthy the only PGs I’d take over Rondo are CP3, Rose and maybe Westbrook. I’d take Rondo over Parker, Wall, Lillard, and Curry (but to be fair, not by much). Throw D Will in the mix too if he’s fully healthy (I think he’s going to bounce back next season), but I have Rondo firmly in my Top 5 (again, this is him at full strength, we’ll see if he can regain his pre-injury form).

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Im not even at the backup Pgs yet Im trying to figure out 10 pgs I’d take over Rondo

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Im not even at the backup Pgs yet Im trying to figure out 10 pgs I’d take over Rondo

[Sewok15Participant]

It wasn’t Ron Jaworski was it? He is saying all kinds of crazy stuff lately.

[Sewok15Participant]

It wasn’t Ron Jaworski was it? He is saying all kinds of crazy stuff lately.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Rondo was good when he had the big three alongside him. This year, he is being terribly exposed and Danny Ainge will probably unload him in the offseason before the whole league realizes how overrated he is.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Rondo was good when he had the big three alongside him. This year, he is being terribly exposed and Danny Ainge will probably unload him in the offseason before the whole league realizes how overrated he is.

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

Must be a Heat scout. Trolol.
Seriously doe. George Hill over Rondo?! WTF.

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

Must be a Heat scout. Trolol.
Seriously doe. George Hill over Rondo?! WTF.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Different teams have different takes, same can be said for their personnel. It is not that he is saying he is a bad player, he is saying he does not like his attitude. The article in which this was written was actually an ESPN article written by Chris Broussard. He is directly quoting an "Eastern Conference Scout" and I have a feeling that scout might be real. Also really doubt he is from the Heat, though that would be kind of jokes.

Here is something I have heard about Rajon Rondo: He is not easy to play with. His attitude has been questionable. Everyone made him into this PG you build a title around, well, that never happened. I always felt they won their first title in spite of him. He was huge those few years after, though at the same time he definitely was not easy to manage. Know he got on Ray Allen’s nerves for a while, as was well publicized. Think Doc Rivers was also wearing thin with him and believe their was a reason for the trade rumors the last couple years beyond them rebuilding.

Have heard he is almost DeMarcus Cousins level of difficult to handle. It is not that he isn’t talented, he is. He has definite defensive ability and is a good passer. Do not think he is the revolutionary playmaker people made him out to be. Plus, the shooting, it never got significantly better. For a guy who is known for killing people off of the drive, he seems afraid to go to the FT stripe. That always bothered me about him.

There is no way in hell I take 39 PG’s ahead of him, just want people to know that their is another side to him that some might not be crazy about. When you scout a player, you want to see a positive attitude and focus. Coming out with your shoes untied and shooting off hand FT’s, that does not sound like it. It may have been one example, though am guessing it is a symbol to how some think he takes things. Not that he isn’t a competitor, just that he might not be going through the motions one typically see in NBA level preparation.

Once again, I think he is definitely talented and see why he fits what many see as desirable traits of a PG. He stacks up a stat sheet and D’s up, plus does look to pass. What I did not buy was his being the best PG in the league and I am not sure I would put him in my top 5 at any point in time. He has had some great moments and great games, plus I respect that he really did help the Celtics nearly win another ring as being a strong PG.

Do feel that their is more to him than meets the eye and while this scout may be viewed as a "hater" and took a VERY harsh stance, know that Rajon has that reputation amongst some people. Maybe not "39 PG’s ahead of him" reputation, though I think some teams would rather not deal with him and are not sure about building a team with him being one of the central pieces. I know the Celtics fell apart really quickly and that he is coming back from injury, plus his play has picked up. Just have definitely noticed, life has not been as easy for the Celtics with Rondo as the man. Yes, they are rebuilding, though I still remember people last year saying that Rondo=play-offs. He can help your team win, just do not think he is as much of a franchise changer as a few other PGs out there.

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 Everything you said about Rondo’s mental make up may be accutare but ask KG and Paul Pierce if they’d rather have Rondo starting in Brooklyn over Livingston and D.Will…Don’t try to tell me Mark Jackson, Greg Popovich and Scott Brooks wouldn’t want Rondo in their lineup

I can’t name many teams that wouldn’t love Rondo as their starting PG, CP3 is the only guy I can name off the top of my head, Curry would the SG in Golden State, Rose the SG in Chicago, Westbrook the SG in OKC, Parker might be made the 6th man or play SG in San Antonio??? Can’t see many places he would not start at PG…

Lilliard would be slide over to Sg, same goes for Kyrie Irving, the only really young elite PG’s I wouldn’t run him with are John Wall and Ricky Rubio(because they can’t shoot from outside)

The fact is Rondo would start at PG for any team outside the LA Clippers and Washington Wizards(CP3’s too good and Wall can’t play off the ball)

Most of the Best "PG’s" could be and would be slid over to SG if there current team traded for or signed Rondo…

This guy is high off Opium if he’d seriously take 39 other PG’s before Rajon "I almost averaged a triple double against a very good Chicago Bulls team that also had Derrick Rose starting opposite of me" Rondo

 

 

 

 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

While I do agree this guy is harsh in his statement and dislikes Rondo, I guess I feel he has a right to his opinion. He does fit what many would call a "hater" motif in maybe a giant dislike for a player and he made a really strong statement in doing so. What I do think is that if this guy was building a team, he would maybe not want someone with Rondo’s attitude leading said team.

You see this as crazy and see Rondo as a "championship PG". He did win a title and he competed well at a high level. However, that might not have worked without what was around him in Boston and I also reject the notion that Rajon Rondo could start for any team and move anyone else to 2 guard while still making them a championship team. That sounds like a crazier notion than a team not wanting Rondo at all, at least in terms of how it would work out and what would have to go behind doing this.

This guy may be too harsh on Rondo, though I think you give him way too much credit. He played great against a rookie Derrick Rose in a 7 game first round series. I know the Celtics did not have KG, but they still had Ray Allen and Paul Pierce coming off their championship season. He was amazing through 5 games, though did not necessarily kill it in Games 6 or 7. This was still a 1 against an 8, and for a rookie coming off of his freshman season, it was not like Derrick Rose did not at least put up a fight. This was the most memorable play of that series, at least to me:

Here is a flashback to some of my thoughts on Rondo, as well:

http://nbadraft.net/forum/ranks-these-players-upsidemax-potentialcurrent-ranking-position-and-give-player-comparison

Can’t believe it has been almost two and a half years. I see Deron Williams is not doing much with the appearance of KG and Paul Pierce. Though, to be completely fair, Rondo was 18-20 in the games he played with the Celtics last season. It has been 6 seasons since the Celtics have won that championship and Rondo is still young. The thing that has not seemed to improve much is his attitude and still being a player you are not terrified of killing you from the outside.

Am sure many teams would want to have him, however not sure those teams would be contending teams with what it would take to get him and what he brings to the lockerroom, at least from what I heard on the latter. No longer do I hear people calling him the best PG in the league and while you can dream of Mark Jackson, Scottie Brooks or Pop moving there PG over to the 2 to play with Rondo, that ain’t happening. Have a hard time believing Rondo replacing whoever they had now makes them a better team, much harder to believe than when you came up with that list in later November ’11.

So, the guy may be a "hater" of Rondo, though once again, am not sure he is COMPLETELY alone. The "39 PG’s" thing is over the top. What also may be over the top is thinking you are building a championship team run around Rajon Rondo. While I somewhat question Chris Broussard’s journalistic integrity, I would at least hope he didn’t use a single source to give him everyone on his list, or just make it up. I am sure there are more teams that would take a chance on Rondo than not and a few teams that wouldn’t touch him. Just think the notion people were pushing off Rondo being the best PG on planet earth and the one you want leading your contending team more than any other, those are seeming to fade away.

He is still young and he could prove me wrong, but he has to be the one to do so as opposed to just relying on what he accomplished when he was playing with future Hall of Famers. The guy has been impressive and had monster games, still seems like there is more than meets the eye as to the potential down side of what he brings to a team.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

While I do agree this guy is harsh in his statement and dislikes Rondo, I guess I feel he has a right to his opinion. He does fit what many would call a "hater" motif in maybe a giant dislike for a player and he made a really strong statement in doing so. What I do think is that if this guy was building a team, he would maybe not want someone with Rondo’s attitude leading said team.

You see this as crazy and see Rondo as a "championship PG". He did win a title and he competed well at a high level. However, that might not have worked without what was around him in Boston and I also reject the notion that Rajon Rondo could start for any team and move anyone else to 2 guard while still making them a championship team. That sounds like a crazier notion than a team not wanting Rondo at all, at least in terms of how it would work out and what would have to go behind doing this.

This guy may be too harsh on Rondo, though I think you give him way too much credit. He played great against a rookie Derrick Rose in a 7 game first round series. I know the Celtics did not have KG, but they still had Ray Allen and Paul Pierce coming off their championship season. He was amazing through 5 games, though did not necessarily kill it in Games 6 or 7. This was still a 1 against an 8, and for a rookie coming off of his freshman season, it was not like Derrick Rose did not at least put up a fight. This was the most memorable play of that series, at least to me:

Here is a flashback to some of my thoughts on Rondo, as well:

http://nbadraft.net/forum/ranks-these-players-upsidemax-potentialcurrent-ranking-position-and-give-player-comparison

Can’t believe it has been almost two and a half years. I see Deron Williams is not doing much with the appearance of KG and Paul Pierce. Though, to be completely fair, Rondo was 18-20 in the games he played with the Celtics last season. It has been 6 seasons since the Celtics have won that championship and Rondo is still young. The thing that has not seemed to improve much is his attitude and still being a player you are not terrified of killing you from the outside.

Am sure many teams would want to have him, however not sure those teams would be contending teams with what it would take to get him and what he brings to the lockerroom, at least from what I heard on the latter. No longer do I hear people calling him the best PG in the league and while you can dream of Mark Jackson, Scottie Brooks or Pop moving there PG over to the 2 to play with Rondo, that ain’t happening. Have a hard time believing Rondo replacing whoever they had now makes them a better team, much harder to believe than when you came up with that list in later November ’11.

So, the guy may be a "hater" of Rondo, though once again, am not sure he is COMPLETELY alone. The "39 PG’s" thing is over the top. What also may be over the top is thinking you are building a championship team run around Rajon Rondo. While I somewhat question Chris Broussard’s journalistic integrity, I would at least hope he didn’t use a single source to give him everyone on his list, or just make it up. I am sure there are more teams that would take a chance on Rondo than not and a few teams that wouldn’t touch him. Just think the notion people were pushing off Rondo being the best PG on planet earth and the one you want leading your contending team more than any other, those are seeming to fade away.

He is still young and he could prove me wrong, but he has to be the one to do so as opposed to just relying on what he accomplished when he was playing with future Hall of Famers. The guy has been impressive and had monster games, still seems like there is more than meets the eye as to the potential down side of what he brings to a team.

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 Everything you said about Rondo’s mental make up may be accutare but ask KG and Paul Pierce if they’d rather have Rondo starting in Brooklyn over Livingston and D.Will…Don’t try to tell me Mark Jackson, Greg Popovich and Scott Brooks wouldn’t want Rondo in their lineup

I can’t name many teams that wouldn’t love Rondo as their starting PG, CP3 is the only guy I can name off the top of my head, Curry would the SG in Golden State, Rose the SG in Chicago, Westbrook the SG in OKC, Parker might be made the 6th man or play SG in San Antonio??? Can’t see many places he would not start at PG…

Lilliard would be slide over to Sg, same goes for Kyrie Irving, the only really young elite PG’s I wouldn’t run him with are John Wall and Ricky Rubio(because they can’t shoot from outside)

The fact is Rondo would start at PG for any team outside the LA Clippers and Washington Wizards(CP3’s too good and Wall can’t play off the ball)

Most of the Best "PG’s" could be and would be slid over to SG if there current team traded for or signed Rondo…

This guy is high off Opium if he’d seriously take 39 other PG’s before Rajon "I almost averaged a triple double against a very good Chicago Bulls team that also had Derrick Rose starting opposite of me" Rondo

 

 

 

 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Different teams have different takes, same can be said for their personnel. It is not that he is saying he is a bad player, he is saying he does not like his attitude. The article in which this was written was actually an ESPN article written by Chris Broussard. He is directly quoting an "Eastern Conference Scout" and I have a feeling that scout might be real. Also really doubt he is from the Heat, though that would be kind of jokes.

Here is something I have heard about Rajon Rondo: He is not easy to play with. His attitude has been questionable. Everyone made him into this PG you build a title around, well, that never happened. I always felt they won their first title in spite of him. He was huge those few years after, though at the same time he definitely was not easy to manage. Know he got on Ray Allen’s nerves for a while, as was well publicized. Think Doc Rivers was also wearing thin with him and believe their was a reason for the trade rumors the last couple years beyond them rebuilding.

Have heard he is almost DeMarcus Cousins level of difficult to handle. It is not that he isn’t talented, he is. He has definite defensive ability and is a good passer. Do not think he is the revolutionary playmaker people made him out to be. Plus, the shooting, it never got significantly better. For a guy who is known for killing people off of the drive, he seems afraid to go to the FT stripe. That always bothered me about him.

There is no way in hell I take 39 PG’s ahead of him, just want people to know that their is another side to him that some might not be crazy about. When you scout a player, you want to see a positive attitude and focus. Coming out with your shoes untied and shooting off hand FT’s, that does not sound like it. It may have been one example, though am guessing it is a symbol to how some think he takes things. Not that he isn’t a competitor, just that he might not be going through the motions one typically see in NBA level preparation.

Once again, I think he is definitely talented and see why he fits what many see as desirable traits of a PG. He stacks up a stat sheet and D’s up, plus does look to pass. What I did not buy was his being the best PG in the league and I am not sure I would put him in my top 5 at any point in time. He has had some great moments and great games, plus I respect that he really did help the Celtics nearly win another ring as being a strong PG.

Do feel that their is more to him than meets the eye and while this scout may be viewed as a "hater" and took a VERY harsh stance, know that Rajon has that reputation amongst some people. Maybe not "39 PG’s ahead of him" reputation, though I think some teams would rather not deal with him and are not sure about building a team with him being one of the central pieces. I know the Celtics fell apart really quickly and that he is coming back from injury, plus his play has picked up. Just have definitely noticed, life has not been as easy for the Celtics with Rondo as the man. Yes, they are rebuilding, though I still remember people last year saying that Rondo=play-offs. He can help your team win, just do not think he is as much of a franchise changer as a few other PGs out there.

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

He said Rubio is the most overrated PG in the NBA in that article too…because he "doesn’t finish games" and "is horrible on defense." He doesn’t finish games because Adelman has a raging mega hard-on for JJ Barea for some stupid reason, and he’s a much, much better defender than people give him credit for. He doesn’t get as much credit for his D because he and LRMAM have been the only competent or better wing defenders on that team; Minny has no rim protection whatsoever, Brewer- signed for his "defense" has been a sieve, and don’t even get me started on K-Mart or Bud, lol. Yeah, I’m a homer. But I also agree that this scout is insane for saying Rondo is that bad.

I agree with all his underrated picks though (especially Dragic and Conley). 

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

He said Rubio is the most overrated PG in the NBA in that article too…because he "doesn’t finish games" and "is horrible on defense." He doesn’t finish games because Adelman has a raging mega hard-on for JJ Barea for some stupid reason, and he’s a much, much better defender than people give him credit for. He doesn’t get as much credit for his D because he and LRMAM have been the only competent or better wing defenders on that team; Minny has no rim protection whatsoever, Brewer- signed for his "defense" has been a sieve, and don’t even get me started on K-Mart or Bud, lol. Yeah, I’m a homer. But I also agree that this scout is insane for saying Rondo is that bad.

I agree with all his underrated picks though (especially Dragic and Conley). 

[thatdude44Participant]

Is there even 39 PG’s in the league that are actually good? The Rondo disrespect is out of control now, he’s still pretty good I think but that injury quickly forced him to the back burner as far as being elite… 

[thatdude44Participant]

Is there even 39 PG’s in the league that are actually good? The Rondo disrespect is out of control now, he’s still pretty good I think but that injury quickly forced him to the back burner as far as being elite… 

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