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  • #59185
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    tfo1983
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    2015 NBA Trade Deadline- Winners & Losers:

    Winners:

    Celtics- Getting a major scorer in Isaiah Thomas

    You give up a pick in the high 20s and a glorified bench guy for a 20 ppg with an extremely reasonable, long term contract? I love this move by the Celtics. Also, I think he plays off the ball in the offense and could elevate Smart’s game by giving him a reliable offensive option. Smart can definitely guard shooting guards too. Thomas projects as a fantastic No. 2 scoring option for the Celtics. Now, let’s go get that No. 1 option!

    Thunder- The whole bundle (Enes Kanter, DJ Augustin, Kyle Singler, Steve Novak)

    Reggie Jackson wanted out and they got a lot for moving him. The Thunder didn’t need any help in the starting lineup, but they may have got it anyways. Kanter will start next to Ibaka while Steve Adams is out. He will probably move to a 6th man once Adams is back, but that frontcourt is much deeper now (Adams, Ibaka, McGary, Kanter). DJ Augustin is a great backup pg to have, especially come playoff time. Novak and Singler? Whatever, I guess they can shoot. No cares about them.

    Bucks- Michael Carter-Williams, Miles Plumlee and Tyler Ennis

    Jason Kidd coaching MCW is an ideal for the young Syracuse product. He got that triple double potential, just like Kidd. However, he’ll never be as good as Kidd. I’m definitely not saying that.

    Kidd gets a true pg to run his promising young team. MCW, Parker and the Greek Freak is a very young and talented foundation to build around. Plumlee is a solid post player to replace Larry Sanders. Ennis is a solid prospect and could become a good back-up pg with Kidd coaching him.

    I’m very interested to see what this team does with the new pieces and who they draw in the playoffs.

    Underrated Moves:

    Houston- KJ McDaniels is a freak.

    I love this kid. He’s having a quiet, but stellar rookie year. He’s a great athlete who can hit a three and play some solid defense (1.3 blocks per game). Also, McDaniels can run the floor and finish above the rim. Great move for the Rockets in terms of strengthening their bench and get a nice young player for them to develop into quite a back-up for Parsons and Harden. He’s raw and needs to develop more, but what a nice addition for not much of anything (Isaiah Canaan, 2nd round pick).

    On a side note, I would love to see McDaniels in the dunk contest.

    Portland- Can get Arron Afflalo get some respect?

    The Trailblazers could be the 2nd best team in the West now. It was between them, the Grizzlies and Houston. I honestly think Afflalo pushes them over the edge. He can start or could be a fantastic 6th man. He’s a very good shooter and defender. He can play the 2 or 3 spots. Also, he’s an unselfish player with a high hoops IQ. Great move for a Portland team that’s already stacked.

    Losers:

    Piston- Reggie Jackson? Why?

    There is no way he signs with the Pistons. He wants “to play basketball” and Brandon Jennings doesn’t like to share the basketball so good luck there. If the Nets didn’t exist, this would be the worst run team in the league. I’m already picturing Drummond demanding a trade during 2015-2016 season.

    76ers- You have more picks than you have roster spots. Calm down.

    Sam Hinkie makes Danny Angie look lazy. They better get very activate in the offseason. There is such thing as being “too young.”

    I’m just confused:

    The Suns- What just happened….

    Ok, so I think I got this. They got rid of Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Zoran Dragic, Mile Plumlee and Tyler Ennis. That’s a lot of guards and I think they are still pretty good in the backcourt.

     

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  • #967695
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    Tyrober
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    My first thought was what a weird time it was to do NBA draft winners after looking at your title… I hate losing Jackson, but getting Kanter and a couple of sharp shooters should really help the Thunder.

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    • #967713
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      hbomb3300
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      I’m just glad they got Kanter instead of Lopez.  Kanter is still very young, has great range on his shot, and they can match any offer for him this summer.  Lopez is highly injury prone, and has a huge contract that he could opt out of this summer and the Thunder could of ended up with nothing.

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    • #967862
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      hbomb3300
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      I’m just glad they got Kanter instead of Lopez.  Kanter is still very young, has great range on his shot, and they can match any offer for him this summer.  Lopez is highly injury prone, and has a huge contract that he could opt out of this summer and the Thunder could of ended up with nothing.

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  • #967845
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    Tyrober
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    My first thought was what a weird time it was to do NBA draft winners after looking at your title… I hate losing Jackson, but getting Kanter and a couple of sharp shooters should really help the Thunder.

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  • #967699
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    tfo1983
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     I think Kanter was a great pickup. I doubt Novak or Singler do anything. 

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  • #967849
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    tfo1983
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     I think Kanter was a great pickup. I doubt Novak or Singler do anything. 

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  • #967701
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    mgreener_34
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    The Big Winners:

    Well the obvious choice here is the Thunder for reasons already stated. They got another good offensive big man who can get them easy hoops inside, but for me the big pick up was DJ Augustine. He is a great backup point guard who can shoot the 3 ball and run the offense at times. I think he’s the perfect backcourt mate to play with either Waiters or Westbrook. Thunder vs Warriors is going to be dynamite! 

    Bucks. To me they are winners, even if it doesn’t seem like it. They are here because of good coaching, and a good defense, not because of Brandon Knight putting the team on his shoulders. Knight is a great player, but when you can pick up a good prospect who moves the ball, and a nice rotation big after you ditch Sanders for a player who was about to get paid, than you have to do it. MCW, Giannas, Hennson, Parker, and Middleton are a nice nucleous going forward. They do need to add another scorer to that mix though. 

    Rockets. They somehow added a good 3-D guy in KJ for nothing, and added a nice veteran PG in Prigioni. Not that those players move the needle, but can you ever have enough depth? They are serious contenders this year now. 

    The Big Losers:

    Clippers. Every team in the west except of the Warriors or Spurs greatly improved their roster. Those afformentioned teams I trust, the Clippers I don’t. They needed to do something, and still have a glarring hole at SF that needs to get filled, and when you see guys like KJ McDaniels leave town for nothing it kind of makes you wonder if their GM even picked up the phone. 

    Brooklyn. To go another deadline and not move Lopez, Williams, or Johnson is just horrific. Thanks Billy King, I speak for Celtic fans everywhere. I also hate adding Thad Young. It just gives me the impression that they are still holding onto hope that this core can compete now, and for some reason that kind of irks me. 

    The Nuetral:

    I don’t think the Suns took too much of a step back to quantify them as definative losers. Dragic was great, but Knight is a great shooter too, and as Dragic said his role was just "standing in the corner" and shoot. Knight is perfect for that role. Also they did get some future picks, and could be addition by subtraction with Archie and Warren now getting to join the roster. The only losing part was giving up that Lakers pick.

    I also don’t agree with you on the Celtics. I like Isaiah. He’s a fun dude to watch, and is easy to root for, but how can you overlook his size? No team will win anything with him being a key-cog, and I would have liked the Celtics to have gone after someone else. are there even any point guards in the NBA who have a career negative DBPM? He’s 5’9, and in todays NBA that is just to easy to exploit, even if you do have the ability to put up 20 a night. 

    EDIT: I take that back, losing that Lakers pick could be really really bad.

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    • #967703
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      rich.homie.mitch
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       I’d say the blazers are winners or neutral. They gave up pretty much nothing, and got Affalo a great 3&D to come off the bench, they also got Gee a great defensive energy guy.  

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    • #967853
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      rich.homie.mitch
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       I’d say the blazers are winners or neutral. They gave up pretty much nothing, and got Affalo a great 3&D to come off the bench, they also got Gee a great defensive energy guy.  

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  • #967851
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    mgreener_34
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    The Big Winners:

    Well the obvious choice here is the Thunder for reasons already stated. They got another good offensive big man who can get them easy hoops inside, but for me the big pick up was DJ Augustine. He is a great backup point guard who can shoot the 3 ball and run the offense at times. I think he’s the perfect backcourt mate to play with either Waiters or Westbrook. Thunder vs Warriors is going to be dynamite! 

    Bucks. To me they are winners, even if it doesn’t seem like it. They are here because of good coaching, and a good defense, not because of Brandon Knight putting the team on his shoulders. Knight is a great player, but when you can pick up a good prospect who moves the ball, and a nice rotation big after you ditch Sanders for a player who was about to get paid, than you have to do it. MCW, Giannas, Hennson, Parker, and Middleton are a nice nucleous going forward. They do need to add another scorer to that mix though. 

    Rockets. They somehow added a good 3-D guy in KJ for nothing, and added a nice veteran PG in Prigioni. Not that those players move the needle, but can you ever have enough depth? They are serious contenders this year now. 

    The Big Losers:

    Clippers. Every team in the west except of the Warriors or Spurs greatly improved their roster. Those afformentioned teams I trust, the Clippers I don’t. They needed to do something, and still have a glarring hole at SF that needs to get filled, and when you see guys like KJ McDaniels leave town for nothing it kind of makes you wonder if their GM even picked up the phone. 

    Brooklyn. To go another deadline and not move Lopez, Williams, or Johnson is just horrific. Thanks Billy King, I speak for Celtic fans everywhere. I also hate adding Thad Young. It just gives me the impression that they are still holding onto hope that this core can compete now, and for some reason that kind of irks me. 

    The Nuetral:

    I don’t think the Suns took too much of a step back to quantify them as definative losers. Dragic was great, but Knight is a great shooter too, and as Dragic said his role was just "standing in the corner" and shoot. Knight is perfect for that role. Also they did get some future picks, and could be addition by subtraction with Archie and Warren now getting to join the roster. The only losing part was giving up that Lakers pick.

    I also don’t agree with you on the Celtics. I like Isaiah. He’s a fun dude to watch, and is easy to root for, but how can you overlook his size? No team will win anything with him being a key-cog, and I would have liked the Celtics to have gone after someone else. are there even any point guards in the NBA who have a career negative DBPM? He’s 5’9, and in todays NBA that is just to easy to exploit, even if you do have the ability to put up 20 a night. 

    EDIT: I take that back, losing that Lakers pick could be really really bad.

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  • #967719
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    LOFTY
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     Ok with everyone happy with kanter to okc why isn’t Utah a loser? My favorite jazz man (not the best) gone for NOTHING! 

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  • #967868
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    LOFTY
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     Ok with everyone happy with kanter to okc why isn’t Utah a loser? My favorite jazz man (not the best) gone for NOTHING! 

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  • #967727
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     Knight is gonna get paid big time this offseason and he is not going to be worth it.  He isn’t bad – he catches way too much flak in places like RealGM – but he is very flawed for what he will cost.  This move gives the Bucks tons of cap space next offseason, especially if the Sanders’ buyout is finalized.  Bucks should throw a max offer at Marc Gasol and, when Memphis matches, they can go after Omer Asik or Kyle O’Quinn.  Bucks now could help facilitate any other team’s offseason trades.

    I am not certain about MCW, but he is a good fit for Milwaukee, as he Milwaukee’s super agressive PnR defense will get that much scarier with him.  Plus, the Bucks highly value forcing TOs.  And Jason Kidd loves big distributing PGs – see his use of Livington and Marshall and now the trade for MCW and Ennis.  

    The Bucks length could be downright scary next season.  A MCW-Middleton-Giannis-Parker-Henson lineup, the Bucks likely starting lineup next season barring a major aquisition, has an average height of over 6’9" and average wingspan north of 7 feet.  

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  • #967876
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     Knight is gonna get paid big time this offseason and he is not going to be worth it.  He isn’t bad – he catches way too much flak in places like RealGM – but he is very flawed for what he will cost.  This move gives the Bucks tons of cap space next offseason, especially if the Sanders’ buyout is finalized.  Bucks should throw a max offer at Marc Gasol and, when Memphis matches, they can go after Omer Asik or Kyle O’Quinn.  Bucks now could help facilitate any other team’s offseason trades.

    I am not certain about MCW, but he is a good fit for Milwaukee, as he Milwaukee’s super agressive PnR defense will get that much scarier with him.  Plus, the Bucks highly value forcing TOs.  And Jason Kidd loves big distributing PGs – see his use of Livington and Marshall and now the trade for MCW and Ennis.  

    The Bucks length could be downright scary next season.  A MCW-Middleton-Giannis-Parker-Henson lineup, the Bucks likely starting lineup next season barring a major aquisition, has an average height of over 6’9" and average wingspan north of 7 feet.  

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  • #967773
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    Jco4
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     As a clippers fan seeing McDaniels moved for nothing made me mad. Hell I would’ve been happy with Alonzo Gee to tell you the truth. It seems like they just aren’t destined to have decent wing players. 

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    • #967950
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      King Calucha
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      It was reported on NBA Tv that Crawford was on the trading block. I wonder what they would have got for him… it’s hard to believe Doc Rivers was looking for picks. I don’t undertand that move, it’s good they didn’t make it.

      I’m predicting the Clippers are going down to the 8-9 spot.

       

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    • #967800
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      King Calucha
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      It was reported on NBA Tv that Crawford was on the trading block. I wonder what they would have got for him… it’s hard to believe Doc Rivers was looking for picks. I don’t undertand that move, it’s good they didn’t make it.

      I’m predicting the Clippers are going down to the 8-9 spot.

       

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      • #968021
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        Jco4
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        Apparently they were looking for a first round pick which was the asking price for Afflalo or Chandler. I’m glad Crawford wasn’t traded though, without him the bench is paper thin and I feel if he was moved they would be fixing one issue whilst creating another.

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      • #967871
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        Jco4
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        Apparently they were looking for a first round pick which was the asking price for Afflalo or Chandler. I’m glad Crawford wasn’t traded though, without him the bench is paper thin and I feel if he was moved they would be fixing one issue whilst creating another.

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  • #967922
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    Jco4
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     As a clippers fan seeing McDaniels moved for nothing made me mad. Hell I would’ve been happy with Alonzo Gee to tell you the truth. It seems like they just aren’t destined to have decent wing players. 

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  • #967993
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    4th quarter
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    Kj McDaniels momma is the real winner 

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  • #968144
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    4th quarter
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    Kj McDaniels momma is the real winner 

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