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  • #56262
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    drk3351
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     I breakdown the shooting guard prospects in this years draft. I make some bold predictions so feel free to disagree or agree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch

     

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  • #917632
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    SpartanGlory
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    The breakdowns of the players are okay, but the ranking system doesn’t make sense. Why would you have a second round guy at number 1? I’m not that high on Lavine, but he has amazing potential as a prospect, an you hardly have him rated at all. My rankings would look much different. The top 3 are easily Harris, young, and Stauskus. All 3 have just moderate levels of potential, but Harris and Stauskus should have the best careers because they bring skills that teams can use immediately. They might have lower ceilings, but they both have very high basketball IQ. Not begging you for the rankings, but not +1 either because it’s a little confusing.

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    SpartanGlory
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    The breakdowns of the players are okay, but the ranking system doesn’t make sense. Why would you have a second round guy at number 1? I’m not that high on Lavine, but he has amazing potential as a prospect, an you hardly have him rated at all. My rankings would look much different. The top 3 are easily Harris, young, and Stauskus. All 3 have just moderate levels of potential, but Harris and Stauskus should have the best careers because they bring skills that teams can use immediately. They might have lower ceilings, but they both have very high basketball IQ. Not begging you for the rankings, but not +1 either because it’s a little confusing.

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    • #917510
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      Scrooge McDuck
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      He uses his own method for rating, that’s why his rankings are a little unusual. He made reasonable arguments to back them up.

      On a side note, I like LaVine a lot, too. I think he has a little Vince Carter in his game. 

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    • #917642
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      Scrooge McDuck
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      He uses his own method for rating, that’s why his rankings are a little unusual. He made reasonable arguments to back them up.

      On a side note, I like LaVine a lot, too. I think he has a little Vince Carter in his game. 

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  • #917504
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    Hale
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    It’d be nice if you want a little more in depth with the analysis but I found the video enjoyable to watch. Keep it up man.

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  • #917636
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    Hale
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    It’d be nice if you want a little more in depth with the analysis but I found the video enjoyable to watch. Keep it up man.

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  • #917506
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    SpartanGlory
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    *Negging. Not sure why I can’t edit my post. What is this stupid word processing program that this site uses anyway?

     

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  • #917638
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    SpartanGlory
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    *Negging. Not sure why I can’t edit my post. What is this stupid word processing program that this site uses anyway?

     

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  • #917522
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    OhCanada-
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    Great job once again yet I disagree with your rankings. When asked what is the deepest position in this draft Masai Ujiri pointed towards the depth for qaulity role players at SG. This can be found in the May 29th draft workout video. Whether or not that was a smokescreen you can tell GM’s like this years SG crop.

    None of these players project to be stars but any of these guys can be qaulity starters if put in the right position.

    Like the fact that you gave some love to Markel Brown. 

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  • #917654
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    OhCanada-
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    Great job once again yet I disagree with your rankings. When asked what is the deepest position in this draft Masai Ujiri pointed towards the depth for qaulity role players at SG. This can be found in the May 29th draft workout video. Whether or not that was a smokescreen you can tell GM’s like this years SG crop.

    None of these players project to be stars but any of these guys can be qaulity starters if put in the right position.

    Like the fact that you gave some love to Markel Brown. 

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  • #917534
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    King Calucha
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     Can you hear me shaking my head every time someone says a 6’4” SG is undersized?…

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    • #917540
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      Lotto Stud
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      I take it a 6’1" PG is too.

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    • #917672
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      Lotto Stud
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      I take it a 6’1" PG is too.

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  • #917666
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    King Calucha
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     Can you hear me shaking my head every time someone says a 6’4” SG is undersized?…

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  • #917854
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    SwatLakeCity
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    Like last time, I don’t agree with your rankings. You are unbelievably high on some people. I mean why in the world is a guy from the second round ranked #1? If they are ranked high, their stock should be high as well. So like last time, I give you my rankings. But before I proceed, I’d like to mention that I do have Exum in the rankings, because I consider him to be a 2 guard in the NBA, but I think he will play some PG too. I included him in the PG rankings too with a comment off to the side that I think he is more of a 2 guard, because I didn’t want anybody thinking where is Dante Exum.

    My SG Rankings:

    1. Dante Exum
    2. James Young
    3. Gary Harris
    4. Zach LaVine
    5. Nick Stauskas 
    6. PJ Hairston 
    7. Markel Brown (look at that the OP #1 drops to #7 on my rankings)
    8. CJ Wilcox (although by draft night he might go higher than Hairston, because of his NBA readiness, and superior shooting)
    9. Jordan Adams 
    10. Spencer Dinwiddie

    other notables would be Nick Johnson, Jabari Brown, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Sean Kilpatrick, Roy Devyn Marble, and Andre Dawkins.

    You say the SG is weak but that couldn’t be further from the truth. If you look at my rankings you’ll see that all of the top 5 could go in the lottery. That speaks to how deep the SG is. There is a considerable drop off between #5 and #6. All top 5 could be lottery picks (although I have Stauskas just outside of the lottery at pick 16, but lottery teams will also give big looks at him too.) #6 PJ Hairston won’t go until late first round to early second. So a drop off of about 15 picks, pretty considerable. But after 6, the rankings once again get tight. SG’s 6-10 could all be gone by pick 40, but yet #6 doesn’t get picked until late first round eary second. (only 10 picks between the bottom 4, again tells you how deep it actually is. And then I have 5 notables who are getting drafted (at least in my mock draft), while you only have 3. (maybe that’s because that’s all you ever include but I’m not gonna argue that.) If you are looking for a weak position in this draft, look at the Center position. This draft is filled with wing players (SG and SF) and sprinkled with a big man every now and then.

    I think you should look into including your formula for how you rank players in your rankings posts. A lot of people seem to be asking for that. (including myself)

     

     

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  • #917723
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    SwatLakeCity
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    Like last time, I don’t agree with your rankings. You are unbelievably high on some people. I mean why in the world is a guy from the second round ranked #1? If they are ranked high, their stock should be high as well. So like last time, I give you my rankings. But before I proceed, I’d like to mention that I do have Exum in the rankings, because I consider him to be a 2 guard in the NBA, but I think he will play some PG too. I included him in the PG rankings too with a comment off to the side that I think he is more of a 2 guard, because I didn’t want anybody thinking where is Dante Exum.

    My SG Rankings:

    1. Dante Exum
    2. James Young
    3. Gary Harris
    4. Zach LaVine
    5. Nick Stauskas 
    6. PJ Hairston 
    7. Markel Brown (look at that the OP #1 drops to #7 on my rankings)
    8. CJ Wilcox (although by draft night he might go higher than Hairston, because of his NBA readiness, and superior shooting)
    9. Jordan Adams 
    10. Spencer Dinwiddie

    other notables would be Nick Johnson, Jabari Brown, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Sean Kilpatrick, Roy Devyn Marble, and Andre Dawkins.

    You say the SG is weak but that couldn’t be further from the truth. If you look at my rankings you’ll see that all of the top 5 could go in the lottery. That speaks to how deep the SG is. There is a considerable drop off between #5 and #6. All top 5 could be lottery picks (although I have Stauskas just outside of the lottery at pick 16, but lottery teams will also give big looks at him too.) #6 PJ Hairston won’t go until late first round to early second. So a drop off of about 15 picks, pretty considerable. But after 6, the rankings once again get tight. SG’s 6-10 could all be gone by pick 40, but yet #6 doesn’t get picked until late first round eary second. (only 10 picks between the bottom 4, again tells you how deep it actually is. And then I have 5 notables who are getting drafted (at least in my mock draft), while you only have 3. (maybe that’s because that’s all you ever include but I’m not gonna argue that.) If you are looking for a weak position in this draft, look at the Center position. This draft is filled with wing players (SG and SF) and sprinkled with a big man every now and then.

    I think you should look into including your formula for how you rank players in your rankings posts. A lot of people seem to be asking for that. (including myself)

     

     

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