[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

It is a constant discussion amongst our forum, "Who is the best of All-Time"? While the consensus is usually Michael Jordan, we still debate and discuss who the greatest were at certain positions. We all use different criteria, most talented, best scorers, greatest career achievement and so on. Also, more often than not, there are some who judge others lists and say, "Well, so and so should not be ranked here" or "So and so is a better player than him". Now, here is the time to put your money where your mouth is.

I am suggesting, for fun, a forum wide poll. The format will be our ranking the best players up to this current point in time in NBA history by the 5 positions. I am hoping this is more used for tabulation than discussion, and we can make an entirely separate thread for our discussion after we have gotten people to cast their votes.

The rules are simple, you rank the 5 All-Time best players at each position in NBA History. The scoring for the poll will be general NBA MVP scoring. A first place vote is worth 5 points, a second place vote is worth 4 points, a third place vote 3, a fourth place vote 2 and a fifth place vote 1. You each have one vote, so make your decisions carefully. I am hoping to get as many participants as possible, and I am hoping they will cast their votes seriously. In the end, we will have consensus rankings of the greatest of All-Time amongst the site, which could lead to even possibly more votes. I appreciate anyone participating, and I hope that we all reserve judgement until we make a separate discussion thread on the matter.

The Template (You can just copy and paste it):

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5 Best C’s of All-Time

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My vote:

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Oscar Robertson

3. Isiah Thomas

4. John Stockton

5. Walt Frazier

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Jerry West

4. Allen Iverson

5. Clyde Drexler

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Elgin Baylor

3. Julius Erving

4. John Havlicek

5. Rick Barry

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Tim Duncan

2. Karl Malone

3. Kevin Garnett

4. Charles Barkley

5. Bob Pettit

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Shaquille O’Neal

2. Bill Russell

3. Wilt Chamberlain

4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

5. Hakeem Olajuwon

 

Even making this list, I have thoughts. Center was the easiest for me, as far as the 5 I chose, but the ranking is difficult. PF is stacked at the top, I had to leave out Elvin Hayes, Dirk Nowitzki and Kevin McHale. SF was difficult as well, I am sure LeBron James will make the top 5 one day, but it is difficult to leave out Scottie Pippen. I will say, I think the drop off amongst the All-Time great players in entirety is huge at SG. Once you get past Jerry West, I think you have quite a few players in their before one gets to Allen Iverson. Dwyane Wade is another player I am sure will make the list as well, but he has only played 8 seasons, much like LeBron. PG is also incredibly difficult with having to leave off Kidd, Cousy and Payton. Than again, this is not a list of the best players of All-Time as a whole, more the best to ever have played these positions. Still, I am hoping this leads to even more lists and I look forward to the discussion post.

[JoeWolf1]

 5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Oscar Robertson

3. John Stocton

4. Isiah Thomas

5. Jason Kidd

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Jerry West

4. George Gervin

5. Clyde Drexler

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Julius Erving

3. Elgin Baylor

4. Rick Berry

5. Scottie Pippen

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Tim Duncan

2. Karl Malone

3. Bob Pettit

4. Kevin Garnett

5. Charles Barkley

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Wilt Chamberlain

2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar

3. Hakeem Olajuwon

4. Bill Russell

5. Shaquille O’Neil

 

 

 

 

 

[tjmartin23Participant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Ocscar Robertson

3. John Stockton

4. Jason Kidd

5. Isaiah Thomas

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. George Gervin

4. Jerry West 

5. Allen Iverson

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Elgin Baylor

3. Julius Erving

4. Scottie Pippen

5. Rick Berry

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Karl Malone

2. Tim Duncan

3. Charles Barkley

4. Kevin Garnett

5. Dirk Nowitzki

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

2. Shaq O’Neal

3. Bill Russel

4. Hakeem Olajuwan

5. Wilt Chamberlin

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

5 BEST Point Guards All Time

1.Magic Johnson

2.Oscar Robertson

3.Isiaah Thomas

4.John Stockton

5.Jason Kidd

 

 

5 BEST Shooting Guards All Time

1.Micheal Jordan

2.Kobe Bryant

3.Jerry West

4.Dwayne Wade

5.Allen Iverson

 

 

5.BEST Small Forwards All Time

1.Larry Bird

2.Julius Erving

3.Lebron James

4.Elgin Baylor

5.Rick Barry

 

 

5 BEST Power Forwards All Time

1.Tim Duncan

2.Karl Malone

3.Kevin Garnett

4.Charles Barkley

5.Kevin McHale

 

 

 

5 Best Centers All Time

1.Kareem Abdul Jabbar

2.Shaq

3.Wilt Chamberlin

4.Hakeem Olajuwon

5.Bill Russell

 

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

It’s always so difficult to decide between players of different eras, so in the end all I can really do is look at how great each player was in comparison to their peers and rate them accordingly. Anyway here goes mine:

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Oscar Robertson

3. Isiah Thomas

4. John Stockton

5. Bob Cousy

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Jerry West

4. Allen Iverson

5. George Gervin

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Julius Erving

3. Elgin Baylor

4. John Havlicek

5. Lebron James

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Tim Duncan

2. Karl Malone

3. Bob Petit

4. Charles Barkley

5. Kevin Garnett

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

2. Wilt Chamberlain

3. Bill Russell

4. Shaquille O’Neal

5. Hakeem Olajuwon

[PyronParticipant]

 great list there mikey.. i’d have mine the same as yours.

what makes me laugh is how you have kobe 2nd… it reminded me of when jordan considered kobe top 10 (not top 5) LOL… jordan is such a joker..damn his competitiveness 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Thank you for the compliment. I am sorry for doing this, but even if your list is the same as mine, would you mind posting it? Just easier to keep track of, plus maybe you would have some subtle differences. I have Kobe Bryant ranked 2nd All-Time as a SG, but also as a player. I know a lot of people disagree with me and feel that is too high, but I feel like beyond Michael, Kobe is probably the next best player to have ever played the game. His skill set is absolutely incredible. Michael is insanely competitive, and his Top 10 thing was probably not as much of a slight to Kobe as everyone thinks, but I think he knows that Kobe may have indeed been his closest competition had they battled each other in their prime. I give the edge to Mike, but it would be interesting. Thanks to everyone who has posted a list, I appreciate it. Keep them coming!

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

LMAO at Pryon,”Great List MikeyV Mine is just like yours”…

Thats like being at a Job Interview and telling the Interviewer,”my Resume is just like yours..But doesnt Show it!!!

[TRC1991Participant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Oscar Robertson

3. John Stockton

4. Isiah Thomas

5. Jason Kidd

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Jerry West

4. Allen Iverson

5. George Gervin

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Elgin Baylor

3. LeBron James

4. Julius Erving

5. Scottie Pippen

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Tim Duncan

2. Karl Malone

3. Charles Barkley

4. Kevin Garnett

5. Bob Pettit

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Wilt Chamberlain

2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

3. Hakeem Olajuwon

4. Shaquille O’Neal

5. Bill Russell

[PyronParticipant]

rudeboy: i is at work… no time to write a full list mang

 

work + alt/tabbing back and forth nbadraft.net = ftw!

[llperez]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. magic johnson

2.oscar robertson

3.john stockton

4.gary payton

5.isaiah thomas

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1.michael jordan

2.kobe bryant

3.jerry west

4.dwyane wade

5.allen iverson

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1.larry bird

2.lebron james

3.julius erving

4.rick barry

5.john havlicek

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1.tim duncan

2.karl malone

3.charles barkley

4.bob petit

5.kevin garnett

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1.kareem abdul jabbar

2.shaquille oneal

3.wilt chamberlain

4.hakeem olajuwon

5.bill russell

 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1.  Magic

2.  The Big O

3.  Isaiah

4.  Stockton

5.  Kidd

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1.  Jordan

2.  Kobe

3.  The Logo

4.  Wade

5.  Iverson

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1.  Bird

2.  Baylor

3.  Irving

4.  Lebron

5.  Pippen

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1.  Duncan

2.  Malone

3.  Pettit

4.  Garnett

5.  Barkley

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1.  Wilt

2.  Kareem

3.  Shaq

4.  Russell

5.  Hakeem

[MkadozaParticipant]

 5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Oscar Robertson

3. John Stockton

4. Walt Frazier

5. Isaiah Thomas

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Jerry West

4. Clyde Drexler

5. George Gervin

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Julius Erving

3. Elgin Baylor

4. Rick Barry

5. Lebron James

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Tim Duncan

2. Karl Malone

3. Kevin Garnett

4. Charles Barkley

5. Bob Pettit

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

2. Wilt Chamberlain

3. Bill Russell

4. Shaquille O’Neal

5. Hakeem Olajuwan

[Bad DogParticipant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. The Big O

3. Bob Cousy

4. Gary Payton

5. Jason Kidd

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael

2. Kobe

3. The Logo

4. The Iceman

5. Pistol Pete

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Bird

2. Baylor

3. Rick Barry

4. Dr. J

5. Lebron

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Timmay

2. Bob Pettit

3. Mailman

4. Dirk

5. Sir Charles

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Russell

2. Stilt

3. Shaq

4. The Dream

5. Kareem

[StF616Participant]

 5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1.Magic Johnson

2.Oscar Robertson

3.John Stockton

4.Isiah Thomas

5.Jason Kidd

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1.Michael Jordan

2.Kobe Bryant

3.Jerry West

4.Allen Iverson

5.George Gervin

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1.Larry Bird

2.Elgin Baylor

3.Julius Erving

4.Scottie Pippen

5.LeBron James

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1.Tim Duncan

2.Karl Malone

3.Bob Pettit

4.Charles Barkley

5.Kevin Garnett

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1.Wilt Chamberlain

2.Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

3.Shaquille O’Neal

4.Bill Rusell

5.Hakeem Olajuwon

 

[aamir543Participant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Oscar Robertson

3. John Stockton 

4.Isiah Thomas

5. Allen Iverson (Yes, he’s a Point)

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Jerry West

4.Clyde Drexler

5. George Gervin

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Julius Erving

3. Elgin Baylor

4. John Havlicek

5. Scottie Pippen

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Karl Malone

2. Tim Duncan

3. Charles Barkley

4. Kevin Garnett

5. Dirk Nowitzki

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Kareem Abdul Jabbar

2. Shaq

3. Wilt Chamberlain

4. Hakeem Olaujown

5. Bill Russell

 

 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Oscar Robertson

3. Isiah Thomas

4. John Stockton

5. Bob Cousy

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Jerry West

4. Allen Iverson

5. Clyde Drexler

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Elgin Baylor

3. John Havlicek

4. Julius Erving

5. Rick Barry

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Tim Duncan

2. Karl Malone

3. Charles Barkley

4. Kevin McHale

5. Bob Pettit

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabar

2. Shaquille O’Neal

3. Wilt Chamberlain

4. Hakeem Olajuwon

5. Bill Russell

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Funny, everyone is unanimous with their top 5 centers; Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Hakeem, Russell…. Well done, they are definitely the top 5.

[TRC1991Participant]

i cant believe LLPerez left elgin baylor out of his top 5 sf’s… career averages of 27 and 15 for a guy 6’5” 220 is unreal

[Chicago1980Participant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. J. Stockton

2. I. Thomas

3. E. Johnson

4. J. Kidd

5. G. Payton

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. M. Jordan

2. J. West

3. R. Allen

4. D. Wade

5. C. Drexler

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. L. Bird

2. S. Pippen

3. L. James

4. J. Erving

5. D. Wilkins

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. T. Duncan

2. K. Malone

3. K. Garnett

4. K. Mchale

5. C. Barlkey

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. H. Olajuwon

2. W. Chamberlain

3. L. Alcindor

4. S. Oneal

5. B. Russell

[TRC1991Participant]

wilkins: 24.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 2.5 apg, 1.3 spg, 46% FG

baylor: 27.4 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 4.3 apg, 43% FG, 78% FT

 

i think people sleep on elgin baylor way too much, dude averaged 38 and 18 in 1961

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Agree… Baylor is a top five lock.

 

[MJBrownParticipant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. magic johnson

2. oscar robertson

3. john stockton

4. jason kidd

5. Isiah Thomas

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. MJ

2. Kobe

3.West

4.Iverson

5. Ray Allen

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Bird

2. Havlicek

3. Baylor

4. Pippen

5. Barry

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Duncan

2. Barkley

3. Malone

4. Garnett

5. McHale

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Russell

2. O’Neal

3. Chamberlain

4. Jabbar

5. Olajuwon

[MJBrownParticipant]

I had a change of heart but too late too edit, please swap Baylor to 2 and Havlicek to 3

[SmooveKRYPTParticipant]

5 Best PG’s of All-Time

1. Magic Johnson

2. Oscar Robertson

3. John Stockton

4. Isiah Thomas

5. Jason Kidd

 

5 Best SG’s of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Jerry West

4. Clyde Drexler

5. George Gervin

 

5 Best SF’s of All-Time

1. Larry Bird

2. Julius Erving

3. Elgin Baylor

4. Dominique Wilkins

5. Scottie Pippen

 

5 Best PF’s of All-Time

1. Karl Malone

2. Kevin Garnett

3. Tim Duncan

4. Charles Barkley

5. Kevin McHale

 

5 Best C’s of All-Time

1. Hakeem Olajuwon

2. Wilt Chamberlain

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. Bill Russell

5. Shaquille O’Neal

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