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  • #59067
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    JM40
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    Every draft, there are a few prospects from big schools that are seen as lottery/first round prospects that simply do not have the skillset to make the transition to the league (Joe Alexander, Julian Wright). There are also a few prospects that weren’t even on the NBA draft radar in a significant way that end up being great role players in the league (Jeremy Lin, Danny Green). Here are my suggestions for players who end up in these categories that will likely be in the next few drafts;

    BUST Candidates:
    Marcus Lee
    Chris Walker
    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
    Montrezl Harrell
    Amida Brimah

    SURPRISE Candidates:
    Georges Niang
    Jarrod Uthoff
    Larry Nance Jr.
    D’Angelo Harrison
    Jonathan Holmes

    Any other suggestions for either category????

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  • #965689
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    Bornaskul
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     There is still time for those players to be projected as lottery picks  and be described  as future all stars and fall back to being close to undrafted before the draft and then again have better careers than some lottery picks.

    Maybe I am exaggerating a little bit but you get the point.

     

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  • #965837
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    Bornaskul
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     There is still time for those players to be projected as lottery picks  and be described  as future all stars and fall back to being close to undrafted before the draft and then again have better careers than some lottery picks.

    Maybe I am exaggerating a little bit but you get the point.

     

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  • #965727
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    I hate to project players as busts this early, particularly with so little to evaluate them on. For example, I can honestly say I have no idea how good someone like Kelly oubre will be in 5 yrs. He has shown some flashes, but he’s all potential and upside at this point. 

    With that being said, I’d be very nervous if my team drafted Myles turner. While I love his shooting touch for a player his size, he just moves so awkwardly on the court and doesn’t appear to have a very solid foundation. To me, this screams potential for knee and back problems when dealing with the speed and strength of the NBA game. Maybe it’s possible that he is still just growing into his body and this can be corrected with strength training but it would definitely give me cause for concern if I were a scout or gm.

    As far as potential surprises, I could see someone like rakeem Christmas having a pretty good NBA career even though he’s kind of a late bloomer and not projected right now as a first rounder. Also, I could see Kevin pangos having a decent career as a back up pg in the Steve Blake mold. Smart, heady players who rarely turn the ball over and are knock down shooters have a way of sticking around the league for a long time.

     

     

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  • #965875
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    I hate to project players as busts this early, particularly with so little to evaluate them on. For example, I can honestly say I have no idea how good someone like Kelly oubre will be in 5 yrs. He has shown some flashes, but he’s all potential and upside at this point. 

    With that being said, I’d be very nervous if my team drafted Myles turner. While I love his shooting touch for a player his size, he just moves so awkwardly on the court and doesn’t appear to have a very solid foundation. To me, this screams potential for knee and back problems when dealing with the speed and strength of the NBA game. Maybe it’s possible that he is still just growing into his body and this can be corrected with strength training but it would definitely give me cause for concern if I were a scout or gm.

    As far as potential surprises, I could see someone like rakeem Christmas having a pretty good NBA career even though he’s kind of a late bloomer and not projected right now as a first rounder. Also, I could see Kevin pangos having a decent career as a back up pg in the Steve Blake mold. Smart, heady players who rarely turn the ball over and are knock down shooters have a way of sticking around the league for a long time.

     

     

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  • #965735
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    I can see Marcus Lee being a bust. Me being a UK fan I was hoping he could turn the corner and be a enforcer on the defensive end. It doesn’t look like that’s going to happen with Cal recruiting over you every year. Its either FIO or transfer.

    Chris Walker and Brimah Will defiantly be end of the bench guys. Brimah might have a higher chance of getting run in the NBA because of his height. Walker no chance!!!! Dudes game sucks. He just bullied people around in high school that’s why he scored so much.

    Harrell and Jefferson I think will be nice stretch 4 guys for people. Like a Taj Gibson type. Spread the court, nice pick and pop guys with a lot of athletic ability and good range.

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  • #965883
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    Willo15
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    I can see Marcus Lee being a bust. Me being a UK fan I was hoping he could turn the corner and be a enforcer on the defensive end. It doesn’t look like that’s going to happen with Cal recruiting over you every year. Its either FIO or transfer.

    Chris Walker and Brimah Will defiantly be end of the bench guys. Brimah might have a higher chance of getting run in the NBA because of his height. Walker no chance!!!! Dudes game sucks. He just bullied people around in high school that’s why he scored so much.

    Harrell and Jefferson I think will be nice stretch 4 guys for people. Like a Taj Gibson type. Spread the court, nice pick and pop guys with a lot of athletic ability and good range.

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  • #965889
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    kazam
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     Looking at your bust category, its sort of unfair considering only one of those guys at this point is pegged anywhere near the lottery. With that in mind, I dont think anyone considers a player drafted outside the lottery to come in and be a star anyway. Players who do so are characterized as surprise and bright spots.  I like Rondae as a surprise talent- he will be an excellent role player in the L. 

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  • #965741
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    kazam
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     Looking at your bust category, its sort of unfair considering only one of those guys at this point is pegged anywhere near the lottery. With that in mind, I dont think anyone considers a player drafted outside the lottery to come in and be a star anyway. Players who do so are characterized as surprise and bright spots.  I like Rondae as a surprise talent- he will be an excellent role player in the L. 

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  • #965921
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    JordanC20
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     Marcus Lee is still a work in progress…no he wasn’t a one and done but its a good thng that guys have the option to stay 3 or 4 years to develop their games…if he can learn how to time his blocks better and rebound with 2 hands consistently that will bring his game to a whole nother level.

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  • #965774
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    JordanC20
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     Marcus Lee is still a work in progress…no he wasn’t a one and done but its a good thng that guys have the option to stay 3 or 4 years to develop their games…if he can learn how to time his blocks better and rebound with 2 hands consistently that will bring his game to a whole nother level.

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  • #965929
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    JoeWolf1

     A player that I like in the 2nd round this season Rakeem Christmas. I’ve been very impressed by his improvements from last season, and despite being just 6’9”, he has a wingspan reported as low as 7’3”, and has high as 7’4.5”.

    I think he can rebound and play defense at the NBA level, and he’s really developed into a very good mid-range shooter, which gives him pick and pop appeal. In the 2nd round, I think he’s a guy who has a chance at having a career in the NBA.

    I feel this isn’t a very deep draft in terms of quality 2nd rounders. Usually there’s quite a few guys who will drop past 30, I feel good about as NBA players…not so much this year. I think most of the 2015 2nd round will be in Europe next year. It will be interesting to see what underclassmen declare this season. 

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  • #965782
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    JoeWolf1

     A player that I like in the 2nd round this season Rakeem Christmas. I’ve been very impressed by his improvements from last season, and despite being just 6’9”, he has a wingspan reported as low as 7’3”, and has high as 7’4.5”.

    I think he can rebound and play defense at the NBA level, and he’s really developed into a very good mid-range shooter, which gives him pick and pop appeal. In the 2nd round, I think he’s a guy who has a chance at having a career in the NBA.

    I feel this isn’t a very deep draft in terms of quality 2nd rounders. Usually there’s quite a few guys who will drop past 30, I feel good about as NBA players…not so much this year. I think most of the 2015 2nd round will be in Europe next year. It will be interesting to see what underclassmen declare this season. 

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    • #965896
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      What do you think about Jordan Mickey, JoeWolf (or anybody else). I feel like Christmas’ name has popped up a few times on this board but I don’t really see what seperates him from someone like Mickey. Mickey does alot of the same things, IMO plays with more energy and is two and a half years younger. How would you compare the two?

       

       

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      • #965984
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        JoeWolf1

         I like Mickey. He is significantly undersized ( around 6’7” ) but he’s got a great wingspan, and he’s obvioiusly a very effective shot blocker. I don’t think Jordan will declare this year, but there’s a chance he could cash out after a great sophomore season.

        They’re both shooting over 40% on their 2 point jumpers ( which is great for a college PF ). I don’t think the 2” Mickey gives up is a huge deal, when comparing him to Christmas because Jordan is a better shot blocker, and more used to playing man to man at a younger age. 

        I think Mickey could carve out a role as an undersized grinder much like Jason Maxiell has done over the years. If he were to declare this season, I’d be thrilled to pull the trigger on him in the late 1st or early 2nd round. 

         

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      • #966131
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        JoeWolf1

         I like Mickey. He is significantly undersized ( around 6’7” ) but he’s got a great wingspan, and he’s obvioiusly a very effective shot blocker. I don’t think Jordan will declare this year, but there’s a chance he could cash out after a great sophomore season.

        They’re both shooting over 40% on their 2 point jumpers ( which is great for a college PF ). I don’t think the 2” Mickey gives up is a huge deal, when comparing him to Christmas because Jordan is a better shot blocker, and more used to playing man to man at a younger age. 

        I think Mickey could carve out a role as an undersized grinder much like Jason Maxiell has done over the years. If he were to declare this season, I’d be thrilled to pull the trigger on him in the late 1st or early 2nd round. 

         

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    • #966043
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      What do you think about Jordan Mickey, JoeWolf (or anybody else). I feel like Christmas’ name has popped up a few times on this board but I don’t really see what seperates him from someone like Mickey. Mickey does alot of the same things, IMO plays with more energy and is two and a half years younger. How would you compare the two?

       

       

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  • #965957
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    he_gets_buckets
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     How is Russell a surprise? Every man and his dog has been projecting him as a top 3 pick over the past few weeks

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  • #965810
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    he_gets_buckets
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     How is Russell a surprise? Every man and his dog has been projecting him as a top 3 pick over the past few weeks

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    • #965961
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      JoeWolf1

      Wrong, D’Angelo.

      He said Harrison, as in St. John’s senior combo guard.

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    • #965814
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      JoeWolf1

      Wrong, D’Angelo.

      He said Harrison, as in St. John’s senior combo guard.

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      • #965995
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        he_gets_buckets
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        My bad

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      • #965848
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        he_gets_buckets
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        My bad

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  • #965912
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    tfo1983
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     None of those guys are busts, because they are not lotto picks (except Harrell who I think will be a solid role player). However, I like your Niang pick, but I don’t think he enters the draft this year.

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  • #966059
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     None of those guys are busts, because they are not lotto picks (except Harrell who I think will be a solid role player). However, I like your Niang pick, but I don’t think he enters the draft this year.

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  • #965974
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    sitlbito
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    If Chris Walker even declares,I’d be surprised. Marcus Lee also,they could be good prospects if they’d be 7ft or taller,but except jumping and running they don’t do much with a basketball in their hands.

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    • #966202
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      Surprises

      A name to remember is George Lucas De Paula…a 18 year old 6’5 point guard from brazil that has a reported 7’1 wingspan…has terrific court vision,great ball handler and passer…..he’s started generating buzz last summer playing in the fibas americas championship in colorado and at the nike event in chicago..where he averaged 20 pts/6 rbs against some of the nation’s top high schoolers..i hear he’s been invited to play at the nike summit in april..a good showing could boost his draft stock….

       

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    • #966349
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      RUDEBOY_
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      Surprises

      A name to remember is George Lucas De Paula…a 18 year old 6’5 point guard from brazil that has a reported 7’1 wingspan…has terrific court vision,great ball handler and passer…..he’s started generating buzz last summer playing in the fibas americas championship in colorado and at the nike event in chicago..where he averaged 20 pts/6 rbs against some of the nation’s top high schoolers..i hear he’s been invited to play at the nike summit in april..a good showing could boost his draft stock….

       

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  • #966121
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    sitlbito
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    If Chris Walker even declares,I’d be surprised. Marcus Lee also,they could be good prospects if they’d be 7ft or taller,but except jumping and running they don’t do much with a basketball in their hands.

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  • #966401
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    rileymcshea3
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     Devin Booker

    Great shooter and size for SG position. Reminds me of Klay Thompson. A guy that can both ends of the floor, good IQ and doesn’t make a lot of mistakes,

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  • #966254
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    rileymcshea3
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     Devin Booker

    Great shooter and size for SG position. Reminds me of Klay Thompson. A guy that can both ends of the floor, good IQ and doesn’t make a lot of mistakes,

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