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- Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 4:07pm #54164
JeffreyhardenParticipantThe Bucks should fire Larry Drew and hire George Karl
The Bucks should draft Jabari Parker
and trade not Larry Sanders but Ersan Ilyasova.& brandon Knight
for Reggie Jackson Perry Jones Kendrick Perkins
The Thunder can get a good back up guard in Brandon Knight because Reggie Jackson is about to get paid from someone to be a starter (Bucks), so they might as well get his backup plan started now. Then their is Ersan Iiyasova that can provide scoring for them off the bench or could start next to Ibaka in some small ball lineup. Plus they get out having to pay Kendrick Perkins
The Bucks would get the point guard of the future for their account in Reggie Jackson, a nice prospect in Perry Jones, and the final year of Kendrick Perkins can get bought out.
I don’t think that Bucks should try and make Giannis Antetokounmpo a scorer they should make him an efficient Josh Smith type 4 man, he is going to be 7 feet tall within a year or 2 and with his ability he should be a 15 10 4 1.5 1.5 type of player pretty easy since the scoring will rest on the shoulders of
Jabari Parker. He can come in and probably average 18PPG 6RPG. With this team he can probably average around 23PPG if his conditioning is good because he would have an advantage at his position because he is so much bigger then other small forwards. In this system he could play the 3 most of the time because they would have ZaZa and John Hensen backing up the bigs.
I would have Larry Sanders just focus on defense and rebounding like last year and he could by default be a 10-10-3 type player. He is a proven player and with the right coach and right role he can become the player that’s worth that contract.
I think OJ Mayo can and will come back in better shape and determined that he can be effective. from the reports it looks like he just came in out of shape so with a coach like George Karl and semi-expectations on him he better come back focused. And being an OJ fan since he was in high school I got faith in my boy.
Reggie Jackson Ramon Sessions
O J Mayo
Jabari Parker
Giannis Antetokounmpo John Henson
Larry Sanders
Thats a nice core to build around and depending on how they jell and whatever vet’s they could get they could be a playoff team next year.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 5:18pm #876551

Tune SquadParticipantI maybe like the Karl hiring if he wants to coach still.. but taking Parker over Wiggins or Embid when the most assured pieces the Bucks have moving forward right now are Giannis at SF and Henson at PF shouldn’t happen if they can help it, unless they move Giannis to SG. I also think you are dreaming that Thunder make that move. Not a bad dream or anything…I just doubt that IF the Thunder move Jackson that they do it for those two players.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 5:18pm #876444

Tune SquadParticipantI maybe like the Karl hiring if he wants to coach still.. but taking Parker over Wiggins or Embid when the most assured pieces the Bucks have moving forward right now are Giannis at SF and Henson at PF shouldn’t happen if they can help it, unless they move Giannis to SG. I also think you are dreaming that Thunder make that move. Not a bad dream or anything…I just doubt that IF the Thunder move Jackson that they do it for those two players.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 5:45pm #876557

princejamesParticipantReggie Jackson will be a definite upgrade over Brandon Knight. Because to me Brandon Knight is not a point guard. Over the last 3 season Brandon knight is averaging 4.4 assist per game and close to 3 turnovers a game. Which is an extremely below average assist to turnover ratio for a point guard. Brandon Knight is a talented combo guard who can’t consistently play the point guard position at a high level because of his average passing skills, average court vision, and average ability to consistently find and pass to the open man
Perry Jones is a extremely talented, freakish athlete, and versatile small forward prospect who has the ability to easily be a high level player once he develops the ability to play with more swagger, confidence, and mental toughness.
OJ Mayo will be fine, I expect him to come back in better shape next year and play with a desire and competiveness to prove that he can help the Milwaukee Bucks win more games next year. Also the reason I think mayo will be fine is because he has proven In the past that he can be a very valuable and key contributor who utilizes strong work ethic, a high level of professionalism, effortless scoring ability, solid play-making skills, and the needed unselfishness that allows him to sacrifice individual goals for the purpose of achieving goals that contribute to his teams ability to be successful
George Carl or Lionel Hollins will be upgrades over Larry Drew. And I love the potential of Nate Wolters, John Henson, and Kris Middleton
I Also Prefer Julius Randle over Jabari Parker. I love Jabari Parker, but I just think that Julius Randle is gonna be a mother fu*kin beast in the NBA. Who has the potential to be extremely hard to defend at the power forward position
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 5:45pm #876450

princejamesParticipantReggie Jackson will be a definite upgrade over Brandon Knight. Because to me Brandon Knight is not a point guard. Over the last 3 season Brandon knight is averaging 4.4 assist per game and close to 3 turnovers a game. Which is an extremely below average assist to turnover ratio for a point guard. Brandon Knight is a talented combo guard who can’t consistently play the point guard position at a high level because of his average passing skills, average court vision, and average ability to consistently find and pass to the open man
Perry Jones is a extremely talented, freakish athlete, and versatile small forward prospect who has the ability to easily be a high level player once he develops the ability to play with more swagger, confidence, and mental toughness.
OJ Mayo will be fine, I expect him to come back in better shape next year and play with a desire and competiveness to prove that he can help the Milwaukee Bucks win more games next year. Also the reason I think mayo will be fine is because he has proven In the past that he can be a very valuable and key contributor who utilizes strong work ethic, a high level of professionalism, effortless scoring ability, solid play-making skills, and the needed unselfishness that allows him to sacrifice individual goals for the purpose of achieving goals that contribute to his teams ability to be successful
George Carl or Lionel Hollins will be upgrades over Larry Drew. And I love the potential of Nate Wolters, John Henson, and Kris Middleton
I Also Prefer Julius Randle over Jabari Parker. I love Jabari Parker, but I just think that Julius Randle is gonna be a mother fu*kin beast in the NBA. Who has the potential to be extremely hard to defend at the power forward position
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 6:19pm #876567
theprophetParticipanti like both the karl and hollins suggestions, and whatever draft pick they take is how the bucks could decide how trades would go, although the suggested moves are nothing to sneeze at. if i’m the bucks though, i continue with drew as head coach until more roster changes have been done. i’m more of the mind set that it’s a waste of money to hire a coach when he just doesn’t have the talented players to coach with anyways. (also why i don’t like long contracts with coaches on rebuilding teams when the case is that all the blame is on them.) wait til there is legit building blocks first, then spend the money on a good coach that’s worth it. everyone’s happier that way. i am sure somebody would be available to coach for the bucks in a couple years with a stronger core.
@princejames – if you like reggie Jackson better than brandon knight, that’s fine. it’s yet to be seen how jackson would do as a full time starter over the course of a season as the floor general, but to say you like jackson better because knight isn’t a point guard, then i hope you forgot to mention it’s because you think jackson is a better option and not because jackson is a point guard. jackson is a combo guard to.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 6:19pm #876460
theprophetParticipanti like both the karl and hollins suggestions, and whatever draft pick they take is how the bucks could decide how trades would go, although the suggested moves are nothing to sneeze at. if i’m the bucks though, i continue with drew as head coach until more roster changes have been done. i’m more of the mind set that it’s a waste of money to hire a coach when he just doesn’t have the talented players to coach with anyways. (also why i don’t like long contracts with coaches on rebuilding teams when the case is that all the blame is on them.) wait til there is legit building blocks first, then spend the money on a good coach that’s worth it. everyone’s happier that way. i am sure somebody would be available to coach for the bucks in a couple years with a stronger core.
@princejames – if you like reggie Jackson better than brandon knight, that’s fine. it’s yet to be seen how jackson would do as a full time starter over the course of a season as the floor general, but to say you like jackson better because knight isn’t a point guard, then i hope you forgot to mention it’s because you think jackson is a better option and not because jackson is a point guard. jackson is a combo guard to.
0- Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 6:41pm #876573

princejamesParticipantReggie Jackson is a better point guard prospect
Brandon knight is talented, but will most likely end up being a Jason Terry Type of combo guard / Sixth man who can come off the bench and provide scoring, energy, solid playmaking, and ultimately end up being a solid back-up point guard. Brandon Knights average passing instincts limits his ability to be a high level point guardPassing Skills That I Think Need To Be Developed And Utilized With-in A Point Guard’s Skill Set:
1. Timing
2. Accuracy
3. Anticipation
4. Touch
5. The Utilization Of The Proper And Needed Passing Angle
6. Create passing angles with creativity and dynamic skill ( Example: draw and kick, no look pass, ball fakes, etc )
7. Have the ability to consistently find the open man
8. Have the ability to make passes to players when they are in position to effectively create a high percentage scoring opportunity for themselves
9. Have the instincts and patience to let passing angles develop and open up
10. Have the ability to make lead passes which are passes that lead the catcher to a position or spot on the court that gives the catcher the opportunity to score in an effective and efficient matter
11. Have the ability to throw passes at the needed angle that ultimately prevents the pass from being easily deflected by talented defenders0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 6:41pm #876466

princejamesParticipantReggie Jackson is a better point guard prospect
Brandon knight is talented, but will most likely end up being a Jason Terry Type of combo guard / Sixth man who can come off the bench and provide scoring, energy, solid playmaking, and ultimately end up being a solid back-up point guard. Brandon Knights average passing instincts limits his ability to be a high level point guardPassing Skills That I Think Need To Be Developed And Utilized With-in A Point Guard’s Skill Set:
1. Timing
2. Accuracy
3. Anticipation
4. Touch
5. The Utilization Of The Proper And Needed Passing Angle
6. Create passing angles with creativity and dynamic skill ( Example: draw and kick, no look pass, ball fakes, etc )
7. Have the ability to consistently find the open man
8. Have the ability to make passes to players when they are in position to effectively create a high percentage scoring opportunity for themselves
9. Have the instincts and patience to let passing angles develop and open up
10. Have the ability to make lead passes which are passes that lead the catcher to a position or spot on the court that gives the catcher the opportunity to score in an effective and efficient matter
11. Have the ability to throw passes at the needed angle that ultimately prevents the pass from being easily deflected by talented defenders0- Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 7:34pm #876595
theprophetParticipanteverything you said is true, and i don’t deny that. about the skill set of brandon knight and the prototypical point guard. but reggie jackson is an undersized shooting guard ala poor man’s westbrook on his own team. jackson looks to score. his size and speed are point guard like, he can play defense against quick point guards better than knight to. but jackson is still a scorer more than a point guard. he’s a great spark plug off the bench no doubt, and when needed, in short spurts, he can fill in pretty nicely in the place of westbrook. but westbrook is a scorer to. he may be slotted at point, but he’s not a true point guard. a true point guard looks to set others up first unless it’s necessary. durant is a reason alone that it’s not absolutely necessary. (although it still works because they are that good anyways) the thunder can get away without having a true point guard because they have a collective team that plays together well. in fact, durant is bringing the ball down the court and setting up plays as much as jackson or westbrook these days. it’s almost like there offense runs without a point guard, similar to the triangle offense. this particular team could use a true point, but doesn’t really need one.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 7:34pm #876488
theprophetParticipanteverything you said is true, and i don’t deny that. about the skill set of brandon knight and the prototypical point guard. but reggie jackson is an undersized shooting guard ala poor man’s westbrook on his own team. jackson looks to score. his size and speed are point guard like, he can play defense against quick point guards better than knight to. but jackson is still a scorer more than a point guard. he’s a great spark plug off the bench no doubt, and when needed, in short spurts, he can fill in pretty nicely in the place of westbrook. but westbrook is a scorer to. he may be slotted at point, but he’s not a true point guard. a true point guard looks to set others up first unless it’s necessary. durant is a reason alone that it’s not absolutely necessary. (although it still works because they are that good anyways) the thunder can get away without having a true point guard because they have a collective team that plays together well. in fact, durant is bringing the ball down the court and setting up plays as much as jackson or westbrook these days. it’s almost like there offense runs without a point guard, similar to the triangle offense. this particular team could use a true point, but doesn’t really need one.
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 7:27pm #876591

Mad MaxParticipantI’d like to see how Reggie Jackson does playing as the main man on a crappy team with no help. I know the guy can play, but it helps when teams are focused entirely on one guy.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 03/04/2014 - 7:27pm #876484

Mad MaxParticipantI’d like to see how Reggie Jackson does playing as the main man on a crappy team with no help. I know the guy can play, but it helps when teams are focused entirely on one guy.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/05/2014 - 5:54am #876639
juves4783Participantdefinitely agree with the coach switch.
not sure about the trade. i’d think the thunder would be more willing to just trade jackson for knight straight up or with some 2nd rounders. thinking the thunder have been counting the days the perkins contract is over and don’t want to add ilyasova’s contract since it runs to 2016. if the goal is to attain a stretch pf, adrien payne is in that range with either of the thunders’ late 1st rounders.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/05/2014 - 5:54am #876532
juves4783Participantdefinitely agree with the coach switch.
not sure about the trade. i’d think the thunder would be more willing to just trade jackson for knight straight up or with some 2nd rounders. thinking the thunder have been counting the days the perkins contract is over and don’t want to add ilyasova’s contract since it runs to 2016. if the goal is to attain a stretch pf, adrien payne is in that range with either of the thunders’ late 1st rounders.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/05/2014 - 6:05am #876641

Moon RiverParticipantYou had me on board until your Mayo comment. I don’t doubt his talent, but just think his personality is the type where he needs to be on a winning team. On a losing team, he will get disinterested very quickly and is no longer an asset to the team.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/05/2014 - 6:05am #876534

Moon RiverParticipantYou had me on board until your Mayo comment. I don’t doubt his talent, but just think his personality is the type where he needs to be on a winning team. On a losing team, he will get disinterested very quickly and is no longer an asset to the team.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:47am #876618

torontoraptors10Participant1 – Draft Embiid
2 – Go through with the Ilyasova trade with OKC
3 – Trade Sanders and Mayo for depth
4 – Build around Embiid0 - Posted on: Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:47am #876725

torontoraptors10Participant1 – Draft Embiid
2 – Go through with the Ilyasova trade with OKC
3 – Trade Sanders and Mayo for depth
4 – Build around Embiid0 - AuthorPosts
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