my first round mock with comparisons:

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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 9:41am #54817

kobyz
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http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_mock_drafts/comments/26297
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 9:48am #888387

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I really like it, I wouldn’t change a thing except for James young is a little high and Payne is about 10-15 spots too low.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 9:48am #888276

SpartanGlory
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I really like it, I wouldn’t change a thing except for James young is a little high and Payne is about 10-15 spots too low.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 1:58pm #888344
  
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  James young, maybe i’m too much into the hype of his tournament play, but he showed some promise of an high level player with big time plays that he made and overall impressive basketballl, on the other hand Payne i’m not a big believer in him, to me there somthing erratic in him, his game seems to lack toughness…
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 1:58pm #888455
  
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  James young, maybe i’m too much into the hype of his tournament play, but he showed some promise of an high level player with big time plays that he made and overall impressive basketballl, on the other hand Payne i’m not a big believer in him, to me there somthing erratic in him, his game seems to lack toughness…
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:04am #888403

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I am laughing at teams trying to keep up with a three guard rotation of Goran Dragic, Eric Bledsoe, and Shabazz Napier.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:04am #888292

Memphis Madness
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I am laughing at teams trying to keep up with a three guard rotation of Goran Dragic, Eric Bledsoe, and Shabazz Napier.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:08am #888407
  
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  not to mention they drafted Archie Goodwin last year and still have Gerald Green.
  i think its safe to say they arent going to be targeting a guard in this years draft.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:08am #888296
  
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  not to mention they drafted Archie Goodwin last year and still have Gerald Green.
  i think its safe to say they arent going to be targeting a guard in this years draft.
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  - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 12:12pm #888322
    
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    eric bledsoe is going to be a free agent. not sure why he is such a lock to return, especially since dragic is a pg.
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    - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 12:22pm #888324
      
      Wetalkinboutpractice
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      Because he’s a "restricted" free agent. Phoenix will be able to match any offer sheet Bledsoe signs, and they almost certainly will do so even if another team over estimates and throws a max deal at him they won’t let him walk.
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      - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 5:18pm #888392
        
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        Did the ownership change? Im not that up to date but I recall sarver hating to pay his players top money unless they’re big big names in the league.
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      - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 5:18pm #888502
        
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        Did the ownership change? Im not that up to date but I recall sarver hating to pay his players top money unless they’re big big names in the league.
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    - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 12:22pm #888435
      
      Wetalkinboutpractice
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      Because he’s a "restricted" free agent. Phoenix will be able to match any offer sheet Bledsoe signs, and they almost certainly will do so even if another team over estimates and throws a max deal at him they won’t let him walk.
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  - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 12:12pm #888433
    
    juves4783
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    eric bledsoe is going to be a free agent. not sure why he is such a lock to return, especially since dragic is a pg.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:02pm #888346
  
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  maybe you right but Eric Bledsoe will be FA and also he is injured prone, nice to have Shabazz as insure, and at least he is BPA at that spot…
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:02pm #888457
  
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  maybe you right but Eric Bledsoe will be FA and also he is injured prone, nice to have Shabazz as insure, and at least he is BPA at that spot…
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:06am #888405

imAboutDatAction
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love the Smart comparison.
while i agree with your Kyle Anderson comparison, i question if thats enough to be a #8 pick. will a GM waste a top 10 pick on a less athletic Livingston with some hedo sprinkled in?? i doubt it.
Early, Daniels, Napier is too high. Lavine too low. i actually pictured him falling in the Heat’s lap…LAWWWWD lol.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:06am #888294

imAboutDatAction
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love the Smart comparison.
while i agree with your Kyle Anderson comparison, i question if thats enough to be a #8 pick. will a GM waste a top 10 pick on a less athletic Livingston with some hedo sprinkled in?? i doubt it.
Early, Daniels, Napier is too high. Lavine too low. i actually pictured him falling in the Heat’s lap…LAWWWWD lol.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:05pm #888348
  
  kobyz
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  Hedo alone was in his prime second best player on finals team, add to this a true PG skills and feel, and it’s fantastic player…
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:05pm #888459
  
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  Hedo alone was in his prime second best player on finals team, add to this a true PG skills and feel, and it’s fantastic player…
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:23am #888413

Lindsey
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Only issue I have is with your Lavine comparison. I’d put him up higher, late lotto to late teens and pitch him against a better ball handler than Gerald Green.

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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:23am #888302

Lindsey
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Only issue I have is with your Lavine comparison. I’d put him up higher, late lotto to late teens and pitch him against a better ball handler than Gerald Green.

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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:06pm #888352
  
  kobyz
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  i guss you right, it wa a little lazy comparison, i changed it…
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:06pm #888463
  
  kobyz
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  i guss you right, it wa a little lazy comparison, i changed it…
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:25am #888429

Lotto Stud
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Love the Hairston/Q-Rich comparison
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:25am #888318

Lotto Stud
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Love the Hairston/Q-Rich comparison
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:07pm #888354
  
  kobyz
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  they are mirros image as players!
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:07pm #888465
  
  kobyz
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  they are mirros image as players!
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 1:11pm #888328

JoeWolf1
Payne won’t drop to 30, he’d be a top 10 lock if he were 2 years younger. I think his range is 12-20
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 1:15pm #888330
  
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  if he was 2 years younger, his game wouldnt be as developed.
  but yes, he’s going in the late teens.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 1:15pm #888441
  
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  if he was 2 years younger, his game wouldnt be as developed.
  but yes, he’s going in the late teens.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:12pm #888356
  
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  not big beliver in him, i think he is not though enough, he could go through the motions when things get a little challenging…
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:12pm #888467
  
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  not big beliver in him, i think he is not though enough, he could go through the motions when things get a little challenging…
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 1:11pm #888439

JoeWolf1
Payne won’t drop to 30, he’d be a top 10 lock if he were 2 years younger. I think his range is 12-20
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 1:27pm #888332

LA12
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I know Lavine gets overrated for his potential sometimes, but I don’t see him falling past the teens or even the late lottery.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:23pm #888360
  
  kobyz
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  it’s hard for me to give credit to players selecting in the draft based on unrealized potential, i didn’t sew in his game grip of winning basketball or knowing how to be effective… it’s hard to estimate if the untapped potential will be realized…
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  - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:57pm #888366
    
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    Even if it isn’t fully realized he’d still probably be a better pro than some of the people put ahead of him. Just because his full potential won’t be met doesn’t mean he can’t still be a good pro.
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    - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:29pm #888462
      
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      That’s the problem for me, I just can’t put a player who still isn’t close to playing the right way or effective way too high on the board… It’s very risky pick imo…
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    - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:29pm #888573
      
      kobyz
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      That’s the problem for me, I just can’t put a player who still isn’t close to playing the right way or effective way too high on the board… It’s very risky pick imo…
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  - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:57pm #888477
    
    LA12
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    Even if it isn’t fully realized he’d still probably be a better pro than some of the people put ahead of him. Just because his full potential won’t be met doesn’t mean he can’t still be a good pro.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:23pm #888471
  
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  it’s hard for me to give credit to players selecting in the draft based on unrealized potential, i didn’t sew in his game grip of winning basketball or knowing how to be effective… it’s hard to estimate if the untapped potential will be realized…
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 1:27pm #888443

LA12
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I know Lavine gets overrated for his potential sometimes, but I don’t see him falling past the teens or even the late lottery.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:27pm #888362

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I think the Michael Redd comparison is a bit lofty for Stauskas. I dont think he will sniff 20ppg in the league let alone the 24/25ppg Redd used to put up. Jodie Meeks is more accurate.
The Dale Ellis comp for McDermott was pretty good. Dale had a couple of monster years in Seattle scoring 27ppg, but the majority of the time he was a solid 15ppg as a designated sniper.
Id put LaVine way higher, but Derek Anderson is a good comp, but Id say he could be a better version of the best Derek Anderson.
Payne is too low as usual.
I dont see the Harrell/Brandan Wright comp. Wright was a prodigious talent coming out of UNC.
Overall a good read. Good work.

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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:56pm #888364
  
  Lotto Stud
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  I compare Aaron Harrison to Derek Anderson.
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:56pm #888475
  
  Lotto Stud
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  I compare Aaron Harrison to Derek Anderson.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 2:27pm #888473

Ihateusernames
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I think the Michael Redd comparison is a bit lofty for Stauskas. I dont think he will sniff 20ppg in the league let alone the 24/25ppg Redd used to put up. Jodie Meeks is more accurate.
The Dale Ellis comp for McDermott was pretty good. Dale had a couple of monster years in Seattle scoring 27ppg, but the majority of the time he was a solid 15ppg as a designated sniper.
Id put LaVine way higher, but Derek Anderson is a good comp, but Id say he could be a better version of the best Derek Anderson.
Payne is too low as usual.
I dont see the Harrell/Brandan Wright comp. Wright was a prodigious talent coming out of UNC.
Overall a good read. Good work.

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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 4:27pm #888378

JordanC20
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You are nearly spot on with your comparisons well done
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 4:27pm #888488

JordanC20
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You are nearly spot on with your comparisons well done
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 5:47pm #888396

Mikez
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The cavs will have the deepest PF depth in NBA history
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 5:47pm #888507

Mikez
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The cavs will have the deepest PF depth in NBA history
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 7:34pm #888410

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Overall it looks pretty solid. I might not agre with some comparisons but mentioning them would sound like nitpicking. I really like some of the comparisons you’re using like Exum being a taller John Wall (I think I may have been the first one to do so). Kyle Anderson being a less athletic Shaun Livingston meets Hedo haha… fantastic!

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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:34pm #888442
  
  he_gets_buckets
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  I see the John Wall – Exum comp thrown around all the time and it annoys me. People who use this comp are more then often just going off a handful of articles they’ve read and a mixtape, and going "Hey this Exum kid is pretty fast, similar body type to Wall, heck they must play the same too!". Apart from their broken jumpers, they play differently in most fascets of the game. Exum drives with intent to score, and does not have the innate passing ability John had at college or that he has now. Exum is a better shooter then John was at this point as well. They similar speed and body types, and both are less then respectable shooters, but one is a shooting guard one is a point.
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  - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:21pm #888454
    
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    agree with this.
    Exum doesnt have Wall’s speed tho. Wall is on a next level wit that. some people dont realize how great of a passer Wall is. he has great vision.
    Exum may have some similarities wit the athletcism, but he’s not the true Point Wall is and we dont know if Exum can defend. we know Wall can.
    
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  - Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:21pm #888564
    
    imAboutDatAction
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    agree with this.
    Exum doesnt have Wall’s speed tho. Wall is on a next level wit that. some people dont realize how great of a passer Wall is. he has great vision.
    Exum may have some similarities wit the athletcism, but he’s not the true Point Wall is and we dont know if Exum can defend. we know Wall can.
    
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:34pm #888552
  
  he_gets_buckets
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  I see the John Wall – Exum comp thrown around all the time and it annoys me. People who use this comp are more then often just going off a handful of articles they’ve read and a mixtape, and going "Hey this Exum kid is pretty fast, similar body type to Wall, heck they must play the same too!". Apart from their broken jumpers, they play differently in most fascets of the game. Exum drives with intent to score, and does not have the innate passing ability John had at college or that he has now. Exum is a better shooter then John was at this point as well. They similar speed and body types, and both are less then respectable shooters, but one is a shooting guard one is a point.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2014 - 7:34pm #888520

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Overall it looks pretty solid. I might not agre with some comparisons but mentioning them would sound like nitpicking. I really like some of the comparisons you’re using like Exum being a taller John Wall (I think I may have been the first one to do so). Kyle Anderson being a less athletic Shaun Livingston meets Hedo haha… fantastic!

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