[piratejpParticipant]

So everyone seems to agree (myself included) that Boston has little use for the #3 pick and NY needs to move Melo because his window doesn’t line up with that of Porzingis’.

NY could very much use that #3 pick, so there’s value there to them. Here’s are the two options I’m thinking might work (Boston would prefer option A & NY option B most likely):

A. Knicks send Melo to Boston for Amir Johnson, Jerebko and James Young (works in trade machine: espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine), and the 3rd, 16th, 23rd, 45th, 51st and 58th picks in this year’s draft, plus the Celtic’s 2018 (unprotected) 1st round pick, the 76ers 2017 2nd round pick, and the Net’s 2018 2nd round pick.

B. Knicks send Melo to Boston for same players and the 3rd & 23rd in this year’s draft and the Net’s unprotected 2018 1st rounder.

I’ll post my thoughts on each team’s rationale in separate posts so this isn’t stupid-long & tough to read, but I will quickly address Melo’s no-trade clause. The only teams I see him going to where he could move the needle enough to push them into legit championship contention are the Clippers, Atlanta, Toronto, Portland and Boston. He’s not going to Portland (aka Denver West…and wet…and not really his scene). Atlanta & LA.C don’t really have the pieces to pry him away. Toronto probably checks both those boxes. But Boston….Boston…
Probably not his first choice, or even his third, but I could see him coming around to the idea of Boston; especially if it’s trade A that gets him there and he knows they’ve still got both those Net picks/lottery-tickets coming in to add even more firepower in upcoming seasons.

[Lebron’s HairlineParticipant]

 I know Boston is desperate for a superstar player but that price is extremely DEEP for Melo. That’s a kings ransom

[Lebron’s HairlineParticipant]

 I know Boston is desperate for a superstar player but that price is extremely DEEP for Melo. That’s a kings ransom

[piratejpParticipant]

Even better if they don’t have to give so much. They’ve got more draft capital than they need though, so if they can use any combo of it to get Melo, I think they should. 

[piratejpParticipant]

Even better if they don’t have to give so much. They’ve got more draft capital than they need though, so if they can use any combo of it to get Melo, I think they should. 

[piratejpParticipant]

No brainer either way. They need a star, and Melo is that, plus he fits their roster well. Boston has no use for all those picks; they don’t have roster space even if they use 2/3rds of them on draft&stash guys. They do want to add high-quality players if possible though, so clearly trade A is their preference…but I think they do B if they need to do it to get the deal done. 

[piratejpParticipant]

No brainer either way. They need a star, and Melo is that, plus he fits their roster well. Boston has no use for all those picks; they don’t have roster space even if they use 2/3rds of them on draft&stash guys. They do want to add high-quality players if possible though, so clearly trade A is their preference…but I think they do B if they need to do it to get the deal done. 

[piratejpParticipant]

Boston would still have the 2 early 2nd rounders this year too, so the roster spots vacated in the deal can be easily filled. It’s a good spot to grab a foreign player who’ll be easier to deal with contractually because he fell outside the 1st round; plus this is supposedly a flat draft, so the 35th and 23rd picks aren’t as dis-similar in value as they might normally be. I think Ainge would be happy to unload this year’s draft minus those two picks frankly if it netted him Melo (or any player at his level who was a good fit team-wise).

[piratejpParticipant]

Boston would still have the 2 early 2nd rounders this year too, so the roster spots vacated in the deal can be easily filled. It’s a good spot to grab a foreign player who’ll be easier to deal with contractually because he fell outside the 1st round; plus this is supposedly a flat draft, so the 35th and 23rd picks aren’t as dis-similar in value as they might normally be. I think Ainge would be happy to unload this year’s draft minus those two picks frankly if it netted him Melo (or any player at his level who was a good fit team-wise).

[piratejpParticipant]

I think they’d need to be convinced pretty strongly to move Melo – or even try to sell him on waiving his no-trade for that matter. Either trade hits that mark. Trade B is sexier, but with Porzingis already in the fold, adding so much talent immediately over the next few years is exactly what this team needs. 4 first rounders and 5 second rounders is a huge haul, but that’s what it takes to get a star. None are likely to be any higher than this year’s third pick, and the unprotected 2018 pick is Boston betting on themselves (and knowing they still have the Net pick) and NY betting on disaster and then unbelievable fortune.

If it’s too much, add some protection to that pick or trim a few picks off the deal. However it’s structured, a deal between these two seems a good fit to me. 

[piratejpParticipant]

I think they’d need to be convinced pretty strongly to move Melo – or even try to sell him on waiving his no-trade for that matter. Either trade hits that mark. Trade B is sexier, but with Porzingis already in the fold, adding so much talent immediately over the next few years is exactly what this team needs. 4 first rounders and 5 second rounders is a huge haul, but that’s what it takes to get a star. None are likely to be any higher than this year’s third pick, and the unprotected 2018 pick is Boston betting on themselves (and knowing they still have the Net pick) and NY betting on disaster and then unbelievable fortune.

If it’s too much, add some protection to that pick or trim a few picks off the deal. However it’s structured, a deal between these two seems a good fit to me. 

[kindofblueParticipant]

Melo is not waiving his no-trade clause to go to Boston. He loves NYC too much. You have to remember it’s not just Melo he has a family. They love living in NYC. Boston is a very good team, but there is no guarantee if he joined them they would suddenly be a campionship team.  At this point Melo is commited to the future of the Knicks. 

If he were to leave the Knicks there are only three teams he would probably consider: Clippers (Chris Paul), Cleveland (Lebron), and Miami (Wade). 

The knicks need a few more pieces and they can be competitive. They have all they’re first round picks going forward. They have bunch of cap space for free agents. It may take one more year and the Knicks could headed for deep playoff run.

 

[kindofblueParticipant]

Melo is not waiving his no-trade clause to go to Boston. He loves NYC too much. You have to remember it’s not just Melo he has a family. They love living in NYC. Boston is a very good team, but there is no guarantee if he joined them they would suddenly be a campionship team.  At this point Melo is commited to the future of the Knicks. 

If he were to leave the Knicks there are only three teams he would probably consider: Clippers (Chris Paul), Cleveland (Lebron), and Miami (Wade). 

The knicks need a few more pieces and they can be competitive. They have all they’re first round picks going forward. They have bunch of cap space for free agents. It may take one more year and the Knicks could headed for deep playoff run.

 

[capecodderParticipant]

 Are you kidding?

All that for an aging star?….Knicks gave up a king’s ransom for Anthony originally….how did that work?

 

 

 

 

 

[capecodderParticipant]

 Are you kidding?

All that for an aging star?….Knicks gave up a king’s ransom for Anthony originally….how did that work?

 

 

 

 

 

[SamO97Participant]

 Way too many draft picks given up for a 32 year old Carmelo. No way Boston even considers such a trade.

[SamO97Participant]

 Way too many draft picks given up for a 32 year old Carmelo. No way Boston even considers such a trade.

[natevalParticipant]

 Melo

2016-2017 $24.5 mil per

2017-2018 $26.2 mil per

Early termination option 2018-2019 $27.9 mil per 

Celtics don’t even answer the phone. Anthony isn’t a championship player he will never win a title in his career

 

 

 

 

 

[natevalParticipant]

 Melo

2016-2017 $24.5 mil per

2017-2018 $26.2 mil per

Early termination option 2018-2019 $27.9 mil per 

Celtics don’t even answer the phone. Anthony isn’t a championship player he will never win a title in his career

 

 

 

 

 

[OaktownWarriorsParticipant]

Sounds like you follow the Celtics, so why would you want Cancer Melo on the Celtics roster? Please review Melo’s NBA career and then re-think your post! I wouldn’t want Melo on my D-league team!!!

[OaktownWarriorsParticipant]

Sounds like you follow the Celtics, so why would you want Cancer Melo on the Celtics roster? Please review Melo’s NBA career and then re-think your post! I wouldn’t want Melo on my D-league team!!!

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Why would Boston be in such a hurry to trade all their assets for a star player? Can’t they swap picks with Brooklyn next year? That could be another top-five pick. Then they own the Nets pick in 2019…there again, that could be a top pick as well. 

Why not keep adding high-end players over the course of three years and extend this winning window theyve got? It’s not like they’ve got old guys who are going anywhere and its not like they are wasting the prime of a lot of their players? They are good right now and if they do this right, they could be great for a number of years. But don’t be impatient and cut corners. 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Why would Boston be in such a hurry to trade all their assets for a star player? Can’t they swap picks with Brooklyn next year? That could be another top-five pick. Then they own the Nets pick in 2019…there again, that could be a top pick as well. 

Why not keep adding high-end players over the course of three years and extend this winning window theyve got? It’s not like they’ve got old guys who are going anywhere and its not like they are wasting the prime of a lot of their players? They are good right now and if they do this right, they could be great for a number of years. But don’t be impatient and cut corners. 

 

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