[cabbycabParticipant]

Ok, I can’t get over this guy’s rookie season.  I didn’t see it coming.  17/6/6.  Those are impressive numbers.  What is this guy’s ceiling?  Penny 2.0 ?  Or just another good player on a really bad team.

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

unless he can fix his jumper, i actually see him regressing alittle.

he shot horribly from everywhere on the court this year. his team was blown out by halftime in some games,which helped padd his stats. he gambles ALOT on defense. 6ers also played the fastest pace offense in the whole league, which is another factor that helped bloat his stat sheet.

he;s not as good as his stat sheet indicates. 

this sounds awfully similar to Tyreke Evans rookie year. 

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

unless he can fix his jumper, i actually see him regressing alittle.

he shot horribly from everywhere on the court this year. his team was blown out by halftime in some games,which helped padd his stats. he gambles ALOT on defense. 6ers also played the fastest pace offense in the whole league, which is another factor that helped bloat his stat sheet.

he;s not as good as his stat sheet indicates. 

this sounds awfully similar to Tyreke Evans rookie year. 

[vulture711Participant]

 If you want to judge his jumper fine – but if his team could shoot those stats would be 17/10/7

He no doubt led the league in dishes to guys who missed and how the hell that bean pole leads his team in rebounds most every night is beyond me.  Sure his scoring may drop some with a better cast, but Mike is pretty solid

 

[Jester87Participant]

"He no doubt led the league in dishes to guys who missed"

False, the Nba tracks those things and he’s not even close. He creates 12.4 assist opportunities per games (it means passes that lead to a shot that if made would give him an assist) per sportVU datas available on Nba.com. He averages 6.1 assists per game. So 6.3 potential assist are not converted. 

How do other guys perform? Rajon Rondo, 19.9 assist opportunities per game, 9.8 APG (10.1 potential assists ending up in missed shots). Chris Paul, 19.8 assist opportunities per game, 10.7 APG (9.1 potential assists missing). Ty Lawson, 18.8 assist opportunities, 8.8 APG (10). John Wall 17.2 assist opportunities vs 8.9 assists. Rubio 17.1 vs 8.6. Just to name a few, but there are at least 10 other players who would rank ahead of MCW

[Jester87Participant]

"He no doubt led the league in dishes to guys who missed"

False, the Nba tracks those things and he’s not even close. He creates 12.4 assist opportunities per games (it means passes that lead to a shot that if made would give him an assist) per sportVU datas available on Nba.com. He averages 6.1 assists per game. So 6.3 potential assist are not converted. 

How do other guys perform? Rajon Rondo, 19.9 assist opportunities per game, 9.8 APG (10.1 potential assists ending up in missed shots). Chris Paul, 19.8 assist opportunities per game, 10.7 APG (9.1 potential assists missing). Ty Lawson, 18.8 assist opportunities, 8.8 APG (10). John Wall 17.2 assist opportunities vs 8.9 assists. Rubio 17.1 vs 8.6. Just to name a few, but there are at least 10 other players who would rank ahead of MCW

[vulture711Participant]

 If you want to judge his jumper fine – but if his team could shoot those stats would be 17/10/7

He no doubt led the league in dishes to guys who missed and how the hell that bean pole leads his team in rebounds most every night is beyond me.  Sure his scoring may drop some with a better cast, but Mike is pretty solid

 

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

The only other rookie to hold the same averages as him is Magic Johnson, and the only rookie guards who could be considered better rebounders are Magic and the big O. What else needs to be said? His ceiling is huge.

[Jester87Participant]

Oscar Robertson too. By the way, Tyreke Evans averaged 20+5+5 in his first seasons and only other 3 players accomplished that in their rookie season: MJ, LeBron and again Oscar Robertson.

[Jester87Participant]

Oscar Robertson too. By the way, Tyreke Evans averaged 20+5+5 in his first seasons and only other 3 players accomplished that in their rookie season: MJ, LeBron and again Oscar Robertson.

[SpartanGloryParticipant]

The only other rookie to hold the same averages as him is Magic Johnson, and the only rookie guards who could be considered better rebounders are Magic and the big O. What else needs to be said? His ceiling is huge.

[PhillytheKid]

I dunno, my eye tells me when I see a certain player that they belong in the NBA.

MCW gets into the paint with ease and is tall enough to sink his shot.  He can finish in the paint and will only get stronger.

I know I’ll get crap for saying this but he shot 40% from the field in 12/13 at Syracuse, 43% from 2pt and 30% from 3pt.  In his Freshman season at Syracuse he shot 43% overall, 45% from 2pt, and 40% from the 3pt.

For the Sixers he shot:  40% from the field, 44% overall, and 26% from the 3pt.

 

You need to surround him with shooters but he should very easily be able to drive into the paint.  His height (a la Lebron) should allow him to see the court and find the open shooter.  

I don’t think he’ll regress.  I honestly didn’t see too many Sixers games towards the end of the year, but early in the year he was hitting 3s and his stroke looked good.  I think he had to take too many shots with the clock winding down because nobody on his team could get a shot off.  I think he’ll get stronger and his shot will improve under Brett Brown since the fundamentals are there.  

You can win with him.  I actually like him better than Jrue, because he can get into the paint much easier than Jrue.

The Sixers are better off with MCW + Noel + 10th Pick than with Jrue and Giannis?  

 

 

[PhillytheKid]

I dunno, my eye tells me when I see a certain player that they belong in the NBA.

MCW gets into the paint with ease and is tall enough to sink his shot.  He can finish in the paint and will only get stronger.

I know I’ll get crap for saying this but he shot 40% from the field in 12/13 at Syracuse, 43% from 2pt and 30% from 3pt.  In his Freshman season at Syracuse he shot 43% overall, 45% from 2pt, and 40% from the 3pt.

For the Sixers he shot:  40% from the field, 44% overall, and 26% from the 3pt.

 

You need to surround him with shooters but he should very easily be able to drive into the paint.  His height (a la Lebron) should allow him to see the court and find the open shooter.  

I don’t think he’ll regress.  I honestly didn’t see too many Sixers games towards the end of the year, but early in the year he was hitting 3s and his stroke looked good.  I think he had to take too many shots with the clock winding down because nobody on his team could get a shot off.  I think he’ll get stronger and his shot will improve under Brett Brown since the fundamentals are there.  

You can win with him.  I actually like him better than Jrue, because he can get into the paint much easier than Jrue.

The Sixers are better off with MCW + Noel + 10th Pick than with Jrue and Giannis?  

 

 

[CrossyboyParticipant]

Steve Francis – 5.3rpg 6.6apg 18ppg
Tyreke Evans – 5.3rpg 5.8apg 20.1ppg
Jason Kidd – 5.4rpg 7.7apg 11.7ppg
Penny Hardaway – 5.4rpg 6.6apg 16.0ppg
Grant Hill – 6.4rpg 5.0apg 19.9ppg
Dwyane Wade – 4.0rpg 4.5apg 16.2ppg
LeBron James 5.5rpg 5.9apg 20.9ppg

Looking at the above, it seems like MCW has a bright future. However, I think a lot will depend upon his ability to improve his jumper and cut down on the turnovers. At the moment, Evans looks like the most likely comparison, but Francis (pre-New York) may be closer stat-wise if he wises up.

[220Participant]

Turnover are definitely the biggest weakness I see in MCW right now. Some of his turnovers are atrocious, but Brett Brown did state that you could blame a lot of the turnovers on what he’s asking MCW to do. The 76ers wanted to run and push the ball every chance they had.

I understand the comparison made to Brandon Jennings, but I think its important to remember that Jennings went on a hot streak and then teams adjusted to him later in the season and contained him. MCW played at a high level basically all year and never got to the point where teams adjusted and totally contained him like Jennings.

Tyreke Evans was one of the stranger examples I can think of for regression after his rookie season. Evans was so dominate as a rookie and he really never regained that on a consistent basis since. He did have some injuries, but nothing to explain away his regression.

I expect to see MCW continue to improve barring injuries. He should certainly become a better decision maker which therefore should lead to less turnovers. 

[220Participant]

Turnover are definitely the biggest weakness I see in MCW right now. Some of his turnovers are atrocious, but Brett Brown did state that you could blame a lot of the turnovers on what he’s asking MCW to do. The 76ers wanted to run and push the ball every chance they had.

I understand the comparison made to Brandon Jennings, but I think its important to remember that Jennings went on a hot streak and then teams adjusted to him later in the season and contained him. MCW played at a high level basically all year and never got to the point where teams adjusted and totally contained him like Jennings.

Tyreke Evans was one of the stranger examples I can think of for regression after his rookie season. Evans was so dominate as a rookie and he really never regained that on a consistent basis since. He did have some injuries, but nothing to explain away his regression.

I expect to see MCW continue to improve barring injuries. He should certainly become a better decision maker which therefore should lead to less turnovers. 

[CrossyboyParticipant]

Steve Francis – 5.3rpg 6.6apg 18ppg
Tyreke Evans – 5.3rpg 5.8apg 20.1ppg
Jason Kidd – 5.4rpg 7.7apg 11.7ppg
Penny Hardaway – 5.4rpg 6.6apg 16.0ppg
Grant Hill – 6.4rpg 5.0apg 19.9ppg
Dwyane Wade – 4.0rpg 4.5apg 16.2ppg
LeBron James 5.5rpg 5.9apg 20.9ppg

Looking at the above, it seems like MCW has a bright future. However, I think a lot will depend upon his ability to improve his jumper and cut down on the turnovers. At the moment, Evans looks like the most likely comparison, but Francis (pre-New York) may be closer stat-wise if he wises up.

[HitsterParticipant]

 Guys like Tyreke Evans, Brandon Jennings and O.J Mayo all had great rookie years but in the case of Evans and Mayo they regressed in the proceeding years. MCW is hard to judge as he could be at this level or hopefully better, if he does turn out to be a legit star then he was a hidden gem in last year’s draft as he went only 11th.

Realistically I want to see how he develops all round as a player, if the 76ers get a proven scorer in this year’s draft MCW’s scoring may regress but his apg will rise. I’d say with any luck he becomes a legit long term NBA scoring PG who challenges for All Star appearances in due course with an upside of being a regular All Star.

Statistically he did in his 1st year what Evan Turner was doing on the same team in his 4th year if you want a decent formline.

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Guys like Tyreke Evans, Brandon Jennings and O.J Mayo all had great rookie years but in the case of Evans and Mayo they regressed in the proceeding years. MCW is hard to judge as he could be at this level or hopefully better, if he does turn out to be a legit star then he was a hidden gem in last year’s draft as he went only 11th.

Realistically I want to see how he develops all round as a player, if the 76ers get a proven scorer in this year’s draft MCW’s scoring may regress but his apg will rise. I’d say with any luck he becomes a legit long term NBA scoring PG who challenges for All Star appearances in due course with an upside of being a regular All Star.

Statistically he did in his 1st year what Evan Turner was doing on the same team in his 4th year if you want a decent formline.

 

 

[Rip255]

I think MCW will be a top 10 Point Guard in the NBA for the next 10 years and will play between 3 to 5 all-star games. He’s not the best scorer, nor the best facilitator, but just a very good contributor in all areas. I think he’ll be an elite role-player, as opposed to the main man. 

His stats this year are hard to judge because his team was so terrible and he was forced to do a lot. But I think he’ll have career averages of 15pts, 5.5 rebs,  7 assists, 2 steals, 42% fg and good locker-room energy. I also think he’ll be part of some very good teams over his career. 

[Rip255]

I think MCW will be a top 10 Point Guard in the NBA for the next 10 years and will play between 3 to 5 all-star games. He’s not the best scorer, nor the best facilitator, but just a very good contributor in all areas. I think he’ll be an elite role-player, as opposed to the main man. 

His stats this year are hard to judge because his team was so terrible and he was forced to do a lot. But I think he’ll have career averages of 15pts, 5.5 rebs,  7 assists, 2 steals, 42% fg and good locker-room energy. I also think he’ll be part of some very good teams over his career. 

[ashock34Participant]

 Nothin wrong with the kids shot. Form is good. More experience and work on his mid range game will do the trick and oh ya, two or three all americans suiting up next to him next year will keep teams honest.

[ashock34Participant]

 Nothin wrong with the kids shot. Form is good. More experience and work on his mid range game will do the trick and oh ya, two or three all americans suiting up next to him next year will keep teams honest.

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